Vita's are going for cheap prices on Craigslist... - Page 3

And the same third parties that used to devote resources to portables have moved their energies to mobile. The 3DS does well with its dedicated Japanese developers (both first and third party), but not so much with mobile-focused Western developers. The Vita's best bet is to get strong Japanese developer support (JRPGs, Monster Hunter, etc), but the Vita is selling like junk in Japan, so I don't see that happening.

Sony's really got their work cut out for them in winning over third-party publishers.

Funny that, considering how third parties were like moths to a flame for, most notably, ps1/ps2. I'm very curious to see their plan for attracting them to Vita. Perhaps Sony is doing all this realigning and reorganizing to free up $$$ to throw at those publishers?

But why would a lower-tier publisher want to do this? It would cost them more money. They'd simply go to another platform. There are far more platform competitors now than there were five years ago, and many of them are incredibly cheap to develop for.

At this point, Sony needs to do everything they can to win publishers over, not scare them away. The only solution is for Sony to open up the platform as much as possible. But their history with hackers (PSN) and pirates (PSP) has scared them away from open-ness.

http://www.gamestop.com/collection/s...0DK6moSZixw11w

Gamestop deal from Apr 13-26: Buy a Vita, get a free game( choose between Wipeout, Modracers, Hot shots golf) and a free case.

I'm weakening......slowly.

I think the deals will be better in a few months. And there will be more features and games to make it worthwhile. I think I'm back in the camp that was waiting. Now that rough sales estimates for March are rolling in (~200k in the US), we'll start seeing a bigger push from Sony and retailers.

i like the other deal they have, the simulview 3d tv and two games and two glasses for $299.... if I were freshman year of college I'd jump all of that deal... but I don't have anyplace to put that tv now.

Absolutely. I just don't think Sony will force PS3 publishers into doing it.

Well......guess I was weak enough. I was on holiday in NYC this weekend and took advantage of this deal. I'm going to sell off Wipeout and the case though, not big into that series so may as well sell it while I can get something decent for it, and the case is kinda crappy. Picked up an 8gb card too and put some demos, videos, and the free games on it.

Now I'm waiting for some of the launch software to drop to $20( I'm looking at you Rayman Origins, Blazblue, Hotshots Golf and Lumines), and based off what I've seen and played, Gravity Rush is a definite purchase as well as Resistance......

There's a little bit of a story there:

1st Gamestop I visited opposite Macy's on 34th St. didn't have the free case, and couldn't do the deal until they got more in. Neither did the GS across the street in Manhattan Mall. I was staying with friends in New Jersey, so wound up going to a GS in that area. That store only had one copy of Hot Shots, and it was gutted but still being sold as 'new'( which I loathe). That left Wipeout and Modracers, neither of which I'm that interested in, but figured Wipeout would have greater appeal and resale value. Having said that, a co-worker of mine has Wipeout and he says it's really good, so who knows maybe I'll be inspired enough by the demo to hang onto it.

In addition to what I mentioned earlier, I'm interested in Mortal Kombat as well, but since I own the 360 version already I'm not paying $40 for the Vita version( mind you, my threshold for handheld games is $30). Interested in Silent Hill book of memories as well, hopefully it turns out good.

Unfortunately going to another GameStop isn't an option. I live outside North America, and there's no GS store where I'm from. I actually picked up the vita the night before I left, so there was no time for me to exchange.

As to your second point, I'd prefer to directly support the developers as much as possible as opposed to buying on the used market. I'm past the point in my life where I need to buy a game at launch, and with games dropping in price so fast nowadays, many are in that $25-30 range within a few months anyway.

I just picked up my used vita on CL, came with fifa soccer and uncharted, 8gb card wifi version vita, a nerf case and the official PS carrying case.... got all that for $210.

Funny, though, just one run through the ps store with demos and free games and I only have less than 3 gb left on that card....

This thread got me to looking for one on craigslist and I was able to find a new in box 3g Vita for $200. Not too bad a deal. Been messing around with Little Big Planet on it.

I just don't see Sony in a position to drop the price when they are dealing with money loss now. The strategy of dropping the price isn't going to work the same as how it did for Nintendo. If they are making money on the Vita they are not going to want to start losing money just to gain sales on the hardware. They need to increase software and accessories. If they drop the price and software & accessories don't increase they have no options after that.

Vita IMO is an impressive device but it should be priced $59.99 tops. Games should be $9.99 and mem cards should be $5-20. Right noe the prices are highway robbery.

That's funny. You cant even buy a 25 year old donkeykong game from the WII store for under $10.

The Vita should be priced like an ipod 32Gig Touch.
Where oled feature negates 32 Gig feature.

(the 11 inch sony oled tv was selling for $2500)

I have my reasons why i think that.

