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post #4021 of 9713
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Can u show me how to post pics to a threat..thanks

Just push the "Image" button in the post editor (4'th button from the right side). Then push the Upload Files button, choose your files, and say OK.
post #4022 of 9713
Having problems with the Apple iPhone app. The TV it finds it ok and I can use the cursor, I can input web addresses but I can't play video on the set or photos. When I do, an exclamation in a yellow triangle briefly pops up. On the TV on the database list its showing the phone but the video and picture folders are empty. Using a Netgear router, N protocol with dual frequencies and no firewall. Any ideas?

Only other issue was that once I was watching in 2D+ streaming content and the auto 3D message popped up several times. That happened once. Tonight watching EPID HD, a movie in 720p, the detected 3D message popped up twice.

Oh and I watched The Creature From The Black Lagoon in 3D tonight, got the UK set earlier this week, WOW WOW WOW.
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post #4024 of 9713
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Originally Posted by tpollagi View Post

Well, you will begin to care about the audio and video formats when you try to play a movie and the TV just says "incompatible format" for some of the most widely used formats available. I can't tell you why 2 of the 3 USB connectors do not work, they should all work.
Regardless of what settings are shipped on your TV, you should have at least one mode that will allow you to change the settings. Specifically which settings are you not able to access ? Panasonic is a Japanese company. I wouldn't be surprised if there are regional differences to work with ATSC, NTSC, PAL, 60 Hz power, 50 Hz power, etc. but not having basic parameters for set-up is odd.
I put a 50% grey screen on the TV and it is completely uniform and has no indication of any IR. My set certainly has no horizontal zebra stripes and visible words like your photo shows. From what I have read about IR, white elements are the primary offenders, color elements don't create IR. So, what you are seeing with white letters giving IR is consistent with other reports from people who see IR.

I'm not worried about formats cause I'll probably use HDD for slideshows only and Music at times. Watching movies will be via Blu ray Player. It only concerns me that HDD is not detected in rest of 2 ports. Will contact Panasonic retarding it.

Asian sets do have professional but they are Different than American settings, Very different in fact, for example my set has no custom option is picture settings. Only normal, dynamic ,Cinema when video is played via usb and THX and Game when video is player via HDMI. Also I can't find C.A.T.S in my set either and many other settings.. I'm only worried about too much IR, blue banding (on grey screen) and non working usb ports.. I've already contacted panasonic waiting for their reply now. Hope I'll get a replacement frown.gif
post #4025 of 9713
This may have been answered so forgive me if so but...

The VT50 has the infinite black pro filter, as opposed to whatever filter the GT50 has that shares with the ST50. What I want to know is if the louvre filter present on the ST/GT models are less aggressive than the VT50? What do I mean? I have a 55VT50 and personally think the filter is so damn aggressive on it that it's working on my nerves. I love the picture but damn I can't play kinect on Xbox because when I stand or jump the picture washes out. I also can't lie on the floor without the picture dimming.

I also have a 42UT50 and this one is perfect no matter where I am in the room, and also results in a punchier picture without the louvre filter IMO. Opinions vary.. and that's mine. So basically can owners tell me if the ST/GT50 filter is like "in between" the UT and VT or is it still going to bother me if I lay on the floor?
post #4026 of 9713
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Originally Posted by PathofNeo View Post

This may have been answered so forgive me if so but...
The VT50 has the infinite black pro filter, as opposed to whatever filter the GT50 has that shares with the ST50. What I want to know is if the louvre filter present on the ST/GT models are less aggressive than the VT50? What do I mean? I have a 55VT50 and personally think the filter is so damn aggressive on it that it's working on my nerves. I love the picture but damn I can't play kinect on Xbox because when I stand or jump the picture washes out. I also can't lie on the floor without the picture dimming.
I also have a 42UT50 and this one is perfect no matter where I am in the room, and also results in a punchier picture without the louvre filter IMO. Opinions vary.. and that's mine. So basically can owners tell me if the ST/GT50 filter is like "in between" the UT and VT or is it still going to bother me if I lay on the floor?

