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post #721 of 739
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Originally Posted by bing51 View Post

I just ordered the ePhoto L-bracket mount (WSA613) . It seems that I'll be able to hold the camcorder with both hands. The only thing is that apparently the L-bracket may not allow the screen to open all the way.


The pistol grip doesn't provide very much stability for me. Maybe it works for you, but somehow it's harder for me to keep the camera stable with the pistol grip than without anything.

However, the bracket works well. It doesn't allow for the screen to flip out all the way. So I ended up getting a second bracket, chopping off the bottom portion (the horizontal bar), drilling a hole and tapping it for camera screw thread (1/4-20, if I remember correctly). Then you can use the screw that comes with the bracket to secure the extension piece. This way you have enough room to open the screen fully.


Edited by bing51 - 12/21/13 at 6:21am
post #722 of 739
WIDE-ANGLE CONVERSION LENS!

Does anyone have the VW-W4907H? (Middle of the page for the V700 page at Panasonic; or the listing at B&H with price). I saw some Youtube reviews/demos, and it's a little hard to see how much barrel distortion it adds. At the wide end, even without an attachment lens, the V700 already has some barrel distortion.

At $200, it seems a little expensive for V700. Amazon seems to have some very cheap alternatives, starting at $10. These seem designed for photo cameras. I am guessing they also work for the V700, with the right step-up/down ring. Has anyone tried any of these?

EDIT: On Amazone and Youtube you can find reviews of the various el cheapo wide-angle conversion lenses. Just search for "0.45x conversion lens." There is often visible distortion and loss of sharpness around the edges. The lenses often come with a macro attachment, and some figured out that you can take it out for an even bigger wide angle, which makes the barrel distortion even worse. Example: this one from Amazon.
Edited by bing51 - 12/26/13 at 1:17pm
post #723 of 739
I don't remember the exact part number, but bought the Panasonic version when my SDT750 was new. I needed it for shooting fishing trips in small boats and birthday parties in small rooms. Both are situations where I could not get far enough back to frame the subjects the way I wanted. It works well for both. Whatever distortion is created, if any, I don't notice it. If I looked hard enough, I might find it.
post #724 of 739
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Originally Posted by bsprague View Post

my SDT750

Just looked this up -- is it the 3D camcorder? That's a really nifty idea. Did you use this for friends/family videos, and if so, how did the sharing go? I am guessing everyone needs to wear 3D glasses. That might make home screening less spontaneous, perhaps? Or maybe it didn't have any impact at all. Is it possible to convert 3D to 2D?

It seems you can also get a 3D attachment for the V700. Has anyone tried this?
post #725 of 739
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Originally Posted by bing51 View Post

Just looked this up -- is it the 3D camcorder? That's a really nifty idea. Did you use this for friends/family videos, and if so, how did the sharing go? I am guessing everyone needs to wear 3D glasses. That might make home screening less spontaneous, perhaps? Or maybe it didn't have any impact at all. Is it possible to convert 3D to 2D?

It seems you can also get a 3D attachment for the V700. Has anyone tried this?

Back a couple years ago the TM900 was the top of the consumer line. Panasonic and all the others were pushing 3D TV. It was hard to get a new top end TV without 3D. The sales people would give you the glasses to close the deal. I bought a Sony 55" and was given 4 sets of glasses the were supposed to sell for $100 each!

About the same time, Panasonic put together a 3D camcorder kit. As near as I can tell it was a TM900 with a different label and the kit included a 3D lens. 3D was such a despised dud in the market place they had to get rid of the SDT750 camera kits by offering deep discounts. From what I read at the time, most sold the lens on ebay and kept the camera as a functional equivalent to the TM900. It was weird, the large sticker that told the world you had a 3D camera peeled off easily.

I suspect that the 3D attachment you are looking at is about the same as I have. It works! Shoot the clips, play them on a 3D TV and watch with the glasses. It is not quite full frame, but close. I've done some fun stuff with my granddaughters. On one vacation trip to Zion NP I did the whole thing in 3D. I accidentally had the IS off and it's pretty hard to watch!

I think I've had more use out of the wide angle lens than the 3D lens.
post #726 of 739
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It was weird, the large sticker that told the world you had a 3D camera peeled off easily.

biggrin.gif You're a funny guy!

Too bad about your Zion NP videos. It's a beautiful place.

I figure the wide angle might be useful. Sometimes you'd get stuck pretty close to the subject. I just don't know that it happens often enough that I'd be justified in paying $200 to have the presumably better lens from Panasonic instead of the $10 cheapie.
post #727 of 739
Hi
What software does everyone use for making DVDs for standard players? I tried makin my first DVD with W7 movie maker and the quality was terrible (footage in1080p or something).
The video DVD was very grainy. I used Sony Vegas years ago, Vegas 6 I think so I am somewhat familiar with those shortcuts.

What is a mid- level software that people like, even the panny included disk, which I haven't tried yet.

Thanks
post #728 of 739
I highly recommend Serif MoviePlus. The current version is X6 but you can get version X5 on sale for $14.99 through January 6 at Serif.com. The software allows unlimited video/audio tracks and has several built in movie themes with titles/credit and music if you don't want to edit on a timeline. Can output to DVD, BluRay, ISO, MPG, etc. Also has a very active user's forum to get help.

tomH
post #729 of 739
The HD Writer software included with the Panny seems lame, has anyone used the Sony (vegas) Platinum software? I used it back in version 6 and I am somewhat familiar with it.
post #730 of 739
UPDATE ON WIDE-ANGLE CONVERSION LENS!
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Originally Posted by bing51 View Post

Does anyone have the VW-W4907H? (Middle of the page for the V700 page at Panasonic; or the listing at B&H with price). I saw some Youtube reviews/demos, and it's a little hard to see how much barrel distortion it adds. At the wide end, even without an attachment lens, the V700 already has some barrel distortion.

