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Originally Posted by CAGE RATTLER View Post

WOW .... 99 pages to read!!
But I'm about to take the plunge in buying my 1st plasma TV and the 60GT50 definitely has gotten some great reviews and looks like a good choice for $1800.
No way i have time to read thru this whole thread before pulling the trigger so could I possibly get a summary or two of what I'm in for (good & Bad). and what to look for in case i get a defective unit.
I watch alot of HD and also analog channels and do a little gaming on the xbox 360 as well (which scares me with a plasma).
havent gotten into bluray yet but plan on getting a nice blue ray home theatre setup when i get the new TV.
I just switched from comcast to FIOS and was told how much better the PQ was with fios but so far I'm not impressed.
My TV now is a Sony DLP 55" SXRD KDS2020 so i was thinking the TV is holding me back on PQ, so thats when i started shopping around and reading reviews and decided it was time to try a plasma.
Thanks

Hello,
I purchased a 60GT50 6 days ago and so far IR has not been an issue in any way. I did not use Color Slides, but did use 16:9 Source Material exclusively for the first 100 hours. Since then, I have used it no differently than I used the Sony LCD that proceeded it. As for Gaming, I have cut back a great deal. That being said, the almost total lack of Input Lag compared to my Sony is astonishing.

I would be careful about not using torch modes whilst gaming. I can only say that there are many plasma owners who play games extensively with no issue. I would recommend using the "Search this Thread" at the top of the page to whittle down the posts from 99 Pages. Them enter in something like GT50 and Gaming or PS3/360 to see owner experiences. Good luck with whatever decision you decide.
Cheers,
JJ
post #2972 of 9028
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Originally Posted by RandyWalters View Post

They're different. My G10's power cable is straight (like a PC power cord), but my GT50's power cable has a low-profile 90 degree angle connector.

thank you for your response. Looks like I have some extra work cut out for me.
post #2973 of 9028
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Originally Posted by RandyWalters View Post

I watch a lot of local HD news over my antenna. The 720p OTA broadcasts are definitely softer and less detailed on my 50GT50 than they are on my 2009 G10. The G10 is crisper and shows much better facial detail than the GT50, especially on longer shots where the softness gets exponentially worse. It's a profound difference over my G10.
1080i OTA is also a little softer on the GT50, but the difference is not as big as it is on 720p channels.
This softness was almost a deal breaker, but over the past month it has gotten a bit better and i have gotten more used to it. I spent Sunday at my friend's house watching Speed channel on his 9G Kuro and realized that it is similarly soft like my GT50, and when i got home i played back recorded segments of the same programming that we watched on his Kuro earlier and my TV is indeed close to the same softness level as his Kuro. Now i don't feel so bad biggrin.gif

thaks for your affirmation about 720 HD broadcast randy - at least i know i'm not (totally) crazy and others are seeing the same thing with the facial / longer shots lacking picture detail/crispness
post #2974 of 9028
Sorry to hear that some of yall have issues with picture being too soft. But I always believe there are lots of factors to effect picture (settings, source, connections, etc). Also everyone has different eye sight...that makes it difficult sometimes to use someone else's settings. Gotta go with what looks best to you, I am no video expert but I know what looks good to me. Also, I saw today that the 60GT50 is $1899 on amazon, that is a deal!
post #2975 of 9028
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Originally Posted by chadsdsmith View Post

Does anyone know if the power cable is the same between the various panasonic plasmas through the years? I have a 55" g10 and my 65" gt50 is coming thursday. It would be a lot easier, due to the manner in which the power cable is routed, if I could use the cable from the g10 on the new gt50, but certainly don't want to mess something up.Anyone know?thanks

The G10 power cable should work if you don't wall mount, or as long as the distance from the wall isn't close. However, like Randy stated, the GT50 comes with a 90° low profile power cord that has a locking mechanism to keep it in place.
post #2976 of 9028
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Originally Posted by slb View Post

The G10 power cable should work if you don't wall mount, or as long as the distance from the wall isn't close. However, like Randy stated, the GT50 comes with a 90° low profile power cord that has a locking mechanism to keep it in place.

Thanks for the response. I will check it out when it gets here tomorrow. It will be on the wall, but my mount is an articulating one, so it doesn't get as close to the wall as most wall mounts do. So, it wont hurt anything to use the g10 power cable right?
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Originally Posted by chadsdsmith View Post

Thanks for the response. I will check it out when it gets here tomorrow. It will be on the wall, but my mount is an articulating one, so it doesn't get as close to the wall as most wall mounts do. So, it wont hurt anything to use the g10 power cable right?

