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Originally Posted by hotsho111 View Post

Ya, I'm not really worried about it. I don't notice it during normal viewing I was just checking to see if it was 'normal' or a symptom of some worse problem

nope, your set is fine. it should get better as the panel breaks in.
post #2312 of 9047
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Originally Posted by sheshechic View Post

North Dakota in the winter. Whites!

Ah I see. Haven't seen the movie yet but I already know my GT50 buzzes on white screens. Personally I don't care especially since I know it's nothing actually "wrong" with the TV.
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I hear alot of people raving about their harmony remotes, but i noticed most of them are $100 or more. Are there any in the $50 range that are worth buying or is best to get one of the good ones?
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Originally Posted by wattheF View Post

I hear alot of people raving about their harmony remotes, but i noticed most of them are $100 or more. Are there any in the $50 range that are worth buying or is best to get one of the good ones?

I have the Harmony 600. It's cheap (under $50) and works great with the GT50. It handles up to 5 devices. But I think it's been replaced by the 650 which adds a colour screen instead of the B/W screen on the 600.
post #2315 of 9047
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Originally Posted by ATC7 View Post

I have the Harmony 600. It's cheap (under $50) and works great with the GT50. It handles up to 5 devices. But I think it's been replaced by the 650 which adds a colour screen instead of the B/W screen on the 600.

Great, Thanks for the help.
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Originally Posted by HLdan View Post

Ah I see. Haven't seen the movie yet but I already know my GT50 buzzes on white screens. Personally I don't care especially since I know it's nothing actually "wrong" with the TV.

It's true all plasmas buzz especially with white backgrounds, all my previous plasmas buzzed but this is the first one where we can hear the buzzing from 15 ft away and hear it over some content in normal viewing.
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Originally Posted by HLdan View Post

Ah I see. Haven't seen the movie yet but I already know my GT50 buzzes on white screens. Personally I don't care especially since I know it's nothing actually "wrong" with the TV.

At what distance do you no longer hear buzz?
post #2318 of 9047
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Originally Posted by ATC7 View Post

I have the Harmony 600. It's cheap (under $50) and works great with the GT50. It handles up to 5 devices. But I think it's been replaced by the 650 which adds a colour screen instead of the B/W screen on the 600.

I use a cable box DVR via HDMI but also connect the RF cable to the antenna input. That allows me to record two programs and watch live TV from one of the major channels (only the major channels, other cable channels must use a cable box). Can the remote be set up to "Watch TV via STB" as well as "Watch TV via Antenna?"

Thanks
post #2319 of 9047
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by ATC7 View Post

It's true all plasmas buzz especially with white backgrounds, all my previous plasmas buzzed but this is the first one where we can hear the buzzing from 15 ft away and hear it over some content in normal viewing.

Your TV is defective. You should not be able to hear any buzzing beyond maybe 4 feet, much less 15 feet. Is the buzzing coming from the screen when you sit dead center? Or is it coming from the back of the TV (like the upper right corner when viewing from the rear)?

Can you have the TV replaced? If not, call Panasonic and get it repaired.
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Originally Posted by wattheF View Post

I hear alot of people raving about their harmony remotes, but i noticed most of them are $100 or more. Are there any in the $50 range that are worth buying or is best to get one of the good ones?

Cough up the cash and get the Harmony One.....it's excellent. All the codes are there for the Panny GT50 series....you'll never regret it.

EDIT: I see it for as little as $137 online...
Edited by bierboy - 6/20/12 at 7:32am
post #2321 of 9047
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Originally Posted by RandyWalters View Post

Your TV is defective. You should not be able to hear any buzzing beyond maybe 4 feet, much less 15 feet. Is the buzzing coming from the screen when you sit dead center? Or is it coming from the back of the TV (like the upper right corner when viewing from the rear)?
Can you have the TV replaced? If not, call Panasonic and get it repaired.

It's coming from the back of the set, from the left side mostly (when viewed from the front). I'm getting it replaced on Tuesday.
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I had some grief programming my Harmony One with my 55GT50 unitl I ignored Harmony's software that asked if the input button cycled through the inputs or if it had direct buttons for each. It DOES cycle through the inputs, but there are descrete codes in the Harmony data base for accessing the inputs directly. Works like a charm... I have "activities" for watching Blu-Ray (Panasonic DMP BDT 500 through Multi-channel inputs on my Pioneer Elite 59TXi), Satellite (Dish 922), DVDs, SACD and DVD-Audio (PIoneer Elite 79AVi through i-Link sound and HDMI video), and 3rd Gen Apple TV for AirPlay of iTunes stuff AND YouTube videos onto the GT50. The Harmony One pulls it all together, one button for each activity.

