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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

Of course. See bold face.
That was a joke.
post #7982 of 9047
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You really need to investigate your understanding. wink.gif
While you are acccessing the Wikipedia, perhaps it is you who need to do further investigation. wink.gif

Standard-definition television (SDTV) is a television system that uses a resolution that is not considered to be either high-definition television(HDTV 720p and 1080p) or enhanced-definition television (EDTV 480p). The two common SDTV signal types are 576i, with 576 interlaced lines of resolution, derived from the European-developed PAL and SECAM systems; and 480i based on the American National Television System Committee NTSC system.

Your wikipedia post says that anything above 480 is HD. This wikipedia post says the same. So 480i and 480p are not technically HD.
Edited by Bond 007 - 3/15/13 at 2:29pm
post #7983 of 9047
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So by either your post or mine. 480i is SD.
Of course it is.

EDTV was a sales pitch with a very short shelf life. It was never accepted as HDTV. There never has been a practical source for 480p material other than deinterlaced 480i from DVDs. As the Wikipedia article states, the accepted lower end of HD is 720p.

Other than how deinterlacing and scaling effect picture quality on the GT50, we are off topic for this thread. If you want to discuss it further, maybe PM would be better.
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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

Of course. See bold face.
That was a joke.
OK. biggrin.gif
post #7985 of 9047
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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

Of course it is.

EDTV was a sales pitch with a very short shelf life. It was never accepted as HDTV. There never has been a practical source for 480p material other than deinterlaced 480i from DVDs. As the Wikipedia article states, the accepted lower end of HD is 720p.

Other than how deinterlacing and scaling effect picture quality on the GT50, we are off topic for this thread. If you want to discuss it further, maybe PM would be better.
I absolutely do not.You are right and Im bored to tears with it.
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Just got home with the new 50" GT50! Pretty exciting!

Did anybody make a setup video on how to attach that base? I am confused as to which base goes on it - the instructions make no sense!
post #7987 of 9047
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Originally Posted by Mickey_C View Post

Just got home with the new 50" GT50! Pretty exciting! ... I am confused as to which base goes on it - the instructions make no sense!

How many bases did you get ?

The big flat part goes on the floor (or stand or shelf or ... ). The heavy black steel angle plate goes on top. The silver-gray spacer goes inbetween the big base and the black angle plate with the pseudo triangular side on the big base and the squarish side on top for the black angle plate. One set of bolts go up from bottom of the big base into the silver spacer and another set of bolts go down through the black angle plate into the silver spacer. Then set the tv on the base and insert the final 4 screws. That's it.





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Originally Posted by rupterr View Post

^PS4 will...
I know PlayStation 4 will. . But I'm pretty sure PlayStation 3 already supports it.
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Originally Posted by rupterr View Post

^PS4 will...
I know PlayStation 4 will. . But I'm pretty sure PlayStation 3 already supports it.
The top resolution in Sony's specs as reported at Wikipedia is 1080p. I did run across a debate on a gamers blog where someone was claiming that the PS3's video processor was powerful enough for 2160p, but other's disagreed.
post #7990 of 9047
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I absolutely do not.You are right and Im bored to tears with it.

Actually, I wasn't bored with it. It was a nice trip down memory lane.

I still have plenty of DVD 480 stuff lying around, but I ditched the DVD player long ago. Basically, the 480 'EDTV's were units that could display DVD videos using that wonderful S-VHS or component connectors. Still in the days before Tv stations went to HD. I had a nice 27" Mitsubishi with PiP for this. Something like US$850 when new.

Speaking of Blu-Ray and 4k sets, I saw a Sony 4K set at BB the other day. '4k' is a bit of a misnomer in that 4000 refers to the horizontal resolution, not the vertical like 1080. The new standard is something like 3900x2100. I think it would fit on a BluRay, but all that extra crap director's put on them would have to go. I think that is a good thing.
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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

The top resolution in Sony's specs as reported at Wikipedia is 1080p. I did run across a debate on a gamers blog where someone was claiming that the PS3's video processor was powerful enough for 2160p, but other's disagreed.

