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post #6091 of 9713
i know this probably has been asked many times but when you run the break in slides do you just let it run 100 hours straight or run the slides in a certain amount of hour intervals?
post #6092 of 9713
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Originally Posted by Irishlad147 View Post

Hi guys. I am new to this forum. This is a a very informative and helpful thread by the way. I got my 42" GT50 last Saturday. However, I noticed a few oddities and I will be returning the tv and getting it replaced with another GT50, hopefully issue free! My first issue was image retention. The IR only occurred in the lower left side of the screen whereas the rest of the screen was resistant to any form of IR. The other issue was in that same area of the screen, I noticed the screen seemed dirty or blotchy. It was only noticeable when watching football with the green colour and fast panning of the screen. It was subtle but off putting nonetheless.

I first noticed the image retention in netflix through the smart tv feature. One of the movie thumbnails remained on the screen. I noticed it when the screen saver with the blue background came on. Straight away I could see the left side of the screen was not as clean and uniform as the right side. Like most of the people on this forum I am very observant and I have eagle eyes for the smallest of anomalies. I do not think it is normal that I should be getting IR from a still that is only on the screen for 5 minutes max, at which point the screen saver activates.

A panasonic tech came out to my house and thankfully has agreed that my tv is faulty and I should not be experiencing these issues. Another strange thing I noticed today was the black borders around the screen. I was seeing unusual black borders on all sides of the screen. The image should be right up tight to the bezel. I am aware that it can depend on the source but the odd border behaviour was on all sources and it was very distracting and unpleasant to look at. I think this was an issue that was raised on another thread and maybe this one too? Anyway, suddenly my borders are back to normal. They are now fitting nice and snug up against the bezel, left and right side. Very strange? I did change the aspect ratio to auto and then back to 16:9. Maybe this resolved it? Seems like there is a bit of a glitch regarding the borders and picture settings perhaps? Maybe my gt50 got confused!

Finally, I hear people talking about FULLscreen, HD size 1 and 2. Where can I find these settings? I do not see these settings anywhere! I have aspect ratio auto, 16:9, 14:9, 4:3, zoom 1,2,and 3. I have no other options apart from overscan on and off. Am I missing something guys? What is this FULL screen option? Maybe it's different between uk and Ireland and American models. The settings are names differently perhaps?

When I get my new set I am definitely going to avoid the netflix app for the first few weeks! In fact, I am just going to avoid any apps in the smart tv for the first few weeks. Why is there no pixel orbiter setting when using the Internet smart tv features? They have a screen saver but is there a reason why they don't have the pixel orbiter as an option?

Do you guys recommend that I break the tv in with a safe source or coloured slides this time? Finally, after 150 to 200 period will I be able to relax, enjoy the tv and play games without having to worry about burn in or crazy IR? I'm a passionate gamer. Apologies for the novel but I guess I am just looking for some peace of mind because nobody likes a faulty tv and the whole return to seller scenario. Slightly stressed to say the least. I would appreciate any advice, feedback and peace of mind that you guys can give me.

Things do differ between the North American and international models. You would be better served by visiting http://www.avforums.com/ instead. They will very helpful with your GT50 there!
post #6093 of 9713
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Originally Posted by j0hnnyyyy View Post

i know this probably has been asked many times but when you run the break in slides do you just let it run 100 hours straight or run the slides in a certain amount of hour intervals?
Whatever works for your schedule. It doesn't matter. I just watch TV, no black bars zoomed in, and no long sessions with channels with a super white logo. It looks surprisingly good even zoomed in! Then enjoy to the fullest after ~150hrs.
post #6094 of 9713
I have a 65" GT50 on the way from Amazon and was hoping to find recommended initial settings. Did a search but there does not appear to be a settings only thread for the GT50, just the VT50. Could someone point me in the right direction, or would the VT50 settings a good starting point ? Thanks.
post #6095 of 9713
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by stash64 View Post

I have a 65" GT50 on the way from Amazon and was hoping to find recommended initial settings. Did a search but there does not appear to be a settings only thread for the GT50, just the VT50. Could someone point me in the right direction, or would the VT50 settings a good starting point ? Thanks.

