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post #3901 of 9042
10/2/12 at 1:40pm
Hello,
I had a Darbee DVP connected to my 60GT50 for a few weeks and I just do not think the juice is worth the squeeze. While there was some source material where it provided a pleasing effect, I was never blown away. Another thing that was frustrating was that ARC (Audio Return Channel) would not work being connected between my AVR/SSP HDMI Output and the GT50's ARC Input.

Needless to say, the DVP has received rave professional reviews and consumer reviews. I am sure the forthcoming $1600 uber Darbee will sell quite well too.
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post #3902 of 9042
10/2/12 at 2:06pm
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Originally Posted by dzt41j View Post

OK, if you believe all these reviewers then you are saying the st50 is not only better then any Samsung, but also better than the VT and GT50's!
And I never said the Samsungs are better then the VT50, I think the VT is top of the class. I am saying the e7000 is imho better then the gt due to pq and ir resistance. To me there is no way the GT is worth spending more on then the e7000, especially if you have to spend another $350 on a darby.
You seem to be looking for arguments by continuously posting comments about this, I am not trolling here and I am not going to 'argue' with you anymore.

Good. They are both good tvs, enough already. All that realy matters is what you like and not anyone else.
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post #3903 of 9042
10/2/12 at 4:30pm
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Originally Posted by dzt41j View Post

OK, if you believe all these reviewers then you are saying the st50 is not only better then any Samsung, but also better than the VT and GT50's!
And I never said the Samsungs are better then the VT50, I think the VT is top of the class. I am saying the e7000 is imho better then the gt due to pq and ir resistance. To me there is no way the GT is worth spending more on then the e7000, especially if you have to spend another $350 on a darby.
You seem to be looking for arguments by continuously posting comments about this, I am not trolling here and I am not going to 'argue' with you anymore.

To all potential buyers out there - do not listen to this guy. You DO NOT need a Darby with the gt50. He is trying to make himself feel better about purchasing a clearly inferior TV and is likely outside his return window.
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post #3904 of 9042
10/2/12 at 4:34pm
So I've had my 60gt50 for a few weeks now and I have run into a problem I can't seem to understand. I am feeding the tv a 1080/24p signal from my blu-ray player. In the picture settings under 24p i can choose 48hz or 60hz for the frame rate, but the 3:2 is greyed out. Shouldn't the 3:2 be selectable if the tv is receiving a 24p signal.

Maybe I don't understand what's going on but if it is getting a 24p signal and I have it set at 60hz doesn't it have to be doing a 3:2 pulldown or am I missing something?
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post #3905 of 9042
10/2/12 at 4:49pm
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Originally Posted by dad0118 View Post

To all potential buyers out there - do not listen to this guy. You DO NOT need a Darby with the gt50. He is trying to make himself feel better about purchasing a clearly inferior TV and is likely outside his return window.

I actually prefer my e7000 over the gt50 I returned. Tv's are very subjective, and to call the Samsung "clearly inferior" is incorrect. All tvs have their issues, but pq is most important imo. The picture on the gt50 was so blah unless watching blu ray, which to me actually looked like SOE after awhile. I was advised by others to purchase the darbee to fix the pq issue. PQ should be good to go without added accessories with tv's in this price range. Again this is all my opinion, and I am very happy with my "clearly inferior" product.

Btw, not trolling. I guess I never unsubscribed to this thread after returning my gt, and this was the first post I've received notice of in several weeks....in case anyone wanted to throw the troll name at me.
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post #3906 of 9042
10/2/12 at 5:47pm
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Originally Posted by ERIK2173 View Post

So I've had my 60gt50 for a few weeks now and I have run into a problem I can't seem to understand. I am feeding the tv a 1080/24p signal from my blu-ray player. In the picture settings under 24p i can choose 48hz or 60hz for the frame rate, but the 3:2 is greyed out. Shouldn't the 3:2 be selectable if the tv is receiving a 24p signal.
Maybe I don't understand what's going on but if it is getting a 24p signal and I have it set at 60hz doesn't it have to be doing a 3:2 pulldown or am I missing something?

3:2 is a technique for converting interlaced video for display on a progressive display. A 1080p signal is already "p" (progressive) and doesn't need any frame / field / time re-integration so 3:2 no longer has any meaning or utility for progressive video. This option will run if you have an interlaced video signal like 480i or 1080i headed into the TV that hasn't already been de-interlaced before it gets there.
Edited by tpollagi - 10/2/12 at 5:56pm
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post #3907 of 9042
10/2/12 at 6:10pm
Cdub5 has side by side pics of the gt and e7000,,,,SPeaking of pictures ,,ANyne can tell me how to post pics to a threat...I got some pics I wana share..thanks
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post #3908 of 9042
10/2/12 at 6:14pm
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Originally Posted by tpollagi View Post

3:2 is a technique for converting interlaced video for display on a progressive display. A 1080p signal is already "p" (progressive) and doesn't need any frame / field / time re-integration so 3:2 no longer has any meaning or utility for progressive video. This option will run if you have an interlaced video signal like 480i or 1080i headed into the TV that hasn't already been de-interlaced before it gets there.

