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post #4261 of 9713
I am trying to help a friend calibrate his 60" GT. I've done this on my Panasonic plasma which have RGB high/low setting directly in the user menu. But we can't find such option in his TV. It has a grayed out 'pro' mode and I am not sure how to enable it. I am using an i1 spectro and ColorHCFR.

1) How do I enable the pro mode? which I assume will contain the white balance adjustments?

2) Where can I get the service menu for the 60" GT? I've used the service menu to adjust the white balance before but it was a model a few years back...

3) Does the GT have 2 point (high/low) or 10 point grayscale adjustment? if 10 point, how would one go about adjusting it? (2 point first, then tweak rest?)

BTW, The THX mode on the GT50 appears to be quite good. Not dead on, but delta-E is about 4 as shown in ColorHCFR using my i1 spectro.
post #4262 of 9713
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Originally Posted by tpollagi View Post

BIG box. Will need a truck or full size van. Do NOT transport flat. Highly recommend two people because of the size and weight. If you plan on using the base, attach it so that the TV is level. Also don't overtighten the screws; some people have camed out the screw heads. Slides only needed if paying for a pro-calibration. "Break In" by watching normal full screen content. Some letterbox content is fine but don't overdo it. Same goes for games with fixed white elements. Stretch 4:3 to full screen if viewing for extended times.
Start with the THX Cinema mode until you find your way around the menus then dial in either the C-Net or maybe the other set-up that has been mentioned a few times recently. I may give that a try myself..

Thank you for the reply.
I went to the bb warehouse in bellingham, mass at the crack of dawn this morning. it turned out to be a 25 min drive.
i'm going to unbox it shortly

post #4263 of 9713
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Originally Posted by wildgoose View Post

I am trying to help a friend calibrate his 60" GT. I've done this on my Panasonic plasma which have RGB high/low setting directly in the user menu. But we can't find such option in his TV. It has a grayed out 'pro' mode and I am not sure how to enable it. I am using an i1 spectro and ColorHCFR.
1) How do I enable the pro mode? which I assume will contain the white balance adjustments?
2) Where can I get the service menu for the 60" GT? I've used the service menu to adjust the white balance before but it was a model a few years back...
3) Does the GT have 2 point (high/low) or 10 point grayscale adjustment? if 10 point, how would one go about adjusting it? (2 point first, then tweak rest?)
BTW, The THX mode on the GT50 appears to be quite good. Not dead on, but delta-E is about 4 as shown in ColorHCFR using my i1 spectro.

I don't have all of your answers but if the pro settings are grey'd out you are probably in a "locked" mode like THX Cinema.

Go to the Custom mode and then the RGB Hi/Low adjustments will be available. I don't know if there are are more advanced color control options in the service menu or if you are still getting the 2 point set-up. You should be able to dial in a very good picture without going into the service menu.

ALSO, each of the inputs is independent. You amy not need to calibrate each input but you will need to at least copy the set-up values from your calibration into each input.
post #4264 of 9713
I find it strange that after doing a custom setting and saving it as the default, you have to do it over for each input.
post #4265 of 9713
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Originally Posted by PeterG View Post

I cannot give you a URL to high def junkies but here is a quote of a posting there just last month (the post is dated October 8) and this gives you the topic of the thread:
Re: Best Buy Black Tie Warranty says it covers burn in, any ever return one?

I have dealt with it. My wife was using pandora on ours constantly and it burned the logo. They sent a tech out and tried ordering a new panel but couldn't. So they swapped it out for a new model. Very easy and well worth the money.

Thank you!

Hopefully we won't need it. Our current living room Panasonic Plasma has been 100% reliable for (I think) four years.

Kevin
post #4266 of 9713
My rescheduled 65GT50 delivery happened today. Last week's got canceled due to Hurricane.

And power just restored minutes ago!

How pumped am I???? biggrin.gif
post #4267 of 9713
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by size14d View Post

I find it strange that after doing a custom setting and saving it as the default, you have to do it over for each input.

