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post #7351 of 9713
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Originally Posted by JukeBox360 View Post

It seems to work either way. And it's ps3. Weather I use ARC HDMI from penny to AVR or toslink to AVR I always seem to get the same DD either way.
The Viera Amazon app is specifically the one we need to know about. Does your avr show a DD signal on that app via toslink?
Edited by Bond 007 - 3/5/13 at 5:12pm
post #7352 of 9713
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Originally Posted by KJSmitty View Post

That would be interesting. Even the manual states something to the effect: audio "Not From" organic sources to the TV (organic meaning: NF, Vudu, Amazon, YouTube apps etc) will be stereo only.
I know if I select the GT50 toslink source on my AVR, regardless of the source going "into" the TV its PCM yet stereo only back at the AVR. I'll check again tonight.
The GT will not output anything more than 2.0 from an external source using a toslink cable. But you can get up to 5.1 output on a toslink from the internal apps.
post #7353 of 9713
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Originally Posted by synistr View Post

My question is when or if the Viera NF app will be updated. It has to be...for one because it currently doesnt support 3D, which was sort of a shock to me being that the VuDu app does and two, that flickering issue when changing resolution. VuDu is clearly the best streaming app on Viera which makes me wonder why Panasonic neglects the NF app, particularly when they have the NF button on the remote.

Im reasonably sure Panasonic didn't neglect the NF app; NF neglected the NF app. Panasonic works with app developers to provide functional apps that run on their hardware but ultimately it's up to the app developer to maintain their apps. Yes, there is overlap and cooperation before Panasonic will "certify" and release an app but if the NF app is not all it could be, the burden to beef it up falls on NF.

Have they changed the remote? Mine doesn't have a Netflix button. I'm not sure if I should be upset or glad ?
post #7354 of 9713
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

The GT will not output anything more than 2.0 from an external source using a toslink cable. But you can get up to 5.1 output on a toslink from the internal apps.

I think what you mean is "The GT will not output anything more than 2.0 from an HDMI source using a toslink cable. OTA broadcast, USB, DLNA, and apps are all external sources and can all provide 5.1 on the optical jack. The key difference is these are "internally decoded" sources whereas HDMI sources are externally decoded by the device "playing" them before they are sent to the TV.

Yea, I know, it's splitting hairs but that is why it falls under DCP and why all TV's have the same limitations.
post #7355 of 9713
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Originally Posted by tpollagi View Post

I think what you mean is "The GT will not output anything more than 2.0 from an HDMI source using a toslink cable. OTA broadcast, USB, DLNA, and apps are all external sources and can all provide 5.1 on the optical jack. The key difference is these are "internally decoded" sources whereas HDMI sources are externally decoded by the device "playing" them before they are sent to the TV.

Yea, I know, it's splitting hairs but that is why it falls under DCP and why all TV's have the same limitations.
Exactly. Basically if it has been decoded before it reaches the tv then the tv will downconvert it to 2.0 before sending it out via toslink. Is this also the case with ARC?
I think the Netflix button on the remote came later in the model year. Do you have one from early in 2012?
post #7356 of 9713
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Originally Posted by tpollagi View Post

Im reasonably sure Panasonic didn't neglect the NF app; NF neglected the NF app. Panasonic works with app developers to provide functional apps that run on their hardware but ultimately it's up to the app developer to maintain their apps. Yes, there is overlap and cooperation before Panasonic will "certify" and release an app but if the NF app is not all it could be, the burden to beef it up falls on NF.

Have they changed the remote? Mine doesn't have a Netflix button. I'm not sure if I should be upset or glad ?

