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post #61 of 739
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Originally Posted by Kayook View Post

If you find yourself in a hurry, here's what I did; signed up for the free month of Amazon Prime and got free 2 day shipping, had the cam in my hands in 2 days, love it!

USPS just dropped off the Wasabi kit, the batteries look identical to the Panny 360 ones. Just heading out the door for the weekend, will charge them up at the lodge and see how well they compare. Love how small the charger is.

Awesome, let us know how it works for you. I think I read somewhere that it's chipped (or whatever the term is) but confirmation will get me ordering asap.
post #62 of 739
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Originally Posted by jazztalker View Post

Awesome, let us know how it works for you. I think I read somewhere that it's chipped (or whatever the term is) but confirmation will get me ordering asap.

Only used one of the Wasabi VWVBK-360's for about 40 min so far. It is chipped, stating now that I have 1 hr, 10 min left on charge and I am shooting at 1080p exclusively.
So I am very happy with how much money was saved getting these since I have already spent the full price for 1 extra Panasonic VWVBK 360. I did not actually time it but the Wasabi charged faster on the dedicated charger compared to how long the Panny does via the camcorder.

All is not perfect though, the battery may look identical but the Wasabi's do not fit perfectly tight in this camcorder, they wiggle a tad. Compared them all and the stock 180 battery that comes with it fits perfect with no wiggle as does the over priced Panasonic 360, perfect fit. My remedy was 2 small strips of Gorilla tape (any duct tape should work), stuck on the very back side of the battery, still a slight wiggle but tight enough for me. I think if I cut the tape to fit the size of the backplate it would fit like the Panasonic's do.

For the price, I think it's still worth it though, the charger is small and has flip out prongs. Not sure if I want to charge my Panny batteries on it until I find out if that's ok. Have not tried the car charger adapter yet either.

Much more testing to do
post #63 of 739
Thanks for the update. Sounds like a definite improvement in battery life and it's great that the camcorder can still display remaining life. Add in the price, and I think I'll order mine soon.

As soon as you started to mention the fit I remembered reading that somewhere else as well. Is it just an annoyance without the tape, it would you say the tape is a necessity? For the price I don't see that being a deciding factor at all, I'm just curious.

Thanks again!
post #64 of 739
Kayook- I charged my Panasonic battery with the Wasabi charger. Matter of fact, put it on the charger and went to bed. Next morning it was ready to go...never blew up or anything like that.

Yesterday I used one in the heat of the day for about 2 hours. Put it on the charger last night before going to bed. It was still charging 6 hours later when I woke. Forgot to check it before going to work.

These are just lithium ion batteries. What type of charger is used to charge these is the key.

Back to yesterday. Did a lot of shooting outdoors. Will try to put together something on Youtube.
post #65 of 739
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Originally Posted by jazztalker View Post

Thanks for the update. Sounds like a definite improvement in battery life and it's great that the camcorder can still display remaining life. Add in the price, and I think I'll order mine soon.

As soon as you started to mention the fit I remembered reading that somewhere else as well. Is it just an annoyance without the tape, it would you say the tape is a necessity? For the price I don't see that being a deciding factor at all, I'm just curious.

Thanks again!

I guess it depends on what you consider annoying. When I changed out the Panny to the Wasabi within minutes of shooting I noticed the slight clacking sound coming from it whenever I walked too briskly or was jogging (was stalking a herd of elk when this happened). It was like a mosquito bite then, couldn't keep my hands off of it, had to check the wiggle to make sure I wasn't imagining it.

So yeah for me the tape is a necessity but an easy fix if you so choose to try it and probably not an issue if your not chasing after animal footage
post #66 of 739
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Originally Posted by pitdaddy View Post

Kayook- I charged my Panasonic battery with the Wasabi charger. Matter of fact, put it on the charger and went to bed. Next morning it was ready to go...never blew up or anything like that.

Yesterday I used one in the heat of the day for about 2 hours. Put it on the charger last night before going to bed. It was still charging 6 hours later when I woke. Forgot to check it before going to work.

These are just lithium ion batteries. What type of charger is used to charge these is the key.

Back to yesterday. Did a lot of shooting outdoors. Will try to put together something on Youtube.

Cool, good to know.

My Panny 360 battery did the same thing after using it outdoors on a hot day, took well over 5 hours to charge via the camcorder.
post #67 of 739
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Originally Posted by Kayook View Post

I guess it depends on what you consider annoying. When I changed out the Panny to the Wasabi within minutes of shooting I noticed the slight clacking sound coming from it whenever I walked too briskly or was jogging (was stalking a herd of elk when this happened). It was like a mosquito bite then, couldn't keep my hands off of it, had to check the wiggle to make sure I wasn't imagining it.