That's not strange at all. Custom mode is saved differently on each input and this is very useful and is preferable. I wish the THX modes could be saved to individual inputs instead of being global.
post #4268 of 9713
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Originally Posted by RandyWalters View Post

That's not strange at all. Custom mode is saved differently on each input and this is very useful and is preferable. I wish the THX modes could be saved to individual inputs instead of being global.

Oh, wow. I thought all of the modes were per input. Are the THX modes the only global ones or are they all global except for custom?
post #4269 of 9713
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by darkphader View Post

Oh, wow. I thought all of the modes were per input. Are the THX modes the only global ones or are they all global except for custom?

All picture modes are global except for Custom.
post #4270 of 9713
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Originally Posted by tpollagi View Post

Owners have reported everything from dead quiet to load buzzing. Mine is in the dead quiet camp. To me that means its just barely audible on a full white screen in a dead silent room from less than 3 feet away. From my normal viewing position its inaudible in a dead silent room. If you turn on the volume at even a low level (I have mine volume set at 25) the power supply buzz is not detectable unless you stick your head behind the TV. At a volume setting of 25 on the evening news I have measured peaks from speech at about 54 dB at 3 feet from the center of the screen. My SPL meter has a minimum of 50 dB. I have stuck this thing 2 inches away from the top left corner at the rear of the TV on a white screen and it doesn't move the needle.
Most of my viewing is in the evening. I usually have one torchiere floor lamp turned on that gives full room illumination that I can read with. The THX Cinema mode looks nice; deep color saturation, clear whites, and deep blacks with great contrast but I certainly wouldn't want it any brighter. During the daytime, the image is a bit washed out but acceptable. I prefer the C-Net settings but overall the image is similar to THX Cinema. I tried the Black-Ops settings, but its just to bright for me. These may be better in the daytime but for my usual evening viewing, I found them too much. The THX Bright Room mode is just too harsh for anything less than high-noon in a greenhouse biggrin.gif I think they gave us this mode to try give as good as PQ as possible in a semi-torch mode. Game Mode, that's just scary biggrin.gif
I personally have never had much luck with disk set-ups. Even after optimizing the test screens the overall image is usually "not so good" and I end up tweaking the picture back to what looks better. Overall, I'm pretty happy with the C-Net settings with just a little tweaking.

Thanks for the reply, sounds like mine is much louder then yours, I wouldn't have any issues if mine was like you describe. Haven't had alot of time to play with the set but last night I turned it onto Alaska State Troopers & they were outside on a nice sunny day. With the tv in THX Cinema mode (brightness 50, contrast 42), with tv muted in my ~10' ft viewing location I could hear some level of buzzing basically the whole time (so it doesn't even have to be a mostly white/very bright scene for the noise). I switched to standard mode & it was mostly inaudible.

Also wondering, do you typically listen at 25, sounds like this is a low volume for you? On my set 25 seems rather loud, think I may have turned it quickly to 30 or 40 to see how loud it would go but that wasn't what I would consider a resonable listening level. For most programming I'm typically in the 10-15 range, & can have it at 3 or 4 & easily hear it when the house is quiet at night. Was going to use the sound meter when I get a chance to compare, were you measuring in A or C weighted?
post #4271 of 9713
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Originally Posted by HLdan View Post


Haha true for probably many of us. Seems as tech becomes more advanced it becomes more of a headache and many consumers want to dump them for the next model only after 2 years. Where I come from you buy a TV, turn it on, adjust maybe the tint and brightness and then you keep it for at least 10 years.

Moving to today it's more to deal with and this happened to me for the first time last night. I've only owned my 55GT50 for more than a week and I came upstairs and saw my family watching a show on it with Letterbox. I immediately picked up the remote and zoomed the screen. They asked my why and I didn't want to go through explaining it, I just told them it's required during the break-in period.


