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post #4501 of 9713
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Originally Posted by FREEZETIME View Post

Anyone had issues with this TV? I bought mine last year in August. 2 weeks ago I started getting ... look forward to talking shop and getting some new ideas.
Thanks in advance.

What did you have trouble with ? Last August sounds like a xT-30 model ? Or was it a different brand ?

Unfortunately, any TV can develop problems. The xT-50 line has not been out long enough to assess long term behavior. They could all explode in a giant fire ball at 366 days if all the plasma goes super-critical. Hope thats not the case.

Overall, the GT50 appears to be a very good performer. It has a few personality quirks that rub some people the wrong way but its probably one of the 2012 market leaders in plasma.
post #4502 of 9713
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Originally Posted by RandyWalters View Post

If you read the various 2012 threads and search the forum in general you'll find that loose board mounting screws has been one of the many different possible causes of excessive buzzing over the past several years and a few people here have had their screws tightened by a Panasonic technician, or had them replaced with a new improved version that don't vibrate loose and that successfully stopped the buzzing. That video you posted is old and we've seen it a dozen times. There are more too.
The guy that came to fix the sudden buzz on my friend's ST30 last year first tried tightening the screws and said this is one of the common causes, but they were already tight so he replaced the whole board and that fixed it.
I would not do that. The chance that loose screws is causing the buzzing is pretty small - it's more likely being caused by a defect in one of the dozens of coils on the various boards, or a bad power supply, or a bad plasma panel. Loose screws are rare. Also by removing the back of your TV you void your warranty and any future warranty technician will see evidence of it's prior removal, so if you get a buzzer just return it for a replacement or refund, or call Panasonic and hope their local technician is (A) capable of properly diagnosing it, (B) capable of properly fixing it, and (C) has good hearing so that he doesn't proclaim the buzzing to be within acceptable tolerances and closes your case without actually fixing the buzzing. Repair parts are sometimes backordered for 1-4 weeks too so there's a chance you'll have to wait for them to arrive then hope that they correct the problem.

OK ,cool,,thanks for sharing ..I didn't do a search here for the "buzzing" threads ..I appreciate you and toms input and after reading your thoughts on it i probably won't open it up..Guess i just have to hope i don't get a buzzer!!
Still puzzles me why panny can't simply eliminate this issue altogether ..IMO nobody should ever have to worry about if there TV will have the buzz or no confused.gif
post #4503 of 9713
My 50GT50 has no buzz (from the back, within a couple of inches I can hear it). My HDMI4 input does not work but I decided to not allow the technician to take the TV to his shop to repair it. Everything else works great and I can easily live without HDMI4. If it had been HDMI2(ARC) I would have risked having them fix it.
post #4504 of 9713
Hello,

I recently bought the GT50 55'' and i am in love.

I do have one concern however.
I noticed, only with certain sources, that the black edges of the display, where the picture isn't displayed, a green 'snow' effect.
Not really sure how to describe it other then dark green pixels appearing and disappearing.

In the areas where picture is displayed I believe its happening there too but its very very difficult to tell.
This is only really noticeable if I'm especially close to the television.

It seems to be mostly occuring when the source is my HTPC. What is strange is, when the HTPC is booting the green 'snow'
effect is completely gone. For example when its showing the DOS/BIOS startup sequence. But once it gets into windows the
green dots appear. So maybe its just a video card driver issue?

I will be hooking up a Bluray player this weekend and hopefully the green 'snow' doesn't appear there.


My question is, do other people have this? And will it harm the television in anyway?
post #4505 of 9713
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by xgalaxy View Post

This is only really noticeable if I'm especially close to the television.

Exactly how many feet or inches do you mean by "especially close"? To me, "especially close" means 5 feet which is too close to be watching a TV from wink.gif If you're seeing this when you're within a foot of the screen then stop that, you'll see some scary crap that is completely normal and is a complete non-issue from a normal viewing distance.

If you're seeing this from closer than that then it could just be normal dithering. Try looking at it while changing Picture Modes - you may find it's more prevalent in Vivid or Game mode than in Cinema mode.

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It seems to be mostly occuring when the source is my HTPC.

