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post #4081 of 9713
I just tried to put my TV on the wall...

Found two stripped screws in the top locations holding the stand in place. Operation halted until tomorrow. Damn Amazon Ceva installers! I should have inspected them first. Unfortunately I was not here for delivery... they didn't budge a bit and all my screwdrivers slipped on the first attempt. Need to buy a screw extraction set tomorrow. This sucks. Lots of issues with this TV.

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post #4082 of 9713
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Originally Posted by vivatech View Post

I just tried to put my TV on the wall...
Found two stripped screws in the top locations holding the stand in place. Operation halted until tomorrow. Damn Amazon Ceva installers! I should have inspected them first. Unfortunately I was not here for delivery... they didn't budge a bit and all my screwdrivers slipped on the first attempt. Need to buy a screw extraction set tomorrow. This sucks. Lots of issues with this TV.
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Not surprised. They use a power driver to put mine on. They didn't strip any in though but as noted in earlier posts, the screws are on the soft side.


Someone had posted a way to check how many hours the TV has, I can't seem to find that post. Anyone?
post #4083 of 9713
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Originally Posted by size14d View Post

Not surprised. They use a power driver to put mine on. They didn't strip any in though but as noted in earlier posts, the screws are on the soft side.
Someone had posted a way to check how many hours the TV has, I can't seem to find that post. Anyone?

A lot of these power drivers have a variable clutch setup that slips(clicks) at a certain adjustable point. Wrong tool in the wrong hands. When assembling it's best to do it by hand.

Hours post: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1123534/accessing-panasonic-service-menu
post #4084 of 9713
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by vivatech View Post

I just... Found two stripped screws in the top locations holding the stand in place. Operation halted until tomorrow. Damn Amazon Ceva installers! I should have inspected them first. Unfortunately I was not here for delivery... they didn't budge a bit and all my screwdrivers slipped on the first attempt. Need to buy a screw extraction set tomorrow.....

You may not need a screw extractor. Those screw heads are #2 Phillips size (and the metal they're made of is really soft) so If you have a #2 Phillips Screwdriver try pressing it firmly into the screw head and maintain firm pressure while cracking it loose and that may be enough to loosen it. If that doesn't work, try it with a (larger) #3 Phillips Screwdriver. If that doesn't work, i'd try jamming a small flat blade screwdriver into the stripped phillips head and see if you can crack it loose that way. Tap the screwdriver lightly with something to dig the blade into the head and maintain firm pressure. Since they're soft, this may work.

I just looked at the back of my 50GT50 and there is a black plastic shroud covering the stand attachment area - it looks like this shroud can be removed which should give you better access to those stripped screw heads - remove it and you might then be able to grab the screw heads with pliers or small channel locks to crack em loose.

Before you attempt this, you might want to set the TV on it's side and lean it against the wall (protected by a blanket) to take the load off the stand and the screws, then remove the base leaving just the upright plate sticking out of the bottom of the TV.


Previous Post:
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1403635/official-panasonic-gt50-series-discussion-thread-no-street-price-talk/3780#post_22441667


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Edited by RandyWalters - 10/23/12 at 6:58am
post #4085 of 9713
Hello everyone,

Just bought a 55" GT50 because best buy finally displayed a high end TV. There are no TV stores around me that shows off the high end stuff. I am initially pleased with the TV however I have one concern. I have not had a chance to watch the TV at night yet so this may be premature, but it seems that the bottom letter box bar is rather gray. It seems lighter than the top bar. Could this be the daytime ambient light? Should I be patient and watch a movie at night and then see what’s what? This is my first plasma so I am a little anxious. I am not sure what defects to look for. I have had one too many LED's that I had to return so I crossed over. The colors look incredible. Also, I have not run any break in slides yet. I am still debating on that. Thanks.
post #4086 of 9713
Hey guys - this is my first Plasma. I tried a few LG LED/LCD panels but could not deal with the uneven lighting. I have had this TV for a couple weeks and was digging into it and my new receiver today when I noticed the thin black bars on all sides. In other words the picture does not go to the edge of the frame. I can't believe I had not noticed this earlier especially since they are uneven (one side is thicker than the other. Is this just how this Plasma model is or am I missing something? I tried my Dish Hopper settings and adjusted with no fix. I tried the TV screen adjustment settings and no luck. Am I missing something?

post #4087 of 9713
ST30 screen.JPG 3479k .JPG file

Here's a picture of my ST30. At the edge with a flashlight you can barely see the circuit etchings that look like a circuit board, this is normal. You can see the pixels and the little "Y's" that lead up to them.
post #4088 of 9713
Thanks whipit. I can see those but I also have another 1/16th to 1/8th inch black bar beyond those. I also have "bars" at the top and bottom and I don't see circuit etchings there.
post #4089 of 9713
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Originally Posted by angler View Post

Thanks whipit. I can see those but I also have another 1/16th to 1/8th inch black bar beyond those. I also have "bars" at the top and bottom and I don't see circuit etchings there.

