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post #661 of 739
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Originally Posted by aRBoxX9p View Post

I received my cam a few days ago and still playing with it. I am trying to use the sports/action setting, but the icon keeps blinking, indicating that its not working because not enough light. How do I use this setting with the proper amount of light, without washing out the subject?
sports setting == fast shutter speed, which you cannot get in low light without adding gain. Slow shutter speed == blur. High gain == noise. Learn manual mode, you will learn how the camera actually works. Forget scene modes.
post #662 of 739
Ok so I went to the bathroom and came back after writing a long post, sat down and hit the back button on my wirless keyboard. Time to kick the stinking dog. Darnit, anyhow I just received the Hc-v720 a couple of days ago and really like the video but would like a comparison to the 700 . Im a little ticked so far the 720 has WIFI built in but has no compatibility with the PC only Android phones and Apple . Why the heck would they do that? Any help or comparisons to the 700 would be great. I want to keep this camcorder but want a reason to also. Thanks
This is my first post after being a member for years, Thanks for all the help and enjoyment you all have given me. I bought the Infocus X1 years ago because of AVS, I wasn't disappointed at all. I recently pulled the plug on the Benq W1070 and its great. No problems at all. This forum is awsome and Im now settled down abit , hope I can help someone else out also. So HI everyone. " NOTE" I just posted this in the new 720 thread and thought it would be ok here also. Hope so. Wow learning the ins and outs of a camera is more involved then I thought. My goal is to run this thing in manual mode and know at least somewhat what im doing. I want the best quality I can get. Thanks again
post #663 of 739
Picked up a new HC-V720 from Newegg at $399. Was pretty happy with it, got a lot of fun footage at the LA Zoo. After doing some testing, the camera made some serious grinding noises as the lens cover was closing. Had to take the battery off to stop it. End result:dead camera.

Not sure what happened, but the camera would not turn on for more than a minute, and the lens cover wouldn't fully close.
RMA'd to Newegg, but only got a refund of my $$$, as the camera is now "discontinued". I am replacing it with the HC-V720, but I am pretty sure that the Wasabi battery packs I got won't fit the 720. I will find out for sure when the 720 arrives on Thursday.

So...If anyone wants the battery packs/wall charger/car adapter (they all work just fine, never got past the testing phase), I'd be happy to sell it to you for $30 plus actual shipping costs...

(I realize this is probably bad form to hawk an item in my first post...I think Panasonic should be chastised for changing the battery design so often, and if I could help out a 700 owner in the process...I intend to be very active over at the "720 Owners Thread" when my camera shows up...)
Edited by Flyfi - 3/18/13 at 7:29pm
post #664 of 739
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Originally Posted by Flyfi View Post

So...If anyone wants the battery packs/wall charger/car adapter (they all work just fine, never got past the testing phase), I'd be happy to sell it to you for $30 plus actual shipping costs...
I'd be interested in that. I'd be asking for delivery to UK if not too expensive or alternatively you could send to my uncle in North Carolina, how much do you think it is going to be?
post #665 of 739
I checked with the US Postal Service on line- they have a flate rate small box to UK/Northern Ireland for 23.95 USD, with a delivery timeframe of 6-10 business days.

Edit-
Still available...
Edited by Flyfi - 3/19/13 at 10:38pm
post #666 of 739
I am using a media viewer app on my newly acquired Nexus 7 tablet to view / stream / transfer media from my V700's SD card.

is there a high speed reader out there that is recommended?

The reason I ask is, although I can get the video images to stream to the Nexus tablet, there is a "freeze" of a couple of seconds after every 4 or 5 seconds of footage. I was wondering if this was anything to do with the card reader not being able to transfer the media at the same rate as the card is writing (I use high speed class 10 SD Cards)

I just have a cheap run of the mill USB type device that has a slot in the side for the card.

I could just transfer the vid to the Nexus and delete after viewing etc, but the whole idea is to view video (and photo's from my stills camera) just to see if all is OK etc.

Does anyone use these card readers, and if so, any recommendations for a good quality one that will match the card?

Any thoughts?

Cheers


Nigel
post #667 of 739
I would take the video and put it inside the Nexus 7 just to see if the video playback quality is the same. If it is, then it's not the card reader that's giving you an issue. Do you have any other programs running at the same time on your Nexus? If you are, close them and see if the playback issues are the same. Try updating your video player or maybe look for another one. You never know if your AVCHD files are too much for the Nexus 7 especially 1080 60p to be playing 100% smoothly.

As for the card reader, even if the Nexus is USB 2.0 complaint, I'd probably get USB 3.0 just for the heck of it.