I can only speak for the GT50 and I lay on the floor with my son all the time and the picture does not dim whatsoever or for any angle that is. I don't have Xbox kinect but I do have ps3 and it never washes out either.
post #4027 of 9713
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Originally Posted by PathofNeo View Post

This may have been answered so forgive me if so but...
The VT50 has the infinite black pro filter, as opposed to whatever filter the GT50 has that shares with the ST50. What I want to know is if the louvre filter present on the ST/GT models are less aggressive than the VT50? What do I mean? I have a 55VT50 and personally think the filter is so damn aggressive on it that it's working on my nerves. I love the picture but damn I can't play kinect on Xbox because when I stand or jump the picture washes out. I also can't lie on the floor without the picture dimming.
I also have a 42UT50 and this one is perfect no matter where I am in the room, and also results in a punchier picture without the louvre filter IMO. Opinions vary.. and that's mine. So basically can owners tell me if the ST/GT50 filter is like "in between" the UT and VT or is it still going to bother me if I lay on the floor?
On the ST50 and GT50 the filter does cause loss of contrast (washes out) if you view at an angle above the TV - like standing up close to the TV if its at eye level when viewing from sitting on a couch for example.
Viewing at an angle somewhat below the TV like sitting on the floor doesn't cause the problem since the ST/GT filter appears to be designed to reduce light reflections coming from above not below.
post #4028 of 9713
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Originally Posted by tpollagi View Post

I saw it at first and I almost decided to pack it up. I followed some web advice and just tried to adjust to it; I did. If I actively look for it I can still see it but at this point its 100% gone and the only time I even think about it is after I read posts like yours (thanks tongue.gif). Most people can't see it at all, some people (like me) can see it but have the ability to ignore it, other people (you) just can't tune it out.

I was in the local BB and they had a 50GT50 set up in the middle of the store, not in the home theater section. I stopped to look at it and the picture seemed to be vibrating at a high rate. The image was fine, but the overall impression I had was the image was vibrating. I had not noticed this before on other plasmas. The BB guy said it was due to the overhead lighting. Is this was I was seeing; the pulsating flickering whites issue?

Thanks.
post #4029 of 9713
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Originally Posted by scottrob View Post

I was in the local BB and they had a 50GT50 set up in the middle of the store, not in the home theater section. I stopped to look at it and the picture seemed to be vibrating at a high rate. The image was fine, but the overall impression I had was the image was vibrating. I had not noticed this before on other plasmas. The BB guy said it was due to the overhead lighting. Is this was I was seeing; the pulsating flickering whites issue?
Thanks.

YES, that's it. Fluorescent lights also have a pulsating intensity around 60 Hz. The pulsations from the TV and pulsations from the lights don't play well together and the flicker can be greatly accentuated. But that's only part of the story. The refresh flicker is always present; regardless of there being any fluorescent lights in the room and some people can see it. Its most noticeable in your peripheral vision and hardly detectable in your foveal vision because your brain just deals with it there. Its also much more noticeable on bright scenes (especially white areas) than dark images since the pulsations are brighter.

Its common to all phosphor based displays like plasma, CRT.s, and the old style projection TV's that used CRT "bulbs". CRT computer monitors were the biggest offenders. Worst case environment was an office with fluorescent lights + 60 Hz monitors + office workers looking at bright wihie screens with text. It actually made some people physically ill. This was fixed by producing monitors and graphics cards that used faster and adjustable refresh rates like 72 Hz or 90 Hz. Once you get beyond about 70 Hz very few people can see it. At 90 Hz its beyond human capability although the interplay with external fluorescent lighting can still produce some flicker depending on the decay profile of the phosphors and on and on ...
post #4030 of 9713
hi i have a panny65gt50 plasma and i would like to know if i am watching a 3d bluray dvd should i put the tv on the thx 3d cinema setting. it seems kind of dark . could i put the tv in vivid mode while watching a 3d dvd or will that not work. just trying to make the 3d dvd brighter. any suggestions would be great
post #4031 of 9713
On the GT50 is the VieraConnect content associated with any particular input?
As it is I could not find a way to adjust picture settings when watching an Amazon Prime feed which happened to be particularly dark with too much contrast. I'm thinking there must some way (but I've been wrong before).

Thank you.

Chris
post #4032 of 9713
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by PathofNeo View Post

....The VT50 has the infinite black pro filter, as opposed to whatever filter the GT50 has that shares with the ST50. What I want to know is if the louvre filter present on the ST/GT models are less aggressive than the VT50? What do I mean? I have a 55VT50 and personally think the filter is so damn aggressive on it that it's working on my nerves. I love the picture but damn I can't play kinect on Xbox because when I stand or jump the picture washes out. I also can't lie on the floor without the picture dimming.

The ST50/GT50/VT50 Louvre Filter is separate from the Black Filter. The Louvre Filter is applied to the outer glass, but the Black Filter is basically a sheet of tint applied to the face of the plasma panel itself underneath. The VT50 supposedly uses the exact same Louvre Filter as used on the GT50/ST50, but the Black Filter on the VT50's panel is a bit darker than the one used on the ST50/GT50 which is what gives the VT50 the edge on overall black levels.