One activity I still have to program - which I didn't realize I needed - is Skype. My son is in the Peace Corps in Jordan and we're enjoying seeing him on the big screen. Right now when he tries to Skype us we get a message on the screen, but then I have to select the call, go into the menu and turn the TV sound to on (it's normally off, running everything through the receiver), and then turn the sound off again when I'm done with the call. Kind of cumbersome, even knowing what to do. My wife wouldn't be able to do it. Has anyone done something like this with the GT50/Harmony One? I'm having trouble getting my head around it.

BTW, the Panasonic camera works well - it SHOULD be built into the set rather than be another $100 or so. The microphones work well, and the camera gives a good WIDE shot (no zooming that I can see) if the light is ok.

Larry
post #2323 of 9047
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Originally Posted by LDBecker View Post

I had some grief programming my Harmony One with my 55GT50 unitl I ignored Harmony's software that asked if the input button cycled through the inputs or if it had direct buttons for each. It DOES cycle through the inputs, but there are descrete codes in the Harmony data base for accessing the inputs directly. Works like a charm... I have "activities" for watching Blu-Ray (Panasonic DMP BDT 500 through Multi-channel inputs on my Pioneer Elite 59TXi), Satellite (Dish 922), DVDs, SACD and DVD-Audio (PIoneer Elite 79AVi through i-Link sound and HDMI video), and 3rd Gen Apple TV for AirPlay of iTunes stuff AND YouTube videos onto the GT50. The Harmony One pulls it all together, one button for each activity.
One activity I still have to program - which I didn't realize I needed - is Skype. My son is in the Peace Corps in Jordan and we're enjoying seeing him on the big screen. Right now when he tries to Skype us we get a message on the screen, but then I have to select the call, go into the menu and turn the TV sound to on (it's normally off, running everything through the receiver), and then turn the sound off again when I'm done with the call. Kind of cumbersome, even knowing what to do. My wife wouldn't be able to do it. Has anyone done something like this with the GT50/Harmony One? I'm having trouble getting my head around it.
BTW, the Panasonic camera works well - it SHOULD be built into the set rather than be another $100 or so. The microphones work well, and the camera gives a good WIDE shot (no zooming that I can see) if the light is ok.
Larry

That's odd -- when I set up my One two weeks ago when I got the 55GT50, I was never prompted about "cycling". It immediately set up with the discrete codes to go directly to the proper input on each activity.

That's also interesting about the Skype feature. Unfortunately, my son uses an XBox Kinect which means we have to use MSN Messenger on our end. We like that he uses the Kinect because it gives us a much wider view of his family (with three young, active grandsons smile.gif ).
post #2324 of 9047
That's for that little tidbit. I'll have to look at mine again. Mine cycles through the inputs which takes forever.
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Originally Posted by LDBecker View Post

I had some grief programming my Harmony One with my 55GT50 unitl I ignored Harmony's software that asked if the input button cycled through the inputs or if it had direct buttons for each. It DOES cycle through the inputs, but there are descrete codes in the Harmony data base for accessing the inputs directly. Works like a charm... I have "activities" for watching Blu-Ray (Panasonic DMP BDT 500 through Multi-channel inputs on my Pioneer Elite 59TXi), Satellite (Dish 922), DVDs, SACD and DVD-Audio (PIoneer Elite 79AVi through i-Link sound and HDMI video), and 3rd Gen Apple TV for AirPlay of iTunes stuff AND YouTube videos onto the GT50. The Harmony One pulls it all together, one button for each activity.
One activity I still have to program - which I didn't realize I needed - is Skype. My son is in the Peace Corps in Jordan and we're enjoying seeing him on the big screen. Right now when he tries to Skype us we get a message on the screen, but then I have to select the call, go into the menu and turn the TV sound to on (it's normally off, running everything through the receiver), and then turn the sound off again when I'm done with the call. Kind of cumbersome, even knowing what to do. My wife wouldn't be able to do it. Has anyone done something like this with the GT50/Harmony One? I'm having trouble getting my head around it.
BTW, the Panasonic camera works well - it SHOULD be built into the set rather than be another $100 or so. The microphones work well, and the camera gives a good WIDE shot (no zooming that I can see) if the light is ok.
Larry
post #2325 of 9047
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Originally Posted by sheshechic View Post

At what distance do you no longer hear buzz?

