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post #5731 of 9713
Just FYI in case anyone is interested. I found another thread here on AVS talking about 3-D glasses and Sears has the 2012 Panasonic glasses on sale online for $29.97. Several people have gone to Best Buy and they have matched that price. I will be checking that out today as I do need a couple of sets. Keeping my fingers crossed!
post #5732 of 9713
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Originally Posted by MacNThorens View Post

Just FYI in case anyone is interested. I found another thread here on AVS talking about 3-D glasses and Sears has the 2012 Panasonic glasses on sale online for $29.97. Several people have gone to Best Buy and they have matched that price. I will be checking that out today as I do need a couple of sets. Keeping my fingers crossed!

i went to BB 2 weeks ago to get my GT and in fact they did PM the sears price of $29.97, even though Sears was out of stock online.
post #5733 of 9713
Does anyone use CATS...ever? My old sony LCD did a fantastic job of adjusting to the room conditions with its sensor. I really took it for granted. It made going from kids cartoons in the morning to movies in the dark at night very easy. Panny really wasn't able to do the same thing? I get my 60GT50 on Thursday! CATS or not, I'm so psyched.
post #5734 of 9713
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by MacNThorens View Post

GT60 Will not exist for 2013. 2013 Panny models are ST VT And ZT.

Well there will be a GT60 series in Europe, but it's basically a rebadged ST60 over there. So you will see references to a GT60 here and there, but it only applies to non-North American markets.

And you left out the X60 and S60 models wink.gif


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Edited by RandyWalters - 1/22/13 at 6:41am
post #5735 of 9713
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Originally Posted by RandyWalters View Post

Well there will be a GT60 series in Europe, but it's basically a rebadged ST60 over there. So you will see references to a GT60 here and there, but it only applies to non-North American markets.

And you left out the X60 and S60 models wink.gif

Oops forgot this is an international site........sorry! So my question Randy is.....Since the new ST60 is rebadged to be a GT60 (over in europe), will the 2013 ST60 be or have all of the features of the 2012 GT50. I love my GT50 but would like some of the new features on the 2013 Panny's. Do you know if the 2012 Panny's will get a software upgrade for some of those features?
post #5736 of 9713
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by MacNThorens View Post

Oops forgot this is an international site........sorry!

AVS is actually a US-based site and covers North American models. The UK-based AVForums site is similar and covers most European models (which are very different than NA models).

http://www.avforums.com/forums/plasma-tvs/

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So my question Randy is.....Since the new ST60 is rebadged to be a GT60 (over in europe), will the 2013 ST60 be or have all of the features of the 2012 GT50.

I don't know much about the Euro models since they're not really discussed here. I have seen mention somewhere on the UK site that the Euro GT60 probably won't have THX modes and loses one HDMI input (leaving it with just three instead of four) but i don't know if that's confirmed or not.

In North America, the ST60 will not inherit the GT50's THX modes and will still only have 3 HDMI inputs. One of the reasons i bought my GT50 is because i need 4 HDMI inputs on my display, and i also wanted the THX modes. So even if i wanted to upgrade this year, the new ST60 and VT60 wouldn't fit my needs, and the ZT60 will be way too big so i'm now very glad i bought my 50GT50 instead of waiting for 2013. Sadly, this may be the last Panasonic TV i'll ever buy as they no longer make a model/size combination that i can use.
post #5737 of 9713
just got my GT50 yesterday.
I almost didn't order it due to the complaints on this board.
No buzzing whatsoever. To hear anything, you have to mute and then move your ears 1 inch from the tv. Even then, you barely hear anything.
No IR at all.

One issue I am having - The tv does not recogniize my usb drive. Does it have to be a flash drive? or does the drive need to be formatted in a certain way (fat32, ntfs)?

