Official Panasonic GT50 Series Discussion Thread [No Street Price Talk] - Page 184

I was a little disappointed in the way ARC works. I mean it "works", but with caveats so I've chosen not to use it and now use a toslink. I know for those that have a wall mounted TV and have already run the wires that toslink might not be an option. I pulled my TV off the wall and ran the toslink as I couldn't stand the huge drawback (imo) to using ARC: and that is that it defaults to the TV-Audio input on my Denon 1713 receiver every time it is powered down then back on again. Maybe it's just a Denon issue idk.

For those using ARC and having issues, have you checked to be sure that HDMI control is set to "ON" on both the TV and the receiver? I know for the ARC to work on the Denon this has to be set correctly. A power outage could possibly reset these settings? Worth a shot

Btw Hd-master....I've been running your latest "nighttime" settings (newest ones) 24/7 and have really come to appreciate them on my 65"GT50. Appreciate you sharing

Glad to hear it. I'm working on updates as I have moved to new software and have had some input from a few experts here and elsewhere. I have the "day" settings finished. I will have both a 2.2 gamma and a 2.3-4 gamma version of my night settings as well.

I couldn't even get an audio signal to my Yammie WITH a toslink cable.

Maybe I should go for the Denon.

I just bought the 55" GT50. I originally had the Samsung PN51E7000 Plasma for about 3 weeks but had issues with IR and poor black levels. My 4+ year Samsung LCD had just as good blacks and very similar colors. I will have both TVs for the remainder of the week so I did some comparisons yesterday. Overall I like the GT50 better but the Samsung does come on top with a few things. I made a long post here: http://www.highdefforum.com/1295847-post8.html about the two TVs. Be advised though that I am not too well versed on HDTVs so my terminology may be incorrect and my opinion may differ from others. Here's a condensed version of the post from that site though:

pictures: http://imgur.com/a/rI3Ff#0 My camera wasn't able to accurately capture the colors so don't pay too much attention to that. I was able to set the ISO and exposure to settings that accurately captured the black levels though.

Clarity - Samsung wins. Look at the leaf pictures
Motion Handling - Panasonic wins ONLY if Motion Smoother is on, but with it on it can cause ghosting at times.
Bright Room Viewing - Samsung wins. Panasonic has a weird green hue to the panel itself as can be seen in the first picture. This makes bright room viewing bad on the Panasonic as dark areas will be that color. It also gets more washed out and reflects more with a lot of ambient light.
Colors - Tie. Samsung was more vivid and Panasonic was more dull. Somewhere in between would be perfect but I couldn't seem to get either TV to my liking.
Blacks - Panasonic dominates here. It is ridiculously black as you can see in the pictures but it does lose detail in really dark areas. I turned the brightness up and got the detail back but lost the DEEP blacks, although it was still very very good. Due to this, the Panasonic looks a lot better at night then the Samsung.
Buzzing - Samsung was about 1.5x louder but neither of them were so loud that it was audible over normal listening volume.
Image Retention - This was a big problem on the Samsung. I wasn't able to really test this on the Panasonic since it was smart and never allowed a static image on the screen for too long like the Samsung does. So the win goes to Panasonic.
Features - The Panasonic couldn't play either of the two movies (mkv) off a USB stick that I tested with. This is bad as I use USB all the time. Samsung had no issues with any of my movies or shows. The Panasonic did have small things that made it better such as cable wraps, SD Card reader, IR protection, and a few other things
Connectivity - Panasonic had 1 more HDMI, 1 more USB, SD card reader and a VGA port.

I plan to run D-Nice's slides and try out the settings as well to see if I can get any improvement. I will only be able to run them for about 48 hours though before I'll have to return the Samsung.

I'm going to give your setting a try. I've tried all of the posted settings, tweaked some with spears and munsil, and seem to keep ending up back at THX cinema as my go to settings.

I bought the 60GT50 about a month ago now. Since then I've noticed friends and family coming over to visit a lot more than they used to. Is anyone else having this issue? Is this normal for this set?
Edited by ASiani - 1/16/13 at 1:48pm

I see there are recommended settings for this set after break in, do you follow those with less contrast for break in? Or are they different all together?

Going to pick it up in an hour

For some, that could be a reason to return it.. :-)

As long as they're bringing the food and beer it's OK.

yes the wow you got me 60 inch gt 50... this the tv here? ir issues wow that sucks does it burn into the screen?

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Panasonic VIERA 60" 1080p 3D Plasma Smart TV (TCP60GT50)
TCP60GT50

This may have been discussed already, if yes point me to that post, if not someone may know the answer.
When I use the internal streaming apps, the picture has that weird "soap opera" effects on movements, and has a weird "glassy" look as well, like those "Pattonized" BD's if you know what I mean.
I've noticed that some picture settings are not available when the tv is in "Viera" mode as opposed to being a TV monitor. I disabled all the motion smoothness and noise reduction options when in "monitor" mode but I guess some of that won't apply to the "Viera" mode.
So my question: is there a way to defeat those functions in Viera mode, via service menus or something like that, as I firmly believe that those are the culprit of what I'm seeing when I use the on board streaming apps.
None of those problems exists with my outboard streamers such as Roku and my oppo 103 bd player.

