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post #6481 of 9713
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Originally Posted by wattheF View Post

The 3D is great. As you may expect the experience will vary based on the content. Some of the animated titles are fun but Avatar is amazing!

The Panasonic glasses IMO are best. They are lightweight and they have sides that block out ambient light. They also can be switched from 3D to 2D. I gave the cheaper Samsung glasses a try but i found they flashed annoyingly every few seconds, so i returned them and payed the extra for the Panasonic glasses.
Fully agree.

If you plan to get glasses. Get the Panasonic one. I did. No regreats.
post #6482 of 9713
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Originally Posted by HD-Master View Post

I've spent the last few hours doing some testing on my GT50, with Chad's earlier information being my focus. I have to say, after getting everything dialed in and taking some time to test material, I prefer "Wide" as well. So, with that in mind...I will updating my settings in just a moment.

As always, use what works best for you. That may happy to be settings posted by someone else, an earlier version of my own settings, the default settings, or what you come up with on your own! Enjoy!
Let us know when you've updated em
post #6483 of 9713
My settings have been removed following the actions of JSpectre88.
Edited by HD-Master - 2/26/13 at 10:38pm
post #6484 of 9713
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Originally Posted by acarney View Post

Ya, it was only when the difference between the ST and GT (at least with the 50 inch) was only $49 (!!) that the GT became a no brainer. If even the ST has lets say 90% of the picture quality (unless in a weird uncontrollable light condition) and it's hundreds of dollars less, it's the smart move. If 96hz was available in 3D mode on the VT and it worked well then that might have been a big selling point, but honestly the only selling points for me was the single sheet of glass (would have looked fancy pants) and the extra 5 inch... for $600 more mad.gif

The fact that CNET found some flicker in 96hz mode and they actually preferred going back to the standard 60hz for 2D kind of killed that step up feature for me. And it almost sounds like in 3D mode to reduce cross talk they recommend using 48hz which the GT has. So... what benefits does the VT have that's worth $600 to someone that doesn't plan on spending $400+ on calibration.....

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Originally Posted by Iain- View Post

I had ST50 for one week when I discovered that GT50 had "1080P Pure Direct" mode. This is a must-have feature IMO, as ST50 are lacking this mode.

Within the following week, that ST50 was exchanged for my current GT50. This was well worth the effort to do so.

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Originally Posted by wattheF View Post

All I know is cnet along with numerous other review sites said that the PQ difference between the GT and ST was next to nuthing if anything at all. I don't use THX or the extra HDMI. The only reason I went with the GT is because it looked nicer and I got such a good deal on it.
The fact that panasonic is doing away with the GT also shows you that they are basically the same TV.
Also my GT50 suffered from bad IR and starting developing banding issues. I think I will give the new models a shot. Hopefully they have worked out some kinks and maybe even improved video processing and overall PQ.
I agree that ST50 and GT50 basically have same PQ. No difference until you realise that GT50 have "1080P Pure Direct" feature.

I see significantly improved PQ of GT50 with this feature enabled for 1080P 4:4:4 source material. When feature is disabled, no difference of PQ.

Having that feature as a readily available option is a requirement, IMO.

BTW, after 3 weeks of ownership of my GT50, I have none of the anomalies you have noted. Very stable and robust bit of kit. wink.gif
post #6485 of 9713
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Originally Posted by Ejs71 View Post

Hi all.. been a while..Ive had my 60GT50 for about 5 months now.. and its been really broke in good. I've got a great Oppo player Im using it to play BD's. I almost forgot that my tv (and my Oppo) plays 3D BD's. One thing I never bought was 3D glasses.

Does anyone use the GT50 for 3D? If so, how is it? I guess I would buy Avatar first. It's what everyone recomends.

Besides the $60 glasses (for one pair) made by Panasonic.. does anyone use any other brands that are made for GT Panny's? Or would it be best to stick with the Panny glasses.. Its just I dont feel like spending $120 on glasses......

