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Originally Posted by feedthemachine View Post

My GT50 also has the -2 ,it was built in September..never thought anything of it

any issues with buzzing or picture quality? Thats the issue I had with the two returned sets.

I've posted this earlier, about a month ago but FWIW I'l post it again.

I went through 3 60GT50s in the spring, all of them buzzed horribly, where you can hear the buzzing at viewing distance over audio, even from 20 ft away. Returned all three and waited till last month when I got a 65GT50-2 and the buzzing on this unit is very subdued in comparison. Yes it still buzzes on bright/white screens but it's very hard to hear over even low volume audio, which is totally normal. It could be a total coincidence but my suspicion is that they may have tightened QA a little with the "-2" line. A total guess on my part of course.
post #4712 of 9717
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Originally Posted by HD-Master View Post

No, that is not how it works on these displays. That is how 3D via YouTube works while on a computer. You can choose different formats. On the 2012 Panasonic PDP's, you simple set the 3D settings in the TV's menu to "Auto 2" and play a 3D video. It does everything else automatically.


Go and check out this movie. Do you see 3D on the bottom border? When you go to YouTube you will see the logo. Its not on ALL videos uploaded to YouTube that are 3D though.



Now see this one? It doesn't have it. It depends on how it was uploaded.


This is what I meant.
post #4713 of 9717
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Originally Posted by size14d View Post

I am getting this one, http://dtvexpress.com/xpresserv/extended-warranty-terms.html. Its owned by A+ rated insurance companies, HQ in Atlanta, few BBB complaints, good reviews when it comes to comparison of overage, the price is much less and its for 5 years, you have up to 6 months to purchase it.
their exclusions list burn-in phosphors etc. so its not the same as best buys. though i have not read best buys
post #4714 of 9717
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No, that is not how it works on these displays. That is how 3D via YouTube works while on a computer. You can choose different formats. On the 2012 Panasonic PDP's, you simple set the 3D settings in the TV's menu to "Auto 2" and play a 3D video. It does everything else automatically.


Go and check out this movie. Do you see 3D on the bottom border? When you go to YouTube you will see the logo. Its not on ALL videos uploaded to YouTube that are 3D though.



Now see this one? It doesn't have it. It depends on how it was uploaded.


This is what I meant.

Yes, I know. That only applies to when you go to the YouTube website through a web browser. Not when you use the YouTube Viera app on the 2012 Panny PDP's. When using the Viera YouTube app and when there are multiple 3D formats for a video available, it automatically chooses the correct one for you. It doesn't give the option of choosing the 3D format like it does when using a web browser. It doesn't need to though because it chooses the correct one for you.

Just set the GT50 to Auto 2 and it will work like a charm. Auto 1 is fine, but it won't enable 3D automatically if the trigger for it isn't embedded in the signal. Auto 2 does what Auto 1 does, but add the act of analyzing the image itself to detect if it is 2D or 3D.
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Originally Posted by HD-Master View Post

Yes, I know. That only applies to when you go to the YouTube website through a web browser. Not when you use the YouTube Viera app on the 2012 Panny PDP's. When using the Viera YouTube app and when there are multiple 3D formats for a video available, it automatically chooses the correct one for you. It doesn't give the option of choosing the 3D format like it does when using a web browser. It doesn't need to though because it chooses the correct one for you.
Just set the GT50 to Auto 2 and it will work like a charm. Auto 1 is fine, but it won't enable 3D automatically if the trigger for it isn't embedded in the signal. Auto 2 does what Auto 1 does, but add the act of analyzing the image itself to detect if it is 2D or 3D.