Well there ya go. It's not the TV.
post #4506 of 9713
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Originally Posted by RandyWalters View Post

Exactly how many feet or inches do you mean by "especially close"? To me, "especially close" means 5 feet which is too close to be watching a TV from wink.gif If you're seeing this when you're within a foot of the screen then stop that, you'll see some scary crap that is completely normal and is a complete non-issue from a normal viewing distance.
If you're seeing this from closer than that then it could just be normal dithering. Try looking at it while changing Picture Modes - you may find it's more prevalent in Vivid or Game mode than in Cinema mode.
Well there ya go. It's not the TV.

Thanks for the quick reply.
I just tried my Xbox and its occurring there too.

When I say close, I mean my face is within 2 feet of the display.

I kind of figured it was probably 'normal', because the picture looks awesome at my regular viewing distance.
I guess I'm just over analyzing it.
post #4507 of 9713
A little bit more information.

I reset my my picture settings, in case I accidentally changed something and went swapped between the different default picture settings.
All of the default picture settings don't exhibit the green 'snow' effect except THX Cinema.
THX Cinema Bright Room is fine, but not regular THX Cinema.

EDIT:
Okay well I've partially solved the issue.

For some reason, only when in THX Cinema certain sources show the green 'snow' (I guess dithering).
All other display modes are fine.

The only two sources I've tested so far are the Xbox 360 and my HTPC.
Now, the gotcha is, if I change the color output of my HTPC from YCbCr (4:4:4) to RGB FULL (4:4:4) then the green 'snow' effect disappears completely.
But this only works for my HTPC. I haven't seen any option like this for the Xbox.
Edited by xgalaxy - 12/1/12 at 1:10pm
post #4508 of 9713
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Originally Posted by tpollagi View Post

DTS audio is not supported by any of the Panasonic xT-50 models.
In my opinion, the best way to do this is to get a separate media player box with HDMI connected to the GT50 for video and a separate cable to your AV reciever for the full DTS sound capability. Skip the streaming entirely and just play it directly from the media center.

is there a media box you'd recommend getting? my main interest is playing back is 1080p mkv dts video files and high resolution 24bit /88~192Hz flac music files.
post #4509 of 9713
Which holes in the rear get used for a bracket. It seems like the only holes available are way too low on the set. Can some one guide me in the right direction because the manual shows nothing.
post #4510 of 9713
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Semp1 View Post

Which holes in the rear get used for a bracket. It seems like the only holes available are way too low on the set. Can some one guide me in the right direction because the manual shows nothing.

The Quick Start Manual i linked in Post #2 of this thread has the schematics with specific mounting hole location info.

I presume you have a 55" or larger - on these sizes the wall mounting holes are in the bottom portion of the TV. They're easy to spot; they're large 8mm threaded inserts with a flat plastic cover snapped into them so the ones you're talking about must be the right ones. Historically the mounting holes are on the lower portion on previous models, dunno why you think they're too low because they work fine like that.

On the 50" 2012 models however, the mounting holes are on the top half of the TV and i had to make adapter brackets to make mine work with my older wall mount. Now that's weird.
post #4511 of 9713
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Originally Posted by iamnotatoughguy View Post

is there a media box you'd recommend getting? my main interest is playing back is 1080p mkv dts video files and high resolution 24bit /88~192Hz flac music files.

One of the best and a great price. Have 3 friends with the media player and they love it, great reviews on amazon. I will pick up one in a few weeks.

KDLINKS HD700

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008CBQSKU/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_8?ie=UTF8&smid=A2PTCGBTT1K3UG
post #4512 of 9713
Can anyone link me to randys post with pics and models #s for his hdmi angle adapters. I've been searching but can't find it. Thanks
post #4513 of 9713
Go to post 4397 and 4398.
post #4514 of 9713
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Originally Posted by iamnotatoughguy View Post

is there a media box you'd recommend getting? my main interest is playing back is 1080p mkv dts video files and high resolution 24bit /88~192Hz flac music files.

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Originally Posted by dominica View Post

One of the best and a great price. Have 3 friends with the media player and they love it, great reviews on amazon. I will pick up one in a few weeks.
KDLINKS HD700
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008CBQSKU/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_8?ie=UTF8&smid=A2PTCGBTT1K3UG

That looks very nice.