I thought that 3:2 was also how a 24 frames per second image was converted to a 60 frames per second image. Is there a name for that conversion?
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post #3909 of 9042
10/2/12 at 6:58pm
Does anyone know why the CNET picture settings have sharpness set to zero? All other modes by default are 50 and above. I have a 65" what changes should I make to the cnet settings? Thanks
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post #3910 of 9042
10/2/12 at 7:19pm
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Originally Posted by ERIK2173 View Post

I thought that 3:2 was also how a 24 frames per second image was converted to a 60 frames per second image. Is there a name for that conversion?

The version of 24p that the Panasonic has, in the example I saw, looks like they are doubling the 24 frames a second instead of actually displaying at 24p. So yeah, vs making 60 frames out of 24 would look more stuttered than 48 out of 24, but still. My 2008 TV actually says it displays 24p. Maybe because its a LED and 24p in a plasma would cause flicker?
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post #3911 of 9042
10/2/12 at 7:19pm
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Originally Posted by size14d View Post

Anyway. Getting my GT50 on Wed.. Should I be concerned with watching RedZone on Sunday for 8 hours with its scrolling bottom bar?
I used our plasma for a few hundred hours before we watched anything with a fixed image for more than an hour or two. After that, I've watched all the NFL games that I was interested in watching without problems.

You might get IR if you put eight hours of the same fixed image on your display during your first weekend. Remember that IR is temporary, so if you don't freak out and start constantly checking for IR, you should be fine.

Watching RedZone is like baking a chocolate cake, making the frosting, and then throwing out the cake, followed by eating the frosting. eek.gif
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post #3912 of 9042
10/2/12 at 7:25pm
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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

I used our plasma for a few hundred hours before we watched anything with a fixed image for more than an hour or two. After that, I've watched all the NFL games that I was interested in watching without problems.
You might get IR if you put eight hours of the same fixed image on your display during your first weekend. Remember that IR is temporary, so if you don't freak out and start constantly checking for IR, you should be fine.
Watching RedZone is like baking a chocolate cake, making the frosting, and then throwing out the cake, followed by eating the frosting. eek.gif

My Bucs aren't playing so I can take a holiday this weekend. And I don't throw out the cake. I have NFL Rewind and have one of my TVs connected to my laptop via HDMI. During the week, I go back and watch the more interesting games. Its a little more than 10% of the cost of Sunday Ticket and the 4.5 mbps feed isn't bad at all. NFL Rewind also has condensed mode, like they show for the game of the week on the NFL channel, so I have that choice too. cool.gif
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post #3913 of 9042
10/2/12 at 7:27pm
Hi,

I just got my new 60" GT50 a week ago and I am having a problem with the CinemaNow app. I am in Canada and I never enrolled for the service just to give you some background.

Now, when I turned the TV on for the first time and connected to the internet it asked me to update the software to the latest version, which I did. All other apps are working fine but when I click on CinemaNow it displays the blue circle for a few seconds and then says the app is having technical problems (error -6012). I can retry all day but that all it says and it never connects to the service at all.

I called CinemaNow and they said it is Panasonic's problem. I called Panasonic and they say if other apps are working fine than it must be a problem with CinemaNow....

any suggestions on what could be the issue?
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post #3914 of 9042
10/2/12 at 7:45pm
I read in some forum that a firmware update caused crosstalk issues with the 3D that wasn't seen with the firmware they got with the TV. Is there an issue where I shouldn't update the firmware?
Edited by size14d - 10/2/12 at 9:19pm
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post #3915 of 9042
10/3/12 at 4:52am
I have the latest update and there are no 3-D issues.
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post #3916 of 9042
10/3/12 at 6:17am
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Originally Posted by jamesm1 View Post

I have the latest update and there are no 3-D issues.

Thanks for the reply. I think I read it on the Amazon page for the glasses, but I've been reading so much at different places, lol.

TV delivery between 9:30 and 11:30 today! biggrin.gif Got my movies out to watch, Good, Bad, and the Ugly, Fist Full of Dollars, the new Wolfman, the new King Kong and for when my daughter comes home from school, one of her favorite movies, the new Star Trek. Also Thor 3D and IMAX Under The Sea 3D to test out how that looks. Went ahead and got a digital to analog converter so I can use my Ultrasone HFI 780 surround headphones after everyone is asleep, lol.
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post #3917 of 9042
10/3/12 at 7:08am
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Originally Posted by Cev214 View Post

Why a darbee? I never knew what that was until I saw half of the people on this thread needed to buy one...