Sorry to start this comical scenario but this is so relevant to this forum, haha.

HUSBAND: Honey, our new Panasonic Plasma has just arrived!!!

WIFE: Great! Hurry up and set it up our favorite team is about to play on ESPN.

HUSBAND: We can't watch tv for at least 2 weeks, I need to run the slides first.

WIFE: Slides? What slides?

HUSBAND: Oh, the break-in slides so I can apply D-Nice's settings.

WIFE: D-Nice? What's a D-Nice?

HUSBAND: Oh, he's one of the pro-calibrators on AV Science forums.

WIFE: Um, okay.


100 hours have passed.....


WIFE
: Honey, why does every show I watch resemble my daytime drama programs?

HUSBAND: Oh, that's called the Soap Opera Effect:. I can switch that off but I'll have to switch it back on for action shows.

WIFE: Um, okay.


WIFE: Honey, why does the screen flash so much during the hockey game?

HUSBAND: Oh, people on the forums say it's from the fans snapping photos, but it hasn't been confirmed.

WIFE: Um, okay.
Gonna wipe the dirty screen now.

HUSBAND: Oh, the screen isn't "dirty" that's called the Dirty Screen Effect, happens on a white screen like when watching hockey.

WIFE: Hmmm.


HUSBAND: Honey, hold on, I need to zoom the picture to avoid the black bars during your TV show.

WIFE: Why? What's the matter now?


HUSBAND: Oh...well...even though it's past the break-in period the TV might get Image Retention from the black bars.

WIFE: What's Image Retention?

HUSBAND: Image Retention is like faint images of station logos burned into the screen but only temporary......but it could be permanent if we're not careful.


WIFE: Why do I sometimes hear buzzing from the TV?

HUSBAND: Oh, that's because it's been said that Plasma's do that.

WIFE: HUH??


WIFE
:Is this TV defective? I see big horizontal lines during the rating system at the beginning of the movies we watch.

HUSBAND: Oh, that's called line bleed. Seems to be a characteristic of Plasmas.

WIFE: Remind me why we spent over $3000 on this high maintenance paperweight??


HUSBAND: Because it's a great TV!



Sorry, but before and after I bought my GT50 I've learned so many things about Plasmas from AVS that I didn't know existed. I just thought I would collect the majority of the posts on here and sum it up for fun
. If this post needs to be removed then no problem.

Haha. That is a surprisingly good summary of the thread up to this point.

Luckily for me, this display is destined for the Man Cave, er...Man LOFT.

Our empty nest status was just revoked. Our daughter and her family of six are moving in with us "temporarily". This brought my basement home theater construction plans to a screeching halt, just as I was about to begin. After moving all of my gear out of the basement, my darling wife floored me twice, first by suggesting that we use our former master bedroom as a media room, and then by agreeing to a new TV purchase for me instead of buying a cheap TV for the daughter's family to use in the basement.

I think she REALLY wants me to be OK with them moving in with us.

Did I mention that she's a keeper?

Anyway, our GT50 should arrive on the 20th or 21st. Hopefully we'll receive a non-buzzing/smelling unit.

Kevin
post #4272 of 9713
If you had a choice between the Panasonic 55 inch VT and the 60 inch GT at the same price which would you buy? Thanks, Don
post #4273 of 9713
^^^

Definitely the 60GT50. You'll always regret getting the smaller one. I'd say go 65GT50 if the room can accommodate a 65". I was able to get the 65GT50 for not much more than the price of the 55VT50.
post #4274 of 9713
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Originally Posted by donaudio View Post

If you had a choice between the Panasonic 55 inch VT and the 60 inch GT at the same price which would you buy? Thanks, Don

If you don't live alone you better check with your mate. The only reason my wife went along with replacing our 42-inch plasma with a 50-inch model in our bedroom was because the overall dimension was only an inch bigger.
post #4275 of 9713
If I was going to get it calibrated, then the VT.
post #4276 of 9713
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Originally Posted by daren_p View Post