My 55GT50 has a NF button. Those were really the only two complaints I had about the app, but they are two really big issues. The 3D is really funny because VuDu and YouTube Viera apps support it.
post #7357 of 9713
Hello friends who have tc-pXXgt50, now i really need ur help plz who have 50gt50, can anyone post here the service menu informtion for me plz, i experement with mine and now i need to return the factory setting, so i need
in WB-ADJ
color temp warm(format hd)
R-cut -?
G-cut -?
B-Cut -?
R-drv -?
G-drv -?
B-drv -?
All-cut -?
All -drv -?
color temp normal(format hd)
R-cut -?
G-cut -?
B-Cut -?
R-drv -?
G-drv -?
B-drv -?
All-cut -?
All -drv -?
color temp cool(format hd)
R-cut -?
G-cut -?
B-Cut -?
R-drv -?
G-drv -?
B-drv -?
All-cut -?
All -drv -?
color temp warm(format sd)
R-cut -?
G-cut -?
B-Cut -?
R-drv -?
G-drv -?
B-drv -?
All-cut -?
All -drv -?
color temp cool(format sd)
R-cut -?
G-cut -?
B-Cut -?
R-drv -?
G-drv -?
B-drv -?
All-cut -?
All -drv -?
color temp normal(format sd)
R-cut -?
G-cut -?
B-Cut -?
R-drv -?
G-drv -?
B-drv -?
All-cut -?
All -drv -?
OPTION
Emegency -?
clock -?
EDID-CLK -?

Contrast -?
Tint -?
Color -?
SUB-BRT -?
also i ask u a help besides SM, who can open the back case of the tv and and measure the voltage on the testpoint is very important to me because outta operation panel

So besides that i fount Hex-Editor in SM of 50-series, have any idea how trough MEMORY EDITOR unlock 10-point gray calibrtion + 6 asix CMS + 96Hz(24p Dirrect in)
post #7358 of 9713
Anybody plz help me i really need urs assistance, thx
post #7359 of 9713
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Originally Posted by Practolog View Post

also i ask u a help besides SM, who can open the back case of the tv and and measure the voltage on the testpoint is very important to me because outta operation panel

So besides that i fount Hex-Editor in SM of 50-series, have any idea how trough MEMORY EDITOR unlock 10-point gray calibrtion + 6 asix CMS + 96Hz(24p Dirrect in)

I'm not sure how many will be willing to open the back case of their GT50 and poke around in there. I'm certainly not going to. I'm staying away from the service menu as well as it seems it might have been good if you did as well. If one does mess with the SM I have read it is best if one copies down the original settings.

Bill
post #7360 of 9713
If u go into SM and just see the factory presets it didnt change any settings there but it can help me to restore my TV, but if u afraid, thats ok, but if u change ur mind i can call u to Skype and tell what to do step by step. thx
post #7361 of 9713
Plz anybody can help me with this?
post #7362 of 9713

Ok I am open to correction but Practolog I think you are out of luck. I am pretty sure everybody's SM settings are unique so copying

somebody elses is not gonna set your TV back to its defaults. I cannot even understand why you would mess with the SM,

it has ben shown that these models can be calibrated almost to perfection without messing with the SM. Were you trying

to repair a defective unit or something?

Oh and good luck finding somebody willing to rip their baby open to go probing test points. This sounds like

a job for a Panasonic service Rep. Words to the wise, 'If you can't fix it yourself then you probably should

not be messing with it'

post #7363 of 9713
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Originally Posted by Practolog View Post

Plz anybody can help me with this?
Call Panasonic.
post #7364 of 9713
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Practolog View Post

Hello friends who have tc-pXXgt50, now i really need ur help plz who have 50gt50, can anyone post here the service menu informtion for me plz, i experement with mine and now i need to return the factory setting....

I still don't understand why in this day and age of information, someone can find information about accessing the Service Menu but not educate themselves enough to write down all the settings before changing them. So many people here have ruined their TVs this way. Other people's SM settings won't work on your TV since every TV has it's own unique values and no two are alike.

There is some sort of trick that if you only changed the SM settings in HD mode and did not change anything in SD mode, the original settings may still be there in SD mode so you can write those down and apply them to the HD mode to restore your TV to it's original state. Look into this.