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post #4090 of 9713
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Originally Posted by walshfever View Post

Hello everyone,
Just bought a 55" GT50 because best buy finally displayed a high end TV. There are no TV stores around me that shows off the high end stuff. I am initially pleased with the TV however I have one concern. I have not had a chance to watch the TV at night yet so this may be premature, but it seems that the bottom letter box bar is rather gray. It seems lighter than the top bar. Could this be the daytime ambient light? Should I be patient and watch a movie at night and then see what’s what? This is my first plasma so I am a little anxious. I am not sure what defects to look for. I have had one too many LED's that I had to return so I crossed over. The colors look incredible. Also, I have not run any break in slides yet. I am still debating on that. Thanks.

More than likely its the viewing conditions and probably an inaccurate torch mode set-up at the store. The black voids are closer to black on the GT50 than any other TV I have ever seen. If you watch it in a totally dark room you will see that "black" is not quite zero-black. The pre-discharge heating on all plasma TV's produces a very small amount of illumination so "absolute black" will never be achieved. That being said, the GT50 is about as good as the industry has ever produced. With even just minimal room lighting or back lighting black does truly appear black and is indistinguishable from the bezel.

Some letterbox content is not true letterbox format. True letterbox has zero signall in the borders. Some content looks like letterbox but is actually a full 16x9 image with dark borders on the top and bottom. In some cases the borders can be closer to grey than black. You will see that crap on some local OTA broadcast content when they take old 4:3 content and rescale / resize / letterbox / muss it up.

The take away point is that the letterbox borders on normal wide screen content is as black as black gets in the industry (except the VT50 which has a darker filter that dims the entire image all the time)

Also, slides are a waste of time unless you plan on having the set pro-calibrated a few weeks after you get it.
post #4091 of 9713
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Originally Posted by vivatech View Post

I just tried to put my TV on the wall...
Found two stripped screws .... This sucks. Lots of issues with this TV.
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What other issues do you have ? If you really have "lots" of issues why are you trying to put in on the wall instead of back into the box ?

At this point the xT-50 series sales cycle is probably 70% complete. I wouldn't accept anything less than perfection. The xT-70's will be probably be out in a "few" months.
post #4092 of 9713
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Originally Posted by whipit View Post

A lot of these power drivers have a variable clutch setup that slips(clicks) at a certain adjustable point. Wrong tool in the wrong hands. When assembling it's best to do it by hand.
Hours post: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1123534/accessing-panasonic-service-menu

Holding volume down, down and pressing Info did nothing for me. Maybe its a sign, lol. Don't screw with your service menu.
post #4093 of 9713
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Originally Posted by size14d View Post

Holding volume down, down and pressing Info did nothing for me. Maybe its a sign, lol. Don't screw with your service menu.[/quote

It may be...biggrin.gif Did you press vol dn on the tv or the remote? Easy to get that one wrong.
post #4094 of 9713
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Originally Posted by tpollagi View Post

More than likely its the viewing conditions and probably an inaccurate torch mode set-up at the store. The black voids are closer to black on the GT50 than any other TV I have ever seen. If you watch it in a totally dark room you will see that "black" is not quite zero-black. The pre-discharge heating on all plasma TV's produces a very small amount of illumination so "absolute black" will never be achieved. That being said, the GT50 is about as good as the industry has ever produced. With even just minimal room lighting or back lighting black does truly appear black and is indistinguishable from the bezel.
Some letterbox content is not true letterbox format. True letterbox has zero signall in the borders. Some content looks like letterbox but is actually a full 16x9 image with dark borders on the top and bottom. In some cases the borders can be closer to grey than black. You will see that crap on some local OTA broadcast content when they take old 4:3 content and rescale / resize / letterbox / muss it up.
The take away point is that the letterbox borders on normal wide screen content is as black as black gets in the industry (except the VT50 which has a darker filter that dims the entire image all the time)
Also, slides are a waste of time unless you plan on having the set pro-calibrated a few weeks after you get it.