The Viera YouTube App is made by Google.Where does it say it automatically knows your display type?BTW, this app is identical to the one on the PS3. And I see the same display on my non 3D computer as I do on my 3D TV. You have to tell YouTube what kind of 3D you want displayed. Anyway, the Viera Web Browser works with YouTube videos.
Edited by size14d - 12/12/12 at 6:57pm
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Originally Posted by swizzchard View Post

their exclusions list burn-in phosphors etc. so its not the same as best buys. though i have not read best buys

You really have to do something drastic to have Burn In vs Image Retention, its not a worry for me. Other aspects of warranties are though. Like Dump clauses. I found an article that talks about Best Buy's Black Tie Plans.
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Many are under a false assumption that Best Buys plans are different from others in that they replace the product the minute you bring it back. That's not the case with TVs. In fact the contract is very much like the others with a buyout clause, and a strict limitation clause. The premium plan does not cancel out these clauses.
"Best Buys plans are termed for 2 and 4 years instead of 3 or 5 years"

One other important note concerning Best Buys plans is that they are termed for 2 and 4 years instead of 3 or 5 years. One would think that this means 2 years or 4 years after the end of the manufacturer's warranty, but this is not the case. The protection plan runs concurrent with the manufacturer's warranty and, "parts and services covered during the manufacturer's warranty period are the responsibility of the manufacturer and are not covered under this Plan." This means that a 2 year warranty gives you only 1 extra year of warranty protection or a 4 year plan gives you only 3 extra years.
post #4717 of 9717
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Originally Posted by HD-Master View Post

Yes, I know. That only applies to when you go to the YouTube website through a web browser. Not when you use the YouTube Viera app on the 2012 Panny PDP's. When using the Viera YouTube app and when there are multiple 3D formats for a video available, it automatically chooses the correct one for you. It doesn't give the option of choosing the 3D format like it does when using a web browser. It doesn't need to though because it chooses the correct one for you.
Just set the GT50 to Auto 2 and it will work like a charm. Auto 1 is fine, but it won't enable 3D automatically if the trigger for it isn't embedded in the signal. Auto 2 does what Auto 1 does, but add the act of analyzing the image itself to detect if it is 2D or 3D.


The Viera YouTube App is made by Google. Anyway, the Viera Web Browser works

Yes, YouTube is owned by Google and they develop the app. I'm not sure if that is relevant here. It is an app that is part of the Panasonic Viera Connect feature. It is far more likely that people will use the available app, rather than navigating to YouTube by way of Viera web browser.

Using the app, rather than the browser, simplifies the process by automatically choosing the best resolution available and the correct 3D format.
post #4718 of 9717
Got my set last night and I must say the PQ on this is nothing but STUNNING! eek.gif Seriously one of the best looking plasmas I have seen and I seen alot of them!

SMALL problem so far maybe one of you all can shed light on. I have a dual HDMI blu-ray player one sends audio to my non 3D receiver and the other HDMI sends video to my now 3D television. For the life of me I cant understand why whenever I play a 3D disc I get NO audio whatsoever out of my receiver!!!! If I play a 2D disc I get my surround sound just fine/perfect. 3D I get nothing! Now if I switch my receiver off I get audio from my television....I'm stuck mad.gif

Any help? Thanks!
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Originally Posted by HD-Master View Post

Yes, YouTube is owned by Google and they develop the app. I'm not sure if that is relevant here. It is an app that is part of the Panasonic Viera Connect feature. It is far more likely that people will use the available app, rather than navigating to YouTube by way of Viera web browser.
Using the app, rather than the browser, simplifies the process by automatically choosing the best resolution available and the correct 3D format.

It is the very same app used on the PS3. Exactly.
post #4720 of 9717
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Originally Posted by HD-Master View Post

Yes, YouTube is owned by Google and they develop the app. I'm not sure if that is relevant here. It is an app that is part of the Panasonic Viera Connect feature. It is far more likely that people will use the available app, rather than navigating to YouTube by way of Viera web browser.
Using the app, rather than the browser, simplifies the process by automatically choosing the best resolution available and the correct 3D format.

It is the very same app used on the PS3. Exactly.

What does this have to do with the PS3? When using the YouTube app on the GT50...you cannot choose the 3D format. You were telling someone to do something that they cannot do within the app. It chooses the correct format, if one exists for that video, for you.
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It`s quite long thread and it takes time to read everything (maybe this is discussed already, but I can`t find right page), but can someone of GT50 owners give ansvers to my questions:
1. Viera connect web browser - is it now supporting web flash content?
2. Viera connect youtube app - is it possible to watch youtube HD content in full HD resolution in GT50?
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I was meaning the YouTube app. Auto 2 worked for me Thanks.
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Originally Posted by size14d View Post

You really have to do something drastic to have Burn In vs Image Retention, its not a worry for me. Other aspects of warranties are though. Like Dump clauses. I found an article that talks about Best Buy's Black Tie Plans.