My G10's straight power cable has a similar locking mechanism as my GT50, but i would suggest that you test fit both power cords on both TVs and see if the locking mechanisms work properly on both TVs and to ensure that both power cords can be pushed in far enough to make proper contact. The blade pattern on both looks to be the standard PC style.
post #2978 of 9028
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Originally Posted by wattheF View Post

What HD channels can you get with a antenna? Just regular/local or more?
I watch alot of sports on NESN and ESPN etc.

I get ABC, CBS, FOX, NBC, CW, PBS and independents. Also all the subchannels.
post #2979 of 9028
My 65" is finally here and being delivered in an hour. What preset mode and settings are you guys/gals using outta the box for the breakin period?
post #2980 of 9028
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Originally Posted by nucl3arboNg View Post

My 65" is finally here and being delivered in an hour. What preset mode and settings are you guys/gals using outta the box for the breakin period?

Where did you order it from? I am looking at this TV (the GT model) and am going to be getting it from Amazon I think due to their price being so much lower then BB and are reputable.

I worry that during delivery they will lay the TV down or something or something will go wrong.

I look forward to your reply and good luck with the new set tonight bro! smile.gif
post #2981 of 9028
THX Cinema unless very dark movie during day time then THX Brightness.
post #2982 of 9028
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Originally Posted by falconman515 View Post

Where did you order it from? I am looking at this TV (the GT model) and am going to be getting it from Amazon I think due to their price being so much lower then BB and are reputable.
I worry that during delivery they will lay the TV down or something or something will go wrong.
I look forward to your reply and good luck with the new set tonight bro! smile.gif

I ordered mine from Amazon.com and had delivery serive they use provided the best TV delivery experience ever. They carry the TV in for you, unbox it, install the stand, and allow you to connect the cables and make sure the TV works while you are there.

They are about 6 hours late in delivering the TV ( had a poblem the assigned delivery driver being sick ) but other than that it was the best delivery experience ever...
post #2983 of 9028
Got my 60 inch GT from amazon 2 days ago before they start charging tax............what i can report i have no buzzing. Picture is amazing, but i am afraid of image retention so i am considering returning it for the Samsung pne7000 which is said to have very little retention problem. Its a nice tv but image retention is not allowing consumers to enjoy their tv to the fullest. I wish Panasonic could put some real research into getting rid of the pesky problem. Samsung seem to be getting a handle on this problem. I think no matter how good your picture quality is............the whole IR thing get the average Joe like me very scared, and thats why this is my first time owning plasma. I currently own 3 led lcd tv and never had to worry about IR,
post #2984 of 9028
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Originally Posted by bullpuss View Post

Got my 60 inch GT from amazon 2 days ago before they start charging tax............what i can report i have no buzzing. Picture is amazing, but i am afraid of image retention so i am considering returning it for the Samsung pne7000 which is said to have very little retention problem. Its a nice tv but image retention is not allowing consumers to enjoy their tv to the fullest. I wish Panasonic could put some real research into getting rid of the pesky problem. Samsung seem to be getting a handle on this problem. I think no matter how good your picture quality is............the whole IR thing get the average Joe like me very scared, and thats why this is my first time owning plasma. I currently own 3 led lcd tv and never had to worry about IR,

Have you experienced any Image Retention?
post #2985 of 9028
Just a small logo from WETA kids channel, but its almost faded completely now......................thus this is what scared me so much as a first time plasma owner.
post #2986 of 9028
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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

That's why people use back lighting with flat panel displays. wink.gif

Yes, bias lighting in back of the tv is the way to go. The blacks on my GT50 look pitch black when i have the backlights on. If i shut them off I notice the blacks are not perfect.

Any one that hasn't already done so, i highly suggest you visit Ikea to purchase some LED lights to install behind the TV.
post #2987 of 9028
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Originally Posted by BriscoCountyJr View Post

Here is a link to a recent CNET review of the 2012 Universal 3D bluetooth glasses:
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-33199_7-57441520-221/sorta-universal-active-3d-tv-glasses-compared/?part=rss&subj=news&tag=title
Yes the new cheaper Samsung 3D model glasses work on the 2012 Panasonic 3D plasma TVs, the styling is a bit cheaper and use a replacement coin battery instead of the internal USB rechargeable Panasonic glasses.
The plasma 3D sets all use active 3D glasses, so they need a communication link to the TV to synchronize with the left and right images that are displayed rapidly in succession.
This year the 2012 models use bluetooth for that communication to the TV, the 2010-2011 Panasonic models used infared instead, so the older Panasonic glasses are incompatible with the 2012 active 3D models.