Just FYI I used the settings from CNET's and some of the recommended ones from here as well in conjunction with some test disks, and very pleased with this TV otherwise. [60GT50]

Does speed of the break in slides matter? Seems like it sits on a color for a few seconds at a time.

And you guys let this thing roll for days on end? I'm a wee bit nervous....

Every input as well as that mode, you have to change the settings for individually. Just making sure that you changed the settings while in that mode. But if you did, which it sounds like you did, I have no idea what is going on with that, mine looks fine while watching Apps. The only think I don't like is you can't zoom for 1:33 material.

It's your receiver not the tv, ARC works perfect on my GT-50/Onkyo.. No problems at all since I bought it last year.

Actually, I JUST figured this out! The viera tools menu had to be set to "home theater" for sound output -- this was beyond the "sound menu" and the like. Once I got that selected, and selected "output to home theater" as default, I have had no ARC problems whatsoever.

I am PLEASED AS PUNCH and doing a happy dance. I can finally bond with my new AV set up and enjoy it, and not be derailed by tech glitches.

Signing off to watch some Blurays,

Jeffrey

-Panasonic GT50 65"
-Yammie RX-V573
-Panasonic BDP-220
-"Vintage" Cambridge Soundworks New Ensemble (fronts)
-"Vintage" CSW Center Channel Plus
-"Vintage" CSW 5.1 Surrounds
-Polk PSW-10

Really liking your settings HD-Master, what would be the reason 1080p Pure Direct and 3:2 Pulldown are greyed out when I use the settings

1080p Pure Direct requires a 1080p signal and 3:2 Pulldown is only for 1080i signals.

Yes, I did, Digging a little further I was able find the "missing" controls I was looking for under advanced picture controls, and indeed "motion smoothness" was said to medium, just as I suspected it. Set it to off, was all it took to remedy the situation. Now if only I could get DD via the optical output at least on Amazon IV, but that's not in the App's specs I guess. My pre pro doesn't support ARC. oh well.................
Edited by thehun - 1/17/13 at 4:11am

Contrary to what cnet said that the st50 and gt50 do not have any visible pq differences when calibrated it is just my opinion that the gt50 is superior. Don't get me wrong the st50 is a great tv but I think the blacks and sharpness are better on gt5o having had both. The vt30 doesn't even compare.

So I took delivery of my 55GT50 last Saturday, dutifully did the slides for 100 hours, calibrated to DNICE's settings and WOW! What a great picture.
I rented Loopers and sat down to enjoy the set.
Now the question. During the green ratings screen, I saw saw the line bleed. very noticable. I guess everyone gets that to some degree?
However I noticed something else. Whenever the screen was dark and there was a concentrated point of light (the moon, head lights or in the example below, a spot light) I get a BLUE line running across the screen, radiating horizontally from the light source. Is this line bleed? Is this acceptable or is something wrong? It's pretty distracting
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Edited by Freddyknuckles - 1/17/13 at 5:47am

i noticed the line bleed on the green ratings screen as well. did not see that on my samsung.

I believe you have to send 4:4:4 color space as well for 1080p pure direct.

Quite right.

However that colour space has to be Y'CbCr4:4:4 or else 1080P Pure Direct will ignore it. It won't process RGB 4:4:4.

Good catch, I did mean ycbcr 4:4:4, thanks.

Whilst on colour space topic, will any of these sets (ST, GT, VT) process RGB 4:4:4 natively or will they simply sub-sample that to 4:2:2?

Can anybody with Panasonic plasma experience explain this phenomenon in the picture. I know in the picture it looks a little bit like lens flare but I assure you it's not. Any time there is a bright light in a dark enviroment a distinct blue line appears. In the example below it happens to be two seperate lines but same problem. I am pretty unhappy about it. I just want to know if this set needs to be returned. Thanks.

I just recently added bias lighting to my 65GT50 and wow! It definitely made a difference. The main effect is that the black looks deeper and blacker. I did a test for my girlfriend who is by no means a videophile, but she noticed a difference herself and was surprised by it. I wouldn't say it's a drastic change, but definitely noticeable. Obviously this made the overall contrast look better. I had actually bought the Darbee Darblet last month and wasn't impressed with the results so I returned it. I then got an Ideal-Lume bias light from CinemaQuest and wanted to see the effect. Needless to say, I am way happier with the lighting than the Darbee, and at a fraction of the price of the Darbee.

I still need to tinker with the placement of the light and watch more material, but if any of you want to further enhance the perceived picture (black level and contrast) of our GT50's, then the bias lighting is an easy recommend.

I'm thinking about getting the 65". What are people's thoughts on the TV? What are the common issues folks are having? I'm upgrading my sammy PN58B650. What sammy could I compare this tv too?
Thanks