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post #5941 of 9047
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Originally Posted by Freddyknuckles View Post

Well that is fascinating. it looks very much like what I have been seeing.
I wish I could remeber the commercial. It ran during the AFC Champiomship game the weekend befor last. It mas have been a CBS commercial.
The first movie I noticed it on was Looper.

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Originally Posted by ASiani View Post

I tried to find the commercial with not luck. Either way, I hope you get a great 2nd panel; I know the anticipation must be torture.

i think thats ll cool j and the grammys commercial
post #5942 of 9047
My bad. I think you are right. There was also an ad for the movie Pain & Gain and I got them mixed up.
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Originally Posted by swizzchard View Post


i think thats ll cool j and the grammys commercial
post #5943 of 9047
Well I went ahead and bit the bullet, even though, for whatever reason, no one can seem to give me a straight answer regarding the ABL on this set. Well, here's to hoping the TV can stay adequately bright. Oh, and that I can manage not to accidentally leave a still image on the TV for 10 hours straight. rolleyes.gif

Cheers.
post #5944 of 9047
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Originally Posted by JSpectre88 View Post

Well I went ahead and bit the bullet, even though, for whatever reason, no one can seem to give me a straight answer regarding the ABL on this set. Well, here's to hoping the TV can stay adequately bright. Oh, and that I can manage not to accidentally leave a still image on the TV for 10 hours straight. rolleyes.gif

Cheers.

The GT50 is bright enough for just about anyone. It can get eye searingly bright. A contrast setting of 96 in Custom is extremely bright...insanely bright. In Custom with a GT50, you will hit around 35 fL with a Contrast setting of about 80-81. In Custom with a GT50, you will hit around 48 fL with a Contrast setting of about 87-90. 35 fL is generally recommended for both Plasma and LCD/LED in a dark or dim lighting conditions, while 45 fL is generally the recommendation for both Plasma and LCD/LED in a bright room. These are the recommendations based upon the industry standards for film and television. The THX Bright Room picture mode is available if you really need surface of the sun type brightness.

The GT50 is going to handle light and reflections much better than your previous plasma, so that might help.
post #5945 of 9047
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Originally Posted by HD-Master View Post

The GT50 is bright enough for just about anyone. It can get eye searingly bright. A contrast setting of 96 in Custom is extremely bright...insanely bright. In Custom with a GT50, you will hit around 35 fL with a Contrast setting of about 80-81. In Custom with a GT50, you will hit around 48 fL with a Contrast setting of about 87-90. 35 fL is generally recommended for both Plasma and LCD/LED in a dark or dim lighting conditions, while 45 fL is generally the recommendation for both Plasma and LCD/LED in a bright room. These are the recommendations based upon the industry standards for film and television. The THX Bright Room picture mode is available if you really need surface of the sun type brightness.

The GT50 is going to handle light and reflections much better than your previous plasma, so that might help.

That is bright I need to watch with sunglasses on lol
post #5946 of 9047
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Originally Posted by defdog99 View Post

boy oh boy. My box store who's been selling the 60gt50 for $1932 forever...
and recently dropped it down to $1873.

Has skyrocketed the price up to $2193.

My guess is these TVs are now exhausted in the supply chain.

(3d glasses went up to $80 as well)

Just ordered a 60GT from BB today, hopefully the prices will continue to go down so I can get some price adjustments:)
post #5947 of 9047
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Originally Posted by eric102 View Post

Just ordered a 60GT from BB today, hopefully the prices will continue to go down so I can get some price adjustments:)

Well you got 30 days...biggrin.gif

Congrats btw!!!!
post #5948 of 9047
Just got my GT50 and I want to give it hte once over so I know that I got a good panel, any advice on the top things I need to look for to know if I need to return it early?
post #5949 of 9047
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Originally Posted by ASiani View Post

In that case, I do hope you have better luck the second time around. I'm from PA and i'm seeing blue streaks in content but only on scenes where there are flashlights, car lights, etc. but not at all times or for all lights in movies. I've played other content with spots on the screen that were equally as bright but saw no blue streaks which in my case just makes me think it's intended in some scenes. Out of curiosity, what was the Dwayne Johnson commerical advertising? I'd like to YouTube and take a look for myself.

