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post #7411 of 9713
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Originally Posted by Bill Mac View Post

Anyone using a Harmony remote with their GT50 and having issues with power on and power off? I'm having intermittent issues with my 60GT50 not powering up or powering down with my 688. I never had any issues like this with my older Panasonic plasma. I'm wondering if I need to change the setting for the 60GT50 so power on and power off are used instead power toggle.

Bill

We have a TIVO and had the same problem for two days with our TIVO remote. I unplugged the box so it could reboot and the problem seems to be solved.
post #7412 of 9713
I don't have issues using my Harmony One when it comes to powering on/off, but I DO seem to be having issues when accessing items in the TV's menus (for example to change a setting). One press on the directional pad of my H-1 results in the setting jumping 2-3 times as opposed to just one. I've resorted to pushing the directional button then immediately covering the top of the remote so only one command is sent to the TV. Anybody else have this problem?
post #7413 of 9713

See my post above, if I figure it out I will post my solution


Edited by rypaul - 3/7/13 at 6:34am
post #7414 of 9713
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Originally Posted by HuskerPower25 View Post

I'm going to let it settle as well and see what happens. I also moved it around so it is no longer in front of the doors, I moved a bunch of stuff around and made some sacrifices with furniture placement and got it along a wall in that same room. Here are the pictures, ignore the messy desk, visible cords and the map that I haven't hung yet.

For reference, the windows in my place are all south facing (on the right). The closet the TV was previously in front of is on the left of that room (parallel to the window). The outline in the foreground is the frame for the accordion door which spans the entire width from windows to that edge, about 14 feet. That room extends another 5 feet to the left on the other side of that wall to the closet doors. The reason I was reluctant to do this in the first place was because of the limited space between the corner of the desk and corner of the couch, as seen here.

It is an 18 to 20 inch space between the edge of the couch and desk. Since it is just me and I generally don't have many people in and out of here, I figured the small space isn't a huge deal. I can walk through it just fine. If I had more people in and out of here, I'd rethink things.

In terms of spacing, the TV is currently about 10" from the wall, the back cushion of the couch is 8' from the TV and the TV stand itself is centered 17" between the edge of the desk and the shelf on the left. This isn't ideal, but it is as good as it is going to get in this place. I'll probably move the chair on the left back about half a foot. There is a coffee table that is meant to go in there, but it is a 52"x28" oval and I think it would get very tight so I'll probably roll with a side table to the left of the couch and two leather foot stools.

I could theoretically mount the TV on the wall now, but it is a shared wall with the condo next to mine and these walls do not handle vibration well (for example, I can hear my neighbors cell phone pulsing on a table against the wall while someone is trying to call him as I type this). Plus this isn't a permanent residence so I'd rather limit holes in the wall that I'd have to fix and repaint before I sell it, once I get somewhere more permanent, this thing is going on the wall for sure.

As for the buzzing, it is still audible at my 8 foot viewing distance on fully bright screens (the XBOX 360 load screen, some commercials, hockey, brightly lit basketball courts) but not really when the sound is on at a level I listen to. Now I was curious about the acoustics and decided I'd try an experiment and put two pillows behind the TV, just resting lightly against the back of the set so air can still flow. When I did that, any buzzing pretty much ceased, even on the brightest of screens. I could still hear a little with the TV muted, but that's to be expected. Even on a full white slide, the buzzing is not at an obnoxiously loud level.

Now I have two theories here.

1) The back panel itself is vibrating at a frequency loud enough for me to hear and reverberating off the hard wall. I have excellent hearing so that would make sense. It would also explain why the buzzing almost completely stops with something leaning against it.

OR

2) The buzzing is within the panel itself and is just reverberating off the walls and short ceiling and back to the viewing area. The ceiling in this room is just under 8'. The pillows behind the TV would then be deadening that sound before it can reverberate, resulting in a mostly quiet TV.

I'd be interested in hearing some other experiences with buzzing, specifically relating to distance from the wall, type of surface behind the TV and room dimensions. I don't really want to settle for the pillow behind the TV trick but I'm definitely not going to keep playing Amazon roulette either if the amount of buzz I'm getting is normal and I just happen to be more sensitive to it or the room is amplifying things.

Your room is beautiful, and from a design perspective, the clearance between the couch and your desk is fine- minimum is 18". If the piece of furniture were taller than your desk, you'd most likely want more distance. BTW, love your map. Yesterday I was looking at a collection of railroad maps that I have and was trying to decide whether I should sell them or frame them. They're circa 1905 and not all are in the best condition.

