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post #961 of 1105
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Originally Posted by Doc Vino View Post

Could anyone tell me if I am in need of a speaker upgrade?

Really think the Sub and center are fine but what 2 pair of Bookshelves could match up well and take me to a new level?
 

I would probably let them ride if not rattling, foam surrounds not torn, a single driver not blown, etc. (that's what usually pushes me to buy a new set).

 

I would say Polk or Infinity. Love my Monitor 40 Series II (and you have a sub) .

 

I just moved my miss-matched set into the other room and bought a whole set of Polk separates (never done that before). Most of my old was JBL.

 

The Polk set is very "clear". The 505 is way low but not boomy.

post #962 of 1105
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Originally Posted by Doc Vino View Post

p.s. When you get your system "dialed in" which Disc do you reach for to test and how/why and what part do you go to?

My old favorite was the cat scene in Gladiator wanted to hear the roar of my system!

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Yes, that's a good one.

 

It's hard to say these days. Mostly anything with a good 5.1 track (or 7.1 HD on Blu-Ray). My old DVD favorites sounds even better from Blu-Ray.

 

Apollo 13 (blast-off)

Armageddon

Days of Thunder (racing) ... Blu-Ray has proper 5.1-7.1

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Also, clean, live 5.1 recordings of classic rock bands (good test of Fronts and Center)

Fleetwood Mac (The Dance)

Eagles (there's a couple)

REO Speedwagon (Riverport)

Rush

post #963 of 1105
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Originally Posted by Doc Vino View Post

One more thing my Denon had a 5 channel stereo feature and the center always played the Oinky does not... is this a setting problem or a "feature"?

 

Check with both a:

CD - 2 channel PCM

DVD - Dolby Digital 5.1 or DTS

 

My Onkyo 607 has "All Channel Stereo" . I don't remember the Center not producing sound in that Listening Mode.

post #964 of 1105
I want to share my DirecTV HR20's HDMI output to two TVs.

The Onkyo NR616/NR717 has two HDMI outputs, but will it only output the exact same thing to both TVs? Wondering if my old Samsung LN52A65 that cannot do 3D would be limiting the receiver and newer TV that are connected to HDMI-out 2.



Would I be able to get around this by connecting the new 3D TV to HDMI-out 1, and connecting HDMI-out 2 to a second receiver that is outputting to the old Samsung?

Another thing is that I have seen receivers with dual HDMI outputs that limit the second one to 2-channel audio, and I need HDMI-out 2 to be full-featured. I hope someone that owns this receiver can let me know. Thanks guys!
post #965 of 1105
On the NR616 or NR717 is there any way to display video input from a video source (Satellite) while using audio input from an audio source (USB device)? For parties I like to have the game on while we play music in the background.

Thanks for any help!
post #966 of 1105
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Originally Posted by paradoxrw View Post

On the NR616 or NR717 is there any way to display video input from a video source (Satellite) while using audio input from an audio source (USB device)? For parties I like to have the game on while we play music in the background.

Thanks for any help!

Good one! My current Onkyo receive (dead now and shopping around for a 717) did not have HDMIs so I opted to run all HDMIS directly to the TV technically letting me run an audio connection directly from my iPod/Cable box/PC to the receiver so I could do just that. If I upgrade to the 717 and run all video through it I'd like to still be able to do view one thing and listed to another on the main zone.
post #967 of 1105
Regarding watching one while hearing another - All you have to do hit the next source So if I want Xbox with Cd sound I would just hit game and then CD (I guess the unit is smart enough that if you push two quickly it means you want the picture from the first and the audio from the second)

Can anyone else confirm this?

