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post #7441 of 9047
3/7/13 at 1:38pm
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Originally Posted by JSpectre88 View Post

- You probably want to use game mode for the Xbox, the other modes don't quite feel as responsive. I set the Xbox to Auto, and use Standard. I set the TV for 80 contrast, 45 brightness, 50 color, and 65 sharpness. The color and sharpness are open for interpretation. As for the PS3, you should use custom mode settings.

- It does depend on the panel, it's not blown out of proportion for those affected by it, but they may be the minority, who knows.

- Warm 2 is what it's supposed to look like, and the white's look normal. You probably have been looking at a cooler picture all these years. The brain adjusts quickly, leave it on warm 2 for a while and it will become perfectly normal looking.

- Great! smile.gif

- Yeah, the Viera apps aren't the greatest, but I don't know if your issue is related to Netflix. I would say the judder is actually normal. (IMO) This TV doesn't cover it up with motion blur or artificial effects, motion is extremely natural (for 24 fps film). That's my take on it at least.

Best of luck and enjoy the new set! cool.gif

Cool, thank you or the response.

- I will try those settings for the Xbox
- I know it sucks for folks who have gotten IR/BI, i wasn't trying to be insensitive. What I meant was that it may not be as widespread as some folks have been saying. Either way, I feel lucky I have not had to deal with it.
- I will try the Warm 2 settings and see. My eyes have been looking at the wrong picture all these years
- I've watched Netflix on a PC and from my iPad/iPhone connected to the TV just to compare, and noticed this. I don't believe it's signal strength. So it may just be the TV. I'll have to investigate more.

One other question:

- Would it be best to connect all HDMI sources to the GT50 and then to my receiver with optical cable for audio or would that limit my audio options? Should I connect all HDMI sources to the receiver and then out to the TV instead?
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post #7442 of 9047
3/7/13 at 1:44pm
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Originally Posted by Clavius View Post

Thanks again! Super helpful. And I can tell you know what you're talking about. Two last questions, is keeping the panel brightness on high similar to Vivd mode in that it will decrease the life of the TV or are those two things completely unrelated? Also, besides the colors looking way off, why is Vivid bad for the TV?

Panel brightness on high is perfectly fine. Using vivid is fine, and won't decrease the life of the TV enough for it to matter at all. Vivid isn't really bad for your TV at all, but it's brighter and you may get IR easier using it. On warm 2 vivid isn't "way off", it's just slightly brighter and a little more vibrant, like an LCD. Also, I would have used Vivid, but with all the changes I'm fairly positive that Custom is even brighter for 3D.

This is my other acct. smile.gif
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post #7443 of 9047
3/7/13 at 1:49pm
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Originally Posted by akumaxv View Post

Cool, thank you or the response.

- I will try those settings for the Xbox
- I know it sucks for folks who have gotten IR/BI, i wasn't trying to be insensitive. What I meant was that it may not be as widespread as some folks have been saying. Either way, I feel lucky I have not had to deal with it.
- I will try the Warm 2 settings and see. My eyes have been looking at the wrong picture all these years
- I've watched Netflix on a PC and from my iPad/iPhone connected to the TV just to compare, and noticed this. I don't believe it's signal strength. So it may just be the TV. I'll have to investigate more.

One other question:

- Would it be best to connect all HDMI sources to the GT50 and then to my receiver with optical cable for audio or would that limit my audio options? Should I connect all HDMI sources to the receiver and then out to the TV instead?

I would connect everything to the AVR, that's what I did at least.

I only have one HDMI cord going from the TV to the AVR.
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post #7444 of 9047
3/7/13 at 1:51pm
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Originally Posted by JSpectre88 View Post

Panel brightness on high is perfectly fine. Using vivid is fine, and won't decrease the life of the TV enough for it to matter at all. Vivid isn't really bad for your TV at all, but it's brighter and you may get IR easier using it. On warm 2 vivid isn't "way off", it's just slightly brighter and a little more vibrant, like an LCD. Also, I would have used Vivid, but with all the changes I'm fairly positive that Custom is even brighter for 3D.

This is my other acct. smile.gif
what??? Vivid are u joking????? use Gt for vivid is realy **** try Custom + PB=LOw+HDMI=Photo u can see the perfect picture without any dither and all 24K GSOG
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post #7445 of 9047
3/7/13 at 1:52pm
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Originally Posted by Practolog View Post

what??? Vivid are u joking????? use Gt for vivid is realy **** try Custom + PB=LOw+HDMI=Photo u can see the perfect picture without any dither and all 24K GSOG

1.) We are mainly talking about 3D.