Calling Panasonic would be completely futile - the monkeys that answer the phones there will be of zero help. If you can't get your TV back to it's original state, contact an ISF Calibrator - i think they can get the TV looking good again but it's going to cost you.
post #7365 of 9713
I've had my 60GT50 for almost 2 weeks now and everything is just fine. Out of the box the picture was great. I've been using my TV they way God intended, to watch stuff. The only precaution I have taken is to watch letterbox programs in zoom to avoid the black bars. Otherwise I've watched BD, sports, High def programing and played Wii. Even my old DVDs look great. I was pleasantly surprised how good the TV speakers sound. (Less face it, TVs really haven't sounded good since 1959.) So far no buzzing, no IR.

I have literally read every comment on this thread and I want to thank everyone for their comments. Some of the overly technical comments went over my head but that's ok. (Sometimes I felt that I had walked into a screening of The Seven Samurai without the benefit of the subtitles.) Because of everyone's help I knew what to expect and what potential problems to look for. Everyone, keep up the good work. Now, on to the receiver forums to research my next toy.
post #7366 of 9713
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Originally Posted by huhhuh View Post

I've had my 60GT50 for almost 2 weeks now and everything is just fine. Out of the box the picture was great. I've been using my TV they way God intended, to watch stuff. The only precaution I have taken is to watch letterbox programs in zoom to avoid the black bars. Otherwise I've watched BD, sports, High def programing and played Wii. Even my old DVDs look great. I was pleasantly surprised how good the TV speakers sound. (Less face it, TVs really haven't sounded good since 1959.) So far no buzzing, no IR.

I have literally read every comment on this thread and I want to thank everyone for their comments. Some of the overly technical comments went over my head but that's ok. (Sometimes I felt that I had walked into a screening of The Seven Samurai without the benefit of the subtitles.) Because of everyone's help I knew what to expect and what potential problems to look for. Everyone, keep up the good work. Now, on to the receiver forums to research my next toy.

I'm in the same boat, only slight buzzing on a white screen with the soud off, no biggie, I did get a little spooked last night when the picture started jumping up & down a tiny amount, but I'm pretty sure it was the cable box due to bad weather, I put in a blu ray and the set was fine, put the cable box back on and it was still happening, but then just stopped..........if it was something to do with the setting on the cable box, then what are the correct settings when using an HDMI cable, in terms of; pic format, 1080, 720, auto fit, ect? This is a Scientific Atlanta high def box, from Cablevision, NY
Edited by jpl20 - 3/6/13 at 8:27am
post #7367 of 9713

I would also like to extend a warm thanks to all that contributed to this thread. I hear virtually no buzzing

from my set and have been watching varied content and playing my Wii from day one. I hooked my laptop

via HDMI, set the tv to be the primary display, enabled 3d in my NVIDIA settings after installing 3DTVPlay

and tried a few of my pc games in 3D which actually was more enjoyable than I first assumed it would be even

with the cheaper Samsung SSG-4100GB glasses

I have used zoom where possible and have had no negative issues to speak of.

I am relieved to say the least because my tv was purchased on black friday and sat at a freight forwarder until Feb.

this year when it was finally loaded on a container ship and brought down to me. Gave new meaning to the words 'Feels like forever'

The one thing I found curious though is that upon entering the Viera app page for the first time

the software detected that I was outside the U.S. and deleted my Amazon app :)

I found a work around for this so I thought I would mention it just in case it happend to

somebody else and they wondered why they were missing the app.

post #7368 of 9713
Friends you are completely wrong factory settings within SM identical within each model ST50 say the same 42-65 50-65 GT50 same holds true for Vt50, but the settings are different from SD and HD when we bring down SD and HD flies trust myself Engineer I was Tx-P50ST50 but I hate stupid dithering in all modes so I upgrade him to GT50 for American Cinema and custom modes where possible use 24K gray levels and eliminate the dithering, but with double the MLL increase ((
I also have a service manual, and everything else so I ask who can really help me i need parameters SM and one metering voltage Vda control point, all I can tell you here or skaype also know how to go to the memory editor if you are interested unlock 10 point range and 6-axis color CMS
post #7369 of 9713

Fine for the hell of it I will give you my settings when I get home in a few minutes

post #7370 of 9713

Oops me thinks me helped a hardware hacker lol!


