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Originally Posted by padre653 View Post

I notice everyone discussing editing software. I haven't seen anyone discuss Avid Studio Ultimate 16.
Does no one else like this software?
Until recently, there has been little discussion about editing software on this forum as it has been an equipment forum. As an equipment forum, most are usually interested in unedited clips that demonstrate performance attributes of particular cameras.

Frankly, I have yet to find useful NLE reviews. There are about 30 you can buy. Each can take months to master or even fully understand. No one reviewer can learn more than a few. It seems that it is more effective to make the commitment to one of the common ones and get to where you can use it fluently.

If you like Avid, stick with it and be a master at it.

Bill
post #632 of 739
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Originally Posted by bsprague View Post

...No other editing software has that level of universal support. ...

Hey now, I wouldn't go so far as to make that claim! Granted I've only been using Sony Movie Studio Platinum 12 Suite (wow that's a mouthful) for a couple months now, it has a plethora of online support as well:

Sony's Online Training has DVDs for purchase, free "Webinars" and software training videos, and subscriptions to their "support plans."

Included on the disc are several general tutorial videos to get you up and running.

Also included within the program is the "Show Me How" button where the program will walk you step-by-step through basic editing techniques and commands until you're familiar with them.

I'm sure there are also books, blogs, and forums regarding usage of the software and, while there are many others, I consistently finding myself consulting this YouTube channel for user-made tutorials.

Bottom line: it appears the heavy hitters of video editing software both offer learning material and resources. I'd try the trials offered by whichever ones you're looking at and chose the one that is the most intuitive to you!

The only reason I ended up buying Sony Movie Studio was the fact that I'd started using the trial version to create my "Making Baby" video (posted in the "Why do you shoot video..." thread) and didn't want to lose all the progress I'd made by the time the trial ran out. Before I tried SMS, I made one other video using Windows Movie Maker, so it was obviously a huge upgrade.

Evan
post #633 of 739
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Originally Posted by bsprague View Post

...It seems that it is more effective to make the commitment to one of the common ones and get to where you can use it fluently.

I second that! Whichever is:

A) Within budget
B) Intuitive for you to use
C) Gets the job done, whatever your goal is

is probably your best bet.

Evan
post #634 of 739
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Originally Posted by evanwhat View Post

Hey now, I wouldn't go so far as to make that claim! Granted I've only been using Sony Movie Studio Platinum 12 Suite (wow that's a mouthful) for a couple months now, it has a plethora of online support as well:

Sony's Online Training has DVDs for purchase, free "Webinars" and software training videos, and subscriptions to their "support plans."

Included on the disc are several general tutorial videos to get you up and running.

Also included within the program is the "Show Me How" button where the program will walk you step-by-step through basic editing techniques and commands until you're familiar with them.

I'm sure there are also books, blogs, and forums regarding usage of the software and, while there are many others, I consistently finding myself consulting this YouTube channel for user-made tutorials.

Bottom line: it appears the heavy hitters of video editing software both offer learning material and resources. I'd try the trials offered by whichever ones you're looking at and chose the one that is the most intuitive to you!

The only reason I ended up buying Sony Movie Studio was the fact that I'd started using the trial version to create my "Making Baby" video (posted in the "Why do you shoot video..." thread) and didn't want to lose all the progress I'd made by the time the trial ran out. Before I tried SMS, I made one other video using Windows Movie Maker, so it was obviously a huge upgrade.

Evan
"Hey now, I wouldn't go so far as to make that claim!" I stand corrected!

The first NLE I spent money on was Sony Movie Studio Platinum 11 Suite. I liked it a lot for about a month.. One day it refused to run. Not even a little bit. I fought it for a month. I couldn't get Sony Creative Software to answer my emails. I was able to figure out it had something to do with "permissions" and the "registry". I gave it away to someone I met in this forum. A couple days latter I got an email from Sony saying I could fix it if I made a new "user" on my computer. It was too late, as I had started down the Adobe trail.

I didn't feel too bad. I bought it when it was on sale and I had a Fry's coupon. I was only down about $15. I kept all the music tracks and use them occasionally.

The "Show me how" button is pretty cool. That was one of my favorite features.

I've read that there is a smooth upgrade path from Movie Studio to Vegas Pro. Adobe is much different. The consumer Premier Elements and the professional Premier CS6 are not related in any way. The development and marketing teams are separate. The code is not shared. The only relation might be that ideas in Pro may be copied for Elements.