Well I sit about 8 feet from the TV and under normal TV viewing I never hear buzz but that's probably because most normal TV viewing has mixed colors on the screen and a lot of black backgrounds. Not much TV viewing has white screens as the majority other than commercials so that's why I don't hear it. When I've seen the commercial for Macy's I can hear the buzz clearly because they use white backgrounds in their ads along with their annoying music rolleyes.gif. Yes, it's odd and yes, it seems like it shouldn't be that way and with today's technology it's weird that this even happens but I don't understand TV electronics (in regards to the actual technology) enough to get the point of why this buzz has to be, I mean it shouldn't be audible period in any plasma. That guy that was watching Fargo and experienced that buzz shouldn't have had to experience that. It's not his fault that movie has mostly white screens. He should be able to enjoy the movie without annoying sounds coming from the TV.
post #2326 of 9047
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by bierboy View Post

Cough up the cash and get the Harmony One.....it's excellent. All the codes are there for the Panny GT50 series....you'll never regret it. EDIT: I see it for as little as $137 online...

I wouldn't call Harmonys excellent, they're not built very well and i've had problems getting them to do what i need them to do. Lotsa complaints about em here.

I prefer the URC remotes:

URC R40 Thread:
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1384297/official-urc-r40-thread

URC R50 Thread (older model):
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1084473/urc-r50
post #2327 of 9047
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Originally Posted by RandyWalters View Post

I wouldn't call Harmonys excellent, they're not built very well and i've had problems getting them to do what i need them to do. Lotsa complaints about em here.
I prefer the URC remotes:
URC R40 Thread:
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1384297/official-urc-r40-thread
URC R50 Thread (older model):
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1084473/urc-r50

OMG, I'm so happy that you've posted this again, now I don't have to hunt for it. biggrin.gif
post #2328 of 9047
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Originally Posted by RandyWalters View Post

I wouldn't call Harmonys excellent, they're not built very well and i've had problems getting them to do what i need them to do. Lotsa complaints about em here.
I prefer the URC remotes:
URC R40 Thread:
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1384297/official-urc-r40-thread
URC R50 Thread (older model):
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1084473/urc-r50

I didn't say ALL Harmonys are excellent. I had problems with several 550s. I said my One was excellent; I have NEVER had a problem with it....built very solid and does everything I need it to do...
post #2329 of 9047
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Originally Posted by TIME2PLAYDAGAME View Post

I've posted this already but here goes...This is all I do when playing X360/PS3. I set both systems to 1080p & use Game mode on the TV. Only settings on the TV I changed were turn off color management & turned on 1080p direct. And this was only due to over saturation while playing MW3, all other games seemed fine. I have had no issues at all with PS3 but again, I use the same settings from X360 just to be safe.
I have a 60inch GT50 I was having the same judder issue when playing Battlefield 3 on Xbox. I put the set on Vivid picture setting and turned motion smoother all the way up. This seemed to help. The Game mode actually looked worse and Color Management was not an available option when in game mode. How do you change it in Game mode? Some adjustments only seem available in certain modes. I'm coming from a 60hz Vizio so this is a big leap in technology for me. Thanks in advance for the help.
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I am thinking about picking up the 60inch version and I wanted to see if the TV is bright enough? I know the blacks are great but, when I look at the set in the store, it seems a bit dark. I know the LED's are cranked up way too bright but, the GT50 seems a bit dark. Can it be adjusted? I also wanted to see if anyone could shed some light on if they think the GT50 is as good as the VT50? I am contemplating the GT50 because I have room for a 60inch model and the VT50 only comes in 55 or 65 so I would have to go with the 55 if I stay with the VT model.
Any light shed would be great. My wife kind of likes the "soap opera" look that the Samsung LED has but, I am thinking that the plasma is the way to go. Please let me know what recommendations you can offer.
Thanks in advance for any advice!
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I am in the market for a new TV now that I am finishing my basement. I have been driving myself crazy researching for the right one & have narrowed it down for the most part to a 65GT50. But, one thing has had me very nervous.....I have also been reading several reports of bad IR issues with this year's Pannys. I have never owned a plasma (only have owned LCDs & LEDs) & do not want to constantly worry about IR issues. I know that sometimes what is a minor / rare issue overall can be exaggerated in the forums because people post to get assistance on fixing an issue. While the vast majority maybe fine & we just don't see a postings like "everything is great, not IR issues here."