After doing some research just now, here's one player you might want to install if your not already on your Nexus 7.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mxtech.videoplayer.ad&feature=apps_topselling_free#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLG51bGwsImNvbS5teHRlY2gudmlkZW9wbGF5ZXIuYWQiXQ..
Edited by Paulo Teixeira - 3/21/13 at 3:36pm
post #668 of 739
I've seem some tests measuring about 20 Mbit/s via a SanDisk reader, although I don't remember a model.

Absence of SD card slot was one of the reasons I did not buy the N7.

In any case, why would one want to play raw unedited clips on a tablet?
post #669 of 739
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Originally Posted by Paulo Teixeira View Post

I would take the video and put it inside the Nexus 7 just to see if the video playback quality is the same. If it is, then it's not the card reader that's giving you an issue. Do you have any other programs running at the same time on your Nexus? If you are, close them and see if the playback issues are the same. Try updating your video player or maybe look for another one. You never know if your AVCHD files are too much for the Nexus 7 especially 1080 60p to be playing 100% smoothly.

As for the card reader, even if the Nexus is USB 2.0 complaint, I'd probably get USB 3.0 just for the heck of it.

After doing some research just now, here's one player you might want to install if your not already on your Nexus 7.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mxtech.videoplayer.ad&feature=apps_topselling_free#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLG51bGwsImNvbS5teHRlY2gudmlkZW9wbGF5ZXIuYWQiXQ..

Many thanks Paulo - I followed your link and that is the program i am using for the Nexus. It is supposed to be the best and will play anything you throw at it apparently!

I asked most of the questions you raised with the guy at the store and others who own the Nexus. The answer is, Nexus 7 with it's quad core processor can handle HD video (50pps here in UK) without any issue. I have already transferred exact same quality video to the Nexus and it plays fine. That is why I thought it must be the reader.

Thanks again

Nigel
post #670 of 739
Hey guys,

I purchased this camcorder a couple of months ago based on impressions I read in this thread.

I've been using it for a while now and I just realized something was bothering me:
is it just me or there is no way to temporarily suspend (pause) a recording and resume it a while later? right now if I do this, it'll create two separate video files instead of just one.
In the end this means I am limited to continuous recordings, or alternatively I have to join video files on the computer which is far from convenient.

my parents used to own an analog camcorder, you could just put the recording on hold, then resume later.
why is this seemingly not possible with digital camcorders?

or maybe I am just missing something obvious?
thanks for the replies!
post #671 of 739
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Originally Posted by Ungermann View Post

I've seem some tests measuring about 20 Mbit/s via a SanDisk reader, although I don't remember a model.

Absence of SD card slot was one of the reasons I did not buy the N7.

In any case, why would one want to play raw unedited clips on a tablet?

Thanks Ungermann. There is a Sandisk that I have been told about that should do the job - maybe it is the one you are thinking of? http://www.amazon.co.uk/SANDISK-MICROMATE-SD-CARD-RDR/dp/B000WQUHHI

At first, the absence of an SD slot did put me off the Nexus 7, but with the introduction of this App for streaming / copying to the N7 it has opened up everything I wanted to do with it........and it works!!! The N7 is the best 7" tablet on the market and having the built in SD slot would have been the icing on the cake. But now there is the best of both worlds

I take your point about viewing raw unedited video, but one of the reasons why I bought the N7 was to take it on holiday instead of a laptop. I want to view quickly the day's video shoot (and still shots) on a bigger screen than the V700. All the other things such as Skype home, emails, etc etc is so much more convenient than on a bigger heavier laptop. Given the 32gb on board storage I could also transfer some stills and/or videos to free up card space

Thanks for the response

Nigel
post #672 of 739
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Originally Posted by NJM48 View Post

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Originally Posted by Ungermann View Post

I've seem some tests measuring about 20 Mbit/s via a SanDisk reader, although I don't remember a model.

Absence of SD card slot was one of the reasons I did not buy the N7.

In any case, why would one want to play raw unedited clips on a tablet?

Thanks Ungermann. There is a Sandisk that I have been told about that should do the job - maybe it is the one you are thinking of? http://www.amazon.co.uk/SANDISK-MICROMATE-SD-CARD-RDR/dp/B000WQUHHI
Actually, I meant 30 not 20... And did I mean 30 MB/s, not Mb/s? Might be this one: http://www.amazon.com/ImageMate%C2%AE-Multi-Card-USB-2-0-Reader/dp/B001FRA0IE

Aha, check out this link: http://protogtech.com/memory-cards/64gb-transcend-sdxc-class-10-400x-cf-memory-cards/ He tests some cards using the Transcend TS-RDF8K:


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Originally Posted by NJM48 View Post

At first, the absence of an SD slot did put me off the Nexus 7, but with the introduction of this App for streaming / copying to the N7 it has opened up everything I wanted to do with it........and it works!!! The N7 is the best 7" tablet on the market and having the built in SD slot would have been the icing on the cake.
I beg to differ. I was thinking about N7, but it seemed to small for me, kinda claustrophobic, while 10-inch tablets were too large. I've got a 7.7-inch Toshiba Excite and I love it. This is the only Android tablet that can be compared to iPad Mini, but unlike the Mini this has higher pixel count (same as on the N7).
Edited by Ungermann - 3/22/13 at 9:39am
post #673 of 739
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Originally Posted by Cned View Post

Hey guys,

I purchased this camcorder a couple of months ago based on impressions I read in this thread.