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post #968 of 1105
Just pulled the trigger on a new 717 on Amazon.com ($500 with free shipping).
post #969 of 1105
BTW, I printed the .pdf manual for the 717. Dam, it took over half of a new pack of paper and a lot of printer ink! I could always keep it on my tablet but I like have the paper option so I can make highlights and notes on it.
post #970 of 1105
Please Help - I am coming from a 5yr old htib pioneer system 5.1 , now i have a onkyo 616 , polk tl1900 5.1 speaker package that comes with a psw108 sub and i have two sony ss-f6000 as my front floorstanding speakers . I have the polk sat speakers as my two in the rear and sides and the sonys upfront. All i can say is there is not huge improvment over the pioneer htib. I did not run audyssey yet and i will soon , i just want it to sound good 1st without having to do that. The sound is low , i barely get any volume from the rears and side speakers , sub barely has any thump and i have the knob turned all the way clockwise , i also tried it at 120hz and its on auto , also set manualy on the receiver sub 120hz along with all the speakers i even tried the thx 80hz mode and nothing. Also noticed that when running a blu ray via ps3 and selecting 7.1 as the sound track from the bluray i am not getting true 7.1 , when i hit info on the onkyo it shows thats its a converted signal , shouldnt it be true 7.1 with no conversion as i set it that way in the bluray ? Also is there a way to bypass the reciever from trying to upconvert my image ? i dont think i need it as everything looks pretty good already. Please help as i dont want to have to return this . thank you
post #971 of 1105
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Originally Posted by justpassedu View Post

Please Help - I am coming from a 5yr old htib pioneer system 5.1 , now i have a onkyo 616 , polk tl1900 5.1 speaker package that comes with a psw108 sub and i have two sony ss-f6000 as my front floorstanding speakers . I have the polk sat speakers as my two in the rear and sides and the sonys upfront. All i can say is there is not huge improvment over the pioneer htib. I did not run audyssey yet and i will soon , i just want it to sound good 1st without having to do that. The sound is low , i barely get any volume from the rears and side speakers , sub barely has any thump and i have the knob turned all the way clockwise , i also tried it at 120hz and its on auto , also set manualy on the receiver sub 120hz along with all the speakers i even tried the thx 80hz mode and nothing. Also noticed that when running a blu ray via ps3 and selecting 7.1 as the sound track from the bluray i am not getting true 7.1 , when i hit info on the onkyo it shows thats its a converted signal , shouldnt it be true 7.1 with no conversion as i set it that way in the bluray ? Also is there a way to bypass the reciever from trying to upconvert my image ? i dont think i need it as everything looks pretty good already. Please help as i dont want to have to return this . thank you

1. Is that an allow-able config with the TL-1900. I thought that set was like a HTiB (a balanced set but don't ask for much). Can you really throw new Front L/F in there?

 

2. You are running all speaker wires back to 616, and the Sub is connected to LFE, right?

 

3. Run Audyssey. It Diagnoses system and sets levels to a good base-line program.

post #972 of 1105
The polk tl1900 are pretty much like a htib set of speakers but def a upgade from what i had and they do have some realy good reviews in the sound quality department , i really bought them bc i couldnt pass up the deal of $175 for the set with the psw108 subwoofer wich made the deal for me as this sub is perfect , i have haeard it before. But hey this stil should be a major improvment over a htib . All wires are run from the speakers to receiver using 14gauge and 16guage , i have the single wire going from the sub output on the receiver to either left or right on the sub , both work , only need to use one. While there is no lfe input on the sub it supposedly makes a lfe by turning the crossover all the way on the sub clockwise wich i have done. I will run audyssey soon , only reason i have not yet is bc i am stil waiting on my sony fronts to come in the mail and for now i am using two decent fronts that are kind of old until they come in the mail. Still though wouldnt you think these polk tl1900's and the psw108 sub should be a major upgrade in sound quality from the pioneer htib i had with smaller speakers and sub?

wasnt sure what you were saying by this - "Can you really throw new Front L/F in there?"
post #973 of 1105
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Originally Posted by justpassedu View Post

i have the single wire going from the sub output on the receiver to either left or right on the sub , both work , only need to use one.

My old Infinity Sub also only has line level inputs (2 RCAs). I always install a splitter (1to2 ... so both RCAs are connected).

