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post #7051 of 9713
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Originally Posted by moonbeam13 View Post

Here's my present set-up:
From GT50 HDMI 1 has optical cable connection to cable box. There is only 1 port on the cable box for HDMI.
From GT50 HDMI 2 has regular HDMI cable to "monitor ARC" on the 2112CI Denon AVR.

From Denon 2112CI AVR has regular HDMI cable from "DVD" to OPPO 103 Bluray on HDMI " out 1".
From Denon 2112CI AVR has optical cable from "Sat/Cab" connection to OPPO 103 on HDMI "out 2".
The other HDMI connections not being used on Denon AVR are "BD", "Game 1", "Game 2", and "V Aux".

I know there is some simple connection I'm not using, or I have things not set up right. I'm not very savvy on all these connections:(
Thanks for all your help.

Your HDMI from your cable box needs to go to the receiver, not through your GT50. Then set up that connection as "Sat/Cab". It should be just as simple as that.

Edit: I may be confused about what you're referring to as optical cable. Let me know if I'm missing something here.
Edited by JSpectre88 - 2/27/13 at 1:37pm
post #7052 of 9713
HD-Master!!! OMG! The Day Wide settings are amazing!!!

I live in a small town and have Charter cable which means that I have a lot of SD stations. This setting actually improves those stations! I surfed around checking out different programming including movies to see how the color and shadow details hold up. These settings seem to have reduced dithering, the only thing I found where it existed was Curly Sue on one of the premium channels in digital. The dithering was more smooth in appearance (maybe even bigger?) and less active. Here's the thing though, it almost seems like it has SOE and yes, motion smoother is off. Is it just me? Am I just not used to that much pop or something?

I couldn't properly check shadow detail because I would have had to pull the blinds and curtains, so I'll check that out tonight. I'm betting that hubby, who barely notices much and is easily pleased where TVs are concerned, notices this change. Damn, I wish Game of Thrones was on tonight. I think we might watch Cabin in the Woods.
post #7053 of 9713
So... are you saying I don't need the connection I now have from the "sat/cable" on the Denon AVR to the OPPO103 HDMI "out 2"?? Just want to make sure.
post #7054 of 9713
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Originally Posted by moonbeam13 View Post

So... are you saying I don't need the connection I now have from the "sat/cable" on the Denon AVR to the OPPO103 HDMI "out 2"?? Just want to make sure.

Isn't the Oppo 103 your Bluray player, why would you need more than one setting for it?

I swear I'm missing something now.. confused.gif

Edit: Maybe someone else can help you, I guess have no idea how you should set up the AVR properly using optical cables. I used HDMI for all 4 of my inputs/devices, and then they all sync to HDMI 1 on the GT50.
Edited by JSpectre88 - 2/27/13 at 1:52pm
post #7055 of 9713
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Originally Posted by JSpectre88 View Post

Isn't the Oppo 103 your Bluray player, why would you need more than one setting for it?

Good question....told you I am not savvy with this stuff:rolleyes:
post #7056 of 9713
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Originally Posted by moonbeam13 View Post

Good question....told you I am not savvy with this stuff:rolleyes:

The Cable/Sat option is for your cable box. I'm just not sure why you have optical cables mixed into the equation. I'm not saying that's wrong, but I have no experience with them. Plugging the box into the receiver via HDMI, and then setting that to any one of the settings on your AVR will give you sound from your speakers while watching cable on your TV.
post #7057 of 9713
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Originally Posted by moonbeam13 View Post

Here's my present set-up:
From GT50 HDMI 1 has optical cable connection to cable box. There is only 1 port on the cable box for HDMI.
From GT50 HDMI 2 has regular HDMI cable to "monitor ARC" on the 2112CI Denon AVR.

From Denon 2112CI AVR has regular HDMI cable from "DVD" to OPPO 103 Bluray on HDMI " out 1".
From Denon 2112CI AVR has optical cable from "Sat/Cab" connection to OPPO 103 on HDMI "out 2".
The other HDMI connections not being used on Denon AVR are "BD", "Game 1", "Game 2", and "V Aux".

I know there is some simple connection I'm not using, or I have things not set up right. I'm not very savvy on all these connections:(
Thanks for all your help.