HALF the people on this thread? That's a gross exaggeration. And nobody NEEDS a Darbee, but it definitely improves the depth of field on every brand and model of TV and Projector that it's used on, including Samsung Plasmas so it's not just a Panasonic thing. I've tried my Darbee on all three of my Plasmas, on two of my LCD TVs, on a friend's Samsung, and also on my pal's 60" Pioneer Kuro and it improves the image on all of them. There are people in the Darbee thread that installed one on their $10,000+ Projectors and report improvements, just as virtually everybody else in that thread. In my case, it improved the quality of softer 720p content which is the only complaint i had about my GT50. Just like grippy summer tires improves the handling of a new M3 and a push-up bra improves the look of a 23 year old's already perky rack, a Darbee improves the image quality of any HD TV.

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the gt is an amazing unit, although to me and other websites such as digital trends..television info...agree that the Sammy is better overall.. OVERALL!!!!!!

Who the heck is Digital Trends? What kind of authoritative expertise do they have when it comes to Plasma TVs? Post the link to whatever you read. The Samsung does do a few things better (720p content looks crisper etc), but it's not an overall better TV.

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They don't pick the best tv just kuz it has a slightly better black level displayed on a checkerboard!!!!

The Panasonic's black levels aren't just "slightly better on a checkerboard", they're WAY better on actual content and as measured on a meter and it's very obvious to the naked eye. And Panasonic's contrast ratio is far higher than Samsung's and it's been measured by the best calibrators on the business. The VT50's black level and contrast ratio killed the E8000 at the big HDTV shootout, and the black levels on both brand's lower models are practically the same as on the flagships.

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Digital trends also said the e6500 had a better black level than the st50....YIkes..eek.gif

Well if Digital Trends said that then that shows that they don't know what they're talking about because Samsung's black levels measure considerably higher than Panasonics. This has already been proven.
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post #3918 of 9042
10/3/12 at 10:45am
Hello guys, i have an IR of horizontal line from a blu ray (It's not letterbox) , and i always use zoom to watch tv...and full screen material but it doesn't dissapear. What should i do to dissapear the IR Quickly?

1. Running IR scrolling bar (In Perú's Panasonic, this feature doesn't stop).
2. Watching Content Full Screen (I already did but i want to remove it quickly).
3. Running a 100% White Image 1080p.
4. A no signal channel.

Thanks for your anwers, sorry for my english smile.gif

ps: if i have to run one option 24/48/72 hours or a week, it doesn't bother me at all.
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post #3919 of 9042
10/3/12 at 11:11am
Man, I remember the days on AVSForum when an owners thread had a lot of great owner pictures, where are all the pictures!!! I read through 131 pages, most of them being garbage video-game complainers and IR propoganda, and didn't see nearly enough actual owners. Comon, show off some 65 inch GTs.
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post #3920 of 9042
10/3/12 at 11:29am
I have a 60" gt50 post photos some pages behind...this week i finally have a Cam to take pictures...obviusly i will put some pictures here...some advice because this is NOT a Propaganda of IR...it's IR...i know and hope it fades away...in Perú it cost me too much the tv (to see a Burn-in)...that's what i need some advice...on my returning Samsung D550 (10 months) i don't notice IR at all...but fluctuating brightness was a deal breaker...and obviusly this tv is superior in every single feature...

In Perú we don't have samsung series 5 to 8 on plasma tv...all is LED...always LED...Only Panasonic has all the Plasma on our market but not all the sizes.
Edited by agkss - 10/3/12 at 11:36am
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post #3921 of 9042
10/3/12 at 11:54am
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Originally Posted by CAGE RATTLER View Post

Has anyone tried to connect a usb wireless mouse to the GT50 to use with the web browser? (curser buttons just arent cutting it)
Been looking for how to set this up but cant find any info.

Can anyone answer this?
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post #3922 of 9042
10/3/12 at 1:17pm
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Can anyone answer this?
It doesn't support a mouse. Just a keyboard.
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post #3923 of 9042
10/3/12 at 1:48pm
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Originally Posted by jamesm1 View Post

I have the latest update and there are no 3-D issues.

Can you test this picture? I wanted to attach the file but MPO files are not supported.

You'll see crosstalk (or ghosting) with girls bright hairs in the dark spot just left. The left eye image leak in the right eye, closing your left eye will clearly show the problem.

I tried in different settings, even THX-Cinema, and it's still visible.