Bill
post #635 of 739
My V700 arrived the other day!!! Really pleased to have got hold of this as it is selling out fast here. Price has been reduced to £299.99 (around $464) from a National store here in the UK called John Lewis. However, whilst looking around for a case for the V700 I stumbled on the site again and it is now down to £279.99!!!!! ($434) so I was not amused!! It is still showing "out of stock" but it does look like the new V720 is having an affect on the price of the V700.

At least I have one and I have been out and about the village area testing it out - very impressed so far!!

I have been playing with the trial versions of Cyberlink Power Director Suite, Sony Platinum Suite 12 and Adobe Premiere Elements 12 and I have finally decided on the editing software I feel most comfortable with and that is Sony Movie Studio Platinum Suite. Found it very intuitive and quite easy to find my way around. I don't think there is that much between any of them, but I got this at a very good price £44.99 ($70) which is a snip for the Suite version (3 programs in one really)

I did get a case too. The Lowepro Digital Video Case 30 which is nice and small yet easily takes the V700 and a spare batter can sit below it which is all that I need when carrying on my belt etc.

So, all in all I'm a happy chappy at the moment!!!

Learned a lot reading comments from you guys and I'd like to thank those that responded to my posts and offered all the advice etc - thank you.


Nigel
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I am totally new to video. However I have been wanting one for a very long time. I finally bit the bullet and have been researching like crazy. Reading everything I can. Watching videos, looking at stills. I bought the V700 from newegg for 399.99. From what I have read on here and that price is a steal! Ill be using it for mostly vacation video. Not married and dont have any kids. But I will use it for Family functions on occasion. Im afraid I wont be using it as much as I should be. So my next question is. Do you think I would be better off with the FZ200. the Reason I ask is because with the FZ200 will get more use out of it. Really it does everything I want but I have to admit. I like the video better on V700. But with this price how can I go wrong. Even if I dont use it that much its still a good investment for me. I just cant decide. Spend the extra 100 on the FZ200 or not. I still have a great camera so dont really need a new one. Hmmm...carry one or carry 2 things. Really the only reason I bought it is because Im going on a Cruise in Sept. I have been going back and forth for over a week now. I wish this was easier!!! Ok going back to read and compare some more. Anyone with any thoughts about this? I appreciate any feedback good or bad. Thanks.
post #637 of 739
Most places online i'm looking for this camera is showing it as Discontinued. anyone know what is replacing it?
post #638 of 739
V720 and it is supposed to start shipping this month.

http://shop.panasonic.com/shop/cameras-and-camcorders-camcorders
post #639 of 739
Thanks the wifi option looks nice, but i wonder the price the 700k can be had for $399 right now.
post #640 of 739
I've been watching the price of these for a few weeks, hoping for a clearance sale or two. However as UK stocks become limited the price in some stores is actually going UP. I got mine for £279.99 the same as NJM48 which is £20 off the norm but other stores are hiking their prices by £20-30.
post #641 of 739
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Originally Posted by Ayrton5 View Post

I've been watching the price of these for a few weeks, hoping for a clearance sale or two. However as UK stocks become limited the price in some stores is actually going UP. I got mine for £279.99 the same as NJM48 which is £20 off the norm but other stores are hiking their prices by £20-30.

You did well Ayrton5 if you managed to get a V700 for £279.99

I got mine from John Lewis for 20 quid more - then I saw they had reduced them 2 days after I bought.....Grrrrrr!!!!

However, they were showing out of stock and were allowing customers to request an email when they were in stock - presumably at the lower price - so they must be optimistic about getting some more.

I got it while I could because like you, I think they are going to be scarce from now on.

Where did you get yours from?


Nigel
post #642 of 739
Just bought me one for $399
post #643 of 739
@NJM48... Argos... good times - had a fistful of Argos vouchers that got me 1/3 of the way there biggrin.gif

I was using OfferOfTheDay.co.uk to monitor the price. I think John Lewis went down in response to Argos, but then JL quickly went out of stock. Then Argos were very close to out of stock too - I found one of about 3 that were available in the entire Midlands. Tesco's have run out. OOTD only have Asda left (that's Walmart, Colonial Cousins) at £359.

The 720 looks like it's going to come in at near twice what I've just paid. Basically that is for 5.1 sound (that I don't think can possibly work that well on a built in mic), and the Wifi thing, which is a nice party piece, but really how much will you use it?