Are you sure you wrote that right? Maybe I'm reading it wrong? Run everything into your Denon with hdmi, run the optical out of the tv to the Denon's optical input. Connect the the HDMI out to TV into HDMI 2 on the tv.

Edit: Be sure to go into the TV's Setup tab and change the speakers to Theater.
post #7058 of 9713
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Originally Posted by moonbeam13 View Post

Here's my present set-up:
From GT50 HDMI 1 has optical cable connection to cable box. There is only 1 port on the cable box for HDMI.
From GT50 HDMI 2 has regular HDMI cable to "monitor ARC" on the 2112CI Denon AVR.

From Denon 2112CI AVR has regular HDMI cable from "DVD" to OPPO 103 Bluray on HDMI " out 1".
From Denon 2112CI AVR has optical cable from "Sat/Cab" connection to OPPO 103 on HDMI "out 2".
The other HDMI connections not being used on Denon AVR are "BD", "Game 1", "Game 2", and "V Aux".

I know there is some simple connection I'm not using, or I have things not set up right. I'm not very savvy on all these connections:(
Thanks for all your help.

It seems that you do not have your cable connections setup properly. The HDMI output from the 103 should go to the BD (preferred) input of the 2112. If using the HDMI or the optical output for audio from your cable box it should go to the TV/Cable input of the 2112. I'm not sure which cable box you have but the HDMI output would be the preferred connection. You would then need to select and assign each input of the 2112 for the two inputs used. Then with your two sources connected to the 2112 use an HDMI cable from the 2112 HDMI output to a HDMI input of GT50. Your system is fairly basic so it shouldn't be that difficult to setup.

Bill
post #7059 of 9713
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Originally Posted by jbdan View Post

I've read it's a complete myth about cold temps and a pdp. I've also read otherwise. Who knows. Can't hurt to wait. Especially since buying from the big river. Congrats on your GT!
Cold item - warm room - condensation - water - electricity - bada boom!!!
post #7060 of 9713
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Originally Posted by Bill Mac View Post

I belong to the Steve Hoffman forum which is an outstanding forum for those interested in music. Until recently Barry Diament a very well know mastering engineer was a member. But recently he left SH because of one member (with minimal knowledge) that kept badgering him and questioning his capability as a mastering engineer. I can understand asking questions and even questioning those more knowlegable but at times one has to just let it go.

Bill
In my time at AVS I've seen this sort of thing happen several times. It's always a loss to the forum. frown.gif
post #7061 of 9713
Guys, I have learned a lot from this thread. Thanks for the knowledge.

I have a 55GT50 purchased from Amazon. I've had it for about a month. The picture has been superb with no buzzing.
However, yesterday all of a sudden, the picture seemed to have gone "soft" (the sharpness seems to have been replaced with this softness--).

I have hdmi from my cable box, and bluray player connected to a Sony HT-CT150 Sound Bar, with the hdmi to the GT50. I'm using the CNET settings. Any idea what
could be causing this soft picture? Would a darbee help? I have one, but only use it with the bluray player. For some reason, it won't work with the GT50 going through the Sony soundbar.

I really do love this tv. Thanks in advance for your answers and suggestions.
post #7062 of 9713
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Originally Posted by sheshechic View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by moonbeam13 View Post

Here's my present set-up:
From GT50 HDMI 1 has optical cable connection to cable box. There is only 1 port on the cable box for HDMI.
From GT50 HDMI 2 has regular HDMI cable to "monitor ARC" on the 2112CI Denon AVR.

From Denon 2112CI AVR has regular HDMI cable from "DVD" to OPPO 103 Bluray on HDMI " out 1".
From Denon 2112CI AVR has optical cable from "Sat/Cab" connection to OPPO 103 on HDMI "out 2".
The other HDMI connections not being used on Denon AVR are "BD", "Game 1", "Game 2", and "V Aux".

I know there is some simple connection I'm not using, or I have things not set up right. I'm not very savvy on all these connections:(
Thanks for all your help.

Are you sure you wrote that right? Maybe I'm reading it wrong? Run everything into your Denon with hdmi, run the optical out of the tv to the Denon's optical input. Connect the the HDMI out to TV into HDMI 2 on the tv.