I am interested in hearing from those people that have owned the GT50 for a while (or even the ST50 & VT50).....should I be worried / concerned? That is currently the only thing that is holding me back & potentially going down the route of a Samsung ES8000.
post #2332 of 9047
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Originally Posted by lance7 View Post

I am thinking about picking up the 60inch version and I wanted to see if the TV is bright enough? I know the blacks are great but, when I look at the set in the store, it seems a bit dark. I know the LED's are cranked up way too bright but, the GT50 seems a bit dark. Can it be adjusted? I also wanted to see if anyone could shed some light on if they think the GT50 is as good as the VT50? I am contemplating the GT50 because I have room for a 60inch model and the VT50 only comes in 55 or 65 so I would have to go with the 55 if I stay with the VT model.
Any light shed would be great. My wife kind of likes the "soap opera" look that the Samsung LED has but, I am thinking that the plasma is the way to go. Please let me know what recommendations you can offer.
Thanks in advance for any advice!

My room is plenty bright, with a row of three tall windows to the right of the set. The GT50 is bright enough out of the box (not calibrated). The 60GT50 replaced a 2010 LCD and it does much better during the day and at night. There will be reflections, as is true for every tv this year, but not as bad as most. The VT50 is only slightly better but it is also slightly less bright in THX Bright Room mode. I have owned the 55GT50, 60GT50 and 55 VT50 and I posted about them on this thread and the VT50 thread (posted pictures on this thread too). I am exchanging the 55VT50 for the 60GT50 this week..

Also, you can achieve SOE with these tvs too, perhaps you could let your wife have one mode of her own? wink.gif
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Originally Posted by Chappy-2 View Post

I am in the market for a new TV now that I am finishing my basement. I have been driving myself crazy researching for the right one & have narrowed it down for the most part to a 65GT50. But, one thing has had me very nervous.....I have also been reading several reports of bad IR issues with this year's Pannys. I have never owned a plasma (only have owned LCDs & LEDs) & do not want to constantly worry about IR issues. I know that sometimes what is a minor / rare issue overall can be exaggerated in the forums because people post to get assistance on fixing an issue. While the vast majority maybe fine & we just don't see a postings like "everything is great, not IR issues here."
I am interested in hearing from those people that have owned the GT50 for a while (or even the ST50 & VT50).....should I be worried / concerned? That is currently the only thing that is holding me back & potentially going down the route of a Samsung ES8000.

If you will display a lot of static images on the screen then plasma is not for you. If you only watch ESPN or MSNBC or material that has bars all the time then you will encounter IR at some point. Many of the people who have reported terrible IR may have done the same and did not adjust their viewing or much else to help the IR dissipate. I believe that many of those who reported it on Amazon and here used the slides to hunt for it and when found tripped out. Some of them really freaked out when it did not go away within a certain time frame. IMO, most did not see it with normal content. Of those that did, few reported that it didn't fade and/or go away all together. There are some that I cannot draw real information from because they did not provide enough information.

If, as one wise member said, you feed your tv a well balanced diet of a variety of material you should have no problem. One other very wise member said that hunting for IR with the slides is the equivalent of self abuse, and I couldn't agree more. I had the GTs for 3 weeks each, I did not run slides, I did turn on the orbiter, lowered contrast and brightness a bit and I saw no IR at all. I did run a lot of HD full screen, bug free and banner-less material the first 24 or so hours but that was so that it could settle in- brights got brighter and darks got a little deeper and they continued to do that during the time that I had them.
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Originally Posted by sheshechic View Post

If you will display a lot of static images on the screen then plasma is not for you. If you only watch ESPN or MSNBC or material that has bars all the time then you will encounter IR at some point. Many of the people who have reported terrible IR may have done the same and did not adjust their viewing or much else to help the IR dissipate. I believe that many of those who reported it on Amazon and here used the slides to hunt for it and when found tripped out. Some of them really freaked out when it did not go away within a certain time frame. IMO, most did not see it with normal content. Of those that did, few reported that it didn't fade and/or go away all together. There are some that I cannot draw real information from because they did not provide enough information.
If, as one wise member said, you feed your tv a well balanced diet of a variety of material you should have no problem. One other very wise member said that hunting for IR with the slides is the equivalent of self abuse, and I couldn't agree more. I had the GTs for 3 weeks each, I did not run slides, I did turn on the orbiter, lowered contrast and brightness a bit and I saw no IR at all. I did run a lot of HD full screen, bug free and banner-less material the first 24 or so hours but that was so that it could settle in- brights got brighter and darks got a little deeper and they continued to do that during the time that I had them.