If you had done a little searching you'll find tons of people are using the inexpensive Samsung SSG-4100GB Active 3D Glasses glasses with their various 2012 Panasonic TVs. The design and build quality isn't nearly as good as the Panasonic glasses, but they're 1/3rd the price. I got a pair from Amazon a few months ago for $16 to play around with and i sometimes (rarely) use them to convert 2D to 3D if i'm in the mood, but i'm just not into the whole 3D thing. Some people buy the cheap Samsungs for their kids, but buy the expensive Panasonics for the adults.
post #6486 of 9713
Ejs71 the Sammy 4100's work well, just as good PQ as the Panasonic glasses with the caveat of external light bleed/reflections behind you. That includes the light coming off the TV reflecting on your face back into the outer edges of the inside of the lenses. Might not bother some. Overall the Panasonic glasses are much more comfortable over a longer period.

If you're going to using the 3D get both like others have mentioned. Let guests/kids use the Sammy. I will say I've had a pair of the Panasonic glasses break. They are quite fragile imo. Use with care.

For optimum 3D viewing I like hdmasters 3d settings and a pitch black room. "the ultimate wave Tahiti" "avatar" "imax hubble" are some good material for 3d!
post #6487 of 9713
Yay more new settings to try! Thanks again master
post #6488 of 9713
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Originally Posted by jbdan View Post


For optimum 3D viewing I like hdmasters 3d settings and a pitch black room. "the ultimate wave Tahiti" "avatar" "imax hubble" are some good material for 3d!

I have those three 3D BD's as well and they are terrific. One of my other favorite non-animated 3D BD's is actually a conversion...Titanic. It is extremely well done.
post #6489 of 9713
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Originally Posted by HD-Master View Post

I have those three 3D BD's as well and they are terrific. One of my other favorite non-animated 3D BD's is actually a conversion...Titanic. It is extremely well done.

I've heard that echoed just about everywhere I've been reading. I'll have to get that one next! It's a great movie indeed.
post #6490 of 9713
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Originally Posted by Iain- View Post

I had ST50 for one week when I discovered that GT50 had "1080P Pure Direct" mode. This is a must-have feature IMO, as ST50 are lacking this mode.

Within the following week, that ST50 was exchanged for my current GT50. This was well worth the effort to do so.

Thanks for the info. On my GT50 when I go to the custom settings and then advanced picture I see the 1080P Pure Direct feature. But it is greyed out and says NO. It will not allow me to go in and select it to say YES to enable it.

How did you get yours to enable. What might I be missing here.

Thanks in advance for your help.
post #6491 of 9713
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Originally Posted by hidef1099 View Post

Thanks for the info. On my GT50 when I go to the custom settings and then advanced picture I see the 1080P Pure Direct feature. But it is greyed out and says NO. It will not allow me to go in and select it to say YES to enable it.

How did you get yours to enable. What might I be missing here.

Thanks in advance for your help.
iirc it will only be available upon a 1080p input connection

edit: 5150 below better answers. My cable box sends a 4:4:4 1080p60 signal to my gt50 I just checked the cable box menu. Thought it was just 1080p dependent my bad
post #6492 of 9713
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Originally Posted by hidef1099 View Post

Thanks for the info. On my GT50 when I go to the custom settings and then advanced picture I see the 1080P Pure Direct feature. But it is greyed out and says NO. It will not allow me to go in and select it to say YES to enable it.

How did you get yours to enable. What might I be missing here.

Thanks in advance for your help.

You MUST send the GT50 a 4-4-4 color space signal in order for the 1080 Pure Direct to be enabled. You do that in the menu of your source player (Blu-ray).
post #6493 of 9713
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Originally Posted by Iain- View Post



I agree that ST50 and GT50 basically have same PQ. No difference until you realise that GT50 have "1080P Pure Direct" feature.

I see significantly improved PQ of GT50 with this feature enabled for 1080P 4:4:4 source material. When feature is disabled, no difference of PQ.

Having that feature as a readily available option is a requirement, IMO.

BTW, after 3 weeks of ownership of my GT50, I have none of the anomalies you have noted. Very stable and robust bit of kit. wink.gif

Hmm..so it makes that big a difference huh? I went back and forth between the two the other day and didn't notice much change if any. Could it have to do with the fact that mine is 55" so you see it more on the 65"?
Maybe I just wasn't paying enough attention?

