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post #7891 of 9713
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Originally Posted by TIME2PLAYDAGAME View Post

You want to see amazing quality....Everyone needs to watch The Hobbit on Blu Ray. I think that is the most amazing 2D picture I've seen to date. I thought the movie was great also and I'm not even a Lord of The Rings fan tongue.gif
I actually watched that the other day. Never seen lord of rings but it was a good movie. Amazing picture. Titanic still amazed me.
post #7892 of 9713
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Originally Posted by TIME2PLAYDAGAME View Post

You want to see amazing quality....Everyone needs to watch The Hobbit on Blu Ray. I think that is the most amazing 2D picture I've seen to date. I thought the movie was great also and I'm not even a Lord of The Rings fan tongue.gif

Agreed, I thought The Hobbit was incredible. I'm really curious how the 48fps version looked now.
post #7893 of 9713
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Originally Posted by sheshechic View Post

IMO, now is the time to start calling Panasonic to ask for updates/upgrades. The TV is capable since it has a dual core processor. wink.gif

Couldn't agree more, but Panasonic isn't exactly known for it's commitment to Customer Service, from the few times I've had to deal with them. In fairness, Samsung is worse.
post #7894 of 9713
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Originally Posted by JukeBox360 View Post

I actually watched that the other day. Never seen lord of rings but it was a good movie. Amazing picture. Titanic still amazed me.

How are people able to have seen the Hobbit Blu-Ray? I've got it on pre order from Amazon and they're saying it's a March 19 release date. Am I missing something?
post #7895 of 9713
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Originally Posted by davmor View Post

How are people able to have seen the Hobbit Blu-Ray? I've got it on pre order from Amazon and they're saying it's a March 19 release date. Am I missing something?
Retail stores usually get movies about two weeks before they are actually sold. If you know anyone it's very easy to have what you would like early.
post #7896 of 9713
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Originally Posted by MacNThorens View Post

On a different note.... Has anyone heard if they will be a software update to the 2012 GT50 that will offer swipe & share as on the 2013 models? Thanks.

Does anyone know what the new swipe and share on 2013 models has over the current media share on the GT50?
post #7897 of 9713
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Originally Posted by SFabozzi View Post

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Originally Posted by sheshechic View Post

IMO, now is the time to start calling Panasonic to ask for updates/upgrades. The TV is capable since it has a dual core processor. wink.gif

Couldn't agree more, but Panasonic isn't exactly known for it's commitment to Customer Service, from the few times I've had to deal with them. In fairness, Samsung is worse.

Possibly social networks could have better results? Facebook & Twitter?
post #7898 of 9713
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Originally Posted by sheshechic View Post

IMO, now is the time to start calling Panasonic to ask for updates/upgrades. The TV is capable since it has a dual core processor. wink.gif

One thing they need to do, is change the colour of the 'Menu" words...what were they thinking.

Having 'Menu" IR'd to the top of my screen is just ridiculous
post #7899 of 9713
Maybe. But it's not like you'd ever actually burn in your menu. I'd take visibility over lower colors any day.
post #7900 of 9713
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Originally Posted by ser_renely View Post

One thing they need to do, is change the colour of the 'Menu" words...what were they thinking.

Having 'Menu" IR'd to the top of my screen is just ridiculous

+1 cool.gif
post #7901 of 9713
Yes, I am using HDMI in custom mode.
post #7902 of 9713
Hm. You shouldn't be having issues with HDMI. Have a picture?
post #7903 of 9713
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Originally Posted by jmac72 View Post

Yes, I am using HDMI in custom mode.
Have you tried using the settings posted in this thread for custom mode? From your earlier post, it sounds like you are watching mostly cable channels which aren't all that "sharp" to begin with. Maybe what you are missing is how your old TV modified the images you like to watch.

If you have Blu-ray, how does that compare for sharpness?
post #7904 of 9713
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Originally Posted by JukeBox360 View Post

Maybe. But it's not like you'd ever actually burn in your menu. I'd take visibility over lower colors any day.

I would agree, clearly what I have is not perma-burn, but I certainly see the word 'Menu' IR'd on my screen and its been there for a small amount of time(3 weeks) shows little sign of disappearing, since I use the 'Menu'.

They could easily make it a bit more IR proof while barely affecting readability.
post #7905 of 9713
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Originally Posted by ser_renely View Post

I would agree, clearly what I have is not perma-burn, but I certainly see the word 'Menu' IR'd on my screen and its been there for a small amount of time(3 weeks) shows little sign of disappearing, since I use the 'Menu'.

They could easily make it a bit more IR proof while barely affecting readability.

How long do you normally leave the menu on the screen?

Bill
post #7906 of 9713
not long.

Initially messing with settings, but now not very often, but certainly 2x a day especially bc of my use of the timer and I have been IR scrolling a lot..

