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post #8221 of 9713
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Originally Posted by Bill Mac View Post

I've never owned a PS3 but don't they have fans in them that can be quite loud? Also do the new PS3s come with a standard remote? Maybe it was the best option back in the day for bluray playback but that day has long since passed wink.gif.

Bill

The PS3 has a fan but mine it is not loud enough to annoy me when watching a movie or playing a game. In a quiet environment it could be annoying for some imo. They don't come with a standard remote but you can purchase a bluetooth remote that looks like a standard remote.

There are other options to control the PS3 as well, such as a Harmony remote with a PS3 adapter, and other devices. The PS3 is still a really good BD player, with excellent video quality.
post #8222 of 9713
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Originally Posted by Bill Mac View Post

I've never owned a PS3 but don't they have fans in them that can be quite loud? Also do the new PS3s come with a standard remote? Maybe it was the best option back in the day for bluray playback but that day has long since passed wink.gif.

Bill

Good god do they ever. My PS3 is the old fat model and the fan sounds like a muffled vacuum cleaner. It is my only bluray option at the moment but it is LOUD. I can't wait to get a dedicated bluray player. The PS3 was fine when I used it for gaming often, but I mostly use a 360 for gaming now.
post #8223 of 9713
^ The phat's sure got loud as they aged. I had one but it died so I replaced it with a slim..much quieter. Although my fat was never that loud some owners certainly had ones that sounded like a jet engine, and it sounds like yours is one of them..sorry.
post #8224 of 9713
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Originally Posted by El Burrito View Post

Very much looking forward to your settings, upon reading I felt like I could have written it. The previous tv was a Vizio GV46L 2006 which I thought was pretty decent for vizio being a cheaper maker (right?) and it being only 720p. On the other hand that might be a reason why the cable signal looked better on that tv.

I moved here a little more than a year ago coming from Austria. Back there I had a 42" 1080p Philips *whatever*, don't remember, with the stunning ambilight (a European version that's why I mentioned having moved here). I am very sad that there aren't any tv's anymore having this bcs this was an awesome feature. At first I didn't even care for that because I wanted the tv for other reasons, being top of the food chain at that time, but once I tried it I never turned it off again. Anywho, the picture on that one was really impressive, perfect viewing from _every_ angle despite that having been the flaw on that kind of tv. Only thing it lacked was vibrant, rich colors which I hoped the GT50 would deliver, hence my switch to Plasma.

Something else, yes the black is very good (hooray, something else I like, well...lol), but I feel like at times it is a little washed out to achieve that saturation. It sounds stupid I know, but when I am watching basketball I can barely see any details of the black players when it is the full court view. Close ups are no problem at all. I know most all of the NBA players but I am trying to get into College bball and the tv is giving me a hard time learning the players like that tongue.gif

Been watching with HDmasters settings for a short while now and it seems to be better than before, at least on the scienceHD and destinationHD channels. Might also be because the sun is higher now and the room is not so light flooded like it was when I entered the settings.

Here are the two settings I typically alternate between when watching OTA hockey with the lights on full:

THX BRIGHT ROOM
Contrast 100
Brightness 50
Color 55
Tint 0
Sharpness 90
Color Temp Normal
Color Management ON
CATS off
Video NR off

Advanced
Block NR OFF
Mosquito OFF
3:2 Pulldown Auto


STANDARD
Contrast 90
Brightness 65
Color 55
Tint 0
Sharpness 90
Color Temp Warm 1
Color Management OFF
CATS OFF
Video NR OFF

Advanced
Block NR OFF
Mosquito OFF
Motion Smoother OFF
3:2 Pulldown Auto

Note: If you like applying any degree of Motion Smoother you'll need to use Standard pic mode as the option is greyed out and set to OFF in either THX mode.

I can't really say which mode I like using better. Although the basic (color, contrast, etc) settings are not too far off, there has to be some significant difference in how each mode's Professional Settings are setup. I know there is a way to access the GT50 service menu and unlock the Pro Settings for each picture mode. I don't think I'm ready to try that myself but will definitely have the calibrator do so for me.