Thanks for the reply, sounds like mine is much louder then yours, I wouldn't have any issues if mine was like you describe. Haven't had alot of time to play with the set but last night I turned it onto Alaska State Troopers & they were outside on a nice sunny day. With the tv in THX Cinema mode (brightness 50, contrast 42), with tv muted in my ~10' ft viewing location I could hear some level of buzzing basically the whole time (so it doesn't even have to be a mostly white/very bright scene for the noise). I switched to standard mode & it was mostly inaudible.
Also wondering, do you typically listen at 25, sounds like this is a low volume for you? On my set 25 seems rather loud, think I may have turned it quickly to 30 or 40 to see how loud it would go but that wasn't what I would consider a resonable listening level. For most programming I'm typically in the 10-15 range, & can have it at 3 or 4 & easily hear it when the house is quiet at night. Was going to use the sound meter when I get a chance to compare, were you measuring in A or C weighted?

My room is pretty big. The TV is in the corner of the "great room" in an open floor plan. From hard wall to hard wall this area is about 25 x 40 with 16 foot ceilings. There is also a lot of soft stuff in there that absorbs sound. At 3-4 I can just tell the sound is on, at 9-10 I can clearly hear dialog. I usually have it at 20-25 depending on the channel and content to overcome the forced air heat/air when it kicks in and several mechanical clocks.

I set the meter for C-weighting. I believe A-weighting will "ignore" everything below 500Hz which would include most of the power supply hum.
post #4277 of 9713
Really like my new 60GT50 especially after using BlackOps nite time setting. This plasma not only looks outstanding on but also when off. biggrin.gif
post #4278 of 9713
I've had my 50 GT 50 about a month now and love it but in the last few days it has started shutting down and on the screen displays "No active shut-off was activated". Seems like in the past I remember something about this but can't seem to locate it. Anyone have any ideas?
post #4279 of 9713
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Originally Posted by RandyWalters View Post


I don't recommend this. Combining all of your sources via an AVR then connecting it all to one HDMI input on the TV forces all of those sources to share the same picture settings that you set up on that one input. My HD Tivo, TWC DVR, and HDMI DVD Player all need their own HDMI input with their own individual picture settings to look their best so i connect them all directly to the TV. Routing everything through my AVR would result in two of them not looking optimal.

Randy,

Thank you so much for posting this. I was about to start shopping for a new AVR, but you made me consider that I might not even want to use my AVR for video switching any more. Of course that may change if my inputs (cabe box, HD-DVD, Blu Ray) happen to look good with the same settings.

I wonder if an automated control system like iRule, Roomie, Red Eye, etc., can be set up to adjust the display settings whenever you change "activities" ("watch cable", "watch Blu Ray", etc.,) My wife already "owes" me that automated control upgrade from a past Fathers' Day gift that didn't get implemented because I needed a more time to research which way we want to go.

I believe that was Fathers' Day 2010. tongue.gif

Kevin
post #4280 of 9713
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Originally Posted by adb View Post

I've had my 50 GT 50 about a month now and love it but in the last few days it has started shutting down and on the screen displays "No active shut-off was activated". Seems like in the past I remember something about this but can't seem to locate it. Anyone have any ideas?

Try going to Menu/Setup/ECO-Energy saving. At "No signal for 10 minutes" choose Stay on. That is the default setting.

I think that may do it.
post #4281 of 9713
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Originally Posted by tom1996 View Post

Try going to Menu/Setup/ECO-Energy saving. At "No signal for 10 minutes" choose Stay on. That is the default setting.
I think that may do it.