Good to know. I dead aware of the concurrent coverage. I'm pretty sure even squaretrade is concurrent, but I won't look at the fine print until I get closer to buying my gt. my a,ex ADDS 1year and my visa actually adds 2 beyond the manufacturer and third party. Everyone should check their cc services.

But does best buys actually cover pixel And burn in? That's what I'm after as it seems the rumor is theirs will hence worth the premium price.
post #4724 of 9717
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Originally Posted by dwillmore View Post

I purchased my Panny a month or so ago, and I wanted to let you know my thoughts on the set.
I love my Panny, and can't say enough good things about it. I have no buzzing at all that I can tell, but I have not put my ear up to the TV. I have also watched a great deal of content in 4:3 and with the black bars at top and have noticed no burn-in. I did not break in my set or use slides as others on the forums suggested. I simply started using it like a TV.
I have u-verse and this is only 1080i, but I have become addicted to streaming Netflix.
I don't know how the 3D looks, but I have some glasses and a 3D Bluray player coming for Christmas.
A month or so is still a short time in the life of a TV, but I love this purchase. The 'smart' features are nice as I do Pandora, Netflix, and soon VUDU with great frequency. I would recommend the purchase, and am quite happy.
I am not a video purist, just a normal viewer. My set has not been calibrated and probably won't be. I am using the THX setting and my room is dark.


No break-in, no slides, no calibration, no buzzing and no IR from watching a great deal of 4:3 content. This is music to my ears. I read in the eHelp manual that Panasonic recommends you set the 4:3 side bars mode to "Bright." Of the four possible settings, "Off/Dark/Med/Bright", which side bars setting did you opt for? Continued good luck with your GT50 and thank you for sharing your impressions.
Edited by Paul Sloan - 12/13/12 at 5:53am
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Originally Posted by Looneyhouston View Post

I was meaning the YouTube app. Auto 2 worked for me Thanks.

Glad to hear it!
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AV Receiver Question:

Santa is giving me an AV receiver with 6 HDMI and it says it is 3d ready. Would I be better off going through the receiver to the tv or simply using the digital audio out to the receiver? Currently I only have two components that connect to the TV through HDMI so cable clutter is really not a concern.
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Does anyone know if the digial output on the 60GT50 is variable or fixed? Since the speakers are the only thing on the set I'm not thrilled with , I want to hook up some quality powered monitors via the digital out and control it with the speaker level on the television.
post #4728 of 9717
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Originally Posted by dwillmore View Post

AV Receiver Question:
Santa is giving me an AV receiver with 6 HDMI and it says it is 3d ready. Would I be better off going through the receiver to the tv or simply using the digital audio out to the receiver? Currently I only have two components that connect to the TV through HDMI so cable clutter is really not a concern.

Connect all HDMI source devices to the receiver then run one HDMI cable to the set. Connecting to the set and using digital optical out from the set to the receiver strips out the surround sound audio formats and thus feeds only two channel audio from the set to the receiver. Only go that route for content from the tv's tuner or internet apps. If your new receiver has ARC you can use that instead of the optical cable but setup is trickier.
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Does anyone know if the digial output on the 60GT50 is variable or fixed? Since the speakers are the only thing on the set I'm not thrilled with , I want to hook up some quality powered monitors via the digital out and control it with the speaker level on the television.

Fixed and it outputs audio from whatever would normally come from the speakers. Plus unlike some audio outputs from other TVs, the output is On even when the speakers are On. Thus I can listen via my wireless headphones while watching TV with my wife. It eliminates arguments about how loud the volume control should be set and by muting the speakers I can watch while she is in bed or speaking on the phone. I have found that I even use headphones when she is not home. Not only is the sound better but I can leave the room and still hear what is going on.