Thank you, and you were right. Once I watched Tron last night the blacks were much better. And I am very happy with this TV. Like I said earlier this is my first plasma and I am hooked. I wish I had a chance to see a quality plasma before because I would not have wasted so much many on LCD's. That being said, I have a couple newbie questions for anyone that wishes to take a stab at them. What is the plasma equivalent to a backlight? I know the technologies are completely different but what I am getting at is what creates the brightness? Basically, with an LCD I could get all the settings the way I wanted it i.e. white balance and color and stuff, and then during the day I could turn up the backlight to compensate for sunlight and then at night I could turn it down for dark room viewing. Is there any way to do that with plasma? The settings I am currently using are from CNET and they look great, but at night some of the scenes are very bright and can be eye straining. Lastly, I am running the slides because I was assuming that aging the screen was a good thing. I am not planning on getting it calibrated. I was going to use either CNET's settings or settings found in this post and just tweak as I saw fit. Should I not be running the slides?
post #4095 of 9713
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Originally Posted by walshfever View Post

Thank you, and you were right. Once I watched Tron last night the blacks were much better. And I am very happy with this TV. Like I said earlier this is my first plasma and I am hooked. I wish I had a chance to see a quality plasma before because I would not have wasted so much many on LCD's. That being said, I have a couple newbie questions for anyone that wishes to take a stab at them. What is the plasma equivalent to a backlight? I know the technologies are completely different but what I am getting at is what creates the brightness? Basically, with an LCD I could get all the settings the way I wanted it i.e. white balance and color and stuff, and then during the day I could turn up the backlight to compensate for sunlight and then at night I could turn it down for dark room viewing. Is there any way to do that with plasma? The settings I am currently using are from CNET and they look great, but at night some of the scenes are very bright and can be eye straining. Lastly, I am running the slides because I was assuming that aging the screen was a good thing. I am not planning on getting it calibrated. I was going to use either CNET's settings or settings found in this post and just tweak as I saw fit. Should I not be running the slides?

Try THX Cinema at night and see if it looks better.
post #4096 of 9713
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Originally Posted by size14d View Post

Holding volume down, down and pressing Info did nothing for me. Maybe its a sign, lol. Don't screw with your service menu.

You have to press info on the remote 3 times within 2 seconds all the time holding volume down on the TV.
post #4097 of 9713
Hi,

I'm totally new to this site and I'm not sure if this is the place to ask, but I'm completely frozen on choosing between the Panasonic 60GT50 and the Samsung LED 60ES7100. I realize there are different technologies but I'm worried about the GT50 (1) Image Retention (2) Buzz and (3) Light reflection. Any thoughts on comparing the 2 TV's and the 3 concerns would be greatly appreciated. Cheers.
post #4098 of 9713
Hi,

I'm totally new to this site and I'm not sure if this is the place to ask, but I'm completely frozen on choosing between the Panasonic 60GT50 and the Samsung LED 60ES7100. I realize there are different technologies but I'm worried about the GT50 (1) Image Retention (2) Buzz and (3) Light reflection. Any thoughts on comparing the 2 TV's and the 3 concerns would be greatly appreciated. Cheers.
post #4099 of 9713
Hey guys I have an external sound system and was adjusting my bass up on my new receiver today. During a certain scene with deep bass tones the back of the TV would vibrate loudly. I have it mounted so I put some foam in some areas between the flimsy back panel and the mount and that helped but I still appear to have an area that vibrates that is not touching anything external so I don't know how to make it go away. Again - my TV are off so they are not creating the issue. It is just picking up the vibrations from my sub woofer which sits right next to it. Anyone else have this issue?
post #4100 of 9713
arahambone,

I have been a long time champion of LED TV’s and I just recently bought my first plasma. It was the 55" GT50 and let me tell you, the GT50 is better. Not to harp on Samsung but I have owned each year’s Samsung LED/LCD since 2008. I have owned the A series all the way up to the ES series. Each one was fouled with flaws and backlight bleeding and clouding. Also, there is banding and Auto Motion Plus does not work correctly. I would highly recommend the Panasonic. I have always read that Panasonic plasmas were great but never gave them a chance. Well, I have one now and I am so glad I bought it. With every other TV I found flaws in the first night of movie watching. This TV is perfect. And in daytime with a lot of light it is still bright and has a depth of color. I cannot say enough how much I would recommend this TV for you. Buzzing seems to be hit or miss and subjective. I don’t have any buzzing with my set. Image retention may or may not still be a concern, I would defer that question to more experienced plasma owners, but that is an easy avoidance. I wanted to give you my recommendation because I have been on both sides of this line. I have owned LED's for a long time now....like, top of the line LED's to include Samsung's 8000 series, and I am more happy now than I ever was before. I am so glad I bought my GT50.
post #4101 of 9713
+1 to walshfever's response. I went through 4 or 5 LED/LCD TV's looking for a good panel and just could not be pleased. I hooked this bad boy up (55" GT50)... calibrated it to CNET's settings and fell in love day one.
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Originally Posted by walshfever View Post

