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D-Nice will post by June's end at high def junkies dot com in the Reviews section.
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Thanks much

I believe these are Katzmaier's settings not D-Nice's.
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I believe these are Katzmaier's settings not D-Nice's.

Yes, I had ask for the Katz settings.
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Originally Posted by Lestat Phoenix View Post

... So that would mean the ST has better pic quality due to the fact that one cost less than the other ...

Wow eek.gif Quite Phoenix, the adults are talking biggrin.gif Oh, thank you for finally proving the GT50 has better PQ.


Anywho, does anyone know a "simple" way to get an onscreen "tv guide" with one of the apps. The best I have come up with is to go to the web browser and use TitanTV.com. It takes too many button presses. I really miss the simple guide my 18 year old Mitsubishi tube used to have rolleyes.gif
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D-Nice will post by June's end at high def junkies dot com in the Reviews section.

Thanks
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I'm currently on the fence between the VT and GT on which to order next week, and am wondering if y'all are generally happy with this set? I can't view either first hand so i'm going into this blindly with just reviews and forum knowledge.
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Originally Posted by nucl3arboNg View Post

I'm currently on the fence between the VT and GT on which to order next week, and am wondering if y'all are generally happy with this set? I can't view either first hand so i'm going into this blindly with just reviews and forum knowledge.


What kind of TV are you coming from?
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Originally Posted by nucl3arboNg View Post

I'm currently on the fence between the VT and GT on which to order next week, and am wondering if y'all are generally happy with this set? I can't view either first hand so i'm going into this blindly with just reviews and forum knowledge.

I love my 55'' GT50. But apparently there is no real noticeable PQ difference between the ST and GT. The advantages of the GT are THX picture modes and (IMO) better aestetic design. The VT does offer a slight step up in design and PQ but you will pay for it. Many have said the best bet is to get the ST and with the money you save get a bigger size and/or have it calibrated, but honestly you can't go wrong with whatever you choose.
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What kind of TV are you coming from?

I currently have a Panny 50PZ77U which will be moving into my bedroom, and the new set will be a 65"
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Originally Posted by wattheF View Post

I love my 55'' GT50. But apparently there is no real noticeable PQ difference between the ST and GT. The advantages of the GT are THX picture modes and (IMO) better aestetic design. The VT does offer a slight step up in design and PQ but you will pay for it. Many have said the best bet is to get the ST and with the money you save get a bigger size and/or have it calibrated, but honestly you can't go wrong with whatever you choose.

Well I won't be able to get it calibrated anytime soon. There is none where I live and i'm just renting where I live...would suck to pay all that money and just suddenly have to pack up and move. I really don't like the plastic around the border on the ST that's for sure and would like something that looks attractive. Another big factor would be the filter quality for glare.....
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Originally Posted by nucl3arboNg View Post

I'm currently on the fence between the VT and GT on which to order next week, and am wondering if y'all are generally happy with this set? I can't view either first hand so i'm going into this blindly with just reviews and forum knowledge.

Well, the VT is reported to be a little blacker but also a little darker than the GT. The VT and GT have more usb and HDMI inputs along with a VGA input and a dual core processor for future apps written to take advantage of its better performance. The ST has a kinda cheesy plastic frame trim and wider bezel but its cheaper and gives comparable PQ if its properly calibrated.

For me the VT did not make sense economically or size wise (65 is too big for me, 55 was a little to small). The 60" was perfect. The lack of VGA on the ST was a deal breaker but I probably would have still gone with the GT based on appearence. At the time the GT was only $100 more.
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Well, the VT is reported to be a little blacker but also a little darker than the GT. The VT and GT have more usb and HDMI inputs along with a VGA input and a dual core processor for future apps written to take advantage of its better performance. The ST has a kinda cheesy plastic frame trim and wider bezel but its cheaper and gives comparable PQ if its properly calibrated.
For me the VT did not make sense economically or size wise (65 is too big for me, 55 was a little to small). The 60" was perfect. The lack of VGA on the ST was a deal breaker but I probably would have still gone with the GT based on appearence. At the time the GT was only $100 more.

The the looks of the ST are a major turnoff for me as well. I think i'm leaning towards the GT even though things like the extra connections don't really mean anything to me as i'm running everything through an AVR. Will I need to get new HDMI cables or is that just a myth?
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.Will I need to get new HDMI cables or is that just a myth?
.. only if you don't have high speed cables.
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Originally Posted by nucl3arboNg View Post

The the looks of the ST are a major turnoff for me as well. I think i'm leaning towards the GT even though things like the extra connections don't really mean anything to me as i'm running everything through an AVR. Will I need to get new HDMI cables or is that just a myth?