For the buzz, try putting a little pressure with your hand on the back panel, where you think the buzz might be coming from, to see if that has any effect. If it does, maybe tightening the screws will help. The best way might be to loosen the screws that hold the panel in place while the tv is off (cold), turn the tv on and let it warm up, and then tighten the screws back down while its still warm.
post #7415 of 9713
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by jpl20 View Post

Bump....cable settings?

My GT50 looks crisper and more detailed on all channels when my Tivo and TWC DVR are set to output at 1080i Fixed. Setting it to 720p Fixed softens the image a little and shows less detail.

I've actually compared the 720p broadcast channels (ABC & FOX) back to back between my Tivo's OTA Tuner (at 1080i Fixed) and the GT50's internal OTA Tuner (displaying native 720p) several times and the 1080i signal is definitely crisper and more detailed. Very noticeable difference when i switch back and forth.
post #7416 of 9713
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Originally Posted by Latinoheat View Post

I have a Harmony One with my GT50 and have no issues, on my TV device screen has power on/off aswell as power toggle. I would go through the settings on your remote again.
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

I use power toggle and have had no problems. Maybe if you delete the GT and add it again. If it is an intermittent issue that will be hard to diagnose. You could try changing the order that they are powered on and off too. GT first then 688 or vice versa.

Thanks for both of your responses smile.gif. I checked all the settings and changed the sequence of the way the 60GT50 was powering on but it didn't help. So I took Bond 007's suggestion and deleted the 60GT50 and added it again. I believe this did the trick as the 60GT50 is now powering on and off without issue. I was pulling my hair out there for awhile eek.gif. So thanks to Bond 007 for the great advice smile.gif!

Bill
post #7417 of 9713
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Originally Posted by jpl20 View Post

No, it stopped on it's own,but it got me thinking, I just want to make sure that it's hooked up correctly, I read somewhere that format should be set to fixed so I switched it from dvi/hdmi to fixed, & pic format to 1080, also pic size to normal, would that be correct and any other setting I should look at?
Not that Im aware of.
post #7418 of 9713
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Originally Posted by jch1 View Post

I don't have issues using my Harmony One when it comes to powering on/off, but I DO seem to be having issues when accessing items in the TV's menus (for example to change a setting). One press on the directional pad of my H-1 results in the setting jumping 2-3 times as opposed to just one. I've resorted to pushing the directional button then immediately covering the top of the remote so only one command is sent to the TV. Anybody else have this problem?
Yes. I even tried to change the timing and delay for individual commands with no joy. Its as if when you hit the button it sends the signal for too long so it makes the change twice or something. I have just learned to live with it.
post #7419 of 9713
Regarding the red power switch and the suggestion to purchase those led transparent covers. I found using a black dry erase or whiteboard marker works fine. Just a little dab of the marker on the led power light and its "dimmed". If you don't want the dimmed look, just take your finger and wipe off the dry erase marker.
post #7420 of 9713
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Originally Posted by RandyWalters View Post

My GT50 looks crisper and more detailed on all channels when my Tivo and TWC DVR are set to output at 1080i Fixed. Setting it to 720p Fixed softens the image a little and shows less detail.

I've actually compared the 720p broadcast channels (ABC & FOX) back to back between my Tivo's OTA Tuner (at 1080i Fixed) and the GT50's internal OTA Tuner (displaying native 720p) several times and the 1080i signal is definitely crisper and more detailed. Very noticeable difference when i switch back and forth.

If this was set incorrectly, might that cause the picture to jump slightly?
post #7421 of 9713
Hello. Just purchased my P60GT50 about 2 weeks ago after exhaustive research. Went with the Panny as the reviews about it were pretty great. Love this set. Incredible picture and it's super thin and light. Was able to mount it on the on the wall myself. Upgraded from a 7 year 50" Samsung plasma which was not as much fun to mount or remove by myself from a wall.. For me, nothing beats a PDP picture.

Have some questions:

- I noticed there are some gamers here. What settings are you guys using for Xbox/PS3? From what I've read, they both display different pictures, but is the Game setting a good setting to use, or should I use one of the other setting and change values there? I mostly use the PS3 for Blu Rays and Xbox for gaming.
- IR/Burn In - played alot of Xbox on it and have had no noticeable IR and no BI. I know every panel is different and results may vary, but I think the IR/BI issue is blown out or porportion
- I used the D-Nice Slides for the recommended hours, along with varied content, and confg'd the TV to his recommended settings. Once thing I noticed is that his settings and many others say to set color to Warm 2, but I find it makes whites a little red. I don't care for it, but is that what it's supposed to look like? I'm guessing it might be personal preference, but have I been looking at a TV picture wrong all these years?
- No buzzing!
- The Netflix app isn't the best. Noticed alot of jittery movement in films (watched Paranormal Activity and Captain Amerca for example), but animated films look incredible (some of the WB DC Animated Unverse movies). Has anyone else noticed this?

