The Official Panasonic HC-V700 Owners Thread - Page 11

What memory is "safe"?

"treat the SD card, and even camera memory, as temporary. The data is not safe until it is on a computer ."

I am not sure this is true. Sandisk claims that its sd and microsd cards are waterproof, temperature-proof, shockproof, x-ray proof, and impact-proof. By impact-proof, for example, they mean "Able to withstand drops up to 5 meters (16.4 feet) and impact equivalent to being run over by a 5 ton delivery truck." I don't think a regular harddrive could withstand that, or getting wet or being shaken.

See: http://www.sandisk.com/about-sandisk/proof/

Backing up is a good idea, but it seems an sd card might be less "temporary" than a spinning hard disk. I only worry about losing them...

Maybe I overstated the 'safe' part. I should have written that I am more comfortable with a workflow that puts the data on my computer and is backed up to an external drive.

They are small enough to loose, and to get mixed up!

You might laugh if I tell you that when I went on my first trip with my camcorder I was worried about about airport x-rays. And, my new Gorillapod (for small camcorders) had strong magnetic feet. I was sure that was a design flaw. Film and floppy disks had me confused.

Bill
Edited by bsprague - 8/28/12 at 7:39am

Yes I have heard of the class 10 thing with cards. It appears I can get them for less than 40 bucks online. I had a SD card for my hunting trail camera and I put it in my pocket with some change that was in the pocket as well. Some how it shorted out the card and it is now useless. It was very strange. Now I keep them in the little plastic container while carrying them. I guess if I have internal memory there is more that can go wrong with the camcorder vrs not having any internal memory. Also the 96GB HC-V700M cost about $300 more than the 16GB. It seems I can buy alot of SD cards for that extra 300 bucks. lol. Does anyone else on this thread believe there is no advantage to internal memory ??
Edited by matt hammer - 8/28/12 at 9:19am

After using my camera for three months I find it very convenient to use external SD cards. Label them. Carry a small notepad and jot down what is on them. Comes in handy when you get back home.

Somebody posted that the 16GB version is required to use the camera conversion software that comes with it. Not sure if this is true or not. Better check because the panny software is great for converting from 1080p to 1080i for bluray or even 480i for DVD's. Very fast! 5 times quicker than any PC software like Sony Vegas Pro. If you have GPU acceleration you may get near what the Panny camcorder can do but I bet it is still quicker and the conversion is very very good.

The 1080i conversion from 1080p looks better than straight 1080i recordings with the camera IMHO.

Hey everyone I made a small error in my posts. I said the new HC-V700M could be purchased with 96GB of internal memory. I was wrong it is 64Gb. I don't know why I mixed up 96GB with 64GB but I did. Sorry

One more thing to any folks considering buying the HC-V700M that have come here for advise or information. There is a site out there where they advertise the HC-V700M camcorder for $389. This is a great, great price and really gets your attention. Almost to good to be true. Of course before buying any buyer would research the buyer reviews from any company they are buying from right? RIGHT? If you are considering the HC-V700 or any camcorder read buyer reviews as they relate to the company you are buying the camcorder from before buying from any company. I wont mention any company as good or bad or indifferent on this forum because it may violate forum rules I will just say do your homework!! You will be happy you did. I know I did and had I not I would have gotten burned bad!!!!
Edited by matt hammer - 8/28/12 at 8:40pm

Just got mine yesterday....v700m from Amazon, $422 (should have bought a week ago at sub-$400, but it's done.

My use for this cam is at 1080p60...I have an iMac w/ FCP x. It encodes fine w/ the h.264 codec through fcpx, and I have a secondary market $20 app Pavtube converter that will convert it to the huge pro res 422 files if so needed. So far, haven't seen much difference in the end result (besides the 10x file sizes w/ pro res).

You guys that have been working with the cam for a while - worth it to up the bitrate through pro res conversion?

The zoom is a cool feature, but I got this more for the wide...going head-to-head w/ a sony CVX580, which I thnk the panny beats in resolution but loses to in OIS. Anyone have similar/differing experience?

John

U say it losses to the Sony O.I.S. Did you push the button to lock in the o.i.s? I only ask because I tested both Panny and Sony side by side in my hands and panny blew Sonys out of the water. In my opinion of course.

