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post #1561 of 9029
Wow, there's a lot of people in the AVforums complaining about IR & banding on all 3 models. I've had mine on THX Cinema since I got it on Saturday and pixel orbiter is off in that mode. I must've really lucked out since I see no issues at all with my 60GT50. And trust me, I look for faults lol
I wonder if things happen during transportation? Mine was a single order from the warehouse by my friend. I then went to his store & took it home myself with my uncle's SUV. I laid it flat but used a thick comforter to hold it in place.
Anyways, I feel bad cause I know how annoying it is to be switching out TV's.
post #1562 of 9029
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Originally Posted by TIME2PLAYDAGAME View Post

Wow, there's a lot of people in the AVforums complaining about IR & banding on all 3 models.

I think you may be over estimating the number of unhappy owners.
post #1563 of 9029
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Originally Posted by TIME2PLAYDAGAME View Post

Wow, there's a lot of people in the AVforums complaining about IR & banding on all 3 models. I've had mine on THX Cinema since I got it on Saturday and pixel orbiter is off in that mode. I must've really lucked out since I see no issues at all with my 60GT50. And trust me, I look for faults lol
I wonder if things happen during transportation? Mine was a single order from the warehouse by my friend. I then went to his store & took it home myself with my uncle's SUV. I laid it flat but used a thick comforter to hold it in place.
Anyways, I feel bad cause I know how annoying it is to be switching out TV's.

I've been abusing my VT50 pretty hard (HOURS of calibration windows and menus) and I've yet to detect any IR. I did detect some minor line bleed, but that was just in a single menu, and I haven't seen it since.

They may be detecting DSE, which all 3 models DO have, because of the Kuro-like filter. It's extremely minor, though a trained eye could pick it up in calibration slides.
post #1564 of 9029
[quote=TIME2PLAYDAGAME;22073742]Wow, there's a lot of people in the AVforums complaining about IR & banding on all 3 models.

I can't speak for other models but for the GT it hasn't been a problem and most people tend to exaggerate. I watch movies with black bars, game, and watched tons of channels with logos and never had IR or banding.
post #1565 of 9029
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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

I think you may be over estimating the number of unhappy owners.

What I mean is, there seems to be a lot of talk about IR & banding over there...compared to these forums.
post #1566 of 9029
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Originally Posted by TIME2PLAYDAGAME View Post

What I mean is, there seems to be a lot of talk about IR & banding over there...compared to these forums.

I'm sorry. I didn't catch that you were referring to the forum in England.
post #1567 of 9029
Anyone having problems with there glasses loosing sync, mine kept loosing sync so I put another pair on and it lost sync again. My wife was sitting right next to me and hers where fine so I changed seats and it didint happen again.... I'm only like 9 feet away from the tv.
post #1568 of 9029
60gt50 it was delivered one week ago and stickered as made in april 2012.
not one issue that i can see or hear.

what i don't understand is why one would want it calibrated. seems like a waste of money to me. with all the differences in studio lighting, video feeds and the way they are broadcast, especially in sd, it seems to me its best to adjust what looks good from a true hd video. your eye is the best judge of what looks good to you.

after a few days of tinkering in custom mode bring the color down to 30 and normal, color space wide, video nr to auto. everything else in custom is default. i kept coming back to those settings after a few days of tinkering and to me look best especially in true hd programming/bluray.
post #1569 of 9029
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Originally Posted by Tempest261 View Post

I've been abusing my VT50 pretty hard (HOURS of calibration windows and menus) and I've yet to detect any IR. I did detect some minor line bleed, but that was just in a single menu, and I haven't seen it since.

They may be detecting DSE, which all 3 models DO have, because of the Kuro-like filter. It's extremely minor, though a trained eye could pick it up in calibration slides.

Right out the gate you started "abusing"? lol j/k....You didn't do a break-in or leave it on one of the THX modes? Better question, are you going to post some settings?
post #1570 of 9029
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Originally Posted by pltctytc View Post

60gt50 it was delivered one week ago and stickered as made in april 2012.
not one issue that i can see or hear.

what i don't understand is why one would want it calibrated. seems like a waste of money to me. with all the differences in studio lighting, video feeds and the way they are broadcast, especially in sd, it seems to me its best to adjust what looks good from a true hd video. your eye is the best judge of what looks good to you.

after a few days of tinkering in custom mode bring the color down to 30 and normal, color space wide, video nr to auto. everything else in custom is default. i kept coming back to those settings after a few days of tinkering and to me look best especially in true hd programming/bluray.