2.) Stop sitting 3 feet from the TV.

3.) I believe Cinema is the only 24k mode.
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post #7446 of 9047
3/7/13 at 1:58pm
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Originally Posted by JSpectre88 View Post

1.) We are mainly talking about 3D.

2.) Stop sitting 3 feet from the TV.

3.) I believe Cinema is the only 24k mode.
u r didnt right i experemet with tx-pr50vt50 and now with usa 50gt50 try pb=low and u will see custom use 24k steps u can see it for the lime of pixel protect cool.gif
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post #7447 of 9047
3/7/13 at 1:59pm
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Originally Posted by Practolog View Post

u r didnt right i experemet with tx-pr50vt50 and now with usa 50gt50 try pb=low and u will see custom use 24k steps u can see it for the lime of pixel protect cool.gif
also try Black Clipping Apl and u will see that
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post #7448 of 9047
3/7/13 at 2:00pm
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Originally Posted by JSpectre88 View Post


1.) We are mainly talking about 3D.

2.) Stop sitting 3 feet from the TV.

Your sense of humour is greatly appreciated :)

I was wondering who was gonna respond to his comment.

Based on some of his comments it sounds like he watches tv armed with a colorimeter strapped

to his head. I find my tv easier to enjoy by not looking for problems or imperfections.

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post #7449 of 9047
3/7/13 at 2:03pm
Can anyone measure the some voltage of the tv?
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post #7450 of 9047
3/7/13 at 2:03pm
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Originally Posted by Practolog View Post

u r didnt right i experemet with tx-pr50vt50 and now with usa 50gt50 try pb=low and u will see custom use 24k steps u can see it for the lime of pixel protect cool.gif

There is no 24k in custom, period. Panel brightness on low is awful. rolleyes.gif
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post #7451 of 9047
3/7/13 at 2:04pm
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Originally Posted by rypaul View Post

Your sense of humour is greatly appreciated smile.gif
I was wondering who was gonna respond to his comment.
Based on some of his comments it sounds like he watches tv armed with a colorimeter strapped
to his head. I find my tv easier to enjoy by not looking for problems or imperfections.

LOL!

As is yours my friend.. biggrin.gif
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post #7452 of 9047
3/7/13 at 2:07pm
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Originally Posted by JSpectre88 View Post

There is no 24k in custom, period. Panel brightness on low is awful. rolleyes.gif
Try to look on pixel protect line mll and other also black clip apl if u dont know what are u says just dont nothing i test all of the 50 series i know what i'm talking about
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post #7453 of 9047
3/7/13 at 2:12pm
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Originally Posted by Practolog View Post

Try to look on pixel protect line mll and other also black clip apl if u dont know what are u says just dont nothing i test all of the 50 series i know what i'm talking about

Well, 24K was only supposed to be in the THX Modes, but I remember someone knowledgeable saying it's actually ONLY in Cinema mode. I will let someone else comment on that further. If you know what you're talking about, then why are you so concerned with dithering, when it's not even possible to see from more than 2-3 feet from the TV?
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post #7454 of 9047
3/7/13 at 2:18pm
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Originally Posted by Practolog View Post

Can anyone measure the some voltage of the tv?

Ok let me try and have you look at this a different way. Imagine asking somebody to have surgery performed on their newborn baby

because you wanna see if yours normal.

 

 

I apologise if this hits a bad nerve with anyone, I am just kidding around with him.

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post #7455 of 9047
3/7/13 at 2:20pm
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Originally Posted by JSpectre88 View Post


Well, 24K was only supposed to be in the THX Modes, but I remember someone knowledgeable saying it's actually ONLY in Cinema mode. I will let someone else comment on that further. If you know what you're talking about, then why are you so concerned with dithering, when it's not even possible to see from more than 2-3 feet from the TV?

Because he is the type that wants to break down a rose to its individual chemical components and mull over them instead of just smelling the

damn thing

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post #7456 of 9047
3/7/13 at 2:23pm
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Originally Posted by rypaul View Post

Because he is the type that wants to break down a rose to its individual chemical components and mull over them instead of just smelling the
damn thing

I just don't get what he's rambling about, I can barely understand a word, and it's not just because his English is bad.

He got rid of someones dithering by doubling their black levels?