Thanks in advance for your responses.
post #7422 of 9713

Ok for Harmony issues. Go into the Harmony software, Click on devices, press the troubleshoot button in the Tv section

highlight the "Panasonic responds to some commands either too many times or only occasionally." section,

click next, highlight "1" click Save and then update your remote.

post #7423 of 9713
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Originally Posted by Clavius View Post

Thank you for the great explanation. Do you have any advice when it comes to brightness and 3D? After switching to 48hz, I noticed a huge improvement in 3D and I'm curious if there is a similar "quick fix" for making the picture brighter.

If you want brighter settings, that I can help you with. I did a lot of playing around with the 3D settings. HD-Master's settings looked good to me, but the picture was just too dark to enjoy. I got my settings to look about as good as his Custom night settings, but maybe a tad darker due to the glasses. They're not going to look right on paper, but I can assure you it's a lot different when it comes to 3D over 2D.

--Custom 3D Mode--

Contrast - 90
Brightness - 40
Color - 50
Tint - 0
Sharpness - 0
Color Temp. - Normal

--Pro Settings--

Color Space - Wide

W/B high R - +4
W/B high G - +8
W/B high B - 0
W/B low R - +15
W/B low G - 0
W/B low B - +5

Black Ext. - 0
Gamma - 1.8
Panel Brightness - High
Contour - Off
AGC - 15


Feel free to adjust color settings, but I would leave the rest alone.

P.S - I'm not new, can't log in to my account for some odd reason. -_-
post #7424 of 9713
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Originally Posted by rypaul View Post

Ok for Harmony issues. Go into the Harmony software, Click on devices, press the troubleshoot button in the Tv section
highlight the "Panasonic responds to some commands either too many times or only occasionally." section,
click next, highlight "1" click Save and then update your remote.
Thanks. And that worked for you?
post #7425 of 9713
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post


Thanks. And that worked for you?

Yep worked perfectly no more double commands in the sub menus

post #7426 of 9713
I just got my Harmony 650 yesterday and set it up. It was pretty easy. But I'm having a problem when I go to Netflix and then try to go back to watch TV. I can't get back to watch TV without pushing alot of buttons and trial and error, and finally pushing the right one. Seems it should be simpler than that.....any suggestions?
post #7427 of 9713

What happens when you send the Panasonic exit command while in Netflix?

post #7428 of 9713
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Originally Posted by akumaxv View Post

Hello. Just purchased my P60GT50 about 2 weeks ago after exhaustive research. Went with the Panny as the reviews about it were pretty great. Love this set. Incredible picture and it's super thin and light. Was able to mount it on the on the wall myself. Upgraded from a 7 year 50" Samsung plasma which was not as much fun to mount or remove by myself from a wall.. For me, nothing beats a PDP picture.

Have some questions:

- I noticed there are some gamers here. What settings are you guys using for Xbox/PS3? From what I've read, they both display different pictures, but is the Game setting a good setting to use, or should I use one of the other setting and change values there? I mostly use the PS3 for Blu Rays and Xbox for gaming.
- IR/Burn In - played alot of Xbox on it and have had no noticeable IR and no BI. I know every panel is different and results may vary, but I think the IR/BI issue is blown out or porportion
- I used the D-Nice Slides for the recommended hours, along with varied content, and confg'd the TV to his recommended settings. Once thing I noticed is that his settings and many others say to set color to Warm 2, but I find it makes whites a little red. I don't care for it, but is that what it's supposed to look like? I'm guessing it might be personal preference, but have I been looking at a TV picture wrong all these years?
- No buzzing!
- The Netflix app isn't the best. Noticed alot of jittery movement in films (watched Paranormal Activity and Captain Amerca for example), but animated films look incredible (some of the WB DC Animated Unverse movies). Has anyone else noticed this?

Thanks in advance for your responses.

- You probably want to use game mode for the Xbox, the other modes don't quite feel as responsive. I set the Xbox to Auto, and use Standard. I set the TV for 80 contrast, 45 brightness, 50 color, and 65 sharpness. The color and sharpness are open for interpretation. As for the PS3, you should use custom mode settings.