The vertical angle darkening effect you're seeing on your VT50 is pretty much the same as on the GT50 since they have the same louvre filter. The bottom of my GT50's screen is 17 inches above the floor and when i lay on the floor about 4 feet away from the screen it does get a little darker (but not to the point that it would bother me), but it's nowhere near as dark as when i look down at the screen from above at similar angles. You could go to a store and look at a GT50 or ST50 from below and confirm this, but i'm virtually positive they'll be pretty much the same.

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I also have a 42UT50 and this one is perfect no matter where I am in the room, and also results in a punchier picture without the louvre filter IMO. Opinions vary.. and that's mine. So basically can owners tell me if the ST/GT50 filter is like "in between" the UT and VT or is it still going to bother me if I lay on the floor?

I'd say the ST50/GT50's louvre filter would behave pretty much the same as on your VT50 so it would bother you just about as much.
post #4033 of 9713
Well, I've had the TV for 5 or 6 months now, and I'm certainly pleased with its performance. However, I have to ask the same question I asked months ago, because it's been nagging me. Bear with me... I realize it isn't a huge deal, but hey.

Setup: 60GT50, connected to pioneer elite vsx-52, connected to comcast motorola 3400 cable box. All components feed into the Pioneer receiver, which outputs to the HDMI1 input on the GT.

Problem: Whenever I turn the TV on or off, the receiver simply shuts off, then about 15 seconds later, it turns back on. Sounds like some sort of HDMI control or 'Viera Connect" issue, but I've turned this off and on in order to try the 'TV' or 'Theater' setting, and have also tried turning the speakers off in the advanced auto settings. I've also gone into the Elite's menu and turned off HDMI control, which shouldn't even be an issue because the HDMI is plugged into HDMI 1 on the tv.

Solution: I have absolutely no idea. Thoughts?
post #4034 of 9713
That was a very informative post Randy. I didn't exactly know what separated the black filter and how it was applied to the VT50. It's interesting and surely nice for those that can benefit.
post #4035 of 9713
Any other good 3d glasses beside the Panasonic ones for the VT50?

Not into the Samsung since they are square and let light in on the side.

Would prefer something shaped like this ( tall and curved on the edges to block light :
post #4036 of 9713
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Originally Posted by scottrob View Post

I was in the local BB and they had a 50GT50 set up in the middle of the store, not in the home theater section. I stopped to look at it and the picture seemed to be vibrating at a high rate. The image was fine, but the overall impression I had was the image was vibrating. I had not noticed this before on other plasmas. The BB guy said it was due to the overhead lighting. Is this was I was seeing; the pulsating flickering whites issue?
Thanks.

Could it be the anti burn in feature? That can be turned off.
post #4037 of 9713
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Originally Posted by adriantrances View Post

Any other good 3d glasses beside the Panasonic ones for the VT50?
Not into the Samsung since they are square and let light in on the side.
Would prefer something shaped like this ( tall and curved on the edges to block light :

The glasses now comply with the Full HD 3D Standard (RF). http://www.fullhd3dglasses.com/ But what I have read, the Panasonic are the best and I have had no issues with mine. They even fast charge, 3 hour charge in 2 minutes in case they run down.


post #4038 of 9713
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Originally Posted by destiny 21 View Post

hi i have a panny65gt50 plasma and i would like to know if i am watching a 3d bluray dvd should i put the tv on the thx 3d cinema setting. it seems kind of dark . could i put the tv in vivid mode while watching a 3d dvd or will that not work. just trying to make the 3d dvd brighter. any suggestions would be great

The glasses become polarized when you watch 3D so you need to be watching in a dark room. You can see this when you turn the glasses on and then put your TV in 3D mode, they darken. During the day I watched Creature From The Black Lagoon in THX Bright Room and it looked great.
post #4039 of 9713
We are enjoying our new 50 GT50. Although we have it only had it a few days, none of the problems often referred to in this thread have arisen. I am amazed how close the settings are, for us, to a three year old VT20 we still have and have had absolutely no problems. The blacks are a little deeper and the sharpness is outstanding although I don't believe the sharpness of the picture, at least to my eyes, is just a little less than the VT 20. I think that will be resolved when the Darbee arrives.

For those who have complained about the brightness, I find that even in our living room with large windows on both sides, this issue is abolutely no problem. It can be very bright if that is what you like.