I certainly don't feel I am in it enough to warrant the ir.
post #7907 of 9713
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Originally Posted by ser_renely View Post

I would agree, clearly what I have is not perma-burn, but I certainly see the word 'Menu' IR'd on my screen and its been there for a small amount of time(3 weeks) shows little sign of disappearing, since I use the 'Menu'.

They could easily make it a bit more IR proof while barely affecting readability.
I think the best approach for that isn't color. It's the menu itself. A simple fix is possible. Alternate places the menu comes out each time. I imagine that would make a pretty big difference.
post #7908 of 9713
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Originally Posted by jmac72 View Post

Yes, I am using HDMI in custom mode.

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Originally Posted by JukeBox360 View Post

Hm. You shouldn't be having issues with HDMI. Have a picture?

HDMI is just a type of cable + connectors. If you pour a lower quality signal down an HDMI cable it will still be a lower quality signal when it falls out the other end. HDMI is no guarantee of good video quality. I think jmac72 is simply noticing the softer than usual scaling of 720p and maybe some weakness in the de-interlacer on the GTxx. If the softness is still present on a good 1080p source then there is problem to track down.
post #7909 of 9713
I know I'm a little late to the conversation here, but I'm curious about upscaling as well. Currently I have the box outputting 720p (for appropriate stations) and then the TV upscaling it to 1080p, as I heard this was the best option. I'm curious to see if the AVR can do a better job, but I'm not even sure what I have to do to accomplish that. It's probably something simple, but I'm just not seeing an option for it. Appreciate any help.

Thanks.
post #7910 of 9713
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Originally Posted by tom1996 View Post

What is swipe & share, is that when your teenager borrows your credit card?
Yea, and doesn't give it back, then passes it on to a friend and he passes it on to a friend. Isn't life great! :-)
SWIPE & SHARE
post #7911 of 9713
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Originally Posted by JSpectre88 View Post

I know I'm a little late to the conversation here, but I'm curious about upscaling as well. Currently I have the box outputting 720p (for appropriate stations) and then the TV upscaling it to 1080p, as I heard this was the best option. I'm curious to see if the AVR can do a better job, but I'm not even sure what I have to do to accomplish that. It's probably something simple, but I'm just not seeing an option for it. Appreciate any help.

Thanks.
Do you change the settings to output 1080i from your "box" when the station isn't 720p (ABC, Fox, or ESPN)? What happens to 480i SD stations, or do you watch them?

Our Comcast box can be set to either output 1080i or set to output 720p. The only way I can get 480i output is to set the box to output "native" which, depending on the station. would be 480i, 1080i and 720p. Using a native setting will force handshakes every time the box ouputs a different resolution. That will scramble the image for a couple of seconds.

To do what you want, you need a cable box that is capable of outputting the native resolution of all channels. Most, but not all cable boxes, are able to do that. After you change the "box" setting to native and connect it to your AVR, you can have your AVR output 1080p. You can do all of those steps and connect the box back to the TV to test whether the TV or the AVR is doing the best job. Most times the AVR will be best. That would depend on which AVR you have.

I've taken a lazy approach. When I had a 720p display, I had our box output 720p for all channels. Now that we have a 1080p display, I have the box output 1080i. So my AVR acts as a HDMI switch for video, and does none of the conversion. The TV does the deinterlacing from 1080i to 1080p. That's a very simple conversion, or so I've been told.

It helps that the only 720p that I'm likely to watch is Fox for NFL games. Everything else that we watch originates in 1080i, or comes from our OPPO as 1080p.
Edited by htwaits - 3/14/13 at 5:03pm
post #7912 of 9713
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Originally Posted by JSpectre88 View Post

I know I'm a little late to the conversation here, but I'm curious about upscaling as well. Currently I have the box outputting 720p (for appropriate stations) and then the TV upscaling it to 1080p, as I heard this was the best option. I'm curious to see if the AVR can do a better job, but I'm not even sure what I have to do to accomplish that. It's probably something simple, but I'm just not seeing an option for it. Appreciate any help.

Thanks.

The tv doesn't upscale to 1080p, it displays 720p,1080i or 1080p. It doesn't upscale. What cable box do you have and receiver? It's usually best to have your box set at 1080i as it gives a crisper image. Not all receivers are 1080p up scalers but most new ones are.
post #7913 of 9713
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Originally Posted by sheshechic View Post

IMO, now is the time to start calling Panasonic to ask for updates/upgrades. The TV is capable since it has a dual core processor. wink.gif

I called a while ago and did get through to customer service and their general consensus was that "yes it should be something that will be made available on the 2012 models". Yesterday I went onto the Panasonic site and checked with support and updates and I did not see any new updates yet. Although I did see all the new Models posted now. Kind of a bummer for us the new ST comes with two pairs of 3-D glasses. So I was just curious if somebody heard something.
post #7914 of 9713
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Originally Posted by Latinoheat View Post


The tv doesn't upscale to 1080p, it displays 720p,1080i or 1080p. It doesn't upscale. What cable box do you have and receiver? It's usually best to have your box set at 1080i as it gives a crisper image. Not all receivers are 1080p up scalers but most new ones are.
All 1080p displays must, in order to function, up convert all signals to the native resolution of the display. In this case, that's 1080p.