WHAT!? eek.gif
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post #7457 of 9047
3/7/13 at 2:25pm
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Originally Posted by JSpectre88 View Post

Well, 24K was only supposed to be in the THX Modes, but I remember someone knowledgeable saying it's actually ONLY in Cinema mode. I will let someone else comment on that further. If you know what you're talking about, then why are you so concerned with dithering, when it's not even possible to see from more than 2-3 feet from the TV?
THX didnt use 24K only 12K but custom if pb=low have 24K i already use that and know coz TX-PR50GT50/VT50 in prof 1-2 have 24K i have that set with my USA 50GT50 and know CInema=Custom=24K if PB=low Try it and then tell other picture mode Vivid Stand Game Thx have only 12K
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post #7458 of 9047
3/7/13 at 2:28pm
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Originally Posted by JSpectre88 View Post

I just don't get what he's rambling about, I can barely understand a word, and it's not just because his English is bad.

He got rid of someones dithering by doubling their black levels?

WHAT!? eek.gif
I ask only people who can help me no troll )) i need to correct my Vda and Vsus if u cant help me with that, thats OK also if u didnt know that ur custom have 24K just try it and than tell))
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post #7459 of 9047
3/7/13 at 2:29pm

As stated before though PB=low is very dark so how is that better overall?

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post #7460 of 9047
3/7/13 at 2:30pm
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Originally Posted by Practolog View Post

THX didnt use 24K only 12K but custom if pb=low have 24K i already use that and know coz TX-PR50GT50/VT50 in prof 1-2 have 24K i have that set with my USA 50GT50 and know CInema=Custom=24K if PB=low Try it and then tell other picture mode Vivid Stand Game Thx have only 12K

Alright, so lets say that custom on low has 24K. You might as well be watching standard then, it's barely any brighter.
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post #7461 of 9047
3/7/13 at 2:32pm
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Originally Posted by Practolog View Post

Can anyone measure the some voltage of the tv?

No offense but why don't you measure the voltage on your own plasma if you are that interested in the results. No one here that I know is going to risk damaging their plasma to do this for you.

Bill
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post #7462 of 9047
3/7/13 at 2:32pm
Bright its nothing go with colorimetr and u will see that custom with PB=low hame 120cdm like THX + U have 24K steps but one minus mll increase twice((( thats ****ing **** from Panny(( but the quallity twice better then PB=MID))
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post #7463 of 9047
3/7/13 at 2:33pm
Can you explain to me what your problem is with dithering? I'm genuinely curious.
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post #7464 of 9047
3/7/13 at 2:35pm
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Originally Posted by Bill Mac View Post

No offense but why don't you measure the voltage on your own plasma if you are that interested in the results. No one here that I know is going to risk damaging their plasma to do this for you.

Bill
I dont ask u to change some settings i just ask u measure TP of voltage to help me i need to adjust my after upgrade
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post #7465 of 9047
3/7/13 at 2:35pm
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Originally Posted by Practolog View Post

Bright its nothing go with colorimetr and u will see that custom with PB=low hame 120cdm like THX + U have 24K steps but one minus mll increase twice((( thats ****ing **** from Panny(( but the quallity twice better then PB=MID))

Twice as dark equals twice the quality? rolleyes.gif
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post #7466 of 9047
3/7/13 at 2:36pm
1-4% grey have ****ing dithering its greatly seen in BD.ISO when dark even i on 2 meters from my TV ST50 is really bad set for movies((
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post #7467 of 9047
3/7/13 at 2:37pm
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Originally Posted by Practolog View Post

Bright its nothing go with colorimetr and u will see that custom with PB=low hame 120cdm like THX + U have 24K steps but one minus mll increase twice((( thats ****ing **** from Panny(( but the quallity twice better then PB=MID))
No one is going to help you. All you've done on this thread is ask people do mess with things they shouldn't be messing with.
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post #7468 of 9047
3/7/13 at 2:38pm
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Originally Posted by JSpectre88 View Post

Twice as dark equals twice the quality? rolleyes.gif
No Contrst yes twice poorer but the quality of gradiend is twice better
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post #7469 of 9047
3/7/13 at 2:43pm

When I mess with Panel brightness the effect I am seeing is more a change in the image noise in dark area similar to what you would see with high gain settings.

I am not sure if this is what he is interpreting as dithering... Enlighten me please somebody who knows the truth about all this.

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post #7470 of 9047
3/7/13 at 2:43pm
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Originally Posted by Practolog View Post

1-4% grey have ****ing dithering its greatly seen in BD.ISO when dark even i on 2 meters from my TV ST50 is really bad set for movies((

I don't believe that. You cannot see dithering from 6 feet away.

If anything you're seeing film grain, pixelation, and imperfections in the source material.

Edit: I see what you mean when looking at a solid, dark gray background. Low does get rid of any and all dithering. Now my question is, do you watch solid, dark gray backgrounds enough that you prefer losing 2x the brightness to fix this small problem?
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