I'm well chuffed with what I've got. I'm looking hard for the right case to keep it in - I want a close fit, I don't want to keep accessories in with it as I have a bigger camera bag for that, and I don't want it rattling around either. I went into Currys today to try the Lowepro that you have, I kind of liked it, but the opening looked a bit tight for me to be squeezing my £300 camcorder past more than once or twice. Currys also had the Lowepro Apex 100 which was a good fit in two dimensions and had a separator, I'd have bought it if it weren't £29.99 - my credit card has had enough for now eek.gif

Also @NJM48 your John Lewis £299 buys you an extra year's warranty, that is worth £20 of anyone's money so I wouldn't worry about not having had the best deal, I think you have.
post #644 of 739
Received my Camcorder today. Havent taken it out of the box yet. Still trying to decide if I want this or a DSLR. But just in case I decide to keep it can someone tell me a way to make sure everything is working properly. Like should I just record anything? Play it back to see if anything is wrong with the video? Any suggestions? Thanks in advance.
post #645 of 739
Just got mine in mail today too. Need to order a good size SD card. Thinking at least 32GB. Any suggestions or are they all similar? Also see they make them with WiFi too now. Any thoughts Ion those?
post #646 of 739
A 32GB Class 10 SDHC is a good choice. Class 10 is about three times faster than the 1080p data stream. Faster, more expensive, SDXC cards don't do a thing for your camera, but may transfer a little faster to your computer. But that depends on the computer.

You should pay less than $1.00 per GB. You may be able to save some money if you buy Class 4 cards. Check your book, but I'm pretty sure it will say "Class 4 and above". Some get mega bits per second confused with mega bytes per second and think they will get more performance out of spendy SDXC cards. They don't!

I like these:
Transcend-Class-10

SanDisk-Ultra-Class-10

A slightly different approach is to buy several smaller cards. Tourists sometimes do this. They buy enough to put in a fresh card every day or two on a trip. Malfunctions are rare, but if one card fails, the entire trip is not lost.

Bill
post #647 of 739
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Originally Posted by Blake08 View Post

Received my Camcorder today. Havent taken it out of the box yet. Still trying to decide if I want this or a DSLR. But just in case I decide to keep it can someone tell me a way to make sure everything is working properly. Like should I just record anything? Play it back to see if anything is wrong with the video? Any suggestions? Thanks in advance.
My suggestion is to record a series of 20 second clips in different light and sound environments. Do some gentle zooming and panning. Use the 1080p60 setting. Then plug the camera directly into a big HDTV with an HDMI cord and watch. Everytime time I've done that, people are impressed. I doubt you will send it back!
post #648 of 739
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Originally Posted by bsprague View Post

A 32GB Class 10 SDHC is a good choice. Class 10 is about three times faster than the 1080p data stream. Faster, more expensive, SDXC cards don't do a thing for your camera, but may transfer a little faster to your computer. But that depends on the computer.

You should pay less than $1.00 per GB. You may be able to save some money if you buy Class 4 cards. Check your book, but I'm pretty sure it will say "Class 4 and above". Some get mega bits per second confused with mega bytes per second and think they will get more performance out of spendy SDXC cards. They don't!

I like these:
Transcend-Class-10

SanDisk-Ultra-Class-10

A slightly different approach is to buy several smaller cards. Tourists sometimes do this. They buy enough to put in a fresh card every day or two on a trip. Malfunctions are rare, but if one card fails, the entire trip is not lost.

Bill

What about the WiFi cards?
post #649 of 739
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Originally Posted by Ayrton5 View Post


Also @NJM48 your John Lewis £299 buys you an extra year's warranty, that is worth £20 of anyone's money so I wouldn't worry about not having had the best deal, I think you have.

Yes, good point. 2 years guarantee from John Lewis is worth something!!

About the case I mentioned, it is a tight fit which is what I wanted, but there is not problem getting it in. I have the top of the V700 facing the zip part so that I don't catch them when putting the camera in (I don't think it would, but being cautious!) I also have a spare battery at the bottom of the case that the V700 sits on (I put the battery side in first and the lens area is not in contact) Very neat and tidy and is the best I have seen for size. I wanted something that I could put on my belt.

Good luck!!


Nigel
post #650 of 739
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Originally Posted by tbraden32 View Post

What about the WiFi cards?
What about them. My understanding is that Eye-Fi is a brand that has a cute process of moving small snapshots to your smartphone for immediate posting on Facebook.

If you shoot much video and use the best quality settings on your new camcorder, you will be surprised by how big the files are.

I will enjoy reading your reports of using a Eye-Fi to transfer the contents of a SD card full of video files to Facebook via smartphone.

A 16GB Eye-Fi pro is about $90. If it were $20, I might try one.

On the other hand, you may have something in mind that I have no experience with.

Bill
post #651 of 739
I ordered two 32GB Transend cards today off amazon. $23 each free shipping on my Prime account.

