Official Panasonic GT50 Series Discussion Thread [No Street Price Talk] - Page 172

Originally Posted by davelanger 

Does anyone play games on the GT?

I really like this TV but since I game a lot people are telling me to go LCD or LED.

Do people have a ton of problems with IR on the GT?

Originally Posted by cephla 

I have a PS3 connected to my 42GT50 and the image quality is outright TERRIBLE!

The image is full of jaggies - something that will annoy the pants off any avid gamer out there.

For now, I've experienced this with Infamous and Killzone 2, and currently with Assassin's Creed II.

Anyone have any ideas how to take those unbelievably frustrating jaggies away:eek:?

Originally Posted by Boston Red Sox 

Just an FYI:

Well, I've also fallen victim to whatever it may be, be it Image Retention or Burn In. I have the 65GT50 that I bought off Amazon the week of Thanksgiving. I didn't do the slides, and have had it on THX Cinema mode since day 1. Well, I have noticed that two channels that I watch a lot, the local NBC affiliate, and Tru-TV, both have their logos burned into the lower right hand side. I tried doing the Image Retention swipe (black and white scroll) for 15 minutes that's part of the setup menu on the tv, but that didn't help. I can't figure out how to turn on Pixel Orbiter, but who knows if that would help either.

I am not happy and not sure what to do at this point. I really don't want to be stuck with a brand new tv that I paid a lot of money for and less than two months in, having it ruined already.

Originally Posted by htwaits 

Yes, a lot of owners play games on the GT50 series plasmas, and on other plasmas. If you watch a big variety of other material you shouldn't have a problem. If gaming is your main activity, you might have trouble. I don't game.
LED refers to the back light of a LCD display. What you you mean by "I game a lot"?
Some do, most don't.

Originally Posted by cephla 

Settings on the PS3:

CCRF: Off
RGB: Limited
Super-White: Off
Deep-Color: Automatic

Settings On GT50:

Game Mode (Default Settings)

I've tried adjusting the color, contrast, and sharpness but it hasn't helped. This includes keeping the sharpness at 0.

Originally Posted by dcarroll 

i've got the GT, maybe 100ish hours on it. i used some calibration numbers from either here or Dnice(i don't recall).
anyway, something i got on my set is wicked IR from my sony 590/790. there is a bright white horizontal stripe on the menu of the blu ray player and it's burned in bad. you can only see it on green screens though so not much of an issue, but something to watch out for. i must've taken too long to set up the player, although i don't remember really leaving it on for too too long at any point.
not knocking either unit, just alerting of something to watch for.

Originally Posted by Boston Red Sox 

Just an FYI:
Well, I've also fallen victim to whatever it may be, be it Image Retention or Burn In. I have the 65GT50 that I bought off Amazon the week of Thanksgiving. I didn't do the slides, and have had it on THX Cinema mode since day 1. Well, I have noticed that two channels that I watch a lot, the local NBC affiliate, and Tru-TV, both have their logos burned into the lower right hand side. I tried doing the Image Retention swipe (black and white scroll) for 15 minutes that's part of the setup menu on the tv, but that didn't help. I can't figure out how to turn on Pixel Orbiter, but who knows if that would help either.
I am not happy and not sure what to do at this point. I really don't want to be stuck with a brand new tv that I paid a lot of money for and less than two months in, having it ruined already.

Originally Posted by Recstar24 

Not sure if this is the right place, so moderators feel free to move or copy elsewhere.
I had an excellent calibration experience with chad b tonight on my gt50. I was using thx cinema and really liked the picture out of the box, I tweaked some of the user settings using spears and munsil. Chad ended up creating a custom mode and through his grayscale service menu and user menu adjustments, looked way better than OOB thx cinema. The contrast was excellent, the colors really popped and overall the image was simply more engaging. Thx cinema OOB was rich but muted and flatter in comparison. I was also startled by how much depth was conveyed in the image in chads custom calibration, it really looked 3 dimensional. The picture also has much better detail and definition, compared to my thx cinema OOB it almost appeared blurry. He also tweaked my thx bright room and while there was a definite improvement there, the custom appears to be my go to choice for almost all viewing both day and night. Then kicker was when my wife came down and instantly said "wow that looks amazing". We went back and forth between my old thx cinema and chads new custom and the difference was very noticeable, my wife who is very much your typical home viewer commented how it had more contrast and definition and that before it looked muted.
The calibrated image in custom mode is set around 50 fl which is the perfect brightness for our room, our nighttime viewing uses a little back corner lamp and sometimes we utilize some ceiling lamps and it looks great regardless. The calibrated thx bright room looks great with more output at 56 fl but the gamma still makes it seem a little washed out to me, though chad really seemed to flatten out the gamma curve whereas OOB it's pretty wild. Its nice to have it but the custom should be everything i will need for virtually all of my viewing.
Ill comment more on chads professionalism and overall customer service in a more appropriate area but basically it was perfect. Chad just recently offered a "geek buster" calibration for those not needing or having the resources for a more full comprehensive ISF calibration, and chad informed me I was his first one! Suffice to say, it is a no brainer IMO for the gt50 since its calibration controls are so limited and that the performance is pretty solid OOB in many respects. I would highly recommend any gt50 owner to consider a professional calibration and I can definitely vouch for chad's knowledge of the gt50.