I am completely satisfied with this set and I'm sure some will say that I am just fortunate to have received a set with no problems so far but I can't help but wonder, as quite a few have said, if some are looking for problems rather than sitting back and enjoying a truly fine tv.
post #4040 of 9713
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Originally Posted by destiny 21 View Post

hi i have a panny65gt50 plasma and i would like to know if i am watching a 3d bluray dvd should i put the tv on the thx 3d cinema setting. it seems kind of dark . could i put the tv in vivid mode while watching a 3d dvd or will that not work. just trying to make the 3d dvd brighter. any suggestions would be great

Just try it and see if you like it better. There is NO requirement that you use any particular setting for any particular purpose. The pre-calibrated settings are simply there as a convenience feature if you choose to use them. They don't necessarily provide the best viewing experience for everyone's personal taste. Some people don't like "reference" settings.

3D using active shutter glasses will remove 50% of the light hitting your eyes. The THX 3D mode increases the overall brightness of the picture to try to help deal with this but the TV just doesn't have the ability to double its brightness. From what I have observed, they bring the brightness up to lighten the bright areas in the picture and they bring the black-level way up so that darker areas in the picture don't completely disappear.

I just watched the 3D version of Immortals. I have no idea what the director intended but the movie is dark, drab, void of color, and had only a subtle 3D effect. I'm still of the opinion that 3D displays are a gimmick; I haven't seen anything on a consumer 3D TV that has changed my mind although I also have to admit that the 2 movies I have are both pretty poor examples.

I have seen 3D in an IMAX theater that was vivid and truly immersive; consumer 3D is more like the View-Master images from the 1940's and later.
post #4041 of 9713
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Originally Posted by jch1 View Post

Well, I've had the TV for 5 or 6 months now, and I'm certainly pleased with its performance. However, I have to ask the same question I asked months ago, because it's been nagging me. Bear with me... I realize it isn't a huge deal, but hey.
Setup: 60GT50, connected to pioneer elite vsx-52, connected to comcast motorola 3400 cable box. All components feed into the Pioneer receiver, which outputs to the HDMI1 input on the GT.
Problem: Whenever I turn the TV on or off, the receiver simply shuts off, then about 15 seconds later, it turns back on. Sounds like some sort of HDMI control or 'Viera Connect" issue, but I've turned this off and on in order to try the 'TV' or 'Theater' setting, and have also tried turning the speakers off in the advanced auto settings. I've also gone into the Elite's menu and turned off HDMI control, which shouldn't even be an issue because the HDMI is plugged into HDMI 1 on the tv.
Solution: I have absolutely no idea. Thoughts?

I remember when you first ask about this. I still have no answer biggrin.gif

All I can add is that there appears to be more going on within HDMI connections than just simple data transfer. I also have odd behavior where my BluRay player changes the audio output it sends to the Receiver depending on whether the TV is on or off. I use the BluRay player for audio disks. When the TV is on, the player outputs "normal" stereo; when the TV is off, the player will only output 96 KHz stereo and disables all the multi-channel sound fields.

There are obviously control functions being sent over HDMI even when there is no reason for them I think in your case there is some change-of-state signal being sent to the receiver for no obvious or desirable reason.
post #4042 of 9713
I two quick questions.

1. Where in the menu is the pixel orbitor feature?
2. Does anyone use biasis lighting with their unit? I was looking at the unit from CinemaQuest and wonder if this is enought for my 65"
post #4043 of 9713
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by factorz View Post

I two quick questions.
1. Where in the menu is the pixel orbitor feature?

It's in the Setup menu > Anti Image Retention > Pixel Orbiter

But the Pixel Orbiter is virtually useless . . . .

Bias Lighting is a whole nuther topic - there are various dedicated threads about it with good info - search around a bit.
post #4044 of 9713
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Originally Posted by factorz View Post

I two quick questions.
1. Where in the menu is the pixel orbitor feature?
2. Does anyone use biasis lighting with their unit? I was looking at the unit from CinemaQuest and wonder if this is enought for my 65"

1. Menu - Setup - Anti-image Retention - Pixel Orbiter

2. Back-lighting can be useful depending on the level of ambient lighting in your room and the color / texturer of the wall behind your set. If you watch the TV in the dark, bias lighting can give the perception of a deeper black level and is beneficial. If you usually have a room light on that is already illuminating the wall behind the panel, it may not do anything. If you have very strong colored walls behind the set, bias lighting can cause problems with color perception.