Also, if you order from paul's tv, they do not assemble it for you onto the stand even though they advertise that.
Not a big issue though. Took me about 20-30 minutes and the tv is light enough to lift by myself onto the stand.
post #5738 of 9713
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Originally Posted by timewaster View Post

just got my GT50 yesterday.
I almost didn't order it due to the complaints on this board.
No buzzing whatsoever. To hear anything, you have to mute and then move your ears 1 inch from the tv. Even then, you barely hear anything.
No IR at all.

One issue I am having - The tv does not recogniize my usb drive. Does it have to be a flash drive? or does the drive need to be formatted in a certain way (fat32, ntfs)?

.........

Actually, my greatest fear was getting a set that had vertical, banding, buzzing and IR. I had none of that of my previous ST50 and I also have none of it of new GT50, so far. Solid bit of kit, smile.gif

USB flash drive should be formatted NTFS or FAT32:
http://www.sandisk.com/products/usb/drives/

I use Extreme 16 Gb in my Sony BDP-S790 and Cruzer Glide 8 Gb in TV.
Edited by Iain- - 1/22/13 at 7:35am
post #5739 of 9713
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Originally Posted by RandyWalters View Post

AVS is actually a US-based site and covers North American models. The UK-based AVForums site is similar and covers most European models.

In North America, the ST60 will not inherit the GT50's THX modes and will still only have 3 HDMI inputs. One of the reasons i bought my GT50 is because i need 4 HDMI inputs on my display, and i also wanted the THX modes. So even if i wanted to upgrade this year, the new ST60 and VT60 wouldn't fit my needs, and the ZT60 will be way too big so i'm now very glad i bought my 50GT50 instead of waiting for 2013. Sadly, this may be the last Panasonic TV i'll ever buy as they no longer make a model/size combination that i can use.

Thanks for the clarification on AVS! Glad to hear about the GT50 and ST60 as I really did not want to return my set. I will just have to wait to see if Panasonic offers a software upgrade to some of the 2013 features. I will probably be keeping this set for many years until Oled (or anything else in the future) gets better pricing and more abundant with time. Still, I see the TC-P60GT50 being a great performer for years to come!!!!
post #5740 of 9713
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Originally Posted by swizzchard View Post

i went to BB 2 weeks ago to get my GT and in fact they did PM the sears price of $29.97, even though Sears was out of stock online.

My big box store was selling them for $29. I ordered 2 pair on the 4th...
Turns out they are really backordered at Panasonic.

I _might_ get my 2 pair on the 30th.


Freddyknuckles, call Panasonic Concierge service. They will fix your TV and/or get you a loaner or new one asap.

Why hassle with sending/getting a new one from Pauls ?
post #5741 of 9713
So i have had this tv for about 2 weeks and I must say it looks fantastic from a PQ standpoint. Thats the good news but I have a few questions and minor complaints I guess about some of its other features. While I consider the PQ to be by far the most important to me, getting less functionality than what I am used to from a usb/streaming standpoint has me a bit put off.

USB File playback is not as good as my cheap samsung und6400 bedroom tv. I find the panasonic nativeley doesnt recognize many formats via the usb inputs. I have never had an issue with any files on my Samsung so this was very disappointing. AVI for sure it does not do (intended or huge oversite?)and I have also had a wierd issue with an mp4 file where it displayed once to be played and then not again? and no idea why.

This pretty much elimates my use of usb functionality since its so unreliable and I am not going to spend the many hours to convert existing files.

Now on to DLNA

I was streaming via PS3 media played but again I found alot of the files not supported and wouldnt play(works fine on the samsung and my ps3). So I decided to try serviio which I like very much. I finally found a profile that would work with Panasonic viera and assist with the playing of the unsupported formats listed above. The movie art is an added bonus I find really cool.

However I have some questions about the wireless capabilities of the gt50 that I cannot find. I am starting to overhaul my internal network and planning to buy wireless n dual band router (or maybe even an ac).

Will the Viera connect to the 5ghz channel? I assume it has to be the wireless n but I cannot verify in any searching I have done. Also is anyone using any other products to boost this things connect capabilites. Eventually my aim to stream whatever I want and I dont want this connection to become a bottleneck.