HDMI is a constantly evolving "standard". Its also somewhat a mess of naming. I believe the latest and greatest is officialy HDMI v.1.4 (also called high speed HDMI with ethernet) HDMI v.1.3 category 2 cables will handle the 1.4 standard except ethernet BUT they are not "certified" to do so. If its v. 1.3 category 1 or older you will probably want new cables but only if you are connecting to a device that needs the enhancements of the 1.4 standard (3D BlueRay, AVR with return channel ... etc) If you are just connecting a Beta Max biggrin.gif you won't any new cables biggrin.gif
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I finally set up my 50GT50 and discovered by happenstance that HDMI 4 does not work. I called the repair service and they had me plug several items into HDMI 4 and the same items into other HDMI ports and found that HDMI 4 indeed does not work. A local repairer will be here on Friday. I also found out that my Toshiba DVR620KU, DVD video recorder/VCR will only work with component output and not with an HDMI cable, even though it has an HDMI receptacle. A message popped up on the screen advising me to use component cables. I believe that the message was generated by the TV not by the DVD/VCR.
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Have you guys noticed the brightness jumping around in 3d in darker scenes, it's kind of the pulsing darker then brighter.
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I bought a 55GT50 a little over 3 weeks ago from Amazon, and I have been very happy with it. However, I have noticed the buzzing issue that several are mentioning. I do only notice it on lighter (mainly white) backgrounds, and I can hear it distinctly at 9 feet away with the sound muted, and I can make it out barely with the sound on. It appears to be coming from the top left of the panel as I am facing the TV. I hate to return this set because otherwise I am happy with it, but if it is a defect (i.e. not normal), then I need to return it soon as my 30day window is almost up. I am coming from LCD so I don't have any experience with plasma, but from my reading, it seems mixed if this is defective or not. What to do...
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Originally Posted by tpollagi View Post

HDMI is a constantly evolving "standard". Its also somewhat a mess of naming. I believe the latest and greatest is officialy HDMI v.1.4 (also called high speed HDMI with ethernet) HDMI v.1.3 category 2 cables will handle the 1.4 standard except ethernet BUT they are not "certified" to do so. If its v. 1.3 category 1 or older you will probably want new cables but only if you are connecting to a device that needs the enhancements of the 1.4 standard (3D BlueRay, AVR with return channel ... etc) If you are just connecting a Beta Max biggrin.gif you won't any new cables biggrin.gif

well i'm actually buying a new 3d AVR and will be running a PS3 (gaming/head unit), and an HD PVR.
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Have you guys noticed the brightness jumping around in 3d in darker scenes, it's kind of the pulsing darker then brighter.

What picture mode and settings are you using in 3d mode?
Standard mode and especially if CATS is on will cause that effect.

I don't get varying brightness levels in 2D or 3D using custom mode with many effects turned off and set to 0, including CATS, AGC, Black Extension, etc.
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I see it in all modes with cats off.
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I, too, was on the fence about returning my 60gt50 because of audible buzzing at 10 feet in a silent room with tv muted and all white screen on. Actual it's still audible at up to 15 feet if I'm listening for it. My situation is the exact same as ATC7, meaning no other issues with the panel except the buzzing. I decided to exchange the tv yesterday and my replacement was louder than the first. The first had a softer buzz, the second was definitely louder in pitch. (I could hear the buzz over low volume) Not only that, but it had blotches on it. So today, upon approval of the manager, I exchanged for my first one back. I'm pretty convinced that most gt50's have audible buzzing in a completely silent environment. The ability to hear it varies. My Dad and my neighbour both couldn't hear it with their ears to the back of the set. I could hear it from over 10 feet. Just wanted to share my experience.
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Originally Posted by Adamd View Post

Have you guys noticed the brightness jumping around in 3d in darker scenes, it's kind of the pulsing darker then brighter.

Funny you should mention that, cuz I was watching pirates of the carib 4 in 3d and I noticed faces go from light to slightly lighter and then slightly darker as if they were pulsating. I didn't think much of it. But now that you have it too, it must be the NEW accepted industry standard! biggrin.gif I've come to the conclusion that there is no perfect tv, only people with perfect vision and perfect hearing. I've returned 6 tv sets in the last 10 months. The first a sammy un55d6900 for dead pixel. The second a panny 50st30 for stuck pixel and slight green tinge. The third sammy un60d6500 for terrible line bleed. The fourth sharp LCD Lc-60E79un (yes I was that afraid of LED uniformity issues by then) for a weird condition where the screen image would warp and turn black and then back on again and repeat cycle until the credits screen finished. I then waited 5 months with no TV for the new panny 2012 lineup. The fifth panny 60gt50 for white screen buzzing sound. The sixth is same as fifth for same issue plus blotches. All these TVs developed faults within 30 days. There is no quality control anymore. IMO I count these defects as failures in manufacturing and someone once posted the failure rate in electronics manufacturing is 5%, so then I must be one in 64 million to have 6 defective panels in a row.
(That is, if you count buzzing audible at 10 feet as a defect) confused.gif
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I, too, was on the fence about returning my 60gt50 because of audible buzzing at 10 feet in a silent room with tv muted and all white screen on. Actual it's still audible at up to 15 feet if I'm listening for it. My situation is the exact same as ATC7, meaning no other issues with the panel except the buzzing. I decided to exchange the tv yesterday and my replacement was louder than the first. The first had a softer buzz, the second was definitely louder in pitch. (I could hear the buzz over low volume) Not only that, but it had blotches on it. So today, upon approval of the manager, I exchanged for my first one back. I'm pretty convinced that most gt50's have audible buzzing in a completely silent environment. The ability to hear it varies. My Dad and my neighbour both couldn't hear it with their ears to the back of the set. I could hear it from over 10 feet. Just wanted to share my experience.