Edit: Be sure to go into the TV's Setup tab and change the speakers to Theater.
Moonbeam, would you mind describing your setup again? Forget the names that Denon is giving to it's HDMI ports.

List all sources that are connected to the Denon AVR using HDMI cables. List any source items that are connected directly to your TV using HDMI cables. Keep your directions straight. You refer to going from the Denon AVR to the OPPO. That's confusing. If you are new at this you shouldn't be trying to use the HDMI inputs on the OPPO 103, and if you do try later be sure to get help in the owner's thread for the OPPO 103. Also, you can get help on how the Denon handles it's HDMI inputs from the owner's thread for your AVR.

Here is an example of how I would describe my setup.

Comcast DVR by HDMI to Denon AVR
OPPO 93 by HDMI 1 to Denon AVR

Denon AVR by HDMI to Panasonic TV

With this setup, all volume control comes from the Denon. The OPPO volume setting should be at 100%.

Your OPPO has to HDMI inputs and two HDMI outputs. eek.gif

EDIT: I think Bill Mac, sheshechic, I and several others are having trouble with what you've described.
Edited by htwaits - 2/27/13 at 3:38pm
post #7063 of 9713
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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

Cold item - warm room - condensation - water - electricity - bada boom!!!
+1. A lot of people think only of the temp change. Its the moisture from condensation that kills you. ex. Take a glass out of the refrigerator and set it on the counter and see how quick it gets wet.
post #7064 of 9713
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

+1. A lot of people think only of the temp change. Its the moisture from condensation that kills you. ex. Take a glass out of the refrigerator and set it on the counter and see how quick it gets wet.

Or a cold beer smile.gif
post #7065 of 9713
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Originally Posted by chunon View Post

Or a cold beer smile.gif
Or 12. biggrin.gif
post #7066 of 9713
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

Or 12. biggrin.gif

Now we are talkin smile.gif
post #7067 of 9713
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Originally Posted by chunon View Post

Now we are talkin smile.gif
Maybe for you. Slurring and slobbering for myself. biggrin.gif
post #7068 of 9713
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

Maybe for you. Slurring and slobbering for myself. biggrin.gif

LOL I talk a big story
post #7069 of 9713
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Originally Posted by cjarrett View Post

Guys, I have learned a lot from this thread. Thanks for the knowledge.

I have a 55GT50 purchased from Amazon. I've had it for about a month. The picture has been superb with no buzzing.
However, yesterday all of a sudden, the picture seemed to have gone "soft" (the sharpness seems to have been replaced with this softness--).

I have hdmi from my cable box, and bluray player connected to a Sony HT-CT150 Sound Bar, with the hdmi to the GT50. I'm using the CNET settings. Any idea what
could be causing this soft picture? Would a darbee help? I have one, but only use it with the bluray player. For some reason, it won't work with the GT50 going through the Sony soundbar.

I really do love this tv. Thanks in advance for your answers and suggestions.

Are you saying that absolutely nothing in your set-up changed and then POOF all of sudden the PQ went to crap ? Has the PQ gone soft for all your input devices ? Are you sure you haven't changed picture modes or ....

If the only thing that has changed is the PQ, then I'm leaning toward hardware failure.

There is no reason to add a Dabee to your set if it looked fine without it yesterday.

Come on, you changed something.
post #7070 of 9713
I don't want to re-fuel the GT feud but out of curiosity I just did a simple visible eye-ball test under THX Cinema while watching the Simpsons from OTA broadcast. I have no problem seeing changes up to 80 beyond 82 I'm not seeing much.

I have no more problem accepting the possibility that some sets have different power supplies and limiter characteristics any more than accepting the fact that some sets have audible buzzing and tendencies to show IR. I'm more curious to know if any of these oddities are related to one another ?

I throw this out there for consideration given that a few folks are talking about sets that are oddly dim while one post indicated his was oddly bright.
post #7071 of 9713
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Originally Posted by cjarrett View Post

Guys, I have learned a lot from this thread. Thanks for the knowledge.