Thanks for all the great info in this thread and I think I made the right choice, this tv will be perfect once i get over some of these minor hurdles.
post #5742 of 9713
quick/dumb question, but how do we download or search for "UPDATES" (sw, firmware, etc) on these GT50's? I've only started to explore the Viera apps/internet tool and found the Viera "store", with games, movies, etc but I can't find where to check or download system updates.

This is partly b/c my netflix app doesnt seem to work. I've talked to the folks at Netflix and they said the tv may need an sw/firmware update?

When I select the netflix app the red screen comes up with the NETFLIX logo, but underneath that logo where you have those little squares in a line that usually move from left to right (while the app is loading) well they don't move at all... the first square on the left is larger and it just stays like that, as if the app is frozen or locked. Eventually a message comes up saying can't access or connect. I've never even gotten to the first time login page.

I've power cycled the TV, done the up up down down... trick with the remote to "deactivate" the app and then re-launch, nothing. And I know I have wireless access b/c the youtube app works just fine. When I deactive the app there is this long ass code that starts off with something like "cannot connect/access back end".... the netflix folks are going to deactivate and start up the app again on their side but thought I'd ask in meantime how/where we search for updates for the tv. thanks
post #5743 of 9713
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Originally Posted by stuckin96 View Post

quick/dumb question, but how do we download or search for "UPDATES" (sw, firmware, etc) on these GT50's? I've only started to explore the Viera apps/internet tool and found the Viera "store", with games, movies, etc but I can't find where to check or download system updates.

This is partly b/c my netflix app doesnt seem to work. I've talked to the folks at Netflix and they said the tv may need an sw/firmware update?

When I select the netflix app the red screen comes up with the NETFLIX logo, but underneath that logo where you have those little squares in a line that usually move from left to right (while the app is loading) well they don't move at all... the first square on the left is larger and it just stays like that, as if the app is frozen or locked. Eventually a message comes up saying can't access or connect. I've never even gotten to the first time login page.

I've power cycled the TV, done the up up down down... trick with the remote to "deactivate" the app and then re-launch, nothing. And I know I have wireless access b/c the youtube app works just fine. When I deactive the app there is this long ass code that starts off with something like "cannot connect/access back end".... the netflix folks are going to deactivate and start up the app again on their side but thought I'd ask in meantime how/where we search for updates for the tv. thanks

Bring up the GT50 menu (not when in the Internet apps).

Menu -> Network -> Software update
post #5744 of 9713
Just received my 60GT50 yesterday. Am very pleased so far. I watched some ESPN, and I can say uniformity is not perfect, and there are slight issues with what I'm going to define as crosstalk when you get too much motion. Still, it's only noticeable when you're watching the areas of the screen where compression shows up; things like black booths or chairs as they're in motion. It's fine. The set is very, very good. I did have IR, which surprised me because I ordered a used tv from amazon... Checked the hours (thanks to everyone who posted little helpful guides on that and other things), seems amazon sent me a brand new one. I ran slides for 2 hours, IR went away. I've now been running slides all night, and will be running them with some breaks inbetween till I'm around 150 hours. I imagine that should give the phosphors a chance to age well.

Color depth and accuracy is very good from what I can tel so far. The set never has to try too hard to get them up to par. I wish it could be brighter, but the thx bright room setting is very good out of the box. I don't think you'd even want a calibrated setting if you're going to be having lots of light and glare; it's great as is. Obviously once I get the set burnt in a bit, I'll be trying various settings like hdmaster's and we'll see how well it can perform at night.

About the buzzing? I haven't listened for it, but I haven't noticed it at all even walking right past it running slides. I guess I got one of the good ones, and I wouldn't be surprised to hear that there are alot of good ones. It may buzz, but if I can't hear it walking past it, even with a pure white slide on, it will not be hearable from any sort of viewing range. By the way, 60 inches is fing huge. It's really, just completely, too big for the room I've got it in. But who cares. I am the man in this house dammit, and my TV stays!