That sucks, although awesome that you were able to exchange for your first GT. I'm tempted to keep some cash on hand to offer the delivery guys and have them wait an extra 10-15 mins while I test the new set, so that if it's any worse I'd just keep the one I have. Apart from the buzzing, I absolutely love my GT50. I've thrown everything at it, from PS3 games to my HD STB, to BDs and DVDs and it's been nothing short of spectacular PQ-wise. cool.gif
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I am really leaning toward keeping mine despite the buzzing. It doesn't happen often enough for me to be that concerned, and like I said before, I love the TV overall. Before my xbox was inside our new cabinet, it made much more noise than any buzzing this tv makes, so it is still a vast improvement for us. Also, my wife can't hear it nearly as much as I can.
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Originally Posted by hkp2k View Post

I am really leaning toward keeping mine despite the buzzing. It doesn't happen often enough for me to be that concerned, and like I said before, I love the TV overall. Before my xbox was inside our new cabinet, it made much more noise than any buzzing this tv makes, so it is still a vast improvement for us. Also, my wife can't hear it nearly as much as I can.

I am convinced after doing so much research, all plasma's have some kind of buzzing, its just the nature of the beast.
Edited by jp0213x - 6/24/12 at 6:02pm
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60GT50 price dropped on Amazon biggrin.gif
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Originally Posted by nucl3arboNg View Post

The the looks of the ST are a major turnoff for me as well. I think i'm leaning towards the GT even though things like the extra connections don't really mean anything to me as i'm running everything through an AVR. Will I need to get new HDMI cables or is that just a myth?

If you have a light controlled room and only need one really good setting then the ST50 may not disappoint you and you can try out D-Nice or Cnet's settings since you don't want to have it calibrated. If you want more options for different environments that look awesome out of the box then go with the GT50. Personally, I love the looks of the GT50 on and off, I love it even more at 60", so much so that I returned a 55VT50 to get the 60GT50 back. IMO, where the VT excels most is in blocking reflections but not by much, and all else is so close that it's not worthy of the cost difference when comparing sets of the equal size.

Also, the GT's image was so good that I wasn't so sure that a professional calibration was necessary for me to be happy (and I am picky) but with the VT I always felt that I would need to. All three models seem to share the same problems, however, so far there are more complaints about stubborn IR by ST owners than GT, however it could just be due to there being more owners.

BTW, if you have hdmi 1.3 they will work with this tv but you will need an optical cable to get sound to your avr, or if you want to take advantage of arc you'll need to upgrade to high speed 1.4.
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So I was running my purity test from the WOW disc and noticed a dead or stuck pixel on the pure red slide. Is this something I should be worried about or acceptable as the only fault of the tv?


edit- I also should note it only shows up on the red screen. None of the others. I've never experienced a dead or stuck pixel. Anyone know if this will unstick. I believe the pixel is yellowish in color.
Edited by melio111 - 6/24/12 at 12:10am
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So I was running my purity test from the WOW disc and noticed a dead or stuck pixel on the pure red slide. Is this something I should be worried about or acceptable as the only fault of the tv?
edit- I also should note it only shows up on the red screen. None of the others. I've never experienced a dead or stuck pixel. Anyone know if this will unstick. I believe the pixel is yellowish in color.

I'm sorry to hear that. There is a chance that it will get unstuck from all what I've read. I had a red/purple-ish stuck pixel on my former st30. I waited for it to cure itself but it never did so back to the store it went. (along with it's green tinge)
Maybe run a good screen wipe program overnight to see if that helps.
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Originally Posted by melio111 View Post

So I was running my purity test from the WOW disc and noticed a dead or stuck pixel on the pure red slide. Is this something I should be worried about or acceptable as the only fault of the tv?
edit- I also should note it only shows up on the red screen. None of the others. I've never experienced a dead or stuck pixel. Anyone know if this will unstick. I believe the pixel is yellowish in color.

You can try pixeljogger: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1406663/pixel-jogger-breakin-improves-pq-plasma-lcd-led-tv-the-only-way
Play it on continuous loop with mid-high contrast for 8-24+ hours etc. continu.

A less effective version pixelflipper is on WOW disc.
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