I could have sworn the system got an update that allowed it to be able to do 4K. Guess I was wrong.
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Confusing?

I own an OPPO BDP-93 and have owned earlier OPPO players. I love OPPO. I think what they have written in their promotional material is the kind of thing that many manufacturers do, and I think it's confusing.
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DVD Up-Conversion - Per-pixel motion-adaptive de-interlacing and advanced scaling transform the standard definition image on DVDs to high definition output on your TV. Additional Qdeo video processing options help to deliver a clearer, smoother, and more true-to-life picture free of noise and artifacts.

The terms (bold face) are correct, but I think they intentionally leave room for folks to assume more than is possible with words like "transform". To display a 480i (DVD) image on a 1080p fixed resolution screen, you have to map a small amount of data into an array about four times larger. While the result is in a HD 1080p format it still doesn't have HD 1080p detail because that detail was lost during the transfer from film to DVD.

While all 1080p displays can handle the required "up-conversion", almost none of them can do it as well as the better (name brands starting around $100) Blu-ray players, HD-DVD (one model mainly) players, or dedicated video processors. The value of improved "up-conversion" increases as the screen size increase. Cable and satellite boxes are probably worse than TVs. If you can deliver 1080i and 1080p to your display, that's probably the best that you can do at this time.

Imagine what a poorly transfered 480i DVD movie looks like going through the $25,000 Sony 4K projector onto a 128" screen? It's been deinterlaced from 480i to 480p, and then scaled to 2160P. That's a lot of empty spaces to fill in. wink.gif
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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

The top resolution in Sony's specs as reported at Wikipedia is 1080p. I did run across a debate on a gamers blog where someone was claiming that the PS3's video processor was powerful enough for 2160p, but other's disagreed.

I could have sworn the system got an update that allowed it to be able to do 4K. Guess I was wrong.
I don't know, but it sounds like it would be hard to do with firmware. The new OPPO players only claim to be able to Up-convert to 2160p. I"m sure that any new 4k displays will be able to do the same thing. The Sony projector that I've seen did. wink.gif
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Actually, I wasn't bored with it. It was a nice trip down memory lane. ... .

Anyone old enough to remember LaserDisk ? Yea, the big ones about the size of a LP record ( assuming you know what an LP record is ) ! If I can find it, I'm gonna hook it up the gt50 just for fun ! Maybe get out the VHS machine to !!! The ultimate torture test for the scaler in the gt50 !
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Originally Posted by weedeater View Post

Actually, I wasn't bored with it. It was a nice trip down memory lane. ... .

Anyone old enough to remember LaserDisk ? Yea, the big ones about the size of a LP record ( assuming you know what an LP record is ) ! If I can find it, I'm gonna hook it up the gt50 just for fun ! Maybe get out the VHS machine to !!! The ultimate torture test for the scaler in the gt50 !
Don't bother. Super VHS look awful on our 60" screen. The laser disks looked a bit better but still awful. Maybe Super Awful. wink.gif
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Don't bother. Super VHS look awful on our 60" screen. The laser disks looked a bit better but still awful. Maybe Super Awful. wink.gif

Maybe we need to run these through a Darbee first. Surely that will bring it up to BluRay quality smile.gif
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Hey guys! I'm a new GT50 owner. I've searched the forums and can't seem to find a answer. My tv won't connect to the Internet, Wifi or Ethernet. I've entered the WEP correctly and have the Ethernet plug in. All my other wifi devices work perfectly, any solutions would be appreciated!!
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Turns out I was right and wrong lol. It can support 4k. It got an update. To bad it was only for stills.
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Turns out I was right and wrong lol. It can support 4k. It got an update. To bad it was only for stills.
There's a world of difference. wink.gif
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Originally Posted by sheshechic View Post

Panasonic Plasma Buzzing Whining Sound 2011, 2012 Permanent Repair Fix

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YWSerwlWjM

Most of the fixes on youtube for plasma buzz are tightening screws inside, not on the back panel.