If you look in your manual there should be a list of resolutions that can be input to your display. All those resolutions are converted to 1080p before they can be displayed. In the past, I think there were a very few displays that could display more than on resolution, but that was technologically a long time ago. wink.gif
post #7915 of 9713
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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

Do you change the settings to output 1080i from your "box" when the station isn't 720p (ABC, Fox, or ESPN)? What happens to 480i SD stations, or do you watch them?

Our Comcast box can be set to either output 1080i or set to output 720p. The only way I can get 480i output is to set the box to output "native" which, depending on the station. would be 480i, 1080i and 720p. Using a native setting will force handshakes every time the box ouputs a different resolution. That will scramble the image for a couple of seconds.

To do what you want, you need a cable box that is capable of outputting the native resolution of all channels. Most, but not all cable boxes, are able to do that. After you change the "box" setting to native and connect it to your AVR, you can have your AVR output 1080p. You can do all of those steps and connect the box back to the TV to test whether the TV or the AVR is doing the best job. Most times the AVR will be best. That would depend on which AVR you have.

I've taken a lazy approach. When I had a 720p display, I had our box output 720p for all channels. Now that we have a 1080p display, I have the box output 1080i. So my AVR acts as a HDMI switch for video, and does none of the conversion. The TV does the deinterlacing from 1080i to 1080p. That's a very simple conversion, or so I've been told.

It helps that the only 720p that I'm likely to watch is Fox for NFL games. Everything else that we watch originates in 1080i, or comes from our OPPO as 1080p.

I have a TWC cable box. I have it set for 720p and 1080i, it will use whatever the native signal of the station is. The majority of networks output at 1080i, but then there's (ABC, Fox, ESPN), etc. which output at 720p. There's no native option, but I can "auto-select" every resolution from 480i to 1080i, so I assume that would be the same thing. The part I'm confused about is how to have the AVR do the conversion, instead of going straight through to the TV. I have everything connected to my AVR, including the box.
Edited by JSpectre88 - 3/14/13 at 5:26pm
post #7916 of 9713
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Originally Posted by Latinoheat View Post

The tv doesn't upscale to 1080p, it displays 720p,1080i or 1080p. It doesn't upscale. What cable box do you have and receiver? It's usually best to have your box set at 1080i as it gives a crisper image. Not all receivers are 1080p up scalers but most new ones are.

Sure it does. This is a 1080p fixed pixel display. Any image that fills the screen is scaled to and displayed as 1080p. If it was 1080p to start with its just mapped to the screen pixels. Everything else has to be upscaled / de-interlaced / both or it would only fill a portion of the screen and have a black box around it.

Analog CRT multi-sync displays had the ability to change scanning frequency and display whatever resolution signal they got on the full screen but now with fixed pixel displays that has all changed.
post #7917 of 9713
Doesn't make much sense for Panasonic to features from newer models to older ones. Not exactly smart from a business standpoint. I wouldn't expect any more updates for our 2012 sets.
post #7918 of 9713
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Originally Posted by tpollagi View Post

Sure it does. This is a 1080p fixed pixel display. Any image that fills the screen is scaled to and displayed as 1080p. If it was 1080p to start with its just mapped to the screen pixels. Everything else has to be upscaled / de-interlaced / both or it would only fill a portion of the screen and have a black box around it.

Analog CRT multi-sync displays had the ability to change scanning frequency and display whatever resolution signal they got on the full screen but now with fixed pixel displays that has all changed.

There are many different video signals in use which are not the same resolution (neither are all of the displays), thus some form of resolution adaptation (video scaling) is required to properly frame a video signal to a display device meaning it's scales it to fit the screen but does not up convert the signal to 1080p other wise a 1080i or 720p signal would get up converted to 1080p and you would see a difference.
post #7919 of 9713
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Originally Posted by Latinoheat View Post

The tv doesn't upscale to 1080p, it displays 720p,1080i or 1080p. It doesn't upscale. What cable box do you have and receiver? It's usually best to have your box set at 1080i as it gives a crisper image. Not all receivers are 1080p up scalers but most new ones are.
You are confusing upscaling with upconverting. That is 2 different things.
post #7920 of 9713
Well, my AVR doesn't even support it. I suppose that should have been my first stop.

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