Sony shoild have learned their lesson from PsP and pspgo. No one will pay console prices for a handheld. Handheld is a dying market, this is 2012 now, most people will just play on their phones and tablets cause they are much more useful in many other ways. They serve a much wider purpose to the customer than just gaming.

Why do you think you always see so many used vitas online for sale? People just dont handheld game anymore. Ive asked em all why theyre selling and its cause its too expemsive for little use. They buy, use for a day and collect dust.

And that is why the games should be 9.99. No one will pay $40-50 for a handheld game, are you kidding me? Its like paying $20 for an app. Ridiculous.

Handheld gaming is for a very small niche market. If somy wants to sell to the casual gamer they need to sell the vitas for $59.99.

Besides what people tend to forget is that most people who have iphones amd ipads or tablets, got them on a plan so they pnly paid a fraction of the units worth.

These devices do a million more things thus making it much more useful and versatile to the consumer. So the average persom ismt going to carry around another unit that is mainly used for gaming, let alone spend $300 plus on it.

This isnt year 2000 anymore, handheld gaming isnt what it used to be

I know the gaming experience isnt as good on an ios device as the vita, but thats not my point. My point is, 99% of people arent going to see any benefit by spending $300+ in getting a vita and have to lug around yet another device when they can just do it all on their current handhelds - phone, tablet, whatever.

Its just how the world has changed in the past 5 years. I cant even remember the last time ive seen someone in public playing on their psp or DS, its cause handheld gaming is a dying breed. Yet I see just about everyone playing on their phones and tablets.

Until people see more use out of a vita, they wont buy it and that would explain the poor sales. And hate to break it to you but who the hell would choose to surf the net on a vita over their tablet? No one.

Ive known a few PSP owners inthe past (hence I say past cause they all have sold their PSPs due to no usage) and none of them brought their PSPs with them anywhere. Why? Cause they didnt want to carry around another device when their phones or tabs could do it.

And for the vita to sell with no onboard memory., how retarded is that? Its like selling ipads with no memory, and charging for a mem card. Do you think that would fly with the consumer?

Im surprised Somy hasnt learned from their past mistakes, pspgo being the most recent. The $250+ for handheld console just garners no interest.

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Last I heard, 3ds was outpacing DS in terms of sales at the same point in its life. I agree 100% that IOS/android gaming on tablets and smartphones has taken a slice of the handheld market. There is, however, still a market for those who want physical buttons, and IPs that can only be found on a Nintendo/Sony device. The Vita will sell better when the price drops( no, not to $59.99, that's a wee bit extreme), memory card prices drop and some more compelling software comes out. 3DS was selling like crap at the same point last spring/summer; a price-cut to $169 and some decent games came out worthy of plucking down the $$$ for a console increased sales dramatically.

Huge dearth of games and it doesnt help they gave one of them away for free (rc racers).

1) hotshots is the only game that has long lasting replayability. I've seen the credits twice, but I've only got 13 crowns. This will take a long time to beat.

2) they need to update the vita store. It's entirely hard finding "new games". I have to jump on the PS3 to see the new stuff easier.

3) I never followed the PSP, so I'd like to see a "best sellers" or "highest rated" for the PSP apps inside the vita store.
Took research on the inet to learn about GoW: sparta, etc.

I'd need some kind of Battlefield or Call of Duty type online shooter before investing in one of these. Those games offer unlimited replayability.

Better yet - just barf out SOCOM II true to the original and I'd be on it in a heartbeat.

Those are some good games.... the trouble is most of them are playable on other consoles, and in some case more expensive than their console counterparts. Now, it depends on the gamer, but I'm not necessarily looking for portable versions of games that already exist for xbox/ps3. In a few cases, yeah, but on the whole I'm far more interested in unique games that are only available on Vita. Gravity Rush, for example...

You sort of answered your own question. One of the big problems with the Vita is that they tried to overload it with features that people already get on their phones. When the original PSP launched, it was cool to have things like Skype. But the tech world has changed a ton since then with the proliferation of smartphones. No one wants a handheld with (pointless) media capabilities and internet browsing. I think the idiots at the corporate level just see that the PS3 is doing well with its media features, so they want the Vita to do the same. The difference is that there's not much competition in that space for the PS3, but the battle over handheld media has already been won by phones/tablets. Now, if Sony were able to turn the Vita into a quality smartphone, well, that would be a different question. But even its media implementation is far clunkier than even the clunkiest smartphone. There's just no reason for anyone to be persuaded by that stuff.

Sony needs this to be a gaming device. They need to bring out the gaming-related features (PS3 connectivity, cloud saves, online play, beefed up storefront, open up to Android-iTunes style game development, etc).

And drop the price, of course.

If you are looking for console quality games, then developers are going to have to put a lot of effort in to making them... thus the $40 price point. I agree, that when comparing to $0.99 games on phones it's tough to sell the $40 game no matter how much better it is.