Now having said that I note that you wanted to control the output via the TV's volume control. I don't think there is an option to change the output to variable.
post #4730 of 9717
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Originally Posted by ATC7 View Post

I've posted this earlier, about a month ago but FWIW I'l post it again.
I went through 3 60GT50s in the spring, all of them buzzed horribly, where you can hear the buzzing at viewing distance over audio, even from 20 ft away. Returned all three and waited till last month when I got a 65GT50-2 and the buzzing on this unit is very subdued in comparison. Yes it still buzzes on bright/white screens but it's very hard to hear over even low volume audio, which is totally normal. It could be a total coincidence but my suspicion is that they may have tightened QA a little with the "-2" line. A total guess on my part of course.

set up the new (3rd) GT50 last night...no buzzing except as you say in bright white scenes or back grounds. Do you think this will go a way or quiet a bit after the tv break in period? Maybe th phosphors will not be burning/working so hard?
post #4731 of 9717
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Originally Posted by pduncan View Post

Does anyone know if the digial output on the 60GT50 is variable or fixed? Since the speakers are the only thing on the set I'm not thrilled with , I want to hook up some quality powered monitors via the digital out and control it with the speaker level on the television.

Pretty sure it's fixed as you can mute the speakers and still get audio from the digital out. Also keep this in mind: the digital out is Dolby encoded and not straight PCM, therefore you will need something that decodes Dolby Digital, which leaves out many (if not all) stereo pre-amps and most likely the powered monitors you're thinking of using.

Chris
post #4732 of 9717
Just ordered mine from amazon......can't wait to get it.
post #4733 of 9717
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Originally Posted by RyStr View Post

set up the new (3rd) GT50 last night...no buzzing except as you say in bright white scenes or back grounds. Do you think this will go a way or quiet a bit after the tv break in period? Maybe th phosphors will not be burning/working so hard?

Glad to hear it ....Is it less noticeable with this one though?IDK if it will go away
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Just ordered mine from amazon......can't wait to get it.
Congrats it's an amazing set. Savor the wait!
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Thanks for the info. Looks like you just save me a couple of hundred.
post #4736 of 9717
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Originally Posted by pduncan View Post

Does anyone know if the digial output on the 60GT50 is variable or fixed? Since the speakers are the only thing on the set I'm not thrilled with , I want to hook up some quality powered monitors via the digital out and control it with the speaker level on the television.

As others have pointed out the optical is fixed but the Bluetooth is variable and is controlled by the TV's volume control. So, you may want to look for a Bluetooth solution. Either a dedicated Bluetooth speaker set or a Bluetooth audio adapter that will tie into your speaker set.
post #4737 of 9717
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Originally Posted by 2tvsonecup View Post

Based on my conversation with Panasonic today, a tech should be coming to check my panel within the next 5 days. I'll post the outcome.
So the tech from Panasonic came today. Outcome not what I was hoping for but kinda expecting.
post #4738 of 9717
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Originally Posted by RyStr View Post

set up the new (3rd) GT50 last night...no buzzing except as you say in bright white scenes or back grounds. Do you think this will go a way or quiet a bit after the tv break in period? Maybe th phosphors will not be burning/working so hard?

No, this will not change. The phosphors don't make any noise; the buzz is caused by magnetostriction in one or more of the components in the power supply. You may notice it less as time goes by but that's just in your head.
post #4739 of 9717
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Originally Posted by 2tvsonecup View Post

So the tech from Panasonic came today. Outcome not what I was hoping for but kinda expecting.

But some of us have no buzzing. I would send it back and get a refund or another sample.
post #4740 of 9717
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Originally Posted by 2tvsonecup View Post

So the tech from Panasonic came today. Outcome not what I was hoping for but kinda expecting.

I have head this same story over and over. I have no idea why these techs insist that buzzing is normal for all PDP's when many / most have nearly no buzzing at all.

I guess it's normal for a tech to hear nothing but buzzing TV's since few people call them to repair a functional unit. My set makes nearly zero buzz. On a bright white screen when the power supply is being pushed hard, I can hear a faint buzz from 2 - 3 feet away in a quiet room with the audio off. Under normal viewing from my usual position it's dead quiet.
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