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post #7681 of 9713
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Originally Posted by Bill Mac View Post

This 10' 14 gauge 3 conducter power cable should work fine with my 60GT50. But I'll double check to be sure before ordering.

Bill
I've changed the link to Monoprice to include all their PC power cords. The first link was just the right angle connectors. If you enlarge the photo of the cord you are interested in, there will be an option for a close up of the connector. You should be able from that to tell if there is a match.
post #7682 of 9713
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... But I'm just not sure how well the lower priced ones actually clean up the power in ones house. I consider the 5100EX to work well but I feel it is a lower priced unit.
Monoprice is the route I was going to take. Great suggestion smile.gif. I'm done with fancy aftermarket PCs, been there done that wink.gif.

Bill

I would think a unit similar to the 5100 would be as good as any normal person would need. Some of the premium units have impressive specifications but I seriously doubt that most people could justify the cost.
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Explains the AVR pay more is better debacle. tongue.gif
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Has Amazon's TV price match guarantee always been a one time only thing? I price matched their $1899 to Pauls $1699 when I ordered the set. Pauls dropped to $1599 recently, I requested another price match and they said it was a one time only thing. Some guarantee.

The whole reason I ordered the thing when I did was to be able to price match as things went down as '13 models came out. Oh well.
post #7685 of 9713
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Originally Posted by HuskerPower25 View Post

Has Amazon's TV price match guarantee always been a one time only thing? I price matched their $1899 to Pauls $1699 when I ordered the set. Pauls dropped to $1599 recently, I requested another price match and they said it was a one time only thing. Some guarantee.

The whole reason I ordered the thing when I did was to be able to price match as things went down as '13 models came out. Oh well.
Yes. As far as I know. And it is also only within 14 days if I remember right.
post #7686 of 9713
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Originally Posted by JukeBox360 View Post

Explains the AVR pay more is better debacle. tongue.gif

I guess you can't let the discussion about AVRs go rolleyes.gif. As I said earlier invest a small amount of time educating yourself about AVRs and prepros. Then at least you will some basis of your claims that there is no differences between a $250 AVR and a $1k AVR. Until then you are clearly showing that you do not know what you are talking about wink.gif.

The other issue is the fact that some prefer to spend more on AVRs/prepros to get additional features that lower priced AVRs/prepros do not have. As discussed earlier this is a personal preference but the bottom line is if one is happy with their AVR/prepro (no matter what the cost) is all that counts. Other members (including myself) who joined in the AVR cost discussion no matter what their believes agreed on the "whatever makes you happy" concept. This concept is totally lost on you as you continue to posts your little "nuggets of wisdom" as quoted above biggrin.gif.

Bill
post #7687 of 9713
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Originally Posted by Bill Mac View Post

I guess you can't let the discussion about AVRs go rolleyes.gif. As I said earlier invest a small amount of time educating yourself about AVRs and prepros. Then at least you will some basis of your claims that there is no differences between a $250 AVR and a $1k AVR. Until then you are clearly showing that you do not know what you are talking about wink.gif.

The other issue is the fact that some prefer to spend more on AVRs/prepros to get additional features that lower priced AVRs/prepros do not have. As discussed earlier this is a personal preference but the bottom line is if one is happy with their AVR/prepro (no matter what the cost) is all that counts. Other members (including myself) who joined in the AVR cost discussion no matter what their believes agreed on the "whatever makes you happy" concept. This concept is totally lost on you as you continue to posts your little "nuggets of wisdom" as quoted above biggrin.gif.