 

Yes max out knob settings on Sub and let Audyssey trim it down. Exception is Volume I usually run at 50-75% but yours might be small. Pick a knob volume and leave it ... let Audyssey pick volume ... just don't let it "bottom-out" . Make sure Audyssey picks Sub Volume level between -12 to +12 or around there.

 

Run Audyssey now. You can run it again later. Even the Quick (1 position) Setup is better than nothing. It's very accurate and will alert you to any problems.

 

On my Onkyo 607, years ago ... my total sound didn't seem as clear or bright all of a sudden. After the usual trouble-shooting, I thought I would re-run Audyssey. Surprisingly, it said the Center failed (but obviously the speaker was working). Turns-out the Tweeter driver was blown in my (nice, but old) JBL Center. Installed another tweeter, ran Audyssey (it passed this time), and sound was back to normal.

post #974 of 1105
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Originally Posted by justpassedu View Post

wasnt sure what you were saying by this - "Can you really throw new Front L/F in there?"

I think speaker matching or balancing (using the small supplied speakers) is important for optimal results from this little speaker system. Hopefully, Audyssey can even it out.

post #975 of 1105
ok i will run the audyssey tonight when i get home , but i wil prob want to bump up speakers anyway after it is run as i did this with my pioneer and had to do the same. As for the sub right now i am only running a single conector , i can go buy a a splitter 2 to 1 but from reading so much on forums people say it realy makes no difference in sound with the sub and some say it gives a extra +6db and then a pro chimed in saying it is proven to do nothing so i didnt think that was a big deal as i am getting sound out of the sub .
post #976 of 1105
About the 717:

I have an Infinity Modulus II speaker set with the 12" power subwoofer. My old receiver was a 7.1, but I ordered a 717 which is a 7.2 and my subwoofer does have two inputs LEFT and RIGHT, should I use the two sub outs on the 717 with my two inputs on my sub?
post #977 of 1105
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Originally Posted by Miami Guy View Post

About the 717:

I have an Infinity Modulus II speaker set with the 12" power subwoofer. My old receiver was a 7.1, but I ordered a 717 which is a 7.2 and my subwoofer does have two inputs LEFT and RIGHT, should I use the two sub outs on the 717 with my two inputs on my sub?

No, only Sub #1 out to your Sub. Sub out #2 is for a second, separate sub.

 

Download PDF 717 Owners Manual to get ready.

post #978 of 1105
I not only downloaded the manual, I printed it! Man that was half of a new pack of paper, since it prints on one side. I'll have to look for that section regarding connecting the sub, dint know if there was a "trick" to get better bass.
post #979 of 1105
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Originally Posted by justpassedu View Post

1. but i wil prob want to bump up speakers anyway
2. so i didnt think that was a big deal as i am getting sound out of the sub .

 

1. I have been told that changing the volume levels of a speaker or two (after Audyssey) doesn't really change the calibration. I wouldn't change too much because I personally think it would become un-balanced, but if you need to bump the Center up a notch or two, no big deal.

 

2. I only mentioned it because you said it wasn't loud enough (thought maybe you had a core wiring problem). IIUC, you are using the same speaker set as with old HTiB. Depending on the source material, I wouldn't be expecting a huge change anyway.

post #980 of 1105
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Originally Posted by Tesla1856 View Post

No, only Sub #1 out to your Sub. Sub out #2 is for a second, separate sub.

Download PDF 717 Owners Manual to get ready.

Tes, if not mistaken the 717 manual states its posible to connect both sub outs to the one sub in (not sure of the benefit if any) on page En-14.

post #981 of 1105
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Originally Posted by Miami Guy View Post


Tes, if not mistaken the 717 manual states its posible to connect both sub outs to the one sub in (not sure of the benefit if any) on page En-14.

Do like the first/top pic shows ... one Sub per Amp port. For LFE on Sub, there is only one RCA anyway. If line Level on Sub (2 RCAs) use short 1to2 splitter at Sub end. If wire run is long (like to back of room) you can use RG-6 coax cable (in-wall) and plug-form-factor adapters.