arahambone,
I have been a long time champion of LED TV’s and I just recently bought my first plasma. It was the 55" GT50 and let me tell you, the GT50 is better. Not to harp on Samsung but I have owned each year’s Samsung LED/LCD since 2008. I have owned the A series all the way up to the ES series. Each one was fouled with flaws and backlight bleeding and clouding. Also, there is banding and Auto Motion Plus does not work correctly. I would highly recommend the Panasonic. I have always read that Panasonic plasmas were great but never gave them a chance. Well, I have one now and I am so glad I bought it. With every other TV I found flaws in the first night of movie watching. This TV is perfect. And in daytime with a lot of light it is still bright and has a depth of color. I cannot say enough how much I would recommend this TV for you. Buzzing seems to be hit or miss and subjective. I don’t have any buzzing with my set. Image retention may or may not still be a concern, I would defer that question to more experienced plasma owners, but that is an easy avoidance. I wanted to give you my recommendation because I have been on both sides of this line. I have owned LED's for a long time now....like, top of the line LED's to include Samsung's 8000 series, and I am more happy now than I ever was before. I am so glad I bought my GT50.
post #4102 of 9713
Anyone try the 3d glasses from Monoprice for the gt50?
post #4103 of 9713
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Originally Posted by whipit View Post

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Originally Posted by size14d View Post

Holding volume down, down and pressing Info did nothing for me. Maybe its a sign, lol. Don't screw with your service menu.[/quote
It may be...biggrin.gif Did you press vol dn on the tv or the remote? Easy to get that one wrong.

Wait...there is a volume control on the TV? biggrin.gif
post #4104 of 9713
I must have had great luck with LCD TVs. I really liked all the LCDs I've bought. A series 50 LG, one from Olevia about 6 years ago, and a Mitsubishi with a 10 bit Samsung panel in it. They all had excellent PQ when adjusted properly. I got the Olevia at HH Greg and at the time, it blew away all the other TVs next to it and was half the price. Oh, and my RP CRT Hitachi Ultravision, my first HDTV, was also stunning in PQ, even with its 1080i limitation. That TV will probably last another 15 years.
post #4105 of 9713
It honestly is about luck...at least with the Samsung ones. I cannot speak on LG or Mitsubishi. Clouding and backlight bleed were common issues that I experienced and if watching movies in a dark room is the end goal for a TV buyer, those two issues are extremely annoying. I am glad to discover that the GT50 has excellent picture quality. I am sure that plasmas have their own issues but from where I am sitting it is a great improvement for me and I finally bought a TV that I do not wish to return….
post #4106 of 9713
hi i have a panasonic 65gt50 and i would like to know when watching a 3d bluray when i go into 3d settings i think it says 3d depth should i leave it at 0. it has settings for +3 or -3 for 3d settings.
post #4107 of 9713
Hello all! I've been following this thread for a while now but this is my first post. In regard to the decision between a panasonic gt50 and samsung e7100, I can definetly say panasonic all the way- as I have owned both (50gt50 and pn51e8000.) IMO the panny has a much better pq and the sammy was very gimmicky. I could never seem to get The level of pq with the sammy. I had a gt50, returned it for the sammy, and then returned the sammy for another gt50- long story!
post #4108 of 9713
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Originally Posted by arahambone View Post

Hi,
I'm totally new to this site and I'm not sure if this is the place to ask, but I'm completely frozen on choosing between the Panasonic 60GT50 and the Samsung LED 60ES7100. I realize there are different technologies but I'm worried about the GT50 (1) Image Retention (2) Buzz and (3) Light reflection. Any thoughts on comparing the 2 TV's and the 3 concerns would be greatly appreciated. Cheers.

I went through 3 Samsung's in a year and a half (various issues). Panasonic is much more reliable and we won't even get into PQ because there is no comparison. Unless your a gamer dont worry about IR. The buzz issue is a non issue for me (and most). And unless you have direct sunlight on your screen (in which any TV will look bad) the picture is amazing.

Just buy the GT50 and you won't be dissapointed.
post #4109 of 9713
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Originally Posted by walshfever View Post

It honestly is about luck...at least with the Samsung ones. I cannot speak on LG or Mitsubishi. Clouding and backlight bleed were common issues that I experienced and if watching movies in a dark room is the end goal for a TV buyer, those two issues are extremely annoying. I am glad to discover that the GT50 has excellent picture quality. I am sure that plasmas have their own issues but from where I am sitting it is a great improvement for me and I finally bought a TV that I do not wish to return….

While the 10 bit Samsung panel in my Mitsubishi looked great, it has had issues where it needed to be replaced twice. The second time is why I know have a GT50. PQ was great though.
post #4110 of 9713
OH NO!!!!!

I spoke too soon. I came home tonight to find IR / Burn-in on my GT50. My wife watched one hour of the debate and when I came home to run the slides I can see the borders and the NBC logos everywhere and with every color. URGH. I am so sick of returning TVs. I decided to run the slides over night....am I going to make it worse? I am afraid of adding insult to injury. How can I fix this, will the slides hurt it or help it? I am very happy with the PQ but I don't want to be banned from watching a debate or a football game just because I own this tv.
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