I am using this one. The overall reviews are not as good but a lot of people complain about issues that been fixed.
If you purchase from NewEgg.com and some other approved sites (not Amazon) you can get a $30 rebate. Brings the price down to $70

http://www.pivosgroup.com/aios.html
post #4515 of 9713
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Originally Posted by tpollagi View Post

That looks very nice.
I am using this one. The overall reviews are not as good but a lot of people complain about issues that been fixed.
If you purchase from NewEgg.com and some other approved sites (not Amazon) you can get a $30 rebate. Brings the price down to $70
http://www.pivosgroup.com/aios.html

looks like either one would be a good choice, with a slight lean towards the pivos i think.

you mentioned in your first reply about skipping "the streaming entirely and just play it directly from the media center" got me thinking that i can resolve this through just the cabling. how about just bypass everything and connect the audio [optical] cable directly to the av receiver, as you mentioned, and connect the hdmi cable out from the videocard directly to the gt50. bypassing the need for a media box.

is there an obvious downside to this i'm missing?
Edited by iamnotatoughguy - 12/2/12 at 8:37am
post #4516 of 9713
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Originally Posted by tpollagi View Post

That looks very nice.
I am using this one. The overall reviews are not as good but a lot of people complain about issues that been fixed.
If you purchase from NewEgg.com and some other approved sites (not Amazon) you can get a $30 rebate. Brings the price down to $70
http://www.pivosgroup.com/aios.html

looks like either one would be a good choice, with a lean towards the pivos i think.
you mentioned in your first reply about skipping "the streaming entirely and just play it directly from the media center" got me thinking that i can resolve this through just the cabling. how about i just bypass everything. connect the audio [optical] cable directly to the av reciever as you mentioned and connect the hdmi cable out from the videocard directly to the gt50. by passing the need of a media box.

do you see any downsides to this setup?
post #4517 of 9713
Good afternoon all,
We have been pretty much enjoying our new 60GT50 for about three-four weeks now. I've played around with the cnets settings a bit yet no matter what, the picture still has an overall slightly washed out appearance. Almost like a suttle foggy or hazy looking picture. I've made a few searches yet have not found any comments pointing to this appearance or an issue causing it etc.

Is this an issue that after a couple hundred hours of use/panel break-in will help along with calibration or could this be an issue requiring a "return" or TV exchange?

Thank you for any suggestions
post #4518 of 9713
How does it look on the two THX settings? If they are also foggy I would call Panasonic.
post #4519 of 9713
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by KJSmitty View Post

Good afternoon all, We have been pretty much enjoying our new 60GT50 for about three-four weeks now. I've played around with the cnets settings a bit yet no matter what, the picture still has an overall slightly washed out appearance. Almost like a suttle foggy or hazy looking picture. I've made a few searches yet have not found any comments pointing to this appearance or an issue causing it etc.

Have you tried Black Ops' settings instead of CNet's? I used Black Ops' then tweaked them to my own preferences and they look great.

What is your source(s), and what channels and/or content are you watching when you're seeing this washed out look?

What Picture Mode are you in?

Post your specific picture settings so we can see if something looks amiss.
post #4520 of 9713
Just curious ,,where are these black ops settings?
post #4521 of 9713
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by feedthemachine View Post

Just curious ,,where are these black ops settings?

Click SEARCH, or just go to post #1 in this thread biggrin.gif
post #4522 of 9713
Thank you both,
Another way I would describe it is the colors just don't pop like my older 54GT15 - of which probably still has the settings from your recommendations three years ago Randy...😄
Currently I have the GT50 set to the exact CNet settings in the custom mode. I'll look up "Black ops" settings and play with those.
During the day I admit the room gets a bunch of sunlight thus that exaggerates the issue. BD does look pretty good when the sun goes down yet DISH Network is the worst (anything from HBO to HGTV, local channels etc) however, all do look better on the GT15 - which sat in the same spot/room that the GT50 now resides. I haven't had the time yet tonight I will break out the Spears and Munsil disk as well.