So yeah for me the tape is a necessity but an easy fix if you so choose to try it and probably not an issue if your not chasing after animal footage

That works for me, and yeah - I'm sure that's something I'd fidget with too the second I noticed it. Thanks!
post #68 of 739
I'm looking at buying this camera to document my baby's birth and first years. I as many others have read about the fan and zoom noise. Though I watched a You Tube clip that was mentioned a bit back in this thread and I can't say I find it disturbing.

Though, I saw another clip where the mic picked up the wind pretty bad. Has anyone experienced any problems with this?

Other then this the camera seems like a really good choice.
post #69 of 739
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Originally Posted by Freddan101 View Post

I'm looking at buying this camera to document my baby's birth and first years. I as many others have read about the fan and zoom noise. Though I watched a You Tube clip that was mentioned a bit back in this thread and I can't say I find it disturbing.

Though, I saw another clip where the mic picked up the wind pretty bad. Has anyone experienced any problems with this?

Other then this the camera seems like a really good choice.

Wind noise can be terrible on this cam with the in-cam mics, it does have a mic-out though but have not yet tried it.
post #70 of 739
I'm looking for a good wireless mic setup.
post #71 of 739
You could always try a windcutter. The before/after vids I've seen of them sound pretty impressive for a cheap solution.

http://vimeo.com/3777332

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8wrZVhRQj4

Not perfect, but it might be a good enough solution depending on your use.
post #72 of 739
Thanks a lot for the comments guys. There seems to be a quite easy solution to the wind noise then if needed then. I guess it's hard to find a compact video camera in this price range that has no wind nosie issues at all.
post #73 of 739
Shot some r/c car racing- RC Pro Series Intermediate A Main Tried shooting different angles to see if sunlight would make a difference.
post #74 of 739
"I guess it's hard to find a compact video camera in this price range that has no wind nosie issues at all."

All microphones have an "issue" with wind not matter what they are mounted in or on. This is not an problem specific to this camera, or any other camera (maybe mic placement might matter - top or front, but that is not going to matter much). Have you ever watched a professional movie made? Note that all the mics are covered with (fake) fur. No one can avoid wind noise outdoors without a muffler of some sort. Mics record sound by converting pressure into electrical current - they cannot tell the difference between pressure from wind or from windbags . I suppose if the mics were very insensitive and had limited frequency response, wind noise might be less, but then so would sound quality.

Again, wind noise is not an issue with the Panasonic, it is an issue of trying to record audio with unprotected mics when there is wind. Do not use wind noise as a criterion for picking a camera.
post #75 of 739
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Originally Posted by pitdaddy View Post

Shot some r/c car racing- RC Pro Series Intermediate A Main Tried shooting different angles to see if sunlight would make a difference.

Thanks for sharing - I don't have any problems with that video quality. Plus, it's just kind of a cool video to watch, looks like fun.
post #76 of 739
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Originally Posted by pitdaddy View Post

Shot some r/c car racing- RC Pro Series Intermediate A Main Tried shooting different angles to see if sunlight would make a difference.

Wow that is cool!
post #77 of 739
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Originally Posted by markr041 View Post

"I guess it's hard to find a compact video camera in this price range that has no wind nosie issues at all."

All microphones have an "issue" with wind not matter what they are mounted in or on. This is not an problem specific to this camera, or any other camera (maybe mic placement might matter - top or front, but that is not going to matter much). Have you ever watched a professional movie made? Note that all the mics are covered with (fake) fur. No one can avoid wind noise outdoors without a muffler of some sort. Mics record sound by converting pressure into electrical current - they cannot tell the difference between pressure from wind or from windbags . I suppose if the mics were very insensitive and had limited frequency response, wind noise might be less, but then so would sound quality.

Again, wind noise is not an issue with the Panasonic, it is an issue of trying to record audio with unprotected mics when there is wind. Do not use wind noise as a criterion for picking a camera.

Thanks for the comment! I went ahead and ordered the camera together with a 64GB card yesterday. Should arrive today!
post #78 of 739
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Originally Posted by ITemplate View Post

Hi,

Are there any mechanical / quality differences choosing a V700? For example in my country, I can get the "HC-V700M" and the "HC-V700EC-K"...but what are the differences - should I care?

Werner

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Originally Posted by pitdaddy View Post

16Gb will give you 1 hour and 20 minutes of continuous recording at 1080p. Make sure and buy a 'class 10' card. Yes, 'sdhc'. I like to catch them on sale.

Look back a couple pages and you will see more info on recording & battery times.

As for any differences between V700's I would imagine they are all pretty close. Your country might be PAL format or 50p standard and the camera could be geared towards that. Here in the US we are NTSC.


Another difference between the 700 and the 700M is that the 700M allows for converting 1080/60p to 1080/60i. This is done by copying the clip from the internal memory to the SD card ... while the camcorder is converting from 60p to 60i. You can also downconvert from 60i to SDTV as well, in the same fashion.