After I saw a calibrated set I understood. Different people like different things. Some will actually watch the Vivid mode.
post #1571 of 9029
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Originally Posted by TIME2PLAYDAGAME View Post

Right out the gate you started "abusing"? lol j/k....You didn't do a break-in or leave it on one of the THX modes? Better question, are you going to post some settings?

I did the same with no IR. I did run S-Nice's ST50 slides at night mostly to get the hours up on my set.
There are some settings for the VT in the VT50 Settings thread. You could try them on the GT to see if they work for you. Just ignore the Pro W/B 10 point settings. Does the GT have a 2 point W/B settings?
post #1572 of 9029
Would someone kindly post a link to the elusive "CNET settings"? I've heard them mentioned many times but cannot find a link from here, nor any indication that they have published settings on their website.

Thanks much.
post #1573 of 9029
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Originally Posted by TIME2PLAYDAGAME View Post


Right out the gate you started "abusing"? lol j/k....You didn't do a break-in or leave it on one of the THX modes? Better question, are you going to post some settings?

The "break-in" slides do nothing for preventing IR or calibration. If you're running them for that reason, you're just running up your power bill.
post #1574 of 9029
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Originally Posted by Nethawk View Post

Would someone kindly post a link to the elusive "CNET settings"? I've heard them mentioned many times but cannot find a link from here, nor any indication that they have published settings on their website.

Thanks much.

I'd like to know what settings they're using too, since a review has not been released for the GT50 yet, and that is where you'd find the settings specific for this model.
post #1575 of 9029
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Originally Posted by wmwilker View Post

I did the same with no IR. I did run S-Nice's ST50 slides at night mostly to get the hours up on my set.
There are some settings for the VT in the VT50 Settings thread. You could try them on the GT to see if they work for you. Just ignore the Pro W/B 10 point settings. Does the GT have a 2 point W/B settings?

I believe the specs are exactly the same. Only differences I found were;

GT50:
Infinite Black Pro
24p Cinematic Playback 48hz

VT50:
Infinite Black Ultra
24p Cinematic Playback 96/48hz
ISFccc (Advanced Calibration)

*EDIT* Has anyone tried the settings in FlatpanelsHD review?
post #1576 of 9029
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Originally Posted by TIME2PLAYDAGAME View Post

I believe the specs are exactly the same. Only differences I found were;

GT50:
Infinite Black Pro
24p Cinematic Playback 48hz

VT50:
Infinite Black Ultra
24p Cinematic Playback 96/48hz
ISFccc (Advanced Calibration)

*EDIT* Has anyone tried the settings in FlatpanelsHD review?

I don't believe the GT has the 10 point white balance controls and possibly the CMS controls
post #1577 of 9029
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Originally Posted by lennyp View Post

I was wondering if there are any discrete codes to change the picture mode from say GAME to THX CINEMA? Using macros in my remote to enter menu and arrow over would probably get out of sync, but seems to be my only option right now. Still don't have IP control, but someday ...

Have you found any information on this? I need the same thing. I am using an AV Receiver as my HDMI hub and then only connecting to the ARC port on the TV. I'd like to be able to directly switch to Game from THX Cinema, or whatever, when I switch to my xbox.
post #1578 of 9029
There's definite Xtalk when I watched Hugo on this set. I would arguably say a lil more so than on my previous Samsung UN55D8000. I've read that movies like Hugo & Happy Feet 2 3D are the movies to watch to test your 3D display, so I'm a lil disappointed after reading how well these new Panasonics are with 3D...plasmas in general actually.

Anyone else test these 2 movies? I'm using the official 2012 Panasonic glasses.
post #1579 of 9029
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Originally Posted by TIME2PLAYDAGAME View Post

There's definite Xtalk when I watched Hugo on this set. I would arguably say a lil more so than on my previous Samsung UN55D8000. I've read that movies like Hugo & Happy Feet 2 3D are the movies to watch to test your 3D display, so I'm a lil disappointed after reading how well these new Panasonics are with 3D...plasmas in general actually.