More to come,
Thank you both.
post #4523 of 9713
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Originally Posted by RandyWalters View Post

Click SEARCH, or just go to post #1 in this thread biggrin.gif

Thanks ,i did search ,,just got a bunch of COD threads wink.gif
post #4524 of 9713
I'd like to use an SSD for pausing/recording TV. Will this work?
post #4525 of 9713
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Dilbertor View Post

I'd like to use an SSD for pausing/recording TV. Will this work?

SSD! F**k Yeah! One of my favorite bands biggrin.gif http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhA55qD1vI4 (great song about second hand smoke)

Oh wait, what's an SSD?
post #4526 of 9713
thanks tom1996
post #4527 of 9713
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Originally Posted by iamnotatoughguy View Post

looks like either one would be a good choice, with a lean towards the pivos i think.
you mentioned in your first reply about skipping "the streaming entirely and just play it directly from the media center" got me thinking that i can resolve this through just the cabling. how about i just bypass everything. connect the audio [optical] cable directly to the av reciever as you mentioned and connect the hdmi cable out from the videocard directly to the gt50. by passing the need of a media box.
do you see any downsides to this setup?

If you mean connecting the PC / Lap-top directly to the TV and AV receiver, YES. This is what I did with my prior set-up; it worked fine. I had to run my audio through a TurtleBeach USB-to-optical audio connector since my lap-top only had a simple headphone jack. The video ran from the VGA out like an external monitor.

I had the connections all pre-hooked through a docking station. Just plop down the lap top and go.

This was with a prior Samsung TV that was replaced by the GT50. I have not tried the VGA connection on the GT50. I imagine it works fine but I can not give a qualified answer.

This ran fine; there was no other option at the time I started. A dedicated media center is just more convenient overall. When I found the Pivos-Aios for $70 I gave it try. I'm very happy I did. If for no other reason it has a remote control that I never had with my lap-top.


NOW, if you want to feed the HDMI from a PC into the GT50 and output the audio optical to your receiver ... NO ! It will choke on the DTS and give no audio.
post #4528 of 9713
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Originally Posted by Dilbertor View Post

I'd like to use an SSD for pausing/recording TV. Will this work?

No.

If you want to pause / record a video stream you will need a PVR. If you connect your SSD to your PVR you can use it as a storage devive but on its own its just a blob of memory without a function. I know of exactly ZERO TV's on the market that provide on-board PVR. Its too general. OTA-ATSC, cable or sat-based NTSC or ATSC, dedicated box de-scrambled or QAM feeds all require unique capabilities. No one makes a do-all box for this.

Each service has its own recorder that won't work on anyone else's signal.

What specifically do you want to record?
post #4529 of 9713
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Originally Posted by RandyWalters View Post

The Quick Start Manual i linked in Post #2 of this thread has the schematics with specific mounting hole location info.
I presume you have a 55" or larger - on these sizes the wall mounting holes are in the bottom portion of the TV. They're easy to spot; they're large 8mm threaded inserts with a flat plastic cover snapped into them so the ones you're talking about must be the right ones. Historically the mounting holes are on the lower portion on previous models, dunno why you think they're too low because they work fine like that.
On the 50" 2012 models however, the mounting holes are on the top half of the TV and i had to make adapter brackets to make mine work with my older wall mount. Now that's weird.
Thanks Randy, the 55GT50 is now looking beautiful on the wall using a nice low profile Sanus bracket. It was my first time hanging a set. I got a little confused for a second. I kind of jumped the gun. Lol.
post #4530 of 9713
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Originally Posted by Pyrophoric View Post

I just wanted to know if it was normal in general..
The TV is 65" and we will be about 7' away when viewing, further in our new home.
The way reviewers were going on about the set, you'd think (I'd think) it was a higher quality picture than an LCD. Sure, you can move back but everything looks a little cleaner the further back you get. A dirty car can look like a freshly polished and waxed vehicle at a certain distance.
Coming from a 4 year old LCD, I was just not expecting the effect I guess. Close viewing, I don't notice any issue on an LCD and everything looks crisp.
Edit: Source PS3/Blu ray, HDTV


I sit about 2.5 meters away from my 60".


To sit aprox. 1 meter way, you would probably need a 4k TV.
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