Edit: Take a look at this link (scroll towards the bottom) Apparently there is a "blue streak" effects filter that is sometimes used on cameras. http://www.fdtimes.com/news/page/2/

Here is one example on that link:

This is exactly how I would describe the flare on my set. On some intense lights in a black scene where you would expect to see the flare, it isn't there. It only shows up on some things. I still have not decided if its tv related or part of the intended content. Either way, it isn't enough to care about.
Edited by tpollagi - 1/28/13 at 3:31pm
post #5950 of 9047
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Originally Posted by Freddyknuckles View Post

No more 55GT50's in inventory and no more coming in. They are talking about bumping me up to a 55VT50. Thoughts anyone? His offer was +$200. I said i am not paying more. He said he would have to speak to his supervisor and call me back. I know it's a better tv but i have read some things about the VT's having more subdude colors or not playing quite as bright ad the ST or the GT due to the better black filter. Can anyone advise? Time is of the essence as I am waiting for a call. Thank you very much.

If you want another opinion, I'd say no deal. The VT was a more expensive model but the extra features would have no value to me. I certainly would not pay extra for "stuff" I don't need or want.

If this is a defective TV they can not restock it; there should not be a restocking fee. They will return it to Panasonic and get full credit.
post #5951 of 9047
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Originally Posted by nick-t View Post

Just got my GT50 and I want to give it hte once over so I know that I got a good panel, any advice on the top things I need to look for to know if I need to return it early?

The only two real inconsistencies with these sets is buzzing and IR. It will either be quiet or it will have a buzz. It will either have a tendency to show IR or it will not. Glaringly obvious issues like half a missing picture or shattered glass are kinda easy to spot.
post #5952 of 9047
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Originally Posted by HD-Master View Post

The GT50 is bright enough for just about anyone. It can get eye searingly bright. A contrast setting of 96 in Custom is extremely bright...insanely bright. In Custom with a GT50, you will hit around 35 fL with a Contrast setting of about 80-81. In Custom with a GT50, you will hit around 48 fL with a Contrast setting of about 87-90. 35 fL is generally recommended for both Plasma and LCD/LED in a dark or dim lighting conditions, while 45 fL is generally the recommendation for both Plasma and LCD/LED in a bright room. These are the recommendations based upon the industry standards for film and television. The THX Bright Room picture mode is available if you really need surface of the sun type brightness.

The GT50 is going to handle light and reflections much better than your previous plasma, so that might help.

Thanks for the reply, I appreciate it. I know it's perfectly capable of being bright enough, and technically my first plasma was too. I was more referring to my earlier post, and more concerned if the TV will stay bright enough considering the ABL. I wont miss eye searingly bright backgrounds from my LCD, I just don't want to be able to notice a huge impact from ABL on my normal TV viewing. I really believe the TV should perform much better in that respect though, I have my fingers crossed at least.
post #5953 of 9047
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Originally Posted by JSpectre88 View Post

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Originally Posted by HD-Master View Post

The GT50 is bright enough for just about anyone. It can get eye searingly bright. A contrast setting of 96 in Custom is extremely bright...insanely bright. In Custom with a GT50, you will hit around 35 fL with a Contrast setting of about 80-81. In Custom with a GT50, you will hit around 48 fL with a Contrast setting of about 87-90. 35 fL is generally recommended for both Plasma and LCD/LED in a dark or dim lighting conditions, while 45 fL is generally the recommendation for both Plasma and LCD/LED in a bright room. These are the recommendations based upon the industry standards for film and television. The THX Bright Room picture mode is available if you really need surface of the sun type brightness.

The GT50 is going to handle light and reflections much better than your previous plasma, so that might help.

Thanks for the reply, I appreciate it. I know it's perfectly capable of being bright enough, and technically my first plasma was too. I was more referring to my earlier post, and more concerned if the TV will stay bright enough considering the ABL. I wont miss eye searingly bright backgrounds from my LCD, I just don't want to be able to notice a huge impact from ABL on my normal TV viewing. I really believe the TV should perform much better in that respect though, I have my fingers crossed at least.

Keep us posted! I'm interested to hear how it works for you.
post #5954 of 9047
has anyone compared this tv to a panny g25? thats my current tv. im curious if its brighter than the g25.
post #5955 of 9047
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Originally Posted by stansbrand View Post

has anyone compared this tv to a panny g25? thats my current tv. im curious if its brighter than the g25.

You can try this.

http://hdtvbychadb.com/resources/tv-reviews
post #5956 of 9047
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Originally Posted by stansbrand View Post

has anyone compared this tv to a panny g25? thats my current tv. im curious if its brighter than the g25.

I can chime in. I upgraded from my g25 to a gt50. The g25 went upstairs where the viewing is less critical and the gt50 went downstairs where it's more light controlled.