 

If you really have 2 separate Subs, Audyssey might even see them as 2 separate subs, but I've never actually tried it. Not sure about lower wording ... I think something got lost in Japanese translation.  smile.gif

 

Maybe it's wrong, but that's how I have been doing it over the years ... 5 amps and 4 subs experiences later.

post #982 of 1105
For now I'll defenetly connect one out from the 717 to one in on t he sub. But my Infinity sub has a L & R sub connection, thats why I ask.

See the L/R connection:

post #983 of 1105
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Originally Posted by Miami Guy View Post

For now I'll defenetly connect one out from the 717 to one in on t he sub. But my Infinity sub has a L & R sub connection, thats why I ask.

See the L/R connection:

 

Yes, my old Sub is also Infinity (with Line Level In). As I said in my previous post, I use something like this at Sub:

 

http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10236&cs_id=1023603&p_id=6261&seq=1&format=2

post #984 of 1105
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Originally Posted by Tesla1856 View Post

Yes, my old Sub is also Infinity (with Line Level In). As I said in my previous post, I use something like this at Sub:

http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10236&cs_id=1023603&p_id=6261&seq=1&format=2

Interesting, so the double connection would go where, On the 717 or the sub? What would this improve?
post #985 of 1105
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Originally Posted by Miami Guy View Post


Interesting, so the double connection would go where, On the 717 or the sub? What would this improve?

It goes at the Sub side ...

 

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1045531/how-to-connect-a-subwoofer-to-a-receiver-101

 

It's just the way I've always done it. For a "Line-Level-In" Sub-Woofer (like my older Infinity), there are 2 RCA jacks, so I like to have them both used/plugged-in.

 

My new Polk Sub has (additionally) a LFE Input, so I use it instead. LFE only requires one RCA jack ... so no splitter required.

 

How exciting ... I wish I was getting a new Onkyo 717 AVR this week. Well, maybe my 607 will last forever (which would be better for my wallet).  smile.gif

post #986 of 1105
Can anyone tell me if the two HDMI outputs are independent or if it is just one output that is DA'ed? I want to be able to watch two different things at once through the receiver if possible.
post #987 of 1105
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Originally Posted by holmern View Post

Can anyone tell me if the two HDMI outputs are independent or if it is just one output that is DA'ed? I want to be able to watch two different things at once through the receiver if possible.

You'll need to step up to the 1010 to get zone specific output.
post #988 of 1105
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Originally Posted by babgvant View Post

You'll need to step up to the 1010 to get zone specific output.

Thanks for the quick reply. That receiver is unfortunately a whole different ballpark when it comes to price.
post #989 of 1105
Just received my 717 yesterday. I need to buy a new HDMI cable, but for now I'm trying to do a quick connect just to get a taste but I'm getting en ERROR code from the CENTER speaker while trying to use the 2EQ. I changed the negative/positives and no change. Any ideas what the ERROR code could be on that one speaker? If I cant corrected it, will I be able to use the 2EQ setting?

Update: I plugged the center speaker to another speaker outlet (surround) and the ERROR also came up there so the problem is not the 717 but the speaker. Then I also changed the cable on the center speaker and still the ERROR comes up.

I do hear that the "chirping" of the 2EQ is higher pitched on all other speakers and not as high pitched on the center speaker. Could my 2006 Infinity Modulus II be bad? What now?
Edited by Miami Guy - 2/5/13 at 11:23am
post #990 of 1105
Any suggestions on what to do about the center speaker ERROR?

Also, I tried to upscale to the 4K setting going from my Comcast DVR/Onkyo 717/Samsung D7000 series plasma and the TV lost its signal. All I could see was the TV with a no signal message. I then had to go through the menu while using the small LED screen on the 717, bring it down to 1080p and the image came back to the TV. Is that my TV or the receiver?
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