- It does depend on the panel, it's not blown out of proportion for those affected by it, but they may be the minority, who knows.

- Warm 2 is what it's supposed to look like, and the white's look normal. You probably have been looking at a cooler picture all these years. The brain adjusts quickly, leave it on warm 2 for a while and it will become perfectly normal looking.

- Great! smile.gif

- Yeah, the Viera apps aren't the greatest, but I don't know if your issue is related to Netflix. I would say the judder is actually normal. (IMO) This TV doesn't cover it up with motion blur or artificial effects, motion is extremely natural (for 24 fps film). That's my take on it at least.

Best of luck and enjoy the new set! cool.gif
post #7429 of 9713
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Originally Posted by rypaul View Post

Ok for Harmony issues. Go into the Harmony software, Click on devices, press the troubleshoot button in the Tv section
highlight the "Panasonic responds to some commands either too many times or only occasionally." section,
click next, highlight "1" click Save and then update your remote.
Good deal! Thank you, sir. While I was in there I made some other changes that I have been meaning to make for a while and everything seems to be working perfectly. smile.gif
post #7430 of 9713
if you believe that HD = SD I used the settings on SD because HD I did not hit)) I need a setting Clk Mode =? from the service menu in the menu Option, but most importantly from the owners of 55 or 50 diagonals me boring 2 measurements and voltage Vda Tp_VSUS I get calibrator i1 display 2 is not Konica Minolta 1000 of course but I think is good)), and then I met a man who at the AVS fumbles in Memory Editor, I think many would like to pave the way for their Vt GT especially it is more than real given that a-board identical in both Europe and the CIS 10-point scale and color setting is not locked))
As for measuring voltage can anyone help if so please unsubscribe my part right now, talk to the service engineer Panas but not with America promised to help with Memory Editor but maybe there is also craftsmen))
post #7431 of 9713
Sorry for my english im from Ru))
post #7432 of 9713
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Originally Posted by Practolog View Post

if you believe that HD = SD I used the settings on SD because HD I did not hit)) I need a setting Clk Mode =? from the service menu in the menu Option, but most importantly from the owners of 55 or 50 diagonals me boring 2 measurements and voltage Vda Tp_VSUS I get calibrator i1 display 2 is not Konica Minolta 1000 of course but I think is good)), and then I met a man who at the AVS fumbles in Memory Editor, I think many would like to pave the way for their Vt GT especially it is more than real given that a-board identical in both Europe and the CIS 10-point scale and color setting is not locked))
As for measuring voltage can anyone help if so please unsubscribe my part right now, talk to the service engineer Panas but not with America promised to help with Memory Editor but maybe there is also craftsmen))

Yeah. No.

I have a headache now. confused.gif
post #7433 of 9713
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Originally Posted by JSpectre88 View Post

Yeah. No.

I have a headache now. confused.gif
For what reason?))
post #7434 of 9713
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Originally Posted by rypaul View Post

Posted by Bill
Anyone using a Harmony remote with their GT50 and having issues with power on and power off? I'm having intermittent issues with my 60GT50 not powering up or powering down with my 688. I never had any issues like this with my older Panasonic plasma. I'm wondering if I need to change the setting for the 60GT50 so power on and power off are used instead power toggle.

 
Mine powers off and on fine but I have issues with the TV sub menus. When I press up down left or right, no matter how lightly I press the remote sends two commands. Very irritating when trying to change values by one increment.
I have even tried getting the commands from my original remote and no joy. I think there is some issue
with the way the harmony is reproducing the Panasonic IR commands. I own a Harmony One
I haven't had any issues at all with my Harmony (650 iirc).

Have you gone into the settings (myharmony.com) to change the milliseconds value for your TV?

EDIT: nvm sorry saw that you have resolved it
post #7435 of 9713
Why would you ever use 65 sharpness. That is way to much. Let alone way to much for a console.
post #7436 of 9713
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Originally Posted by JukeBox360 View Post

Why would you ever use 65 sharpness. That is way to much. Let alone way to much for a console.