Anyone else test these 2 movies? I'm using the official 2012 Panasonic glasses.

Interesting, I have a 2012 Panasonic TV and the 2012 glasses. Hugo in 3D works very well on my set. I saw a very small amount of crosstalk but only few times throughout that long movie.
What disappointments are you hearing about plasmas in general?
post #1580 of 9029
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Originally Posted by vidya46 View Post

The price dropped for 55gt50 significantly today on amazon ..just couldn't resist and ordered one or June 5. Delivery...
Now have to convince my wife that there will NOT be any price drops like this till this year end..even during the holidays.))

I also ordered a 55GT50 today from Amazon for a great price, and I got an even better deal after they price matched Paul's TV. Now I have to convince my wife that this will be the last HDTV upgrade for a while (she's not that fond of me changing TVs every 3-4 years).
post #1581 of 9029
I recently bought a 60GT50 from Amazon. My wife and I have been disappointed with the presets, THX or otherwise, regardless of how I adjust the basic, advanced, or pro settings. The Warm2 setting, as used by D-Nice and CNET for the ST50, gives my GT50 an especially unnatural greenish cast. Tint adjustments introduce other problems. This is not as evident in Warm1, but things are still not quite right.

Presently I have just 20 hours on the set, so its too early to think about a professional calibration. In the meantime, I would like to try tweaking the RGB balance settings in the Custom mode to get a more accurate picture.

My questions are:

Do the "W/B High" and "W/B Low" settings in the Custom mode primarily affect the RGB balance at the high and low IRE levels, respectively (say at 80% and 20% IRE)?

As the phosphors age, is there a tendency for Panasonic's RGB balance to improve even with the preset modes? That is, has Panasonic presciently set it up so that the initial RGB imbalance will tend to self-correct after a few hundred hours?

Thanks for any help you can provide.
post #1582 of 9029
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Originally Posted by jstreet View Post

I recently bought a 60GT50 from Amazon. My wife and I have been disappointed with the presets, THX or otherwise, regardless of how I adjust the basic, advanced, or pro settings. The Warm2 setting, as used by D-Nice and CNET for the ST50, gives my GT50 an especially unnatural greenish cast. Tint adjustments introduce other problems. This is not as evident in Warm1, but things are still not quite right.

Presently I have just 20 hours on the set, so its too early to think about a professional calibration. In the meantime, I would like to try tweaking the RGB balance settings in the Custom mode to get a more accurate picture.

My questions are:

Do the "W/B High" and "W/B Low" settings in the Custom mode primarily affect the RGB balance at the high and low IRE levels, respectively (say at 80% and 20% IRE)?

As the phosphors age, is there a tendency for Panasonic's RGB balance to improve even with the preset modes? That is, has Panasonic presciently set it up so that the initial RGB imbalance will tend to self-correct after a few hundred hours?

Thanks for any help you can provide.


At least with the ST50, I found that the overall picture quality improved tremendously after 160 or so hours. I didn't use slides or anything. Colors had sort of a harshness to them for the first 100 hours and then once the set hit 150 hours, it was bliss...so warm, fuzzy, accurate. I wouldn't worry too much about how it looks until you get to the 100-150 hour mark. If it still looks bad then you should get it calibrated.
post #1583 of 9029
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Originally Posted by TIME2PLAYDAGAME View Post

There's definite Xtalk when I watched Hugo on this set. I would arguably say a lil more so than on my previous Samsung UN55D8000. I've read that movies like Hugo & Happy Feet 2 3D are the movies to watch to test your 3D display, so I'm a lil disappointed after reading how well these new Panasonics are with 3D...plasmas in general actually.

Anyone else test these 2 movies? I'm using the official 2012 Panasonic glasses.

For me crosstalk every once in a while does'nt ruin the experience. With my old Samsung C7000 plasma, it was only bad on occassion. From what i have heard, the new Panasonic models will have conciderably less crosstalk than those original 3D models...so im sure i will be happy with it.

I also had a E8000 plasma which had very good 3D with very little crosstalk.