Bill
You didn't even know about monoprice and continued to buy higher price cables because you did not know any better. Why would it seem you would know the truth about other cheaper products? YOU have failed to look at what a cheaper AVR can get you. You can get a $400 AVR that's just as good if not better then a $1200 one. And yes. I'd know. I've owned serveral. The speakers are the higher investment. Usually the more you put in the more you get out. That being said. Still doesn't mean you need to spend $1000 per speaker. You can get amazing sound quality for the price if you just look around.
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I am sure both your setups look and sound great, as to which may sound or look better as with most things

it's going to be very subjective. That's the beauty of a diverse world, we can all have different opinions about stuff

without anyone necessarily having to be 100% right or wrong. You both have valid points from my perspective

I shall now duck before I pay the price for inserting myself into your conversation smile.gif

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Originally Posted by HuskerPower25 View Post

Has Amazon's TV price match guarantee always been a one time only thing? I price matched their $1899 to Pauls $1699 when I ordered the set. Pauls dropped to $1599 recently, I requested another price match and they said it was a one time only thing. Some guarantee.

The whole reason I ordered the thing when I did was to be able to price match as things went down as '13 models came out. Oh well.

I think the Amazon policy is a great benefit and gives you that extra piece of mind on a TV purchase. It saved me several hundred just like you (but back in May 2012) when I got my 60GT50 reduced to 1699 on a Labor Day special when I ran across a better price out of the blue.

I'm sure the policy was never intended to be used for gaming the system by purchasing Amazon TV's when you fully expect the price to drop elsewhere. The Amazon returns policy is a premium bonus itself. If you really feel Paul's is a better buy then order another from Paul's and return the Amazon set. You have the power; wield it wisely. You are still not even close a real clearance price yet. Wait for something around 1/2 price then strike quickly.
Edited by tpollagi - 3/10/13 at 7:44am
post #7690 of 9713
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Originally Posted by JukeBox360 View Post

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You didn't even know about monoprice and continued to buy higher price cables because you did not know any better.

Once again you are so misinformed it is quite sad. I've been dealing with Monoprice for a number of years. So once again you make assumptions without knowing the facts. Yes at one time I did spend more on cables than needed but I learned about that by actual experience. I gladly admit this fact but as one gets more educated in audio and video we learn by our mistakes. This is a concept that is clearly lost on you wink.gif.

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Why would it seem you would know the truth about other cheaper products? YOU have failed to look at what a cheaper AVR can get you. You can get a $400 AVR that's just as good if not better then a $1200 one.

I know the "truth" because I have owned less expensive AVRs. Once again you are totally wrong as I'm well aware of less expensive AVRs and their capabilities as well as their drawbacks. Please post the information on this $400 AVR that has the features, build and sound quality of $1200 AVRs. Because if it is a reality I'd be more than glad to sell my 4311 and buy this lower cost AVR you mention wink.gif.

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And yes. I'd know. I've owned serveral. The speakers are the higher investment. Usually the more you put in the more you get out. That being said. Still doesn't mean you need to spend $1000 per speaker. You can get amazing sound quality for the price if you just look around.

If you took the time to look at my signature you would see that I'm well aware of the importance of good speakers. Also with that the location of those speakers (subwoofer as well) in my room. So your attempt at educating me on the value of speakers is a waste of time.

I'm not going to bother responding to further posts from you. The biggest reason is you just don't get it and trying to reason with someone like yourself is a waste of time. The other reason is this is a thread about GT50 plasmas and not AVRs. I'm also sure other members here do not want to see this thread hijacked by off topic discussion as well as our back and forth banter.

Bill
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Originally Posted by JukeBox360 View Post

You didn't even know about monoprice and continued to buy higher price cables because you did not know any better. Why would it seem you would know the truth about other cheaper products? YOU have failed to look at what a cheaper AVR can get you. You can get a $400 AVR that's just as good if not better then a $1200 one. And yes. I'd know. I've owned serveral. The speakers are the higher investment. Usually the more you put in the more you get out. That being said. Still doesn't mean you need to spend $1000 per speaker. You can get amazing sound quality for the price if you just look around.

