The Official Panasonic HC-V700 Owners Thread - Page 4

Originally Posted by mmoskon

My v700 arrived today but I still don't have sd card so I cannot properly test it, though first impressions are really good.
I'm trying to find answer in manual but without success, does anyone know what is that small icon in the upper right corner of the screen bellow ois icon? It looks like small crossed waves?

Originally Posted by Kayook

It's the Wind noise canceler icon shown on page 139 in the manual. Hope you get an SD card soon.

Originally Posted by pitdaddy

I'm set to 1080p. Maybe I'm being to nit picky. If I could put a small clip on YouTube it would show what I am talking about. Suppose you are zooming in on a bird in a tree. When slowly zooming in the object will most likely stay in focus. It just isn't 'crisp'. Once I stop everything gets perfectly crisp. Every feather on the bird, every leaf in the tree, etc.. Tell me I'm being to picky.

Originally Posted by godfather927

Finally got to try mine out last night and i noticed the exact same thing. When panning everything would look slightly blurred, but once i stopped, everything was super sharp and every detail was crystal clear. I begin panning again and things get slightly blurry again until i stop. I'm guessing this is "normal" and not uncommon for single chip camcorders like this. The display might even be partly to blame in some cases (pixel response time, same-and-hold display types, etc.)

I was hoping the motion would appear smoother in 1080/60p so that i can utilize some slow mo effects in post, but i havent gotten that far yet to confirm how it would look. Has anyone messed with the manual settings (e.g. shutter speeds) to capture some shots for a decent slow mo effect?

Originally Posted by Philip_L

Hi



There are several reasons pans are not sharp even with 1080/60p, for one, if you were waving a camera around and took a photograph would you expect it to be sharp? Typically we do everything we can to hold a camera steady to stop blurring, yet some how think a video camera is immune to the same problem A video camera is just a stills camera taking 60 photographs a second, all the same caveats apply.

If you up the shutter speed as high as you can, given enough light that is, this will help "freeze" each picture even when the camera is panning, the same trick used in ordinary photography.

Even then, the compression system, and the LCD display you play it back all contribute to motion burring, most noticeably with camera pans, and due to the high resolution, the drop in resolution is all the more obvious. If you stood on the same spot and don't move your eyes and turn in a circle it's blurry too!

All the same issues are seen on broadcast TV and films, except they will go to great lengths to avoid the problem in the first place. Often the static scenes will have a low pass filter to remove some detail so you don't notice the drop in detail as the camera pans, and rather than panning on the spot to follow an actor or subject, the camera will roll along a track on a dolly.

Regards

Phil

Originally Posted by godfather927

Finally got to try mine out last night and i noticed the exact same thing. When panning everything would look slightly blurred, but once i stopped, everything was super sharp and every detail was crystal clear. I begin panning again and things get slightly blurry again until i stop. I'm guessing this is "normal" and not uncommon for single chip camcorders like this. The display might even be partly to blame in some cases (pixel response time, same-and-hold display types, etc.)

I was hoping the motion would appear smoother in 1080/60p so that i can utilize some slow mo effects in post, but i havent gotten that far yet to confirm how it would look. Has anyone messed with the manual settings (e.g. shutter speeds) to capture some shots for a decent slow mo effect?

Originally Posted by godfather927

Phil, the panning I was referring to was very steady and also very slow just as pitdaddy reiterated in his earlier posts. I'm not sure where you got the impression otherwise. The same effect can be seen while zooming on a tripod at the slowest possible speed (which on this camera is the slowest ive ever seen.)

As i already stated, i also found this to be common and pointed out that the display device may contribute to this effect as well. If films and TV broadcasts somehow "degrade" their static shots to make the loss of detail when panning less pronounced, then that certainly makes sense, but I also believe the quality and types of cameras have an impact as well. After all, we are still talking about a sub $500 consumer camcorder and not professional equipment.