The one disappointment is the usb compatability. Still, that's the kind of thing that could one day be fixed with updates. I'm really interested to find some larger forum like an official panasonic forum, and seeing if some enterprising person has hacked the firmware enough to be able to add in new codecs. My problem is that it will play most of the video codecs, but very few of the audio ones. Still, a few files did work, and that makes me hopeful. The last thing I want to do is run some sort of dlna with transcoding. I've tried tversity, and it's just terrible. A perfect source looks horrible on your tv, especially a tv this big, no matter the transcoding settings. Will try serviio as someone mentioned above, thanks for that.

Other than that, great tv. If you're still wanting a tv, get this one. Or wait till the 13 tvs release, and these should become very affordable. Make sure you get decent speakers too, by the way. These speakers could be worse, yes, but they're slightly better than bad. Grab a cheap receiver, some cheap wire from home depot/lowes, and spend some money on a pair of good floorstanders. It kills me to hear of people watching movies on these great big 65" tvs, and listening to the included speakers. You're missing out on half the experience! The experience is the movie, not the tv!

Anyways, thanks guys! I always drop in here to figure out what to buy when it comes to tvs and speaker. Now I just want the money to get speakers that can get close to replicating the sound from my Grados, and I'll be just fine.... Again, thanks for all the help.
post #5745 of 9713
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Originally Posted by HD-Master View Post

Bring up the GT50 menu (not when in the Internet apps).

Menu -> Network -> Software update

Thanks
post #5746 of 9713
I just wanted to thank HD-Master, for posting your settings. I was running Black Ops for the longest but tried your Night Warm 2 settings and I must say, my set looks even better. I'm actually running your settings for 3D as well for the time being, with a bump in contrast to 90 and it looks pretty damn good as well. I'm looking forward to your 3D settings when you finish them. cool.gif
post #5747 of 9713
HI All

I am in the market for a new TV, and the GT50 was recommended. This is going to be going into a living room, where there are windows and such, so there will be ambient lighting coming through. Would you all still recommend this TV based on what i have said, or would i be better of with an LED.

Also any advice pros/cons on the TV is appreciated as well

Thanks
post #5748 of 9713
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Originally Posted by amindu View Post

HI All

I am in the market for a new TV, and the GT50 was recommended. This is going to be going into a living room, where there are windows and such, so there will be ambient lighting coming through. Would you all still recommend this TV based on what i have said, or would i be better of with an LED.

Also any advice pros/cons on the TV is appreciated as well

Thanks
I have my 65"gt50 in a living room with 6 windows and it's fine. I do have shutters though so I can shut the light out at will. It's all down to your preferences and what you want. Can you share a pic of your living room? It's hard for me to ever recommend a LCD over a pdp. Only time would be extensive gaming or you have an unlimited budget to grab a sharp elite.
post #5749 of 9713
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Originally Posted by jbdan View Post

I have my 65"gt50 in a living room with 6 windows and it's fine. I do have shutters though so I can shut the light out at will. It's all down to your preferences and what you want. Can you share a pic of your living room? It's hard for me to ever recommend a LCD over a pdp. Only time would be extensive gaming or you have an unlimited budget to grab a sharp elite.

Hi, thanks for the response. I have attached the picture of the living room. Please note ours will have two additional windows on the back wall, which will be directly across from the TV. There will be blinds though.

post #5750 of 9713
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Originally Posted by Iain- View Post

Actually, my greatest fear was getting a set that had vertical, banding, buzzing and IR. I had none of that of my previous ST50 and I also have none of it of new GT50, so far. Solid bit of kit, smile.gif

USB flash drive should be formatted NTFS or FAT32:
http://www.sandisk.com/products/usb/drives/

I use Extreme 16 Gb in my Sony BDP-S790 and Cruzer Glide 8 Gb in TV.