Thanks for the info. Do you think it's better to just buy the Panasonic glasses?
post #2988 of 9028
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Originally Posted by TheGloucesterman View Post

While it's good to know that many don't seem to be bothered by the buzzing, I suspect the problem is quite widespread.
For those doing the "buzz test," how many of you are putting on bright content (e.g. a white slide) and keeping volume down?
When watching normal content (e.g. a movie), the overall mix of bright/dark material usually tempers the buzz and audio, of course, also covers it up.
FWIW -- my two ST50s came from Amazon and were February and April builds. My GT50 came from Bestbuy and is a March build.

Anyone else find it sorta ironic that the current Panasonic Blu-Ray players (at least the BDT500 model I have) uses a white background on the main menu screen? Makes my GT50 buzz! I wish I could change that white color to blue or black since I've learned to live with the buzz but certainly don't need to be reminded of it so often...
post #2989 of 9028
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Originally Posted by bullpuss View Post

Got my 60 inch GT from amazon 2 days ago before they start charging tax............what i can report i have no buzzing. Picture is amazing, but i am afraid of image retention so i am considering returning it for the Samsung pne7000 which is said to have very little retention problem. Its a nice tv but image retention is not allowing consumers to enjoy their tv to the fullest. I wish Panasonic could put some real research into getting rid of the pesky problem. Samsung seem to be getting a handle on this problem. I think no matter how good your picture quality is............the whole IR thing get the average Joe like me very scared, and thats why this is my first time owning plasma. I currently own 3 led lcd tv and never had to worry about IR,

Hello,
If you are honestly this concerned about this, why go half measures and get an LED Backighted LCD? While the Samsung PDP might be less prone to IR, that does not mean it cannot get IR. At least with an LCD, you will not have to worry about it at all. For what its worth, I have had mine for 6 days and have not experienced any IR.
Cheers,
AD
post #2990 of 9028
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Originally Posted by wattheF View Post

Yes, bias lighting in back of the tv is the way to go. The blacks on my GT50 look pitch black when i have the backlights on. If i shut them off I notice the blacks are not perfect.
Any one that hasn't already done so, i highly suggest you visit Ikea to purchase some LED lights to install behind the TV.

Yes, I agree. Backlighting brings out a great deal of color as well... Amazon.com has a complete LED strip set up in the low $30 range that works great ( comes with on/off switch, etc. ).
post #2991 of 9028
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Originally Posted by tonydeluce View Post

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Originally Posted by wattheF View Post

Yes, bias lighting in back of the tv is the way to go. The blacks on my GT50 look pitch black when i have the backlights on. If i shut them off I notice the blacks are not perfect.
Any one that hasn't already done so, i highly suggest you visit Ikea to purchase some LED lights to install behind the TV.

Yes, I agree. Backlighting brings out a great deal of color as well... Amazon.com has a complete LED strip set up in the low $30 range that works great ( comes with on/off switch, etc. ).

You have to be careful that the white LEDs you get don't have a "too blue" color temp, or the whites on your GT50 will look dirty/too warm.

This is why they make special d65 Florescent bulbs for backlighting. The ideal situation would be an RGB LED array that can be tuned to produce d65 light.
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Its not like i am dissing Panasonic in no way, because i have stated picture quality is very good, but if i was the only one worried about IR then that would be bias of me. So please check the many, many post on it in this forum before you start acting as if i hate Panasonic. Whether people buy led or plasma is their choice and this forum was created for all to post their views and nothing else. AS it was stated even in heaven man will find some excuse to complain, so all this does is drive big companies to take notice of what consumers want. The GT is very nice and as i stated my only worry is IR, because i have no buzzing problem or washed colors.
post #2993 of 9028
Hello,
I do not think anyone is saying you hate Panasonics or for that matter cares if you do. Rather, if IR is something that is causing you concern, an LCD Panel really might make more sense. Especially if your room has lots of ambient light, an LCD makes even more sense.
post #2994 of 9028
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Originally Posted by WiFi-Spy View Post

You have to be careful that the white LEDs you get don't have a "too blue" color temp, or the whites on your GT50 will look dirty/too warm.
This is why they make special d65 Florescent bulbs for backlighting. The ideal situation would be an RGB LED array that can be tuned to produce d65 light.

You are correct. If you search with 'LED Backlight Kit for 46"-57" TV LCD Flatscreen (Table Mount)' on Amazon.com you will see exactly what I am using..