Thanks alot. I did that last night and as far as I know it hasn't gone off. Keeping my fingers crossed.
post #4282 of 9713
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Originally Posted by D.T.MIKE View Post

Really like my new 60GT50 especially after using BlackOps nite time setting. This plasma not only looks outstanding on but also when off. biggrin.gif

Congrats, what aquarium software is showing on your plasma?
post #4283 of 9713
adb- that is the auto shutoff if there is no activity w/tv. You can shut it on or off somewhere in the menu and adjust the amount of time before "no activity automatic shutoff" engages.
post #4284 of 9713
I am noticing that image retention becomes much less of an issue as time goes by.
post #4285 of 9713
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Originally Posted by Latinoheat View Post

Congrats, what aquarium software is showing on your plasma?
Thanks, that is one clip from HD SCAPE Sampler Blu-ray. Several good clips on that DVD such as Fireplace and Antarctica that can be run on a loop with or without audio.
post #4286 of 9713
I was just wondering if its better to run the scroll bar to get rid of the IR or just wait for it to naturally go away? im so mad because last night i fell asleep and left my tv and apple tv on and for some reason my apple tv didnt go to screen saver so when i woke up i had a little IR.
post #4287 of 9713
The 60 inch is in the house. Best Buy delivered quickly and efficiently. I was actually impressed with their service which surprised me as I have had issues in the distant past.

I am no videophile but this thing is pure wondrous beauty. I do love it.

There is no noticeable buzzing...cool.
The internet and apps are usable, but clunky. I think you would be better off with a different device, but again it is quite usable.
The remote is fine. There is an iPhone app for remote that is ok, but I don't think I would want to use it all of the time.

I am scared to death about IR and even burn-in. So I am avoiding black bars like the plague. I am staying away from 4:3 and letterbox. Tell me that I am being paranoid and watch it like I would watch anything else please. I am also afraid of using the apps because of this issue. In particular I would like to run Pandora.....does a 'screen saver' eventual kick in?

Well, I have had it for an hour. I will update in a few months.
post #4288 of 9713
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Originally Posted by dwillmore View Post

... Tell me that I am being paranoid and watch it like I would watch anything else please. ... I would like to run Pandora.....does a 'screen saver' eventual kick in? ...

You are being paranoid, watch it like you would watch anything else. There is nothing wrong with some letterbox or 4:3 just don't go nuts and watch nothing but letterbox and 4:3. 4:3 is easy to stretch. Unless you are some video purist, just stretch it and don't worry about it at all. I have not seen a single person indicate that Letterbox content did anything to the screen.

Yes, Pandora screen saver will turn on.
Edited by tpollagi - 11/10/12 at 12:10pm
post #4289 of 9713
Amazon has gt50's that were returned for minor blemishes going for $1,200 which is the same price as new st30's. I can deal with a scuffed bezel so I'm leaning towards the gt. Anybody have any experience with Amazon's returned items? Any chance that these will be included in any black Friday deals or should I just order it now?

Are the above posts talking about image retention or image burn? They are two different things. Image retention is temporary and something that all plasmas have to deal with. Over time certain aspect ratios may show onscreen for slightly longer eventually if abused but it always disappears in a fairly short amount of time regardless. Image burn is when you're screwed but I've never read of any plasma sets made in the last few years that this has happened to.
Edited by stir fry a lot - 11/10/12 at 10:39pm
post #4290 of 9713
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Originally Posted by stir fry a lot View Post

Amazon has gt50's that were returned for minor blemishes going for $1,200 which is the same price as new st30's. I can deal with a scuffed bezel so I'm leaning towards the gt. Anybody have any experience with Amazon's returned items? Any chance that these will be included in any black Friday deals or should I just order it now?
Are the above posts talking about image retention or image burn? They are two different things. Image retention is temporary and something that all plasmas have to deal with. Over time certain aspect ratios may show onscreen for slightly longer eventually if abused but it always disappears in a fairly short amount of time regardless. Image burn is when you're screwed but I've never read of any plasma sets made in the last few years that this has happened to.

Amazon is selling the 50GT50 for $1354.95. I would have expected a bigger deduction for a blemished TV unless Amazon specifically stated how it differs from a new TV.
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