I don't know what CinemaQuest has so I won't comment on it. To see if you like the effect, put a flashlight behind the panel and maybe use use a sheet of paper as a diffuser. LED strip lighting and in-cabinet style "puck" lights are other options if you are just experimenting with a wall mounted set. The multi-colorLED tape strips are fun for 100's of projects.
post #4045 of 9713
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Originally Posted by jch1 View Post

Well, I've had the TV for 5 or 6 months now, and I'm certainly pleased with its performance. However, I have to ask the same question I asked months ago, because it's been nagging me. Bear with me... I realize it isn't a huge deal, but hey.
Setup: 60GT50, connected to pioneer elite vsx-52, connected to comcast motorola 3400 cable box. All components feed into the Pioneer receiver, which outputs to the HDMI1 input on the GT.
Problem: Whenever I turn the TV on or off, the receiver simply shuts off, then about 15 seconds later, it turns back on. Sounds like some sort of HDMI control or 'Viera Connect" issue, but I've turned this off and on in order to try the 'TV' or 'Theater' setting, and have also tried turning the speakers off in the advanced auto settings. I've also gone into the Elite's menu and turned off HDMI control, which shouldn't even be an issue because the HDMI is plugged into HDMI 1 on the tv.
Solution: I have absolutely no idea. Thoughts?

I noticed the same thing with my setup: 60GT50, connected to Pioneer VSX-1121-K, connected to Comcast Motorola RNG200N. In my experience, the Motorola cable boxes can act a little squirrely with HDMI, especially when connected to a receiver. I read somewhere (might have been the AVS Motorola DCX Series forum, don't remember) that the order you turn the components on/off can help with HDMI issues. The recommended order was to turn on the TV first, then the receiver and finally the cable box. Turn them off in reverse order (cable box first, then receiver and TV last). No problems since I've been doing this.
post #4046 of 9713
Could someone please measure their GT50 55" from top left corner to bottom right corner, including the bezel, and let me know exactly how many inches it is ? I want to know much much larger it is to my 50" G25, given the G25 has a very large bezel.

Thanks in advance.
post #4047 of 9713
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Originally Posted by rmallen View Post

I noticed the same thing with my setup: 60GT50, connected to Pioneer VSX-1121-K, connected to Comcast Motorola RNG200N. In my experience, the Motorola cable boxes can act a little squirrely with HDMI, especially when connected to a receiver. I read somewhere (might have been the AVS Motorola DCX Series forum, don't remember) that the order you turn the components on/off can help with HDMI issues. The recommended order was to turn on the TV first, then the receiver and finally the cable box. Turn them off in reverse order (cable box first, then receiver and TV last). No problems since I've been doing this.

Interesting, thanks for the response. I keep my cable box on pretty much all the time in the event that I want to schedule a recording from away from home. Hmm...
post #4048 of 9713
Well after a three month hiatus without a large screen TV in my house (having had issues with a couple of 60GT50s that I ended up returning) I'm jumping back in. I was all set to get the new Sony 65HX950 LCD but this past weekend I had the chance to see and evaluate one in person and I have to say as much as I wanted to love the TV, I just couldn't make its limited viewing angles work for me. Maybe it was my inner optimism that against all logic thought that perhaps the 65HX950 would have great viewing angles but it was pretty disappointing. Of course not everyone cares about this element but having a large and wide HT room, where only a couple of seats are dead centre, it's an important one for me.

What made things more difficult was the value for money proposition. Here in Canada, unlike our southern counterparts, we have very little competition or any online presence for large discount retailers (like Amazon US), so while the 65HX950 is firmly priced at $6K up here, I was able to comfortably get the 65GT50 for well under HALF that amount. It made my decision somewhat easier knowing that there is no way I could justify paying more than double for the XBR, even with all the drawbacks of a plasma.

Getting it delivered next week and my only hope is that I get a unit that doesn't buzz too loudly, which was the only issue I had with the 60GT50s. The only good thing about having waited a couple of months is that I was able to get the 65GT50 now for what I paid for the 60GT50 in June; an extra 5 inches for free.

Can't wait to get it.
post #4049 of 9713
Just got our 65gt50 and got the 100 hours of slides out of the way. What a great picture. Got to watch my Seahawks beat up on the Pat's. I set the tv to the cnet settings and I noticed a slight tracing during the game. It wasn't during the whole game, just sometimes. Maybe it's just because Brady can still sling that ball. Just thought I would let everyone know how great this picture is.
post #4050 of 9713
Just got our 65gt50 and got the 100 hours of slides out of the way. What a great picture. Got to watch my Seahawks beat up on the Pat's. I set the tv to the cnet settings and I noticed a slight tracing during the game. It wasn't during the whole game, just sometimes. Maybe it's just because Brady can still sling that ball. Just thought I would let everyone know how great this picture is.
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