At $200, it seems a little expensive for V700. Amazon seems to have some very cheap alternatives, starting at $10. These seem designed for photo cameras. I am guessing they also work for the V700, with the right step-up/down ring. Has anyone tried any of these?

EDIT: On Amazone and Youtube you can find reviews of the various el cheapo wide-angle conversion lenses. Just search for "0.45x conversion lens." There is often visible distortion and loss of sharpness around the edges. The lenses often come with a macro attachment, and some figured out that you can take it out for an even bigger wide angle, which makes the barrel distortion even worse. Example: this one from Amazon.

I got the Neewer wide-angle conversion lens, made by "Japan Optics." For around $10, I figure what do I have to lose. You can find product reviews on Amazon and on Youtube. So let me just add a few observations applicable to us V700 owners.

You need a 46mm-58mm step up ring to mount the lens. Now here's a problem. You will get vignetting at the widest angle. You see more with the conversion lens than without, even with the substantial vignetting. If you don't want vignetting, you can zoom in a little (around 2x). However, you end up being barely a little wider than without the conversion lens, and you get more barrel distortion. So it's your choice in compromise. To me, I'd use the Neewer for situations where I really just need to get everything in the frame, accepting vignetting and barrel distortion as a cost. (The distortion is noticeable, but not terrible. At the widest angle, even without the wide-angle conversion lens, there is already a little distortion.)

So, if you really need a wide-angle without vignetting, you just have to fork over the cash for the Panasonic conversion lens.

Back to the Neewer. The conversion lens has two parts -- the wide-angle and the macro. Normally the two are screwed together. You can take them apart and use the macro, which works reasonably well. You can zoom in for even greater magnification.

If you get a 58mm male-to-male ring in addition to the step up ring, you can attach just the wide-angle part to the camcorder. Without the macro attached to the wide-angle, you get an even wider field of view. However, the vignetting is even worse, and you start to get a fisheye view. I wouldn't bother getting a lens hood for the Neewer. Without the macro, you basically need a matte box for such an extreme wide angle.

Who is Japan Optics and where is their factory? Who knows? I couldn't find any "made in x" label, not that the place or origin means anything when it comes to a $10 lens. It seems people think it's a knock-off of a Zeikos design. Upon receiving the goods, I had to clean up the threads a bit. The lenses were clean.

If there is interest, I can update with some pictures.

PS. It seems that you can focus from 1x to 10x zoom, but not beyond. Of course, if you're already using a wide-angle filter, you probably don't need zoom.
Edited by bing51 - 1/16/14 at 5:11pm
post #731 of 739
Broken 700M help. Out of the blue my video camera sounds as if there is a plastic piece loose inside the camera :-(.

A light shake and it sounds like something bouncing around. It's not a port cover, battery, etc. Everything seems to be working ok.
It's greater than 90 days but less than a year old. Should I investigate this and bring it to service center or juts deal with it and wait until something stops working? The rattle is very obvious and I baby my camera so that's why it is upsetting.

Thoughts?
post #732 of 739
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Originally Posted by hvc700mbuyer View Post


Thoughts?
Two:

It would not surprise me if the rattle goes away with the power on. If it still rattles with the power on, then it might be a loose part.

Most gear has a 1 year warranty. If you bought it with a credit card like a Visa, buried in the fine print of the credit card contract is that they "double" the manufacturers warranty. I had a Sony fixed that way when it was 14 months old. Visa had me send the camera to Sony, pay or the repair myself and then sent me a check for the amount on the invoice.
post #733 of 739
Ok, sure enough the rattle goes away considerably with the power on! Thanks. It goes from a clunk-clunk to a small click-click in my best descriptive language.

Why is this? I've never heard of such a thing...what is going on power on vs power off...=just so I can understand.

It seems like quite the hassle to get it checked out...so if everything seems to be working...in your opinion...don't worry about it or still get it checked out?

Thanks!
post #734 of 739
Something in the camera goes from a relaxed, loose state when the power is off to a tensioned, tight state with the power on. My blind guess is that it is a mechanical component of the stabilization or focus systems. If it shoots good video, let it be!

Unfortunately, the state of consumer electronics, is that everything will need replacement because it will break. The only answer is a savings account!
post #735 of 739
May I then ask.....does anyone else's 700 do this?
post #736 of 739
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Originally Posted by hvc700mbuyer View Post

May I then ask.....does anyone else's 700 do this?

Yes, this is normal. It's the image stabilizaton mechanizim. The lens moves/floats in a controlled manner when power is on but is released when power is off. My v700 does this as well as a family members.
post #737 of 739
Thank-you for the quick response! :-)
post #738 of 739
I have the v700m and my LCD screen was cracked. It still works fine but I cannot seem to locate a replacement anywhere. Does anyone know where I can find one?

Thanks, Matt
post #739 of 739

After two happy years with my 700 I have recently upgraded to the 750 (2014 model) Again a brilliant camera. I still use the 700 in two camera shoots and there is no noticeable difference in quality when shots from both cameras are rendered together.

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