Originally Posted by highdefav1 

Try giving it some more time. I've read from users that sometimes if the IR is bad enough (but not BI), it can take a month or a little more to disappear. Watching full screen (no logo) content can help and also the Disney WOW calibration discs have some took called a pixel jogger or something that can help or even eliminate IR from what I've read on reviews about it.
I'm not sure why the disable the PO on THX mode. There must be a setting within that mode that doesn't play nice with the PO.
I can tell you I'm a firm believer of the PO now though. I turned it off based on some other members comments and that it's only a placebo and doesn't do anything. Well I never noticed IR before I turned it off and when I did turn it off, I watched some games on ESPN and the ESPN (white) and the outlines of the on-screen scoreboard IR'd on the screen. Well, I turned the PO back on (enable) and watched full screen/no logo TV, some Pixar movies (in zoom mode, if they weren't in 1.78 aspect ratio) and it's almost gone. I also watched content on ABC and ESPN2 and I have not noticed any IR from their logos since I've enabled the PO.
You may want to try to capture the setting from the THX mode and see if you can put those settings in the Custom mode and that way you can enable the PO.
Also, if you still want to watch the NBC and TRUtv channels, put the TV in zoom mode to push the logos out of screen view.
I have an ST50 BTW.

Originally Posted by Semp1 

Pixel Orbiter can be enabled on THX. THX disables pixel orbiter because it shifts the screen. THX disables anything that interfers with the natural view of the way a movie should appear. The way you would enable it is go in to settings under picture mode down to aspect adjustments and switch THX to size 1. Pixel Orbiter will now be enabled withTHX.

Originally Posted by davelanger 

Well I went to best buy to buy this TV tonight. Its set to be delivered next wed. thanks everyone for your help.
I think until i get a good number of hours on this TV I will just game on my old plasma.
What is the best station to break in a tv nowadays? I was looking and it seems like they all have a logo.
I did also get toystory 1-3 incase I get any IR. I think as long as I have contrast below 60 I should be ok

Originally Posted by Semp1 

HBO and Cinemax have no logo static images. I used solely these channels for the break in of both my plasma's.

Originally Posted by Recstar24 

I like encore. Full screen content, no logo for the most part, it comes on before commercials, and runs movies throughout the night.
Just received my bluray of "up" - outside being awesome it's great for the purpose of running contrasty full screen content.

Originally Posted by Recstar24 

Not sure if this is the right place, so moderators feel free to move or copy elsewhere.
I had an excellent calibration experience with chad b tonight on my gt50. I was using thx cinema and really liked the picture out of the box, I tweaked some of the user settings using spears and munsil. Chad ended up creating a custom mode and through his grayscale service menu and user menu adjustments, looked way better than OOB thx cinema. The contrast was excellent, the colors really popped and overall the image was simply more engaging. Thx cinema OOB was rich but muted and flatter in comparison. I was also startled by how much depth was conveyed in the image in chads custom calibration, it really looked 3 dimensional. The picture also has much better detail and definition, compared to my thx cinema OOB it almost appeared blurry. He also tweaked my thx bright room and while there was a definite improvement there, the custom appears to be my go to choice for almost all viewing both day and night. Then kicker was when my wife came down and instantly said "wow that looks amazing". We went back and forth between my old thx cinema and chads new custom and the difference was very noticeable, my wife who is very much your typical home viewer commented how it had more contrast and definition and that before it looked muted.
The calibrated image in custom mode is set around 50 fl which is the perfect brightness for our room, our nighttime viewing uses a little back corner lamp and sometimes we utilize some ceiling lamps and it looks great regardless. The calibrated thx bright room looks great with more output at 56 fl but the gamma still makes it seem a little washed out to me, though chad really seemed to flatten out the gamma curve whereas OOB it's pretty wild. Its nice to have it but the custom should be everything i will need for virtually all of my viewing.
Ill comment more on chads professionalism and overall customer service in a more appropriate area but basically it was perfect. Chad just recently offered a "geek buster" calibration for those not needing or having the resources for a more full comprehensive ISF calibration, and chad informed me I was his first one! Suffice to say, it is a no brainer IMO for the gt50 since its calibration controls are so limited and that the performance is pretty solid OOB in many respects. I would highly recommend any gt50 owner to consider a professional calibration and I can definitely vouch for chad's knowledge of the gt50.

Originally Posted by Caice7134 

If the networks feel they must include their logo on the screen, would it be that difficult to move the location of the logo at the start of programming after the commercial break? Rotate lower right, to lower left, to upper left, to upper right and so on?
At least some of the networks make the logo somewhat transparent, but wow there are some super-bright ones as well!

Originally Posted by adb 

Interesting about your wifes comment. Mine has never made comments about the picture quality of our sets and after Chad finished his calibrations on the GT 50 she walked into the room and said "Wow- look at that picture". After almost three weeks since Chad's calibration we still make daily comments about how fine the picture is.

Originally Posted by tom1996 


If you watch the TV during the day when the room is fairly bright as well as at night when the room has lights on but a bit below reading-light level, how is calibration done? Is Custom set for one ambient condition and a THX setting is used for the other ambient condition?

Originally Posted by HD-Master 

Yes. The other option is an HDMI splitter. Then you can calibrate one input for one lighting condition and a second input for another lighting condition.