Originally Posted by Dan Hitchman
Well, supposedly Peter Jackson had all visual effects rendered at 4k, HFR, and 3D. Hence the need for two supporting studios to cover the massive bill. The master, at least, seems to be all that and the kitchen sink. I would assume, due to the high cost to the theater chains per screen to get ready for 48 fps and 3D, the new equipment will accommodate the best as currently possible. However, the passive 3D enabled 4k displays themselves may only support 2k for each eye. That will be the only roadblock. For passive 3D you'd need 8k projectors to get 4k for each eye. That won't be happening any time soon.
In the 3D section of the forum, there was a list made available of all the formats for which The Hobbit will be shown. So far, there will be no 2D HFR presentations. I'd like to see that as a comparison, since I don't really go for 3D.
If MPEG-5 H.265 has a Multi View Codec (MVC) sub set like today's MPEG-4 H.264 on Blu-ray (enabling 1080p for each eye), then you could, in theory, have an active shutter 3D 4k display for the home with 4k available for each eye. I don't see why they wouldn't make this available.
The trouble is this... with the BDA dragging its feet on their own 4k media disc, there are companies (like RED) swooping in to fill the void. This could spell another long, drawn out format war, I fear.
RED's 4k media player, using their proprietary REDCode, does allow for 10 bit and even 12 bit 4k content. The BDA probably would stick with the same 8 bit, 4:2:0 junk to cram as much as they could on the current 50 GB discs. Sony's 4k encoding of The Amazing Spider-Man, probably using H.265, was only 56 GB, but I would suspect it was compressed to within an inch of its life. That was for demonstration purposes of their new 4k flat panel.
what do you think about these comments taken from a couple other hobbit threads:
"An IMB (integrated media block) is also required for 4K 3D or HFR 2D (the hobbit is not being released in HFR 2D), a projector without an IMB can play 4k or 2K 3D but for presentations beyond that will need an IMB. Right now 4K HFR 3D is beyond the capacity of an IMB and the file size of a 3 hr feature in 4K HFR 3D would exceed the capacity of harddrives certified with the IMB system, so a solution is not in the immediate offing."
"here are some contradictory info being posted within the film industry community, but the seems that by those best informed makes it most likely that it is only 2K 3D.
The reasons might be several.
1: There is not enough time to render out 4K HFR 3D to reach cinemas in time for opening. (I believe the production really wish they had some extra months before locking off the post production). Even IMAX might resort to up-rez for those locations that have 4K projectors.
2: The The servers and IMBs are upgraded to 2K 48fps 3D, but are not able to handle the increased data amount of 4K 48fps 3D. This might change for the next instalment.
3: The 4K DLP projectors should be able to handle 4K 48fps 3D = 96fps without internal processor-board upgrades, but are limited by the before mentioned IMBs, but the Sony 4K projectors are not able to handle 4K 3D at all, and maybe not even 96fps because the Lcos panels are to slow. I am in doubt that the Sony Lcos will ever be able to do 4K 3D at all. By this I mean 4K 3D with full 4K resolution for each eye in HFR 3D.
Best solution anyway both for DLP and Lcos is dual stack projections"
Also, you mention passive but expand 3d is active