My USB drive is formatted in fat32.
I can read it off my bluray player but it won't get recognized by the GT50 panny.
Any other ideas on what I can check?
post #5751 of 9713
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Originally Posted by amindu View Post

Hi, thanks for the response. I have attached the picture of the living room. Please note ours will have two additional windows on the back wall, which will be directly across from the TV. There will be blinds though.


From my limited time with a 60", it would all depend on what you're willing to put up with. It's not like it's a dark tv; it can get pretty bright, and even with some pretty bad glare, I will still watch sports. But that is alot of windows to put up with. The screen is pretty shiny and reflective, so you will be getting some pretty bad glare. However the main thing that helps with that is a matte screen. Most of the high end LCD tvs have glossy screens; it took some work to find a good one with a matte screen when I got one a few years back for my parents.

If you can block most of the light, you'll be fine. But if you're watching with all 6 windows open, there will be times of day that it will be annoying. Still, no tv does well with tons of light. I'd say get the plasma, and get some drapes or something.
post #5752 of 9713
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Originally Posted by timewaster View Post

My USB drive is formatted in fat32.
I can read it off my bluray player but it won't get recognized by the GT50 panny.
Any other ideas on what I can check?

Ah, something I know about. Reformat it using the fat32, then before you put any files on it, error check it. That might solve the problem. There will always be a very tiny number of usb sticks that won't work with a certain tv or computer or whatever, but you almost never encounter that situation.
post #5753 of 9713
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Originally Posted by Dagg21 View Post

So i have had this tv for about 2 weeks and I must say it looks fantastic from a PQ standpoint. Thats the good news but I have a few questions and minor complaints I guess about some of its other features. While I consider the PQ to be by far the most important to me, getting less functionality than what I am used to from a usb/streaming standpoint has me a bit put off.

USB File playback is not as good as my cheap samsung und6400 bedroom tv. I find the panasonic nativeley doesnt recognize many formats via the usb inputs. I have never had an issue with any files on my Samsung so this was very disappointing. AVI for sure it does not do (intended or huge oversite?)and I have also had a wierd issue with an mp4 file where it displayed once to be played and then not again? and no idea why.

This pretty much elimates my use of usb functionality since its so unreliable and I am not going to spend the many hours to convert existing files.

Now on to DLNA

I was streaming via PS3 media played but again I found alot of the files not supported and wouldnt play(works fine on the samsung and my ps3). So I decided to try serviio which I like very much. I finally found a profile that would work with Panasonic viera and assist with the playing of the unsupported formats listed above. The movie art is an added bonus I find really cool.

However I have some questions about the wireless capabilities of the gt50 that I cannot find. I am starting to overhaul my internal network and planning to buy wireless n dual band router (or maybe even an ac).

Will the Viera connect to the 5ghz channel? I assume it has to be the wireless n but I cannot verify in any searching I have done. Also is anyone using any other products to boost this things connect capabilites. Eventually my aim to stream whatever I want and I dont want this connection to become a bottleneck.

Thanks for all the great info in this thread and I think I made the right choice, this tv will be perfect once i get over some of these minor hurdles.

Would you be willing to share this serviio profile? I'm going to try to make one that only transcodes what needs to be transcoded, and leave everything else the same. It seems these panasonics take H.264 video very well, and it's mostly the audio codecs that need to be transcoded.
post #5754 of 9713
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Originally Posted by Porteroso View Post

Ah, something I know about. Reformat it using the fat32, then before you put any files on it, error check it. That might solve the problem. There will always be a very tiny number of usb sticks that won't work with a certain tv or computer or whatever, but you almost never encounter that situation.

maybe it is because it is not a flash drive?

I am using something similar to this...

http://storage.toshiba.com/storagesolutions/archived-models/usb-portable-ext-hard-drive---250-to-500gb
post #5755 of 9713
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Originally Posted by amindu View Post

Hi, thanks for the response. I have attached the picture of the living room. Please note ours will have two additional windows on the back wall, which will be directly across from the TV. There will be blinds though.