Did you check post #1 of this thread? wink.gif
post #6096 of 9713
I have a question regarding picture settings. Would you say that these settings are universal or do they play more to a persons taste? I don't mean, are one persons settings going to look exactly the same on another persons set. I'm more curious if a perfectly accurate calibration would actually look good to any given person. I assume that you would have to appreciate a natural, correct looking display in the first place. For example, I used the CNET settings when I had my U50, but I had to change the settings to normal or even cool1 from warm2. The warmer picture just didn't look very good to me, and the cooler one seemed more accurate. It would be one thing if accurate settings made the TV look better (to me) than I could do on my own through eye-balling it, but it seems like the entire process is subjective. I think it's pretty safe to say that I have just gotten used to watching an incorrect picture over the years. I have to wonder if it's actually worth it then to try and get adjusted to the correct settings or to keep using settings that I think look good. At the very least, should I make an honest attempt to try and get used to a more realistic, accurate picture?
post #6097 of 9713
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Originally Posted by j0hnnyyyy View Post

i know this probably has been asked many times but when you run the break in slides do you just let it run 100 hours straight or run the slides in a certain amount of hour intervals?
If you've set is to repeat, then let it run.
post #6098 of 9713
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Originally Posted by jbdan View Post

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Originally Posted by j0hnnyyyy View Post

i know this probably has been asked many times but when you run the break in slides do you just let it run 100 hours straight or run the slides in a certain amount of hour intervals?
Whatever works for your schedule. It doesn't matter. I just watch TV, no black bars zoomed in, and no long sessions with channels with a super white logo. It looks surprisingly good even zoomed in! Then enjoy to the fullest after ~150hrs.
That works for me too if you watch a variety of source materials after the 150 hours.
post #6099 of 9713
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Originally Posted by JSpectre88 View Post

I have a question regarding picture settings. Would you say that these settings are universal or do they play more to a persons taste? I don't mean, are one persons settings going to look exactly the same on another persons set. I'm more curious if a perfectly accurate calibration would actually look good to any given person. I assume that you would have to appreciate a natural, correct looking display in the first place. For example, I used the CNET settings when I had my U50, but I had to change the settings to normal or even cool1 from warm2. The warmer picture just didn't look very good to me, and the cooler one seemed more accurate. It would be one thing if accurate settings made the TV look better (to me) than I could do on my own through eye-balling it, but it seems like the entire process is subjective. I think it's pretty safe to say that I have just gotten used to watching an incorrect picture over the years. I have to wonder if it's actually worth it then to try and get adjusted to the correct settings or to keep using settings that I think look good. At the very least, should I make an honest attempt to try and get used to a more realistic, accurate picture?
The process is not subjective but the opinions of the results are. A professional calibrates the tv to certain standards that are considered proper and true. But if the owner thinks that it looks terrible then that standard is irrelevant. You should set your tv however it looks good to you.
post #6100 of 9713
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Originally Posted by HD-Master View Post

Things do differ between the North American and international models. You would be better served by visiting http://www.avforums.com/ instead. They will very helpful with your GT50 there!

Thanks for the reply. I will go to your link so. Cheers
post #6101 of 9713
Hi guys. I have the break in Colour slides on a USB stick. At what speed should I run the slides at in slide show mode? Slow, medium, or fast? Is it safe to leave the tv on for hours on end? Can I turn it off and give it a break during the break in period? People recommend the discovery channel as a good source but the discovery channel has a logo on the screen. Surely that's not ideal!? Thanks in advance guys. The picture on the gt50 is perfect. The colours are spot on!
post #6102 of 9713
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Originally Posted by Irishlad147 View Post

Hi guys. I have the break in Colour slides on a USB stick. At what speed should I run the slides at in slide show mode? Slow, medium, or fast? Is it safe to leave the tv on for hours on end? Can I turn it off and give it a break during the break in period? People recommend the discovery channel as a good source but the discovery channel has a logo on the screen. Surely that's not ideal!? Thanks in advance guys. The picture on the gt50 is perfect. The colours are spot on!
Slow.

I ran the slides continuously for 150 hours, with breaks for watching normal full-screen TV in evening and off-time when I went to bed at night. Took about 8 days. Just finished a couple of days ago.

Mostly I ran slides just to evenly age pixels as their settings here seem to be irrelevant to European TV. Best to find settings to fit your specific display.
post #6103 of 9713
HD-Master, Your 3D settings are just general settings, correct? What mean is, there would be no difference in say contrast or brightness if I were in a completely dark room while viewing 3D material?
post #6104 of 9713
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Originally Posted by TIME2PLAYDAGAME View Post

HD-Master, Your 3D settings are just general settings, correct? What mean is, there would be no difference in say contrast or brightness if I were in a completely dark room while viewing 3D material?

Correct. It's a nice balance for both situations. Probably not best for the brightest of rooms, but not many people will be using 3D in conditions like that anyway.
post #6105 of 9713
Hi all. First post newbie here. I got a 55 GT50 in December after 18 years with a 20" Proscan (FINALLY!!), the depth finder as a friend call it. I paired the TV up with an Oppo 103. The sound is going through a Yamaha 2095 and Paradigm Monitor 9ses with "matching" surrounds.

Coming from a 20" TV needless to say I'm astounded by the picture. With just a bit of research I think I'm using the THX Cinema mode and have Cox HD piped in.