Custom mode can get crazy bright, way more than thx on g25. Custom on the g25 can also get bright but the gamma is so off it looks weird. Custom on gt50 not only is brighter but maintains a flat gamma curve with rich colors. Both my g25 and gt50 are professionally calibrated. If you need extreme sunglasses brightness the thx bright room can serve your needs. Thx cinema is somewhat muted on gt50. Since my calibration I've been using custom mode 100%.

If brightness is your concern, it shouldn't be. The gt50 has tons of output.
post #5957 of 9047
Thanks. What is ABL? Also, I have heard references to "plasma cant show hockey right", what is that all about? DSE?
post #5958 of 9047
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Originally Posted by davemchine View Post

tpollagi, thank you for the bluetooth advice. I bought that unit you linked to. I'll post back with results when everything arrives.

Dave

I gave it a try with the TV; worked fine. The GT wanted a password for the connection and recommended 1234 so I tried that and it paired without any hesitation. GT gives the option to disable the internal speaker when using the wireless audio connection. Volume works just as it should with the GT's remote. Very simple set-up overall. After suggesting this option several times in the past I guess it was about time to confirm that it actually works.
post #5959 of 9047
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Originally Posted by tpollagi View Post

The only two real inconsistencies with these sets is buzzing and IR. It will either be quiet or it will have a buzz. It will either have a tendency to show IR or it will not. Glaringly obvious issues like half a missing picture or shattered glass are kinda easy to spot.

How am I going to "test" for IR? I don't really want to just leave on CNN or a video game for a long time to see it.......Or is that exactly what i hsould do?
post #5960 of 9047
I just got a 60gt50 and am using a Sony Blu Ray player, but when I click "info" it indicates it is displaying in 720P. I've looked on my blu ray player but haven't found a setting that shows it would only be outputting in 720P. Does anyone have advice on how to fix this? Or does it say 720P while it really is in 1080P already?

I've tried to search for an answer but so far haven't found anything. Thank you for any help I get.
post #5961 of 9047
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Originally Posted by nick-t View Post

Thanks. What is ABL? Also, I have heard references to "plasma cant show hockey right", what is that all about? DSE?


ABL stands for Automatic Brightness Limiter. It's exactly what it sounds like, it's a built in limiter on the overall brightness of the set. It triggers when the set shows a scene that would be too bright, like a white background or hockey for example. Of course it doesn't have to be limited to just bright white images, but results can vary. So, instead of seeing a bright white background, you're going to see a dim looking off-white. The limiter tones down the brightness, reducing luminosity output, and therefore having a direct result on the color of the white. Hockey won't be quite as bad as a pure white background, but you're probably going to notice a drop in brightness. You won't see the drop though, but you can perceive that the picture is now darker or that it doesn't look as bright as it should be. DSE stands for Dirty Screen Effect, but I don't know the specifics about that.

Here's an example of ABL. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHndICrpxqs
Edited by JSpectre88 - 1/28/13 at 7:04pm
post #5962 of 9047
with all the IR and Burn-in talk, I am thinking about getting the bestbuy/geek squad protection plan for my 50GT50 that is coming this weekend. Anyone has any experience with their plan? I am wondering if the people that have IR or burn in put their TV in torch mode and this problem really isn't as widespread as it seem? I am currently stiill using a Panasonic plasma 50" in my bedroom that I paid $3k for it back in 2006, and I did get a protection plan with it, but this TV has been so solid, I basically wasted my money and got something out of the plan, that's why I opted out of a protection plan for the GT50.
post #5963 of 9047
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Originally Posted by nick-t View Post

How am I going to "test" for IR? I don't really want to just leave on CNN or a video game for a long time to see it.......Or is that exactly what i hsould do?

No, that's definitely not something you want to try and do. It's always best to avoid IR to the best of your abilities. I believe he just meant that some TV's may be more susceptible to IR than others. It would also be difficult to test whether or not your TV is more prone to IR, because the first 100+ hours of viewing is when the TV will be the most prone to IR.
Edited by JSpectre88 - 1/28/13 at 7:18pm
post #5964 of 9047
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Originally Posted by richardyc View Post

with all the IR and Burn-in talk, I am thinking about getting the bestbuy/geek squad protection plan for my 50GT50 that is coming this weekend. Anyone has any experience with their plan? I am wondering if the people that have IR or burn in put their TV in torch mode and this problem really isn't as widespread as it seem? I am currently stiill using a Panasonic plasma 50" in my bedroom that I paid $3k for it back in 2006, and I did get a protection plan with it, but this TV has been so solid, I basically wasted my money and got something out of the plan, that's why I opted out of a protection plan for the GT50.