As for adjustments in shutter speed, so far I've found it a bit difficult to strike the proper balance so that the blurring is reduced but while also avoiding the strobing associated with quicker shorter speeds.

Originally Posted by dmikester1

One more question, can anyone recommend a good case for this camcorder? Want something small but would protect it from a good drop.

Originally Posted by Philip_L

Hi



Any movement is movement regardless of speed. You need to use a manual shutter speed of at least 1/250th sec to have a chance of each individual frame not being blur (or use a sports mode if no manual settings which forces the fastest shutter speed). Zooming is the same, it's movement.

With a digital camera, perform the same slow pan and take a photograph with shutter speeds less than 1/250th of a second and see if it is sharp.

A video camera is just a stills camera taking 60 photographs a second, if you have movement, or movement of the camera, each of those 60 photographs a second will be blurred unless you have a high shutter speed.

To check where the problem is, freeze frame your video. If it freezes and gives you a nice clear picture, then shutter speed was high enough to give you a sharp image during the pan and the compression system is coping with it, so the blurring problem is on the display device. Watching on LCD displays and tracking movement with our eyes will see it blurring due to the hold up time of LCD, our eyes cause the blurring as we track them across a series of static images shown one after the other. 120Hz LCD TVs help avoid this as they create intermediate images so each image is displayed for less time, sort of a shutter speed in reverse.

If the freeze is blurry then either the shutter speed was too slow to freeze the action or the compression system isn't coping, or a combination of both. Also note with H264 when it can't cope with a busy scene it doesn't go blocky like MPEG2, it goes blurry instead as it has deblocking algorithms to smudge out the edges of the blocks.

Hope that helps.

Regards

PHil

Originally Posted by vacuumes5 


You have a point there.

Anyway, I think i found the answer on youtube.

Crazy fellow running around bashing his DSLR lens just to prove that a filter actually protects it.

Opps. Can't post the link.

You can search in youtube using these keywords :

UV Filter vs No UV Filter - DigitalRev TV Test

Originally Posted by jazztalker 


I'm going to bring this question back up now that maybe a few more people have this thing. The case I have, while good for the camera, extra batteries and memory card and maybe a filter, won't hold the cables/chargers that I need if I want to keep everything together.


Suggestions?

Originally Posted by hvc700mbuyer 

There is a rebate expiring in a few days...so I went for it. I have never spent so much for a camera! I got the wasabi spare batteries, and a 32gb 10 class excel card or something.
All these extras added almost another $100 :-( I got a ultraviolet lens filter solely for lens protection.
Great resource!
PS I got the 700M :-)

Originally Posted by vladojko 

...can someone tell me what really i would gain by using 1080p as i really can not spot almost any difference between 1080p and 1080i movies?

Originally Posted by rudicher 

Hi there,
I am looking at purchasing the V700 camcorder. My old Canon SD camcorder is dead.
Question: can this camcorder record from an AV source? e.g. does it have an input jack so I can play my VHS tapes from a video player and have it connected to the V700 via RCA leads?
I think from the manual, that it can't?
If not, is there a way I can use this camcorder to record from VHS player?
Thanks,
Andrew

Originally Posted by V-wiz 

So im in the market for a HD camera, i take it this is a good camcoreder? if i get from amazon i wont have to pay tax right? what else will i need? 32BG memory card enough? what else is needed for this cam? a hood? Thanks for all the help..

Originally Posted by eknigmah 

Hello all,
I purchased a HC-V700 a couple of weeks ago to replace my aging Sony DCR-TRV480. I like the Sony but wanted to step into the digital age. I have a question about the recording limits of the V700. I made one recording that totals aprox. 40 minutes in 1080/60p mode using a SanDisk Ultra SDXC 64GB class 6 card. Instead of one file, I have two. The first file is 4.2GBs and ends at just over the 22 minute mark. The second file contains the remaining 17 minutes. Can someone tell me why the recording was divided into two parts? Is there a 4 gig limit or have I overlooked a setting somewhere?
Thx