Will the ST60 have 1080p pure direct? Or will I have to step up to the VT now to get it?

Can anyone else weigh in on how important this mode is and if they notice a difference in the PQ with it on? I would do it myself but unfortunetly I no longer have a tv.:-(
post #6494 of 9713
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Originally Posted by wattheF View Post

Hmm..so it makes that big a difference huh? I went back and forth between the two the other day and didn't notice much change if any. Could it have to do with the fact that mine is 55" so you see it more on the 65"?
Maybe I just wasn't paying enough attention?

Will the ST60 have 1080p pure direct? Or will I have to step up to the VT now to get it?

Can anyone else weigh in on how important this mode is and if they notice a difference in the PQ with it on? I would do it myself but unfortunetly I no longer have a tv.:-(

I've done just a couple of A>B comparisons with both my GT50 and VT50, and frankly, I don't really see any differences. I just want the cleanest signal possible from my Oppo to my display, that's the only reason I enable it. Sending a 4-2-2 signal probably looks identical or nearly so...
post #6495 of 9713
Guys THANKS for all the great feedback!!!
post #6496 of 9713
HD-Master, I just dialed in D-Nice VT50 setting on my 55VT50 last night and they are noticeably better than either of the THX modes. I've been following this thread for some time though as I had first received a 55GT50 that had a defect, so my replacement was the upgrade. This meant that I never got to use your wonderfully provided settings frown.gif

I see that you have settings for Viera Connect additional to Day and Night and was wondering if it is a separate setting purely since there is only one custom in that mode meaning you had to cut the difference and get the brightness somewhere in-between?

Also, how much of a difference did you find going from normal to wide made? I imagine that making that change required adjusting many other settings, but wouldn't even know where to begin with the VT50, especially considering the huge amount of additional settings from the 10-point menus. I'm very happy with my set, but at the same time enjoy seeing your contributions (both settings and in general through these forums) and have some envy for the GT50 owners that get your TLC. We need to put you in a locked room with a VT50 for a few weeks armed with an Oppo, some blu-rays, calibration tools and an internet connection wink.gif.
post #6497 of 9713
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Originally Posted by penguin22 View Post

HD-Master, I just dialed in D-Nice VT50 setting on my 55VT50 last night and they are noticeably better than either of the THX modes. I've been following this thread for some time though as I had first received a 55GT50 that had a defect, so my replacement was the upgrade. This meant that I never got to use your wonderfully provided settings frown.gif

I see that you have settings for Viera Connect additional to Day and Night and was wondering if it is a separate setting purely since there is only one custom in that mode meaning you had to cut the difference and get the brightness somewhere in-between?

Also, how much of a difference did you find going from normal to wide made? I imagine that making that change required adjusting many other settings, but wouldn't even know where to begin with the VT50, especially considering the huge amount of additional settings from the 10-point menus. I'm very happy with my set, but at the same time enjoy seeing your contributions (both settings and in general through these forums) and have some envy for the GT50 owners that get your TLC. We need to put you in a locked room with a VT50 for a few weeks armed with an Oppo, some blu-rays, calibration tools and an internet connection wink.gif.
You had both a vt and gt?
post #6498 of 9713
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Originally Posted by penguin22 View Post


I see that you have settings for Viera Connect additional to Day and Night and was wondering if it is a separate setting purely since there is only one custom in that mode meaning you had to cut the difference and get the brightness somewhere in-between?

Since there is only one set of picture modes in Viera Connect...I could only calibrate for one of the two lighting environment (day or night). I didn't really go for a mid-point. I only use Viera Connect at night really, so I calibrated with that in mind.

Now, I may...for the sake of giving people options...do a day, mid, and night calibration the next time.
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Originally Posted by penguin22 View Post


Also, how much of a difference did you find going from normal to wide made? I imagine that making that change required adjusting many other settings, but wouldn't even know where to begin with the VT50, especially considering the huge amount of additional settings from the 10-point menus.