Might not be terribly useful, but if you record everything in 1080/60p, but your PC/Mac isn't up to it, you can convert to 60i prior to import. Based on the manual, it looks like the camcorder will convert very quickly ... faster than all but a fast Mac/PC.
post #79 of 739
ftaok I just wanted to ask that question
Are you sure that you cannot convert material with v700? I would love to have that feature because sometimes I just want to quickly drop few files into iMovie and export them in lower quality. Unfortunatelly v700M is not available in my country :/
post #80 of 739
Can some of the fellow owners of the V700 comment on the specific brand, class and model of SD cards that they are using. I'm somewhat pro-Sandisk.

For example, if you look at Sandisk Class 10s, there are about 4-5...for example:

SDSDRX3-032G-A21
SDSDRX3-016G-A21
SDSDU-032G-A11
SDSDU-016G-A11

Let me know. Thanks.
post #81 of 739
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Originally Posted by kanch View Post

Can some of the fellow owners of the V700 comment on the specific brand, class and model of SD cards that they are using. I'm somewhat pro-Sandisk.

For example, if you look at Sandisk Class 10s, there are about 4-5...for example:

SDSDRX3-032G-A21
SDSDRX3-016G-A21
SDSDU-032G-A11
SDSDU-016G-A11

Let me know. Thanks.

I just bought the camera together with a 64 GB SanDisk Extreme 45MB/s. I want the speed when transfering clips from the card to the computer. Product# SDSDX-064G-X46.
post #82 of 739
I'm going to buy a v700 in a next couple of days and I'm just curious how annoying is slow white balance? I've seen it in few youtube clips and its really slow (4-5sec maybe), my old Sony sr11 was much faster but in the other hand Sony auto focus was terrible :/
Is wb issue really a problem or just minor annoyance?
post #83 of 739
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Originally Posted by jazztalker View Post

You could always try a windcutter. The before/after vids I've seen of them sound pretty impressive for a cheap solution.

http://vimeo.com/3777332

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8wrZVhRQj4

Not perfect, but it might be a good enough solution depending on your use.

I use wind cutter on my tm90 and turn off the electronic wind reducing feature. Much better sound! You will still have some noise but nothing like without it. Highly recommended!
post #84 of 739
If you liked the r/c videos here is another in 1080p. This time I was working with 'intelligent contrast' & 'backlight compensation'.

Pro Buggy A Main

The ability to shoot at a wider angle with this lens than comparable other camcorders has come to my advantage over & over. Most of the video above was shot with the lens at it's widest setting.

Yesterday morning I worked with my polarization filter. Will put a small clip up on Youtube sometime later this week.
post #85 of 739
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Originally Posted by mmoskon View Post

ftaok I just wanted to ask that question
Are you sure that you cannot convert material with v700? I would love to have that feature because sometimes I just want to quickly drop few files into iMovie and export them in lower quality. Unfortunatelly v700M is not available in my country :/

I can't say this with 100% conviction. I will say that the user's manual states that this feature is for the 700M only.

I think that the process needs to go from the internal memory to the SD card. I don't think that it's possible (at least with Panny's methods) to copy and convert the same SD Card.

Perhaps someone with a VC700 could check to see if the menu offers this feature.

ft
post #86 of 739
Page 110 of the owners manual says you can convert format when copying.
post #87 of 739
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Originally Posted by pitdaddy View Post

Page 110 of the owners manual says you can convert format when copying.

Page 109 says that the copying/convert feature is for the 700M only. There's no need for copying on the 700, since it doesn't have internal memory.

I don't have a 700, so I can't say if there's a separate feature on the menu that allows for converting ... but I doubt it since it's not in the manual.

700/700M manual
post #88 of 739
Yes, it looks like that feature is for 700M only :/
Shame, it would be nice to have it for example when copying from sd to computer.
post #89 of 739
Hello,
Last month I posted some v700 clips on YouTube under the name/channel BitingCommentator. I was very glad to see that some folks on here referenced them and got a little use out of them! Some of the titles are listed below.

Panasonic HCV700 Color Night Rec Demo
Panasonic HC V700 Low Light, @ Auto Museum
HCV700k Camera and Zoom noise test

The Comments here proving very helpful.
AL
post #90 of 739
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Originally Posted by mmoskon View Post

I'm going to buy a v700 in a next couple of days and I'm just curious how annoying is slow white balance? I've seen it in few youtube clips and its really slow (4-5sec maybe), my old Sony sr11 was much faster but in the other hand Sony auto focus was terrible :/
Is wb issue really a problem or just minor annoyance?

I recommend that you make the WB setting manually before you record, the manual setting is retained and then you don't take the Chance that you might encounter the auto-setting while filming. The only time I seem to have had the problem was recording subjects with a large amount of white in them. But I'm very interested to see what the other 'victims', of this issueare recording when this issue kicks in?
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