O.I.S is the deciding factor for me going with Panny. The 46x optical zoom which is what I need with the power O.I.S on makes it rock solid when zoomed out to the max optical zoom and even part of the digital zoom. The Sony's had no where near the zoom feature of the HC-V700M. The ones that did where of much lesser image quality and even with the O.I.S on they bounced around like a rubber ball in a racket ball court. The Panny seemed to give me the image quality and with power O.I.S turned on it was so much better than Sony for unacceptable camera shake that I was sold right then. Now I just need to pull the trigger and buy one. I have been futzing around and have come close to buying but the deal seems to evaporate just before I get it. I will own it soon though.
Edited by matt hammer - 8/28/12 at 10:12pm

Sorry I re-posted the same thing guys. Had to edit and delete
Edited by matt hammer - 8/28/12 at 10:12pm

Pitdaddy, That race scene is so cool. Had pit stops even. The camera did a great job capturing the images and the sound. Now I just need to find out where to get one of then there cars.

What is the Quick Power ON option. It defaults to ON. Why even have an option (don't we want things faster)? In other words, why turn this option OFF?

Thanks

Not sure about the v700 but on my tm90 there are two options. Open the display and it turns on without pressing the power button and turns off when closing the display.

There is also a quick standby mode that allows you to start recording in less than a second. Problem with this is the camera is still on and in standby so it drains the battery.

V700 has the same, so if you turn OFF Quick Power ON with the TM90, then opening and closing the LCD will not toggle POWER and you must press the little power button?

Just checked...I use quick power on. I like it turning on when you open the display. Quick start is the other option that drains the battery. I don't use that option.

I was told there is no infrared option for the hc-v700m. There is no hook up for an external infrared either. However, does any one here have any experience with any kind of infrared attachment that can be attached to this cam. There must be a way to buy an aftermarket battery powered infrared that can be somehow hooked up to film in the dark. I have heard of people taking there LED light out and replacing the bulb with a infrared bulb but I would rather know if there is some after market infrared attachment that can somehow be made to work??? Has anyone here done any thing with infrared and found a way around this problem with this particular model??

Hi -- I'm new. Can anyone tell me the differnce between the different HC-V700s? there is a K and a M and some others. We are looking for a good home video camera. I am not very techy so I can't see the differences.

thanks!

M has 16gb of internal memory, and the ability to use SD cards.
K does not have internal memory, just the ability to use SD cards.

I bought the M and stuck an 8gb Transcend class10 card in it ($7 card). This gives ~2 hrs of 1080p60 recording time - longer than the stock batter y will last you.

Curiously, Amazon sells the M for less than the K.

Hi Jennifer - In Panasonic-speak, "K" is for Black and "M" is for 16GB of built in flash memory. Interestingly, the model with the built in memory (HC-V700MK) is generally less expensive than the model without it (HC-V700K), so you might as well get the HC-700MK.

Hope this is helpful,

Bill
Hybrid Camera Revolution

awesome! thanks!

Does anyone know of a way to hook any kind of remote to the V700? Just the ability to zoom while the camera is high up on a tripod would be fantastic.

Hi guys, I bought my HC-V700 3 months ago and I am using it almost everyday but as I rendered some clips I discovered that my quality is much lower than the average video on youtube captured with the HC-V700 for example:

My video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXUCjI3-K0Q

Random video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HytTs9KGQ8w

I really want to know why my quality is worser than others, could any one help me with this problem?

Cheers

I think the clarity is about the same. I don't see any real difference between the image quality. What is it you are saying is the big difference???

the hcv700k is on sale at amazon for 375!

One more question -- which Flash Card should I get with the camera? I'm confused on all the classes and write speeds. what does a camcorder need? thanks!!

Class 10

Some have used class 4 cards without a problem but I went with class 10. Figured file download to PC would be quicker.

After some testing it seams this option only has to do with where the zoom starts. If OFF, then zoom is where you left it. If ON then zoom is at 1x. I guess if the camcorder resets to 1X every time power goes off, then I can see how that might speed things up a little.

Ok I just ordered this badboy. Are there any settings I should tweak before I start using it?

It turns on when you open the LCD screen. If off you have to use the power button. Thats how it works on a TM90. I will try setting my zoom to something long instead of wide to see if it resets to wide when I power up using the power button.

I think I would want it to reset to wide though.

Wow you are right! My TM90 does the same thing and it still turns off when you close the LCD screen. Only the zoom stays where you last left it. Doesn't seem to power up any faster with quick turn on actually ON.
Edited by Ronomy - 9/4/12 at 8:21pm

I still thinking of getting a 700. Anyone have any examples of the stabilization during walking? I'm convinced it very good when handheld when still, but the sample I saw on Youtube on a bike doesn't look that good. I know you have to up the shutter speed (I've gotten good stuff from my car mounted Canon HF100 using 1/250 or 1/500) and think the Youtube stuff was shot at too slow a shutter speed for the stablization to keep up.

Anyway, anyone here having success with using the 700 as a "run and gun" as is?

Thanks.