I've been using it for a while now and I just realized something was bothering me:
is it just me or there is no way to temporarily suspend (pause) a recording and resume it a while later? right now if I do this, it'll create two separate video files instead of just one.
In the end this means I am limited to continuous recordings, or alternatively I have to join video files on the computer which is far from convenient.

my parents used to own an analog camcorder, you could just put the recording on hold, then resume later.
why is this seemingly not possible with digital camcorders?

or maybe I am just missing something obvious?
thanks for the replies!

This is not an issue with your particular camcorder. All the newer camcorders make separate files, including Sony, Canon...
FWIR, Samsung makes camcorders that will continue on into the same file, although they will be lower quality mov files.

As far as joining the files, it's really just a matter of a few clicks. (First world problems?) If it's about waiting for them to join, initiate it before you go to sleep at night.

Consider that, just a short time ago when everyone was using miniDV tapes, you had to connect the camera to a firewire card on your computer and capture the tape in real time. That's way more inconvenient.

The point is, things are better than they were and continue to progress.
post #674 of 739
Alright thanks mate!
I just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something.
Now I know. Yeah, as you said, it's not such a big deal.
Thanks AVSForum, nice community here!
post #675 of 739
I've really enjoyed reading through this mammoth thread!

I got a HC-V700 a couple of weeks ago and am trying to find a source for a reliable 3rd party battery here in the UK. It seems impossible to source Wasabi batteries in the UK - the only option is to pay high postage costs and get the battery shipped from the US.

Can any UK owners confirm a manufacturer or seller of batteries that will actually work with the HC-V700? I've bought two so far - one wouldn't even power up the camcorder, and the other gave me the standard Panasonic message that the battery could not be used.

One of the batteries is unbranded. It's just called "BATTERY PACK FOR PANASONIC VW-VBK180". I looks like this (at the bottom): http://www.petitephoto.co.uk/ebay/images/CA/4135/4.jpg. The other (that gave me the error message) is an "ORIGINAL OTB For VBK360".

Ideally I'd like a high-capacity battery, but at this point the priority is just one that works.
post #676 of 739
Hi

I got mine from Amazon.co.uk have a look - for the battery http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B006YQF6WG/ref=oh_details_o03_s00_i01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

and here for the charger http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0042AUVLC/ref=oh_details_o03_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

The charger charges the Panasonic battery also and the second battery works fine in the V700 (even shows charge left on screen)

£13.97 for the battery and £8.95 for the charger kit

Nigel
post #677 of 739
Has anyone come up with a good infrared light for the 700 yet?
post #678 of 739
Hi,

I've looked everywhere in my V700 - but where do you enable/disable the intelligent contrast control?

Also, on the main LCD display when you touch the touchscreen, it shows an icon with wavy lines and a diagonal line running through it. What does this mean? And how do I change it if I need to?

Thanks,
--Jatinder
post #679 of 739
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Originally Posted by jatindersangha View Post

Hi,

I've looked everywhere in my V700 - but where do you enable/disable the intelligent contrast control?

Also, on the main LCD display when you touch the touchscreen, it shows an icon with wavy lines and a diagonal line running through it. What does this mean? And how do I change it if I need to?

__________

The wavy icon with slash represents the wind noise canceler for the built-in microphone. [menu]>record setup>wind noise canceler>on

The intelligent contrast control only works in manual mode. After selecting manual mode via the [iA/manual button] go to [menu]>record setup>screen 4/8> intelligent contrast control [on/off].
post #680 of 739
Today was the first warm, sunny day we've had since I bought the camcorder last Winter. I took advantage of the opportunity to take it with me and give it a workout.

https://vimeo.com/64769233
post #681 of 739
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Today was the first warm, sunny day we've had since I bought the camcorder last Winter. I took advantage of the opportunity to take it with me and give it a workout.

https://vimeo.com/64769233
What happened from 1:28 to 1:44 - is this iFrame? Looks horrible. Did you use stabilization in post? At 1:45-1:46 one can see the car "jumping" on its wheels. Or is the CMOS sensor on the camera that bad?
post #682 of 739
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Originally Posted by Ungermann View Post

What happened from 1:28 to 1:44 - is this iFrame? Looks horrible. Did you use stabilization in post? At 1:45-1:46 one can see the car "jumping" on its wheels. Or is the CMOS sensor on the camera that bad?