When my 55GT50 arrives (hopefully next week) and i have time to test 3D i will post an opinion.
post #1584 of 9029
Is there anything in the service menu that lets me turn off that annoying red power light on the front? How do I get in the service menu anyways? Thanks in advance.
post #1585 of 9029
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Originally Posted by HLdan View Post

Interesting, I have a 2012 Panasonic TV and the 2012 glasses. Hugo in 3D works very well on my set. I saw a very small amount of crosstalk but only few times throughout that long movie.
What disappointments are you hearing about plasmas in general?

I'm not disappointed with my plasma at all. I'm disappointed in the 'talk' throughout reviews & forum posters, that plasmas have the best 3D. I think they're right to an extent. IMO it did look like the best 3D I've seen yet but had it's issues. I'm not saying it took away from Hugo but I did notice the Xtalk more than my last Samsung LED. I'm going to try Avatar next which had no Xtalk at all on my previous set.

P.S. What fw is everyone on?
post #1586 of 9029
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Originally Posted by botnet View Post

Is there anything in the service menu that lets me turn off that annoying red power light on the front? How do I get in the service menu anyways? Thanks in advance.

I googled this topic extensively and the consensus seems to be a small square of electrical tape. I did it and never notice it now. Not saying this is the answer I like, but it is the answer I found.

One reason I read for this was essentially that on PDPs, if they are receiving an all black signal (or are broken) you really might not be able to tell on from off without this light on. Again, not my personal belief, but something I read on the internet.

It's too bad they don't have power indicator settings like Samsung and LG!
post #1587 of 9029
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Originally Posted by TIME2PLAYDAGAME View Post

I'm not disappointed with my plasma at all. I'm disappointed in the 'talk' throughout reviews & forum posters, that plasmas have the best 3D. I think they're right to an extent. IMO it did look like the best 3D I've seen yet but had it's issues. I'm not saying it took away from Hugo but I did notice the Xtalk more than my last Samsung LED. I'm going to try Avatar next which had no Xtalk at all on my previous set.

P.S. What fw is everyone on?

I had the Samsung D7000 LED and the crosstalk was fair. There were times that I kept hoping it would go away if I backed up the blu-ray movie and replayed but unfortunately not.
When I got my Panny plasma I did notice the crosstalk was reduced. I would say from my own experience plasma does much better than LED as far as 3D. Of course if you want zero crosstalk then you have to buy an LED with passive 3D but of course that has it's own issues. BTW Hugo is a great movie in both 3D and movie content. For me I can't say the same about Avatar as far as it being a great movie.

Sorry I don't know what you mean by FW?
post #1588 of 9029
^Firmware.
post #1589 of 9029
Quote:
Originally Posted by jstreet View Post

I recently bought a 60GT50 from Amazon. My wife and I have been disappointed with the presets, THX or otherwise, regardless of how I adjust the basic, advanced, or pro settings. The Warm2 setting, as used by D-Nice and CNET for the ST50, gives my GT50 an especially unnatural greenish cast. Tint adjustments introduce other problems. This is not as evident in Warm1, but things are still not quite right.

Presently I have just 20 hours on the set, so its too early to think about a professional calibration. In the meantime, I would like to try tweaking the RGB balance settings in the Custom mode to get a more accurate picture.

My questions are:

Do the "W/B High" and "W/B Low" settings in the Custom mode primarily affect the RGB balance at the high and low IRE levels, respectively (say at 80% and 20% IRE)?

As the phosphors age, is there a tendency for Panasonic's RGB balance to improve even with the preset modes? That is, has Panasonic presciently set it up so that the initial RGB imbalance will tend to self-correct after a few hundred hours?

Thanks for any help you can provide.

Reset all your settings and wait until D-Nice posts the settings for this model in June. Using settings meant for other models and expecting even good results is just plain wrong- sort of like wearing someone else's underwear.
post #1590 of 9029
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Originally Posted by TIME2PLAYDAGAME View Post

There's definite Xtalk when I watched Hugo on this set. I would arguably say a lil more so than on my previous Samsung UN55D8000. I've read that movies like Hugo & Happy Feet 2 3D are the movies to watch to test your 3D display, so I'm a lil disappointed after reading how well these new Panasonics are with 3D...plasmas in general actually.

Anyone else test these 2 movies? I'm using the official 2012 Panasonic glasses.

What mode was the tv in? If you don't change the mode, it will be in the one you last used, it doesn't automatically change over to THX or Custom. Are by any chance using Standard mode?
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