One issue that is bugging me, though is that I do have some picture stutter when the motion is moving horizontally. As far as cable setup goes (in case this is the issue), this is it: Cox box - HDMI - Oppo. Oppo - HDMI - TV. Oppo - optical (Toslink) - 2095. I'm using the stock Oppo cable from the Oppo to TV and a Monoprice Ultraslim Redmere from the Oppo to the Cox box.

Also, the sound and picture become unsynced if watching one program for a while. Flipping channels alleviates this.

What are your thoughts on this, please?

Thank you.
post #6106 of 9713
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Originally Posted by Hughski68 View Post

Hi all. First post newbie here. I got a 55 GT50 in December after 18 years with a 20" Proscan (FINALLY!!), the depth finder as a friend call it. I paired the TV up with an Oppo 103. The sound is going through a Yamaha 2095 and Paradigm Monitor 9ses with "matching" surrounds.

Coming from a 20" TV needless to say I'm astounded by the picture. With just a bit of research I think I'm using the THX Cinema mode and have Cox HD piped in.

One issue that is bugging me, though is that I do have some picture stutter when the motion is moving horizontally. As far as cable setup goes (in case this is the issue), this is it: Cox box - HDMI - Oppo. Oppo - HDMI - TV. Oppo - optical (Toslink) - 2095. I'm using the stock Oppo cable from the Oppo to TV and a Monoprice Ultraslim Redmere from the Oppo to the Cox box.

Also, the sound and picture become unsynced if watching one program for a while. Flipping channels alleviates this.

What are your thoughts on this, please?

Thank you.

What resolution is the cox box sending out? My Tivo was set to output 720 or 1080 depending on the content. I changed to 1080 only and saw improvememts. Its been mention on these forums that the built in 720 > 1080 upscaler isnt too good in the pannasonic. Give it a try. Also try HD Masters settings to turn off all the unneeded image filters.
post #6107 of 9713
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

The process is not subjective but the opinions of the results are. A professional calibrates the tv to certain standards that are considered proper and true. But if the owner thinks that it looks terrible then that standard is irrelevant. You should set your tv however it looks good to you.

Yes, that's more or less what I had intended to say. I agree with your sentiment as well, but I assume that at some point everyone probably had to get used to a more correct looking display. I think I will give it a shot though, I set my LCD to warm, and dialed back the bright over saturated colors as a way to prepare myself. It immediately looked worse to my eye, but I left the settings like that and in a few hours it was starting to grow on me. The only thing I thought that just looked plain awful was American Dad, but then again you wouldn't exactly want a natural looking cartoon, so that's understandable. I know my old LCD isn't even close to the picture quality of a plasma, but I figure it's a start.
post #6108 of 9713
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Originally Posted by kevreh View Post

What resolution is the cox box sending out? My Tivo was set to output 720 or 1080 depending on the content. I changed to 1080 only and saw improvememts. Its been mention on these forums that the built in 720 > 1080 upscaler isnt too good in the pannasonic. Give it a try. Also try HD Masters settings to turn off all the unneeded image filters.

I think it depends on the channel. I see the designation switch around when changing channels. At least I think it is doing this. I'll look up those settings. Thanks.
post #6109 of 9713
Well, I broke down, or saw the light. Depending on how one sees it. Ordered my 50" from Amazon, great price...at least I think so. Cheaper than it was when I first looked and was going to get the ST50 for *almost* the same price.

It will take a while to get to me, since I live on a Military base just off the coast, but should have it in a few weeks.

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How long has it been, now? tongue.gif
post #6110 of 9713
I just recently purchase a 60GT50 and it probably ran 20 hours.

I have 2 questions, first I read about some break-in period about 100 hours. Do I need to break it in? If so how do I do that?

Second, I'm watching a nature HD tv show and you see a scenery from a plane point of view down to water and trees. The picture moves and it seems that every 3 seconds, the picture refreshes and you see the new color tones from the picture adjust since the plane moves and from a different point of view, the color tones are different, but they don't change fluidly, only like every 3 seconds. Is there any settings I have to set?

Thanks.
post #6111 of 9713
Hey guys,

Proud new owner of a 65" GT50. Awesome. Moving up from an LG 42"LCD which has been a great tv for me.

Question about the stand the TV comes with. I am placing the TV on a custom made wood entertainment stand. I would like to have a LCR speaker or a sound bar but the TV is so close to the top of the TV stand, that the front speaker blocks the bottom of the screen. Does anyone know of any solutions/alternate Pannny stands that elevates the TV just a bit? Just thinking.

Scott
post #6112 of 9713
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Originally Posted by bobthesnake View Post

I just recently purchase a 60GT50 and it probably ran 20 hours.