It's really, really not. The TV has very mild sharpness settings. Even at 100 sharpness there's no noticeable "over-sharpening" or white edges.
post #7437 of 9713
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Originally Posted by WOLVERNOLE View Post

... I have NEVER been able to see rainbows on any TV in the past (including the older DLP units that apparently were "rainbow machines.")
Plasma has phosphor trails that some people can see, but the vast majority don't. DLP rainbows are a similar effect but not necessarily seen by the same small group of individuals.
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Anyway, I should state that I have worsening visual problems over the years which might contribute...but I can really see rainbow effect on my unit, (at the bottom of the screen) when I avert my eyes somewhat.
If you haven't had a medical eye exam in the past year it might be a good idea to get one. Ask the doctor if your visual problems could be contributing to what you're seeing on your plasma.
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My question is this: Is this TV built in a manner that would cause visual effect, i.e. "rainbows"? Again, I thought DLP, due to the "color wheel" technology caused the problem.
There isn't any known reason why your plasma would be any more prone to causing what you're seeing than any other plasma. As for DLP, some humans came equipped to see the effects of the color wheel, and some humans come equipped to see phosphor trails. They are not the same group of people, but I imagine that some individuals can see both. Given what you said about never having this problem before with plasma, and your eye condition, I'd want a doctor to give an opinion.

Another thought is that your viewing setup in combination with your TV's calibration is taking you over a threshold. Have you seen GT50 displays in other settings? Is your current plasma much bigger than the ones you've had in the past? Do the lighting conditions in your viewing area make any difference? Is your set putting out a very bright image? How far from your set are you sitting?
post #7438 of 9713
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Originally Posted by JxSpectre View Post

If you want brighter settings, that I can help you with. I did a lot of playing around with the 3D settings. HD-Master's settings looked good to me, but the picture was just too dark to enjoy. I got my settings to look about as good as his Custom night settings, but maybe a tad darker due to the glasses. They're not going to look right on paper, but I can assure you it's a lot different when it comes to 3D over 2D.

--Custom 3D Mode--

Contrast - 90
Brightness - 40
Color - 50
Tint - 0
Sharpness - 0
Color Temp. - Normal

--Pro Settings--

Color Space - Wide

W/B high R - +4
W/B high G - +8
W/B high B - 0
W/B low R - +15
W/B low G - 0
W/B low B - +5

Black Ext. - 0
Gamma - 1.8
Panel Brightness - High
Contour - Off
AGC - 15


Feel free to adjust color settings, but I would leave the rest alone.

P.S - I'm not new, can't log in to my account for some odd reason. -_-

Thanks again! Super helpful. And I can tell you know what you're talking about. Two last questions, is keeping the panel brightness on high similar to Vivd mode in that it will decrease the life of the TV or are those two things completely unrelated? Also, besides the colors looking way off, why is Vivid bad for the TV?
post #7439 of 9713
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Originally Posted by Clavius View Post

Thanks again! Super helpful. And I can tell you know what you're talking about. Two last questions, is keeping the panel brightness on high similar to Vivd mode in that it will decrease the life of the TV or are those two things completely unrelated? Also, besides the colors looking way off, why is Vivid bad for the TV?
Use 24K of grey grad with panel brightness=low+his settings its only way to proof pana tv also set up the hdmi set for ur input to photo, is the best quality fo that panel
post #7440 of 9713
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Originally Posted by JSpectre88 View Post

- You probably want to use game mode for the Xbox, the other modes don't quite feel as responsive. I set the Xbox to Auto, and use Standard. I set the TV for 80 contrast, 45 brightness, 50 color, and 65 sharpness. The color and sharpness are open for interpretation. As for the PS3, you should use custom mode settings.

- It does depend on the panel, it's not blown out of proportion for those affected by it, but they may be the minority, who knows.

- Warm 2 is what it's supposed to look like, and the white's look normal. You probably have been looking at a cooler picture all these years. The brain adjusts quickly, leave it on warm 2 for a while and it will become perfectly normal looking.

- Great! smile.gif

- Yeah, the Viera apps aren't the greatest, but I don't know if your issue is related to Netflix. I would say the judder is actually normal. (IMO) This TV doesn't cover it up with motion blur or artificial effects, motion is extremely natural (for 24 fps film). That's my take on it at least.

Best of luck and enjoy the new set! cool.gif

Cool, thank you or the response.

- I will try those settings for the Xbox
- I know it sucks for folks who have gotten IR/BI, i wasn't trying to be insensitive. What I meant was that it may not be as widespread as some folks have been saying. Either way, I feel lucky I have not had to deal with it.
- I will try the Warm 2 settings and see. My eyes have been looking at the wrong picture all these years
- I've watched Netflix on a PC and from my iPad/iPhone connected to the TV just to compare, and noticed this. I don't believe it's signal strength. So it may just be the TV. I'll have to investigate more.

One other question:

- Would it be best to connect all HDMI sources to the GT50 and then to my receiver with optical cable for audio or would that limit my audio options? Should I connect all HDMI sources to the receiver and then out to the TV instead?
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