I am not very happy with the GT50 in the day. The blacks become a dark gray with a hint of green and the overall picture becomes washed out. I used to have a Samsung PN51E7000 and it looks a lot better in the day. The Samsung also seemed to reflect less, but not by much. Although at night this tv is unbelievable. It becomes a whole new TV and just blows me away every time I watch it. The only window I have is a sliding door leading to the porch, so you're room will have a lot more light than mine. It really all depends on how much you watch during the day. For me, I watch mostly when it's dark so it isn't much of a problem. I'd say even if it was a 50/50 day/night watching, I'd probably still go with this TV just because of how awesome it looks at night.

Here's a daytime shot of the two TVs while off. You can see the greenish tint that I'm talking about.
post #5756 of 9713
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Originally Posted by amindu View Post

Hi, thanks for the response. I have attached the picture of the living room. Please note ours will have two additional windows on the back wall, which will be directly across from the TV. There will be blinds though.


I have found that as long as you can control the sunlight you are fine. By that I mean that I don't completely close my blinds, but rather angle them away from the tv. As long as you have blinds you can do this with you should be fine. I just wanted to point this out because i think some people assume you have to watch a plasma in complete darkness based on some of the posts I have seen over the years, which just isn't true.
post #5757 of 9713
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Originally Posted by timewaster View Post

maybe it is because it is not a flash drive?

I am using something similar to this...

http://storage.toshiba.com/storagesolutions/archived-models/usb-portable-ext-hard-drive---250-to-500gb

Oh, sorry. Still, the controller in the enclosure can be finicky. I'd still error check it, but if it doesn't work, contact the manufacturer. You sometimes have to ask several people, but you can eventually find a list of known incompatibilities. The other thing it could be is the power. Does it use usb for its power, or does it have a separate power cord? I had thought that almost every USB 2.0 and higher port would give you power, but that may not be the case with a TV. I'm not really sure how you'd go about the situation if you only have a USB cord. Anyways let us know if it's not that.
post #5758 of 9713
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Originally Posted by Dagg21 View Post

...
USB File playback is not as good as ...s.

USB sounds like a great thing at first but as I learned there are way too many issues associated with simply plugging in a USB stick or hard drive and expecting it to work. I just did not want to deal with all the incompatibilities with file structure, file size, file type, audio and video encoding, and on.

I highly suggest a simple HDMI based media player like the Pivos Aios unit. You just plug your USB stuff into the player and let it bypass the Panasonic Media Player all together. You also get 1080p upscaling.

I'm not sure what types of files you want to play. Some will work fine. For me the biggest complaint is that the GT50 will not play DTS audio. You get nothing. This accounts for most of the audio tracks I have with my video collection.

Don't fight with the USB on the TV, bypass it.
post #5759 of 9713
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Originally Posted by Porteroso View Post

Oh, sorry. Still, the controller in the enclosure can be finicky. I'd still error check it, but if it doesn't work, contact the manufacturer. You sometimes have to ask several people, but you can eventually find a list of known incompatibilities. The other thing it could be is the power. Does it use usb for its power, or does it have a separate power cord? I had thought that almost every USB 2.0 and higher port would give you power, but that may not be the case with a TV. I'm not really sure how you'd go about the situation if you only have a USB cord. Anyways let us know if it's not that.

my usb drive uses the usb cable for power (no separate power cord).
so this is why it doesn't work?
post #5760 of 9713
I tried to use the usb and dlna on my ST30 and ended up getting a boxee since nothing worked well and the upscaler is not good on the tv. I'd say the '50 series is the same:(

I tried a usb powered drive and it just clicks when I plug it into the tv. The cable that came with the enclosure has a seperate usb dongle for more power and even that doesn't work. The drive inside is a 100Gb IDE 2.5".

I agree with tpollagi and just get an hdmi media player, best advise.
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