The differences between cables and avrs is a terrible analogy. If you don't understand that then you should read up some more before giving people generic advice. That way you won't mislead others who may also not be as informed about the differences in avrs at different price points. I definitely use monoprice cables. But I also understand that a $250 avr is not in the same league as a $1,000 avr. I too have owned both types.
post #7692 of 9713
Sigh--my 7-month-old 50" GT50, delivered by BB July 2012, has developed an audible-at-10 ft buzz in bright scenes. Prior to this, I could hear a faint buzz a few inches away from the back of the screen, but nothing I considered problematic.

I followed sheshe's link to the ST50 buzz thread (http://www.avsforum.com/t/1444504/needhelp-plasma-buzzing-panasonic-st50-when-is-it-not-acceptabel/60#post_22713731) and found this interesting post by Donat76:
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The buzzing is caused by the coils on the inside of a TV but does not indicate a defective TV in most cases. Coil noise has plagued the graphics card industry for quit a while and Asus uses solid core chokes (coils) instead of open air chokes in their top end graphics card to reduce the vibration. Chokes vibrate all the time. It's just that they can vibrate at an audible frequency when you put a lot of power through them. Compound that with a loose screw and the noise can become louder. Most times they glob some high temperature glue on the coil to quite them down and overtime this glue can deteriorate. I bet if I put a white slide on my TV long enough, I could probably weaken that glue enough to make it buzz louder.

It caught my eye, as the buzzing problem only surfaced about a month ago when I noticed a nasty case of USA logo IR, and ran the Panny IR wipe a few times. Either I had an unlucky coincidence, or the glue may have given out with the extra dose of "white" on my screen. When I first noticed it, it was LOUD, then it subsided after a few minutes. So I've had fingers crossed that it would "take care of itself". After a month, however, that doesn't seem to be the case.

I guess I'll call for service, and see if I get lucky. Sigh

Oh, and I can still see the USA bug in light scenes, but I can live with that.
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Has anyone tried the New Samsung 5100 3d glasses with their gt50? They say their compatible with 2012 Samsung's. I bought two last night from Amazon. The design looks better than the 4100's from 2012. Im hoping they work well.
post #7694 of 9713
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Originally Posted by KK in CT View Post

The differences between cables and avrs is a terrible analogy. If you don't understand that then you should read up some more before giving people generic advice. That way you won't mislead others who may also not be as informed about the differences in avrs at different price points. I definitely use monoprice cables. But I also understand that a $250 avr is not in the same league as a $1,000 avr. I too have owned both types.
Yeah. It might be a horrible analogy. But then again I've never been very good with them. In short my main point is spending more doesn't always get you more. There comes a point when performance per dollar just isn't as evenly distributed as it should be. You start to pay a premium yet don't get a fully premium product. It's the same thing with almost anything in life. In this case I'm talking about AVR's. But this is a TV thread correct. So let's put TVs into perspective. You can have an amazing set such as this set the GT 50 or the VT 50. I look at higher-priced sets like the Sharp elite. Do you really think that set is worth its value? I sure as hell don't. That comes to the point when you're spending more just to get minor improvements. In my opinion the same exact thing applies to AVR's.

That being said I'll leave it at that. As Bill said this is not an AVR thread. So I'm sure people could care less about this debacle. And when it comes down to it. People are free to spend their money whichever way the chose.
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Originally Posted by stansbrand1 View Post

Has anyone tried the New Samsung 5100 3d glasses with their gt50? They say their compatible with 2012 Samsung's. I bought two last night from Amazon. The design looks better than the 4100's from 2012. Im hoping they work well.
I tend to stick with the original Panasonic 3-D glasses. They tend to work the best and feel the best.
post #7696 of 9713
yes but for the price difference I thought what the hell. I bought two pair. If I don't like them I'll let guests/ kids use them lol. As long as they work that is.
post #7697 of 9713
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Originally Posted by stansbrand1 View Post

yes but for the price difference I thought what the hell. I bought two pair. If I don't like them I'll let guests/ kids use them lol. As long as they work that is.