I saw exactly what Chad mentioned. I had to turn the Color setting down a bit more with Wide compared to Normal. While it required more 2-pt adjustment the result was a lower average dE and more consistent greyscale, gamma, and color temperature.
post #6499 of 9713
Well I caught the IR bug on my 55 GT50 (build date is December 2012)

the EPSN logo in the bottom right and the Fox Soccer log in the top right are plain as day with any kind of solid color behind them for weeks after only watching a handful of hours of those channels. I'm talking like two basketball or soccer games with a few days of each other.

fairly sure it will go away over time but it's sad that I have to shy away from watching those channels now

IR is real and I am sad now frown.gif

TV is just out of the return window
Edited by ispeck - 2/12/13 at 3:25pm
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Loving the new color wide settings HD Master. Been watching most of my favorite movies to test it out and I have to say I feel the picture looks clearer and more alive. Seems like the whites are whiter or maybe brighter. The only thing I changed is having my contrast at 80 instead of 78. Just a personal preference. Feel like a get a new t.v every month when I check this forum out. All you guys are awesome!!
post #6501 of 9713
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Originally Posted by Matthew Cole View Post

Loving the new color wide settings HD Master. Been watching most of my favorite movies to test it out and I have to say I feel the picture looks clearer and more alive. Seems like the whites are whiter or maybe brighter. The only thing I changed is having my contrast at 80 instead of 78. Just a personal preference. Feel like a get a new t.v every month when I check this forum out. All you guys are awesome!!

A shout out should go to Chad B as well smile.gif
post #6502 of 9713
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Originally Posted by HD-Master View Post

MY NEW SETTINGS
Night - Day - VIERA Connect - 3D

Just a few notes:
  • Following information provided by Chad B, I have moved from a setting of "Normal" to "Wide" in the Pro Settings menu for my 2D settings.
  • I have added settings for VIERA Connect. (Netflix, Hulu Plus, Amazon Instant, VUDU, etc.) Note: These settings have not been updated to incorporate my move from "Normal" to "Wide" in the Pro Settings menu.
  • My 2D settings have not changed from the previous version (from 1/19/2013). I have only added the 3D settings in this edition.
  • 3D settings have been added! Please note that the "Color temp" setting is Warm1. Note: These settings have not been updated to incorporate my move from "Normal" to "Wide" in the Pro Settings menu.
  • The "Night" settings are at about 34 fL and the "Day" settings are at about 48 fL.
  • I use a ViewHD 2 Port HDMI 1x2 Powered Splitter. All of my sources are sent from the HDMI output from my AVR to the splitter. Then split to HDMI 1 and HDMI 2 on my GT50. HDMI 1 has my Day settings, while HDMI 2 has my Night settings. I use a Harmony One remote, with two activities for each function (Watch TV - Day, Watch TV - Night, Watch Blu-ray Day, Watch Blu-ray Night, etc.).

My GT50 is not identical to any other GT50. The following settings may work well on your TV or they may not. Find what works best for you and enjoy!



Hi.. these are great!! my only problem is I only have 1 Custom setting.. I dont want to make all these adjustments every time I wan to switch from Day to Night.. Is there a way to add extra Settings?!
post #6503 of 9713
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Originally Posted by Ejs71 View Post

Hi.. these are great!! my only problem is I only have 1 Custom setting.. I dont want to make all these adjustments every time I wan to switch from Day to Night.. Is there a way to add extra Settings?!

He uses an HDMI switch and uses two hdmi ports one for day one for night
post #6504 of 9713
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Originally Posted by chunon View Post

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Originally Posted by Matthew Cole View Post

Loving the new color wide settings HD Master. Been watching most of my favorite movies to test it out and I have to say I feel the picture looks clearer and more alive. Seems like the whites are whiter or maybe brighter. The only thing I changed is having my contrast at 80 instead of 78. Just a personal preference. Feel like a get a new t.v every month when I check this forum out. All you guys are awesome!!

A shout out should go to Chad B as well smile.gif

I agree! He's one of the best in the business. I made sure to mention him in my notes at the beginning of my settings post.
post #6505 of 9713
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Originally Posted by Ejs71 View Post

Hi.. these are great!! my only problem is I only have 1 Custom setting.. I dont want to make all these adjustments every time I wan to switch from Day to Night.. Is there a way to add extra Settings?!