I think you answered your own question. I was concerned about this overall myself, but from my readings I believe the GT50 to be a very solid performing set. I think if you take care of the set and do some protection yourself (Like running the image retention program weekly) you should be fine. This is totally your call though! Maybe another way to look at it is that you can take $30 and put it in a special account monthly this way in about five years time you'll have about $1800 or so towards a new OLED TV. It's all a crapshoot.
post #5965 of 9047
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Originally Posted by ASiani View Post

Thanks HD-Master!! You're too good to us

Very much agree! Just got my first 3-D Blu-ray movie… Avatar. I wanted something else but I went with the "classic". I am excited about trying your 3-D settings thanks again.

I forgot to mention I also found one of my favorite old classic movies now available in Blu-ray "Heavy Metal"! I am thoroughly looking forward to seeing this on the GT50.
post #5966 of 9047
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Originally Posted by JSpectre88 View Post

No, that's definitely not something you want to try and do. It's always best to avoid IR to the best of your abilities. I believe he just meant that some TV's may be more susceptible to IR than others.

Yes, exactly. If your set is prone to IR, it will probably reveal itself in normal use. So if you start to notice letters, menus, logo bugs, score boards ... and such hanging around where they don't belong then you may have a set more prone to IR. You probably will not have any problem but since you ask the question .....
post #5967 of 9047
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Originally Posted by richardyc View Post

with all the IR and Burn-in talk, I am thinking about getting the bestbuy/geek squad protection plan for my 50GT50 that is coming this weekend. Anyone has any experience with their plan? I am wondering if the people that have IR or burn in put their TV in torch mode and this problem really isn't as widespread as it seem? I am currently stiill using a Panasonic plasma 50" in my bedroom that I paid $3k for it back in 2006, and I did get a protection plan with it, but this TV has been so solid, I basically wasted my money and got something out of the plan, that's why I opted out of a protection plan for the GT50.

It's up to you if you want peace of mind for IR/BI. Someone else just wrote in that they used the Geek Squad warranty because they had IR or possibly BI and BB is replacing the set.
post #5968 of 9047
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Originally Posted by tpollagi View Post

Yes, exactly. If your set is prone to IR, it will probably reveal itself in normal use. So if you start to notice letters, menus, logo bugs, score boards ... and such hanging around where they don't belong then you may have a set more prone to IR. You probably will not have any problem but since you ask the question .....

Thanks. Sorry for my dumb interpretation of your helpful comment.
post #5969 of 9047
I totally didn't know the GT50 had built in Bluetooth for audio!

Can someone verify that the TV would stream BluRay, NetFlix (and Hulu/amazon/etc), and normal HD cable via Bluetooth to this thing... http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004VM1T5S/ref=olp_product_details?ie=UTF8&me=&seller=


My TV is going in a bedroom and I don't want to keep people in the bedroom right above me upstairs awake if I'm watching late at night. I have some real nice headphones I want to use in those situations but I wasn't sure how I would do tht with just optical out...
post #5970 of 9047
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Originally Posted by Freddyknuckles View Post

No more 55GT50's in inventory and no more coming in. They are talking about bumping me up to a 55VT50. Thoughts anyone? His offer was +$200. I said i am not paying more. He said he would have to speak to his supervisor and call me back. I know it's a better tv but i have read some things about the VT's having more subdude colors or not playing quite as bright ad the ST or the GT due to the better black filter. Can anyone advise? Time is of the essence as I am waiting for a call. Thank you very much.
Soooo....Hadn't heard from Paul's all day.
5:00 PM I called them and spoke to a rep that said he would e-mail a supervisor and would monitor the situation. If they did not get back in 2 hours he would go "tap them on the shoulder"
6:45 PM - Received a call from the warehouse who advised me my 55GT50 was back in stock and ready to ship. What day is good for me? Seriously? If this wasn't so pathetic it would be funny. When I told her that I had spoken to 3 other people today that was NOT the case, I was put on hold and when she came back I was told I was correct. The TV was not in stock and they would be getting no more. She said she doesn't know why she was told they were in and she would "forward this to a supervisor".
10:30 PM I called and spoke to a service rep who stated that the exchange for the GT50 for the VT50 was in the system and awaiting final processing. The first I had heard of it. He said a supervisor was "unavailable" and he PROMISED to call me by 6:00 PM EST tomorrow.
Fun.
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