The owner of this VT30 recorded the buzz coming from the back of his set. Note the first comment by MrJesseistheman. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6_6kTyt01I

The first comment is similar on this video for buzz on an S30 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tp4ccBdHWdE

There are also several videos of ST50s with buzz.

Thank you so much for posting this. I took mine apart and tightened all the board screws and my TV is dead silent now....even on bright white slides with high contrast and brightness. Now I can watch an Apple commercial in peace tongue.gif
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Originally Posted by TIME2PLAYDAGAME View Post

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Originally Posted by sheshechic View Post

Panasonic Plasma Buzzing Whining Sound 2011, 2012 Permanent Repair Fix

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YWSerwlWjM

Most of the fixes on youtube for plasma buzz are tightening screws inside, not on the back panel.

The owner of this VT30 recorded the buzz coming from the back of his set. Note the first comment by MrJesseistheman. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6_6kTyt01I

The first comment is similar on this video for buzz on an S30 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tp4ccBdHWdE

There are also several videos of ST50s with buzz.

Thank you so much for posting this. I took mine apart and tightened all the board screws and my TV is dead silent now....even on bright white slides with high contrast and brightness. Now I can watch an Apple commercial in peace tongue.gif

Yay!!

I may have to do it some day. One guy said that they eventually loosen. I'm so glad you posted. Thank you!
post #8002 of 9047
Yea I read the comment about them possibly coming loose again if you don't replace the factory ones with washer locked screws but I wanted to get this done and didn't feel like running to Home Depot lol There were 2 particular screws on the same board he pointed out in the video that took a couple of turns, so I'm guessing they were the culprit. I made sure I tightened every screw on every board just to be sure. Mine wasn't excessive buzz but it was enough to annoy me on really bright scenes, especially all white with no audio....Like at the very end of an Apple commercial. ha ha

Be very careful when you take the panel off at the bottom...there is plastic cover that you take a screw out of, that is covering a little pcb board underneath that is connected to a main board in the TV. So take that cover off and then pop the top of the panel off and then maneuver it down and around because you can definitely break that pcb off by accident. And definitely make sure someone is helping you take the panel off. It's hard to explain but you will see what I mean if you ever try this. Good luck and thanks again smile.gif
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How many bases did you get ?

The big flat part goes on the floor (or stand or shelf or ... ). The heavy black steel angle plate goes on top. The silver-gray spacer goes inbetween the big base and the black angle plate with the pseudo triangular side on the big base and the squarish side on top for the black angle plate. One set of bolts go up from bottom of the big base into the silver spacer and another set of bolts go down through the black angle plate into the silver spacer. Then set the tv on the base and insert the final 4 screws. That's it.






That did it - I saw it and I got it setup,THANKS - finally got to watch a movie. Put on the Nemo blu ray. I am blown away by the picture, just speechless. This room is perfect for a plasma btw - no reflections, no trouble at all. I like that I can turn the lighting on dim too, and really enjoy the movie. My CCFL LCD was overwhelming - but it was over 7 years old ( cruddy little 32" westinghouse). Going from that to this is just... WOW. The blacks on the fish fins or the old fish in the tank - just mind blowing. I don't think I will ever be able to watch a cruddy set again. I am ruined!

I am now online trying to find a USB Flash drive image so I can play the slides on when I go to bed. I've been only playing the TV on standard picture mode - and the settings are all at 50, so hopefully I won't damage it. I don't have a DVR. This is a low tech home. Well it was until this incredible TV showed up. I really couldn't be happier - it's just so good.
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Originally Posted by ewall253 View Post

Hey guys! I'm a new GT50 owner. I've searched the forums and can't seem to find a answer. My tv won't connect to the Internet, Wifi or Ethernet. I've entered the WEP correctly and have the Ethernet plug in. All my other wifi devices work perfectly, any solutions would be appreciated!!

