Originally Posted by sheshechic I think you're biased and highly susceptible to Samsung's hype.
The video was not unbiased and why should it be? It was sales hype for their employees, to teach them how to promote active shutter. I found it to be equally stupid and insulting. I thought that their argument regarding the lines in a passive panel was ridiculous considering that current filters have louvers. It just doesn't matter.
Either way, those are last year's videos. Although active shutter has improved, it has not eliminated any of the negative aspects. And viewing angle is not as bad as you and Samsung would like people to believe. Samsung's argument was that there's a problem if you want to lie down. lol Okay.
That's like saying don't stand up while watching louvered panels because it will darken.
Personally, I tend to believe tech reviews from independent sources before manufacturers, and with this tech, reviews where 3D evaluation was the main purpose, as well as owner reviews carry much more weight with me. With that said, I find the following for a Sept 2011 piece interesting: "To begin with, active 3D
glasses are uncomfortable, cumbersome, and heavy — up to 2.2 ounces (62 grams) in the case of Sony’s active glasses, compared to 0.5 ounces (14 grams) for passive glasses. Active glasses and TV sets also provide incredibly poor viewing angles: unless you are sitting within a few degrees of center and with almost zero horizontal (head) tilt, the contrast, brightness, and image quality plummet. Passive glasses (and TVs), in comparison, are excellent with any head tilt angle, and with most realistic (greater than 30-degrees-from-center) viewing angles." (For those who love charts one is included.)http://www.extremetech.com/electroni...-passive-3d-tv
As I said, I will check off angle viewing of the passive for myself and I will check to ensure that it is the 3D that is the limitation and not the panel (as is often the problem with LCD).
I sound biased towards Samsung and give into their hype? RIIIIGGGGHT...I guess that's why I returned my Samsung 3DTV now own a Panny Plasma GT50 that only offers active shutter as every 3D plasma does, so yeah I gave into hype.
There's no point in going any further with you because you seem a bit ignorant to the fact and I'm not being insulting, I'm seeing that exactly from your post. I also like how you ignored my post about the fact that most every manufacturer uses Active Shutter. What benefit would they have to ignore passive if it was clearly the winner?
Samsung's video was spot on and was not a sales video. The louver filter has nothing to do with the discussion. The passive filter coupled with polarized glasses produces the 3D effect and the technology is limited.
I also like the fact that you conveniently ignored ALL other parts of the video and only quoted what you wanted to win your argument. The reason why Samsung brought up the issue of lying down is because LG made a point of it about the Active Shutter glasses turning dark when people lie down to watch TV.
Funny part is LG (as well as you) decided to hold back on mentioning the real truth that when you lie down on your side the passive glasses turn red and the 3D gets distorted to the point of being unusable.
This argument is becoming a waste of my time, just accept the fact that passive 3D is not the preferred technology and very few manufacturers care to implement it.