Thanks for the info and help!
post #652 of 739
Hi all, just ordered mine from newegg for $399. this will be my first HD camcorder, so i have a few questions.

I'm planning on getting a UV filter to protect the lens. To take advantage of the cams wide angle lens, do I need to get the Step-Up Adapter Ring 46mm Lens Filter to 58mm Filter Size with a 58mm Filter or will a 46mm filter be just fine?

I would also like to further protect my cam. Water proof would be great, but those case cost way too much. Does anyone know of an inexpensive way to splash guard camcorders?

Any help would be appreciated.
post #653 of 739
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Originally Posted by aRBoxX9p View Post

Hi all, just ordered mine from newegg for $399. this will be my first HD camcorder, so i have a few questions.

I'm planning on getting a UV filter to protect the lens. To take advantage of the cams wide angle lens, do I need to get the Step-Up Adapter Ring 46mm Lens Filter to 58mm Filter Size with a 58mm Filter or will a 46mm filter be just fine?

I would also like to further protect my cam. Water proof would be great, but those case cost way too much. Does anyone know of an inexpensive way to splash guard camcorders?

Any help would be appreciated.

With my Panasonic SDT750, I screwed the UV filter on directly. No step up ring required.

One cheap way to splash guard a camera is with an Op-Tech bag: http://www.amazon.com/OP-TECH-USA-Rainsleeve-18-Inch/dp/B000PTFDYO/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1361566570&sr=1-2

Bill
post #654 of 739
I'm not for a moment suggesting this is top grade but it will do until I can afford something better smile.gif
Cheapy UV and cap and hood

I don't like how easily the lens cover is moved by the brush of a finger. So I'm going to keep something in front of it.
post #655 of 739
Thanks for the heads up on that - I just ordered one too!!

If it does the trick then fine but as you say, we could always upgrade if we don't think it is a permanent job!!!


Nigel
post #656 of 739
Any one know where I can get a new V700 for around $400.00 ? I missed the 399 deal for the pany V700 at Newegg. Any leads on a good source for a close out price. I see them at amazon for about 500 bucks Can't see paying that much for a close out item, When a preorder for a V720 is $549.99, Am I missing something ??

Says ships in Feb ???? Thanks
post #657 of 739
A good place to shop for cheap step-up rings and UV/CPL/Etc filters (in the US) is camerafilters.com

Durability Testing
This weekend, I tried to put together a collapsible boom setup out of 4' lengths of pvc pipe and connectors. Got 3 together, which would allow me to quickly set up a boom cam mount while hiking. Tried it out in the house and it *just* managed the v700m somewhat comfortably. Took my contraption outside to the driveway and as soon as I stretched up and out to shoot over the roof, the boom broke, leaving the butt 4' section in my hand. the V700m came crashing down from about 9' onto hard concrete. I shuttered to think that I'd soon be looking for that "drops and spills" contract. To my surprise, when I powered up, there was a message that the camera was rescuing itself or something. Then it came back on, good as normal, including the stabilization, out to 46x zoom and back. Only sign of incident is some scuffing on the chrome to the side of the lens and the record button.
post #658 of 739
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Originally Posted by abdiver View Post

Any one know where I can get a new V700 for around $400.00 ? I missed the 399 deal for the pany V700 at Newegg. Any leads on a good source for a close out price. I see them at amazon for about 500 bucks Can't see paying that much for a close out item, When a preorder for a V720 is $549.99, Am I missing something ??

Says ships in Feb ???? Thanks

This might be a different model, but Fry's has the HC-V700MK for $349.99. They normally have it for $600, but it's on sale for $250 off the normal price.

They also have the HC-X900MK for $699.99 (regularly $1199.99)
post #659 of 739
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Originally Posted by Anthony1 View Post

This might be a different model, but Fry's has the HC-V700MK for $349.99. They normally have it for $600, but it's on sale for $250 off the normal price.

They also have the HC-X900MK for $699.99 (regularly $1199.99)

I called frys they said the one they had in Concord was a display model and recommended the extended warranty 3 yrs for 69 bucks, and being it was a display I would have gotten another discount because of that.

Thanks I found it online http://www.frys.com/ads/page5#AdNavi But (seems like there is always a but) the nearest Frys is almost a 4 hr round trip drive for me so for me it does work. Thanks again for your tip I hope it helps someone who lives closer
post #660 of 739
I received my cam a few days ago and still playing with it. I am trying to use the sports/action setting, but the icon keeps blinking, indicating that its not working because not enough light. How do I use this setting with the proper amount of light, without washing out the subject?
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