I have a 55GT50 purchased from Amazon. I've had it for about a month. The picture has been superb with no buzzing.
However, yesterday all of a sudden, the picture seemed to have gone "soft" (the sharpness seems to have been replaced with this softness--).

I have hdmi from my cable box, and bluray player connected to a Sony HT-CT150 Sound Bar, with the hdmi to the GT50. I'm using the CNET settings. Any idea what
could be causing this soft picture? Would a darbee help? I have one, but only use it with the bluray player. For some reason, it won't work with the GT50 going through the Sony soundbar.

I really do love this tv. Thanks in advance for your answers and suggestions.

In addition to tpollagi said, how about trying new settings? I used cnet for a while but then started thinking that the time had come for a calibration. About that time D-Nice posted his settings for the GT and I was much more pleased. Today I gave HD-Master's wide day settings a try and I am totally happy.
post #7072 of 9713
Well my set that was delivered today is plenty bright. I was surprised out of the box the custom picture mode was set to 100 contrast. Anyways, I'm coming from an LG 55" LH90 local dimming set and the GT50 holds up well in the brightness factor. I watched Avatar and bits and pieces of the Avengers and I thought THX cinema looked great out of the box. I like my picture with a little less pop and more film like so that's probably why.

I'm done for a bit and letting the slides run their course.
post #7073 of 9713
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Originally Posted by BDP33 View Post

Well my set that was delivered today is plenty bright. I was surprised out of the box the custom picture mode was set to 100 contrast. Anyways, I'm coming from an LG 55" LH90 local dimming set and the GT50 holds up well in the brightness factor. I watched Avatar and bits and pieces of the Avengers and I thought THX cinema looked great out of the box. I like my picture with a little less pop and more film like so that's probably why.

I'm done for a bit and letting the slides run their course.
After you get it set up I would love to hear your comparison of the GT and LH90.
post #7074 of 9713
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Originally Posted by tpollagi View Post

Are you saying that absolutely nothing in your set-up changed and then POOF all of sudden the PQ went to crap ? Has the PQ gone soft for all your input devices ? Are you sure you haven't changed picture modes or ....

If the only thing that has changed is the PQ, then I'm leaning toward hardware failure.

There is no reason to add a Dabee to your set if it looked fine without it yesterday.

Come on, you changed something.




Nope. You're wrong. I changed nothing. The picture is not crap, just softer.
post #7075 of 9713
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Originally Posted by cjarrett View Post

Nope. You're wrong. I changed nothing. The picture is not crap, just softer.

How many hours are on it now/
post #7076 of 9713
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Originally Posted by sheshechic View Post

How many hours are on it now/



Not sure how to check that. But, it's only a month old.
post #7077 of 9713
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Originally Posted by cjarrett View Post

Not sure how to check that. But, it's only a month old.

It should look better then, not softer. Try someone else's settings or get a WOW disc and calibrate it yourself. There's also a free one on the forum you can download. Seriously though, try HD's settings, it's one page back.
post #7078 of 9713
Has anyone watched taken two? I watched it tonight and I think I may have noticed a problem with line bleed. On the scene in the beginning of the movie where the father and daughter are in the boat at night I had blue lines across the screen in several shots. Anyone else have this?
post #7079 of 9713
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Originally Posted by stansbrand1 View Post

Has anyone watched taken two? I watched it tonight and I think I may have noticed a problem with line bleed. On the scene in the beginning of the movie where the father and daughter are in the boat at night I had blue lines across the screen in several shots. Anyone else have this?
Maybe that is what the director intended? Lens flare maybe? Take a picture and post it here. We've had this discussion on several occasions. Don't know what really came of it though....
post #7080 of 9713
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Originally Posted by feedthemachine View Post

Sounds about right JS ,,I also use my AVR as the command center so to speak ..
Only have one HDMI going to the TV (the output from the AVR) all the rest go into the AVR and i switch between devices through the AVR..My TV speakers never have sound coming through them,they are not off just turned down to 0 ..

This is my exact set up also. But it does raise a question that I have. When I go into Viera Connect I notice the sound coming through the TV speakers and not through the AVR. I can hear the sound through the TV for Viera Connect and the cable box at the same time unless I turn off the AVR. Is this normal or am I missing something. Thanks
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