Yeah, I just went through this too - turns out I forgot that my wireless has mac address protection - I needed to enter the mac address in the router to use the normal network. I also have a guest network, that doesn't use the mac address filtering, and connected to that.

Good luck! And congratulations on your new set - this is new TV for me too, my first in 7 years, and WOW. The GT50 is everything it is cracked up to be and more.
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There's a world of difference. wink.gif
This I know.
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Is there a way to have the Panasonic remote control the cable box? Have it all setup to control the receiver and it would be nice if I could eliminate the Cable remote as well. Couldn't find anything online so i guess chances are slim but wanted to have asked. Thanks!

edit: I know I can have it all on the cable remote and that works (cox), but I would rather use the Panasonic remote instead since I wanna use the functions that the Panasonic remote offers too.
Edited by El Burrito - 3/16/13 at 1:46am
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Originally Posted by El Burrito View Post

Is there a way to have the Panasonic remote control the cable box? Have it all setup to control the receiver and it would be nice if I could eliminate the Cable remote as well. Couldn't find anything online so i guess chances are slim but wanted to have asked. Thanks!

I think you're describing a universal remote. wink.gif
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Originally Posted by Mickey_C View Post


That did it - I saw it and I got it setup,THANKS - finally got to watch a movie. Put on the Nemo blu ray. I am blown away by the picture, just speechless. This room is perfect for a plasma btw - no reflections, no trouble at all. I like that I can turn the lighting on dim too, and really enjoy the movie. My CCFL LCD was overwhelming - but it was over 7 years old ( cruddy little 32" westinghouse). Going from that to this is just... WOW. The blacks on the fish fins or the old fish in the tank - just mind blowing. I don't think I will ever be able to watch a cruddy set again. I am ruined!

I am now online trying to find a USB Flash drive image so I can play the slides on when I go to bed. I've been only playing the TV on standard picture mode - and the settings are all at 50, so hopefully I won't damage it. I don't have a DVR. This is a low tech home. Well it was until this incredible TV showed up. I really couldn't be happier - it's just so good.

You don't have to watch it in Standard. Really you don't.wink.gif
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Originally Posted by Mickey_C View Post

That did it - I saw it and I got it setup,THANKS - finally got to watch a movie. Put on the Nemo blu ray. I am blown away by the picture, just speechless. This room is perfect for a plasma btw - no reflections, no trouble at all. I like that I can turn the lighting on dim too, and really enjoy the movie. My CCFL LCD was overwhelming - but it was over 7 years old ( cruddy little 32" westinghouse). Going from that to this is just... WOW. The blacks on the fish fins or the old fish in the tank - just mind blowing. I don't think I will ever be able to watch a cruddy set again. I am ruined!

I am now online trying to find a USB Flash drive image so I can play the slides on when I go to bed. I've been only playing the TV on standard picture mode - and the settings are all at 50, so hopefully I won't damage it. I don't have a DVR. This is a low tech home. Well it was until this incredible TV showed up. I really couldn't be happier - it's just so good.

Glad the photos helped. If you are impressed with Standard at 50, you are probably going to need cardiac recessitation when you move to the custom mode and dial in HDMaster's wide color - night time settings smile.gif Seriously, standard is the dullest most lifeless setting on the TV. I can't even begin to imagine how ugly your old Westinghouse must have been if you think Standard -50's are an improvement.

Enjoy the new set smile.gif
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I'm sure someone has asked this question before, so please forgive my ignorance on this subject, but I'm trying to pair new Samsung SSG-5100GB 3D glasses to my GT50. My understanding these are just the 2013 upgrade to the SSG-4100 glasses so the procedure should be similar. Any insight would be greatly appreciated.

Best,

Sal
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