BTW this don't happen at all on my computer LCD screen also using active shutter glasses.
Edited by Rhialto - 12/15/12 at 7:26am
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post #3924 of 9042
10/3/12 at 6:31pm
First, let me say I absolutely love my Panasonic Viera P55GT50. I have never owned a plasma, and I come from a three year old $900 Samsung LCD. I am astounded by this thing. There is one thing I have noticed and would love your help. I have searched online, called Best Buy, Geek Squad, Panasonic, and... here I am.

I have noticed on my GT50 that there are discolored pixels on the vertical side edges of the display. On the left edge, for one pixel width only, running vertically from top to bottom, it is a magenta color. On the right, yellow. Again, for only one pixel width, running vertically from top to bottom. At the very edge. As you'd imagine, it is not visible from my sofa. My concern is that it is a defect and will worsen over time. As a side note, I sent the first GT50 back. The second one that I currently have from day one had the same exact issue as the first.

Is this a defective unit? Please advise.

This is copied and pasted from past emails. I apologize for how wordy it is. But your help is greatly appreciated!
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post #3925 of 9042
10/3/12 at 8:52pm
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Originally Posted by metalheadwillie View Post

First, let me say I absolutely love my Panasonic Viera P55GT50. I have never owned a plasma, and I come from a three year old $900 Samsung LCD. I am astounded by this thing. There is one thing I have noticed and would love your help. I have searched online, called Best Buy, Geek Squad, Panasonic, and... here I am.
I have noticed on my GT50 that there are discolored pixels on the vertical side edges of the display. On the left edge, for one pixel width only, running vertically from top to bottom, it is a magenta color. On the right, yellow. Again, for only one pixel width, running vertically from top to bottom. At the very edge. As you'd imagine, it is not visible from my sofa. My concern is that it is a defect and will worsen over time. As a side note, I sent the first GT50 back. The second one that I currently have from day one had the same exact issue as the first.
Is this a defective unit? Please advise.
This is copied and pasted from past emails. I apologize for how wordy it is. But your help is greatly appreciated!

If you're seeing it with regular material, on all channels & with blu-ray, then exchange the set. If you're running slides then wait until you are done.
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post #3926 of 9042
10/3/12 at 9:05pm
This is normal. I see it on my 65st50, 60 gt and 5 year old 600u. Its only visible from a foot or two away and completely normal. I asked the same question here months ago.
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post #3927 of 9042
10/3/12 at 9:13pm
It is with all sources. I am not running slides as I find the picture great with THX Cinema. I have tested the CNET settings and was floored even further. If I become neurotic about it enough, I'll just have it professionally calibrated. However, it is just a TV, and for just that... I LOVE IT.

I received a couple private messages from members saying that they have the same issue (thank you guys!!), so I will accept it and continue to fall in love. Although.. The Sammy 6500 60" looks appealing at about the same price. I got a pretty decent deal on mine for $1599.99. Anyways, any other opinions are welcome! Please!

By the way, this is my second set because I sent the other one back for the EXACT same issue. The second one told me that it may just be a part of the construction.

Glad to be a part of the community! Thanks guys!
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post #3928 of 9042
10/3/12 at 9:13pm
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Originally Posted by sheshechic View Post

If you're seeing it with regular material, on all channels & with blu-ray, then exchange the set. If you're running slides then wait until you are done.

I do believe this is deemed to be "edge discoloration" and I notice this too on my GT50. At least with LCDs and CRTs the cause of this is stated to be crosstalk between sub-pixels and is noticeable on the edges of the display area. I am definitely not technical enough to argue the minutiae of this but I do believe that what the poster is referring to may not be all that rare and this issue is minimized (but not necessarily avoided) by the configuration of the black mask over the edge columns of pixels.
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post #3929 of 9042
10/3/12 at 10:37pm
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Originally Posted by Dry Bones View Post

Man, I remember the days on AVSForum when an owners thread had a lot of great owner pictures, where are all the pictures!!! I read through 131 pages, most of them being garbage video-game complainers and IR propoganda, and didn't see nearly enough actual owners. Comon, show off some 65 inch GTs.

Just thought I would post these since they were requested!! Enjoy!







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post #3930 of 9042
10/4/12 at 12:40am
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Originally Posted by Dry Bones View Post

Man, I remember the days on AVSForum when an owners thread had a lot of great owner pictures, where are all the pictures!!! I read through 131 pages, most of them being garbage video-game complainers and IR propoganda, and didn't see nearly enough actual owners. Comon, show off some 65 inch GTs.

Just thought I would post these since they were requested!! Enjoy!
I suppose it's like baby pictures. There just is no way to cut down on them, but for the life of me, I don't see the attraction, except for parents and their friends an family. wink.gifbiggrin.gif
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