As long as they are compatible they should work exactly the same. The Panny's might be better for glare though.
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Is it easier to see IR with a moving image?
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Originally Posted by ser_renely View Post

Is it easier to see IR with a moving image?

Do you mean like a panning background? Yeah, in that case it probably would be.
post #7700 of 9713
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Originally Posted by JSpectre88 View Post

Do you mean like a panning background? Yeah, in that case it probably would be.

Yeah.

not sure if I am correct, but it seems if I look at a white background I don't see anything, but if I look at the scrolling bar I think I can make something out.... am I crazy...wouldn't be surprised with either. smile.gif
post #7701 of 9713
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Originally Posted by ser_renely View Post

Yeah.

not sure if I am correct, but it seems if I look at a white background I don't see anything, but if I look at the scrolling bar I think I can make something out.... am I crazy...wouldn't be surprised with either. smile.gif

Lol. if your looking that hard for it.... then STOP! smile.gif
post #7702 of 9713
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Originally Posted by ser_renely View Post

Yeah.

not sure if I am correct, but it seems if I look at a white background I don't see anything, but if I look at the scrolling bar I think I can make something out.... am I crazy...wouldn't be surprised with either. smile.gif

Possibly a little of both. biggrin.gif
post #7703 of 9713
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Originally Posted by stansbrand1 View Post

Lol. if your looking that hard for it.... then STOP! smile.gif

lol, I know what you mean, but I am more curious than going bonkers over it. It is very interesting to me.

I won't lie though, after a week of playing full screen content and I may be able to make out the spot on normal viewing, makes me wonder if I have an issue with my tv...is it acting abnormal and or if it will ever go away.
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Originally Posted by ser_renely View Post

lol, I know what you mean, but I am more curious than going bonkers over it. It is very interesting to me.

I won't lie though, after a week of playing full screen content and I may be able to make out the spot on normal viewing, makes me wonder if I have an issue with my tv...is it acting abnormal and or if it will ever go away.
Your tv sounds broken. Maybe it's time to move to led.
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Your tv sounds broken. Maybe it's time to move to led.

I was thinking more CRT
post #7706 of 9713
Hey everyone I have the 65gt50 and absolutely love it. I just have a question. After my break in period I used the settings on here (i know every room/setting is different but setting will be better then normal) and I have noticed motion blur/jitter on fast action scenes. The only thing I find was to turn off the 'motion smoother'......but my question is this, isnt the 'motion smoother' suppose to reduce the picture blur?
post #7707 of 9713
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Originally Posted by eurovw89 View Post

Hey everyone I have the 65gt50 and absolutely love it. I just have a question. After my break in period I used the settings on here (i know every room/setting is different but setting will be better then normal) and I have noticed motion blur/jitter on fast action scenes. The only thing I find was to turn off the 'motion smoother'......but my question is this, isnt the 'motion smoother' suppose to reduce the picture blur?
It usually ends up doing the opposite. Shows artifacts as well. The fresh rate on a plasma is plenty fast enough. There is literally no need for motion smoother.
post #7708 of 9713
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Originally Posted by eurovw89 View Post

Hey everyone I have the 65gt50 and absolutely love it. I just have a question. After my break in period I used the settings on here (i know every room/setting is different but setting will be better then normal) and I have noticed motion blur/jitter on fast action scenes. The only thing I find was to turn off the 'motion smoother'......but my question is this, isnt the 'motion smoother' suppose to reduce the picture blur?

If what you're describing is the Soap Opera effect (SOE) then no, motion smoother will make that worse. Leave it off.
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Originally Posted by JSpectre88 View Post

If what you're describing is the Soap Opera effect (SOE) then no, motion smoother will make that worse. Leave it off.

what is the "Soap Opera effect?"
post #7710 of 9713
I had a pro calibration done to my 65gt50 last week, had been watching the thx modes and thought they were Really fine,but jeez......the tv is at a new level of quality, Much better than the default thx after the calibration, I Highly recommend getting it done.
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