I have 2 questions, first I read about some break-in period about 100 hours. Do I need to break it in? If so how do I do that?

Second, I'm watching a nature HD tv show and you see a scenery from a plane point of view down to water and trees. The picture moves and it seems that every 3 seconds, the picture refreshes and you see the new color tones from the picture adjust since the plane moves and from a different point of view, the color tones are different, but they don't change fluidly, only like every 3 seconds. Is there any settings I have to set?

Thanks.

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1454904/my-manual-doesnt-say-anything-about-break-in-important
post #6113 of 9713
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Originally Posted by drscottdo View Post

Hey guys,

Proud new owner of a 65" GT50. Awesome. Moving up from an LG 42"LCD which has been a great tv for me.

Question about the stand the TV comes with. I am placing the TV on a custom made wood entertainment stand. I would like to have a LCR speaker or a sound bar but the TV is so close to the top of the TV stand, that the front speaker blocks the bottom of the screen. Does anyone know of any solutions/alternate Pannny stands that elevates the TV just a bit? Just thinking.

Scott

I had the same situation on my 50g25. I had a spare 3/4 inch shelf shelf laying around and stuck some rubber feet on the bottom and it raises the TV about an inch, just enough to keep the remote sensor from being blocked by the soundbar. I don't know how big the stand is on the 65gt50 but a 16 x 20 shelf should work. I found my new 55gt50 did not need to be raised but the soundbar (Panasonic) is only 3 inches high.

Mike in Mich
post #6114 of 9713
Has anyone been able to pair an iPod/iPad? When I try it gets an error. Using 0000, 1111, and 1234.
post #6115 of 9713
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Originally Posted by synistr View Post

Has anyone been able to pair an iPod/iPad? When I try it gets an error. Using 0000, 1111, and 1234.

When you say pair, I'm assuming you are talking about Bluetooth ? If so, pairing won't do much for you. The Bluetooth is there for audio out and a keyboard in. There is a Viera app for I-pad that runs over wifi if you are looking to push pictures and video to the gt50. It also has full remote control capabilities but I prefer the gt50's remote.
post #6116 of 9713
Yeah, could do without that bluster.

Anyway, got my 65GT50 yesterday and tuned it up with HD-Master's settings with a little fine tuning on my end, Such a fine set and so far none of the issues I've read about here. Many thanks to all who have posted their experiences and especially to HD-Master for the calibration posts.
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post #6118 of 9713
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Originally Posted by drscottdo View Post

Hey guys,

Proud new owner of a 65" GT50. Awesome. Moving up from an LG 42"LCD which has been a great tv for me.

Question about the stand the TV comes with. I am placing the TV on a custom made wood entertainment stand. I would like to have a LCR speaker or a sound bar but the TV is so close to the top of the TV stand, that the front speaker blocks the bottom of the screen. Does anyone know of any solutions/alternate Pannny stands that elevates the TV just a bit? Just thinking.

Scott

Take a look at the yamaha soundbars, they have built in IR repeaters and a flasher on the back which is designed just for your situation. I've been looking at the YAS-101 model for my bedroom, a little over $200.
post #6119 of 9713
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Originally Posted by Arfie View Post

Yeah, could do without that bluster.

Anyway, got my 65GT50 yesterday and tuned it up with HD-Master's settings with a little fine tuning on my end, Such a fine set and so far none of the issues I've read about here. Many thanks to all who have posted their experiences and especially to HD-Master for the calibration posts.

You may want to watch your new set in standard mode for several hours before running it in custom mode. HD-Masters settings are great, I am running them, but you should let the set settle in a bit first. Anyway thats what I did and many have stated that here also. Some actually run the D-nice slides but I just watched my set in standard mode and changed the channel every so often. No issues here! Got to the first page of this thread and check it out..........lots of great info there.
post #6120 of 9713
I had the 60GT50 for 2 weeks. Decided that the 60Hz flickering at high contrast and the rainbow I can see were too annoying. I returned the GT50 yesterday.

When I returned to Bestbuy, I told them I can see rainbow and flickering but I think the set is normal. They opened the box, plugged the TV and turned it on. They told me "We're so sorry. This set is defective b/c of too much flickering.". They keep apologizing for the trouble I went through. I was a bit surprised to hear they said it's "defective" but I had a nice shopping experience.

Now I have a LED TV - no flickering, no rainbow. But it has clouding, bad viewing angles, the black wasn't as good as GT50. I am missing the picture quality of GT50. I gave it a few days to see if I can live with the rainbow. It started when my peripheral vision was looking the caption on the movie and now I can see rainbow at high contrast scene. When seeing that, it distract my attention from normal viewing and my eyes become tired overtime. After 100 hours burn-in, I gave up.

I have 90 days with the LED TV. At the end I'd have to decide which evil I can live with.
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