I also mounted in the middle of the back of the TV ( the strip right between all of the air ducts ) as this gave better results than the lower portion of TV ( I used scotch tape to find optimal placement )....

Hugh improvement with black level, contrast, and colors not to mention much less eye strain than watching in pitch black environment...
post #2995 of 9028
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Originally Posted by bullpuss View Post

... check the many, many post on it in this forum before you start acting as if i hate Panasonic. ... .

I have followed this thread for way too long rolleyes.gif Fear of IR is far far far far far greater than the occurance of IR. If you are hard-core gamer you may get some IR on every plasma screen ever made. Otherwise, probably not. Even if you do get some IR, you won't be able to see it unless you start viewing those goofy color screens some people like to watch rather than real video content.

There has NOT been a single post made here about permanent IR. 2 or 3 reports out of 3000 posts indicating short term minor IR that faded away is all thats actually here. Lots of questions and fearful new owner concerns about IR have been voiced but paranoia isn't a panel defect biggrin.gif
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Originally Posted by tpollagi View Post

I have followed this thread for way too long rolleyes.gif Fear of IR is far far far far far greater than the occurance of IR. If you are hard-core gamer you may get some IR on every plasma screen ever made. Otherwise, probably not. Even if you do get some IR, you won't be able to see it unless you start viewing those goofy color screens some people like to watch rather than real video content.
There has NOT been a single post made here about permanent IR. 2 or 3 reports out of 3000 posts indicating short term minor IR that faded away is all thats actually here. Lots of questions and fearful new owner concerns about IR have been voiced but paranoia isn't a panel defect biggrin.gif


Couldn't of said it better myself Tpollagi. wink.gif
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Originally Posted by wattheF View Post

Yes, bias lighting in back of the tv is the way to go. The blacks on my GT50 look pitch black when i have the backlights on. If i shut them off I notice the blacks are not perfect.
Any one that hasn't already done so, i highly suggest you visit Ikea to purchase some LED lights to install behind the TV.

I own 4 strips of LED lights I used to use on my LCD. I was curious how many strips to put on my 55 inch. Top, bottom,and both sides or do you think that would be too much? I can adjust the color on mine.
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Originally Posted by melio111 View Post

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Originally Posted by wattheF View Post

Yes, bias lighting in back of the tv is the way to go. The blacks on my GT50 look pitch black when i have the backlights on. If i shut them off I notice the blacks are not perfect.
Any one that hasn't already done so, i highly suggest you visit Ikea to purchase some LED lights to install behind the TV.

I own 4 strips of LED lights I used to use on my LCD. I was curious how many strips to put on my 55 inch. Top, bottom,and both sides or do you think that would be too much? I can adjust the color on mine.
You should aim for less than 10% of the maximum brightness produced by your display. Dim in other words. smile.gif
post #2999 of 9028
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Originally Posted by Audiodork View Post

Hello,
I purchased a 60GT50 6 days ago and so far IR has not been an issue in any way. I did not use Color Slides, but did use 16:9 Source Material exclusively for the first 100 hours. Since then, I have used it no differently than I used the Sony LCD that proceeded it. As for Gaming, I have cut back a great deal. That being said, the almost total lack of Input Lag compared to my Sony is astonishing.
I would be careful about not using torch modes whilst gaming. I can only say that there are many plasma owners who play games extensively with no issue. I would recommend using the "Search this Thread" at the top of the page to whittle down the posts from 99 Pages. Them enter in something like GT50 and Gaming or PS3/360 to see owner experiences. Good luck with whatever decision you decide.
Cheers,
JJ

Thanks for the reply.

I pulled the trigger tonight and it will be delivered monday.
Could of had it friday by ordering last night but had some concearns using the amazon store card and getting 24 month free financing.
Price was $100 more than my limit and even know i got them to price match Pauls TV to get another $100 off, that wouldnt be applied till after purchase.
Wound up purchasing a amazon gift card for myself and applied that to purchase to get the TV under my store card limit.

Oh well, gives me the weekend to get the room ready for the new TV.

Now i need to purchase my 1st Surround sound setup. have always just used TV speakers or hooked up to a cheap stereo system.

Anyone have any suggestions for a decent 5.1 blu-ray Home theater setup that would go well with this TV?
Not looking to spend a fortune and my room is small so just want something to give me a better audio experience.
Is there anything decent out there for under $300? I'm assuming I should also stick with a Panny Home theater setup too?
post #3000 of 9028
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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

You should aim for less than 10% of the maximum brightness produced by your display. Dim in other words. smile.gif


Would a single 1ft strip in the middle of my display be too dim?
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