Thanks for the response. I think I can get used to stretching non-HD channels to full screen. I do play MW3 on my PS3 occansionally, but 1-2 hours at most in a single streatch. If the GT50 can handle that without IR problems, then I feel good about purchasing it. Right now ST50 & GT50 seem like the most bang for the buck along with fewer reported issues,
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Originally Posted by Chappy-2 View Post


Thanks for the response. I think I can get used to stretching non-HD channels to full screen. I do play MW3 on my PS3 occansionally, but 1-2 hours at most in a single streatch. If the GT50 can handle that without IR problems, then I feel good about purchasing it. Right now ST50 & GT50 seem like the most bang for the buck along with fewer reported issues,

I love the GT50. I have seen more reports of IR on the ST but, as another member stated, that could be because more people own the ST. I dunno. It seems to me that if there weren't enough GT50 buyers then the price would drop more and more often at Amazon, like the ST does. But hey, maybe their inventory of ST50s is huge. rolleyes.gif
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Originally Posted by Chappy-2 View Post


Thanks for the response. I think I can get used to stretching non-HD channels to full screen. I do play MW3 on my PS3 occansionally, but 1-2 hours at most in a single streatch. If the GT50 can handle that without IR problems, then I feel good about purchasing it. Right now ST50 & GT50 seem like the most bang for the buck along with fewer reported issues,

If "...stretching non-HD channels to full screen" means using Menu/Picture/Aspect adjustments HD=Size 2, I believe one posting indicated that it turned off pixel orbiter, which is used to prevent Image Retention. Check it out.
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Originally Posted by tom1996 View Post

I use a cable box DVR via HDMI but also connect the RF cable to the antenna input. That allows me to record two programs and watch live TV from one of the major channels (only the major channels, other cable channels must use a cable box). Can the remote be set up to "Watch TV via STB" as well as "Watch TV via Antenna?"
Thanks

Yes you can do that. You can add custom activities where you define which input the TV will be set for each and you can label each activity yourself, for example you label one activity "Watch TV" and the other "Watch STB" or something.
post #2338 of 9047
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Originally Posted by tom1996 View Post

If "...stretching non-HD channels to full screen" means using Menu/Picture/Aspect adjustments HD=Size 2, I believe one posting indicated that it turned off pixel orbiter, which is used to prevent Image Retention. Check it out.

I believe you're right.
I never stretch.
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Originally Posted by sheshechic View Post



Thanks for the response. I think I can get used to stretching non-HD channels to full screen. I do play MW3 on my PS3 occansionally, but 1-2 hours at most in a single streatch. If the GT50 can handle that without IR problems, then I feel good about purchasing it. Right now ST50 & GT50 seem like the most bang for the buck along with fewer reported issues

I've had my GT50 for about 4 weeks, and my kids watch a lot of SD cartoons. I never stretch the shows to fit 16:9 and I have yet to see the black bars linger. It's possible I just don't look hard enough, but I really haven't noticed any kind of image retention.
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Originally Posted by sheshechic View Post

If you will display a lot of static images on the screen then plasma is not for you. If you only watch ESPN or MSNBC or material that has bars all the time then you will encounter IR at some point. Many of the people who have reported terrible IR may have done the same and did not adjust their viewing or much else to help the IR dissipate. I believe that many of those who reported it on Amazon and here used the slides to hunt for it and when found tripped out. Some of them really freaked out when it did not go away within a certain time frame. IMO, most did not see it with normal content. Of those that did, few reported that it didn't fade and/or go away all together. There are some that I cannot draw real information from because they did not provide enough information.
If, as one wise member said, you feed your tv a well balanced diet of a variety of material you should have no problem. One other very wise member said that hunting for IR with the slides is the equivalent of self abuse, and I couldn't agree more. I had the GTs for 3 weeks each, I did not run slides, I did turn on the orbiter, lowered contrast and brightness a bit and I saw no IR at all. I did run a lot of HD full screen, bug free and banner-less material the first 24 or so hours but that was so that it could settle in- brights got brighter and darks got a little deeper and they continued to do that during the time that I had them.

Thanks for the response. I think I can get used to stretching non-HD channels to full screen. I do play MW3 on my PS3 occansionally, but 1-2 hours at most in a single streatch. If the GT50 can handle that without IR problems, then I feel good about purchasing it. Right now ST50 & GT50 seem like the most bang for the buck along with fewer reported issues,

I've had my GT50 for about 4 weeks, and my kids watch a lot of SD cartoons. I never stretch the shows to fit 16:9 and I have yet to see the black bars linger. It's possible I just don't look hard enough, but I really haven't noticed any kind of image retention.
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