Official Panasonic GT50 Series Discussion Thread [No Street Price Talk] - Page 252

Originally Posted by JSpectre88 

Then you and "a lot of others" have binoculars for eyes.

Originally Posted by JSpectre88 

Yes, because it's actually dithering you're seeing....

Originally Posted by JSpectre88 

I don't mean any offense, every other person who thinks they have an issue with dithering was really just complaining about pixelation, film grain, etc.

I'll let that other comment slide because I'm such a nice person.

Originally Posted by JSpectre88 

Tiny moving, light colored specks inside of a color? Well idk about light colored, but very small, and colors look like they are moving close up. I don't know how to describe it accurately, but it's barely even noticeable to me until I get within 2 feet. Dithering in dark grays however is slightly more noticeable, but still not going to be seen past 6-8 feet in normal content. If you can pick out dithering in between all the film grain/pixelation though, that is quite impressive.

For years, Panasonic’s plasma TVs has widely been considered some of the best TVs when it comes to picture quality. The plasma technology has its inherent limitations and GT50 continues to struggles with reflections during daytime and dithering noise in the dark colors but besides that it is an awesome TV.

We noticed absolutely no difference in motion quality when compared to the VT50, which again, makes sense since both are specced with the same “2500hz Focused Field Drive”. In turn, this barely looked any different from the ST50, which in European countries, features a “2000hz” version of the same technology. If we were to compare 2000hz vs 2500hz versions side by side we’d perhaps see some differences, but whatever they are, they’re subtle enough to have passed us by with back-to-back in-depth reviews. All three portray absolutely excellent motion quality, and compared to last year, the dithering noise (a standard part of Plasma display technology) is disguised in a much better way compared to previous models. Phosphor trails (coloured streaks in the image) are very small. 60fps test clips (they’re 60 fields per second, not 60 frames, since we’re in-depth!) and 60fps video games all displayed wonderfully on the TX-P50GT50B, with only a light coating of dithering noise being visible during fast motion.

Originally Posted by JSpectre88 

In most dark HD content I notice absolutely terrible grain and pixelation. I don't know how you could really narrow out dither from all that. Maybe in blu-ray's I might be able to spot the dither of dark grays if the source is mostly clean, but I can't say.

Originally Posted by JSpectre88 

Yeah, but I think the GT50 would be closer to the left honestly.

Originally Posted by JSpectre88 

I really don't think it is, I have seen when the dithering looks pretty bad up close, but is not even recognizable from 6+ feet away. Dithering is literally, extremely small moving dots, past a few feet everything looks like a solid color. In rare cases you will see dark gray dithering possibly, but even then it shouldn't be more impactful than grain and pixelation. When you're watching your TV and it looks like everything is moving, that's the source material. (IMO)

Originally Posted by sheshechic 

The difference is the same as using someone elses settings on your GT, Disney WOW, AV 709 or a professional calibration, among other things like quality build.

Some people don't see dithering at 8ft either but a lot of others do, I do. BTW, I like lobster and when I can't afford it I get snow crab legs, but I won't buy fake crab, my money has more value to me than that.

Oh and I had the $200 Sony, it was good in my little living room... just good. I gave it to my step-daughter, who doesn't have a "good ear."

Originally Posted by David Bartley 

Technician came down today and tightened the screws. I didn't notice a difference. He claimed that the buzzing was normal and that I should buy acoustic tiles or even hang a blanket. I tried hanging a blanket and it had almost no effect. I then tried draping the blanket over the back part of the TV and that basically completely muffled the sound. I have hardwood floors and not much furniture, which I'm sure isn't helping. I'm really torn between getting it exchanged, because I don't know how much effect the room conditions are having

Originally Posted by JukeBox360 

In the end. It's way more if a matter if opinion vs fact. Which is why I tell people to consider the cheaper alternative. This is AVS. You've seen the crap people complain about in their things. The "problems" people go on and on about. The Abusive nature of return policies being done. So naturally the same thing is going to be said about a cheaper alternative. Here at AVS it makes more sense to buy thousand dollar of Equipment and assume you getting the better deal versus actually look into the competitive market.

Originally Posted by David Bartley 

Technician came down today and tightened the screws. I didn't notice a difference. He claimed that the buzzing was normal and that I should buy acoustic tiles or even hang a blanket. I tried hanging a blanket and it had almost no effect. I then tried draping the blanket over the back part of the TV and that basically completely muffled the sound. I have hardwood floors and not much furniture, which I'm sure isn't helping. I'm really torn between getting it exchanged, because I don't know how much effect the room conditions are having

Originally Posted by sheshechic 

When the tech tightened the screws was the tv hot or cold? Did he do anything else?

If you really like the tv, then I say give it one more shot and exchange it. I can't hear buzz unless I'm about 2" from the white area of the screen.

Originally Posted by JSpectre88 

Sorry, I didn't see your original post. You can hear buzzing from a normal viewing distance, with an average volume level? Can you only hear it on mostly white scenes or you're hearing it with anything remotely bright?

Originally Posted by David Bartley 

The TV was powered on for a minute before he started tightening screws if I recall correctly.

Originally Posted by JukeBox360 

So your are saying you don't really know. You just pay a higher price and assume it has better and more features then a cheaper one? Paying more doesn't always mean your getting more. It's basically stating any premium HDMI cable is better then a cheapo $2 one.