My solution has been to connect the separate main and sub hdmi outputs on my AVR to separate HDMI inputs on my panel and to use one input for day settings and one for night settings.
post #6506 of 9713
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Originally Posted by chunon View Post

A shout out should go to Chad B as well smile.gif
Opps. Thanks Chad B too. smile.gif Watching Bruins, Rangers now. Best hockey has ever looked on my t.v. I have a samsung led in the other room and hockey never looked this good. Happy guy here. biggrin.gif
post #6507 of 9713
With all the raves I have to try the new settings. Thanks to Chad B and HD-Master. Hope to have Chad B do the Pro calibration for me in a couple of months when I get my new speaker set up as I will probably have him do the whole enchilada.
post #6508 of 9713
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Originally Posted by Iain- View Post



I agree that ST50 and GT50 basically have same PQ. No difference until you realise that GT50 have "1080P Pure Direct" feature.

I see significantly improved PQ of GT50 with this feature enabled for 1080P 4:4:4 source material. When feature is disabled, no difference of PQ.

Having that feature as a readily available option is a requirement, IMO.

BTW, after 3 weeks of ownership of my GT50, I have none of the anomalies you have noted. Very stable and robust bit of kit. wink.gif

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Originally Posted by wattheF View Post

Hmm..so it makes that big a difference huh? I went back and forth between the two the other day and didn't notice much change if any. Could it have to do with the fact that mine is 55" so you see it more on the 65"?
Maybe I just wasn't paying enough attention?

Will the ST60 have 1080p pure direct? Or will I have to step up to the VT now to get it?

Can anyone else weigh in on how important this mode is and if they notice a difference in the PQ with it on? I would do it myself but unfortunetly I no longer have a tv.:-(
Only caveat of this is it's down to quality of 1080P 4:4:4 source material.

For example using the tier rankings of BD software forum at this site:
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1168342/the-new-pq-tier-thread-for-blu-ray-rankings

........ if using a tier 0 rated title a difference will be readily apparent. OTOH, if using a tier 5 rated title results may be quite bad.

ST50 doesn't have 1080P Pure Direct feature, so I will assume ST60 won't as well. VT60 will definitely have it though.
post #6509 of 9713
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Originally Posted by Iain- View Post

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Originally Posted by Iain- View Post



I agree that ST50 and GT50 basically have same PQ. No difference until you realise that GT50 have "1080P Pure Direct" feature.

I see significantly improved PQ of GT50 with this feature enabled for 1080P 4:4:4 source material. When feature is disabled, no difference of PQ.

Having that feature as a readily available option is a requirement, IMO.

BTW, after 3 weeks of ownership of my GT50, I have none of the anomalies you have noted. Very stable and robust bit of kit. wink.gif

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Originally Posted by wattheF View Post

Hmm..so it makes that big a difference huh? I went back and forth between the two the other day and didn't notice much change if any. Could it have to do with the fact that mine is 55" so you see it more on the 65"?
Maybe I just wasn't paying enough attention?

Will the ST60 have 1080p pure direct? Or will I have to step up to the VT now to get it?

Can anyone else weigh in on how important this mode is and if they notice a difference in the PQ with it on? I would do it myself but unfortunetly I no longer have a tv.:-(
Only caveat of this is it's down to quality of 1080P 4:4:4 source material.

For example using the tier rankings of BD software forum at this site:
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1168342/the-new-pq-tier-thread-for-blu-ray-rankings

........ if using a tier 0 rated title a difference will be readily apparent. OTOH, if using a tier 5 rated title results may be quite bad.

ST50 doesn't have 1080P Pure Direct feature, so I will assume ST60 won't as well. VT60 will definitely have it though.

Who knows. It may. They consider the ST60 as a replacement of the GT50.
post #6510 of 9713
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Originally Posted by MacNThorens View Post

With all the raves I have to try the new settings. Thanks to Chad B and HD-Master. Hope to have Chad B do the Pro calibration for me in a couple of months when I get my new speaker set up as I will probably have him do the whole enchilada.

Chad b did my set and you will really enjoy his work. Considering he comes from a strong audio background i can imagine his audio calibration will be just as fantastic.
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