Edited by rypaul - 3/6/13 at 5:02pm
post #7371 of 9713
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Originally Posted by Practolog View Post

Friends you are completely wrong factory settings within SM identical within each model ST50 say the same 42-65 50-65 GT50 same holds true for Vt50, but the settings are different from SD and HD when we bring down SD and HD flies trust myself Engineer I was Tx-P50ST50 but I hate stupid dithering in all modes so I upgrade him to GT50 for American Cinema and custom modes where possible use 24K gray levels and eliminate the dithering, but with double the MLL increase ((
I also have a service manual, and everything else so I ask who can really help me i need parameters SM and one metering voltage Vda control point, all I can tell you here or skaype also know how to go to the memory editor if you are interested unlock 10 point range and 6-axis color CMS

That is not correct they vary from set to set, I have seen countless examples of variance posted here year after year, sd and hd are identical in every single instance I have seen and on every single panny I have owned
Edited by chunon - 3/6/13 at 10:46am
post #7372 of 9713

Yes SD and HD do seem to share the same values as evidenced by my posted SM values

post #7373 of 9713
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Originally Posted by rypaul View Post

Yes SD and HD do seem to share the same values as evidenced by my posted SM values

That's why most people can recover their defaults by referencing the SD settings, most people don't experiment with those.
post #7374 of 9713
Good guy rypaul. smile.gif

I thought about helping, but decided I'm just too lazy to go through all those settings. biggrin.gif
post #7375 of 9713
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Originally Posted by chunon View Post

That is not correct they vary from set to set, I have seen countless examples of variance posted here year after year, sd and hd are identical in every single instance I have seen and on every single panny I have owned

If everyone's SM values are different, then aren't those people in the UT thread wasting their time by copying that guy's calibrated W/B settings? eek.gif

If they are different, it can't be by that much then I would guess.
post #7376 of 9713
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Originally Posted by JSpectre88 View Post

If everyone's SM values are different, then aren't those people in the UT thread wasting their time by copying that guy's calibrated W/B settings? eek.gif

If they are different, it can't be by that much then I would guess.

Its not a total waste sometimes it makes them better sometimes it doesn't. This has been going on around here since at least 2010, many of us that had GT25's at the time compared our default settings and there was a lot of variance. Copying settings is a crap shoot at best imo
post #7377 of 9713

I guess most people feel that even if the differences were minor a difference is still a difference so without a professional calibration

after using somebody elses settings the image would still be 'wrong'. Of course hiring a professional after plugging

in somebody elses numbers kinda defeats the initial goal which is to obtain a 'free' calibration.

post #7378 of 9713
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Originally Posted by rypaul View Post

I guess most people feel that even if the differences were minor a difference is still a difference so without a professional calibration
after using somebody elses settings the image would still be 'wrong'

Couple schools of thought, if it improves the picture then I say go for it you aren't going to hurt your set. But once you have had a pro cal or done a diy cal you need to know you are getting the best out of your set, It bugs me that I might have errors that are correctable so ultimately I opted for a pro cal after going the diy route. But that is just me others are happy with the basic settings, some do a cal disk, some copy settings. Its all individual preference really.
post #7379 of 9713

Yeah I agree with the concept that everyone needs to find their own comfort zone. Regardless

of what methods we use to achieve settings we are happy with the most important thing is that

we find a setup that looks good to us and spend 99% of the tv's life watching and enjoying it.

post #7380 of 9713
I wonder if it your settings fixed his set. I hope it doesn't tongue.gif
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