I think that this is just Vimeo. Notorious for being a bit jumpy sometimes...if your connection is spot on then it is OK. This worked fine for me all the way through.
Not sure that a car wash is the best subject though smile.gif
post #683 of 739
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Originally Posted by NJM48 View Post

Hi

I got mine from Amazon.co.uk have a look - for the battery http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B006YQF6WG/ref=oh_details_o03_s00_i01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

and here for the charger http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0042AUVLC/ref=oh_details_o03_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

The charger charges the Panasonic battery also and the second battery works fine in the V700 (even shows charge left on screen)

£13.97 for the battery and £8.95 for the charger kit

Nigel

Thanks so much Nigel - will give these a go. I hope to be 4th time lucky at this point!
post #684 of 739
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Originally Posted by Ungermann View Post

What happened from 1:28 to 1:44 - is this iFrame? Looks horrible. Did you use stabilization in post? At 1:45-1:46 one can see the car "jumping" on its wheels. Or is the CMOS sensor on the camera that bad?

I just looked at the segments you noted but did not see any jumping. I have in the past noted such jumping if my computer is busy doing some other task at the time that I'm playing a video.
post #685 of 739
I had a fun weekend recording some drag racing this weekend, ended up using the camera on a tripod after running around with it being hand held most of the day.

Completely forgot about the IS, made working the camera on the pod a bit interesting. As I pan up the IS tries to compensate for the pan, It didnt hit me until that night what was going on, I thought it was the tripod head wandering a bit more past the stops I made. Made me LOL at myself for not turning it off

As an example :

So this is at night with the Drag Strips light on, I am 5 stories up on top of the tower ( Building is 4 levels and the track is 1 level below the first level of the tower )

Picked up sound great and I was very happy with the image. Something else I forgot was to turn the speed down from 60 to 30 for these shots. Still learning working with the camera.

-R
post #686 of 739
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Originally Posted by Rock Flint View Post

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Originally Posted by Ungermann View Post

What happened from 1:28 to 1:44 - is this iFrame? Looks horrible. Did you use stabilization in post? At 1:45-1:46 one can see the car "jumping" on its wheels. Or is the CMOS sensor on the camera that bad?

I just looked at the segments you noted but did not see any jumping. I have in the past noted such jumping if my computer is busy doing some other task at the time that I'm playing a video.
Right, "jumping" was caused by someone sitting in the car :-) but the segment from 1:28 to 1:44, from one dissolve to another, looks considerably worse than other parts of video. Something is wrong here, or this is an iFrame segment.
post #687 of 739
Hi everyone,

I am a new V700 owner of an Australian PAL version and lack an understanding about things technological so bear with me if I pose some stupid questions.

1. Is the NTSC/PAL issue only relevant with regards to playing videos through TV? I am exploring the idea of buying a DSLR camera off ebay but it would be NTSC. Would I have issues if I wanted to combine video recorded on the PAL V700 with video recorded on the DSLR (and put the video on a DVD for playing)? And if this would work, would the video only then work through a tv that supports both PAL and NTSC??

2. I am looking into getting a lens hood for the camera. I understand I will need an adaptor to avoid vignetting. If I went to a camera store to test out different lens hoods/adaptors, would I know if vignetting is occurring simply by looking at the LCD screen (or is it only later when you put the videos on the computer that the vignetting might come into view)?

3. Is the vignetting issue only caused by lens hoods, or is it also caused by filters used without an adaptor?

Thanks in advance!!

Mark
post #688 of 739
budgesmark, NTSC is dead. PAL lives on. Both are analog standards, PAL being just a color standard. Digital video retains some features of its analog progenitors, such as 60 Hz (or 60 * 1000/1001 Hz ) image rate for "NTSC" and 50 Hz for "PAL". If you want to combine sources with different frame rate you will lose quality. How noticeable the loss will be depends on the material and on the editing app.You may see frame skipping, jerking or ghosting.

If you are going to combine 25p and 24p you may slow down one or speed up another to match frame rates. This is one of the reasons 24p is still used for movies intended for worldwide distribution.

Panasonic camcorders display 100% of the recorded image on the screen, so you should be able to evaluate it. Turn the OIS on and quickly tilt and pan the camera to see whether the stabilizer affects vignetting.
post #689 of 739
Hi Ungermann. Thanks for that information and the quick reply! Definitely helps me with my decision-making. Thanks.
post #690 of 739
Dear all,

maybe someone here knows: can this camera supply Live Output Monitoring (preferably, when it is just on, i.e. NOT actively recording) via the AV-cable to the Video (Composite, not component) output ?
I have found, it can do so over hdmi, but that's not what I would need.

Thanks & all the best,
Arie

[see my own reply in the next post pls.]
Edited by aaintveld - 5/17/13 at 9:09am
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