El Burrito keep in mind these two settings I use are not definitive - my GT50 is still fairly new (maybe 100 hours run time?) and I regularly play around with the settings. The tweaks I have done to Standard and THX Bright Room have made hockey more enjoyable but I still feel they are not optimal. So plug them into your set during the day when its bright and don't be afraid to make changes to best suit your preference, AND lighting conditions - *I use these settings when my basement is at its brightest but that is only with SIX mini pot lights on full blast. Another note: the room my GT50 is setup in is quite dull/cool in that the walls are a very light sky/baby blue colour, carpet & furniture is grey, and the decorative sports memorabilia I have on the walls are all black framed with little colour other than blue. Thus, I don't have the colour setting very high in these two modes (THX Bright & Standard) because vibrant colours on the screen especially reds, greens, and yellows etc really jump out and fill the room. If I were to remove my XBR4 from my main floor during the day (when set on VIVID) and fire that thing up downstairs it would probably give me a stroke! smile.gif

I think that Life of Pi BD you have coming will be an awesome demo disc to really dial in the best setting for you. I'm not quite sure what the debate is regarding your PS3 vs a stand alone BD player - the BD capabilities of the PS3 are actually quite good; it can be set to 4:4:4 output, what else do you want. I even think you can upgrade the firmware to be able to play a 3D BD in the PS3. Although I'd watch Life of Pi in 2D when trying to dial in your bright room settings.

I know what you mean about this set not being as "wow" as all the reviews might suggest - when there is a fair amount of light present. I am extremely impressed with how amazing the PQ is on my GT50 when viewing BD movies or Netflix in a theater setting (lights dimmed or completely off). I'm expecting the experience to become even more enjoyable AFTER I get my set professionally ISF calibrated.

Get yours running at a good level with the options we have, really start to understand this set's capabilities (strengths/weaknesses), then decide if you want to spring for the calibration.
post #8225 of 9713
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Originally Posted by Bill Mac View Post

I've never owned a PS3 but don't they have fans in them that can be quite loud? Also do the new PS3s come with a standard remote? Maybe it was the best option back in the day for bluray playback but that day has long since passed wink.gif.

Bill

Actually the PS3 is still considered one of the best Bluray players out there. Not only does it play games, have excellent DVD up conversion, Built in Hardrive, but was the first one to be able to play 3D bluray with just an update, while others were left in the dust. Again able to display 4k pictures just with an update. In other words if you bought it 6 years ago, it's still an excellent player while others just were useless. So many players can't play certain blurays while I never had a bluray it couldn't play. Even the inferior Oppo had problems with certain movies.
post #8226 of 9713
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Originally Posted by Latinoheat View Post

Actually the PS3 is still considered one of the best Bluray players out there. Not only does it play games, have excellent DVD up conversion, Built in Hardrive, but was the first one to be able to play 3D bluray with just an update, while others were left in the dust. Again able to display 4k pictures just with an update. In other words if you bought it 6 years ago, it's still an excellent player while others just were useless. So many players can't play certain blurays while I never had a bluray it couldn't play. Even the inferior Oppo had problems with certain movies.
And dont forget that it does a very good job of streaming also. But it should for what they cost. But as much as I dont really care for Sony I have to say my PS3 is a pretty nice device.
post #8227 of 9713
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Originally Posted by JukeBox360 View Post

Makes sense. I try to troubleshoot any video issues with a PC. I don't know why. Just easier since you can use an unlimited mount of content to test it with.

If you have a PS3 maybe you could help him by having him check his settings. I've never owned a game console.
post #8228 of 9713
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Originally Posted by JukeBox360 View Post

Most people now get them for gaming. But most people had been buying them for a blu ray back in the day. It was pretty much the best option.
OK. If goes like this. Early in the market life of Sony's Play Station it was always bought for gaming. When Blu-ray first came out, those lucky gamers had a Blu-ray player after one firmware update. Some people who couldn't wait for dedicated Blu-ray players bought Play Stations. Since dedicated players became available, the numbers of folks who bought Play Stations exclusively for Blu-ray has probably declined. If there was ever a time when "most people" bought Play Stations just for Blu-ray, it was probably a fairly short period of time in the market life of the Play Station.

Almost anyone who already owns a Play Station can get along fine playing Blu-ray disk. biggrin.gif
post #8229 of 9713
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Originally Posted by rupterr View Post

htwaits..I did look it over with a flashlight while the driver watched me and saw no cracks when I inspected it. I will take another look at it again tomorrow just to make sure. Thanks for the heads up. As far as calling Amazon I think it will just fall on deaf ears somewhere down the line...if not right away.
You were ahead of me. Great. smile.gif

As for letting Amazon know, it probably doesn't make a difference unless this driver is not an exception.
post #8230 of 9713
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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

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Originally Posted by rupterr View Post

htwaits..I did look it over with a flashlight while the driver watched me and saw no cracks when I inspected it. I will take another look at it again tomorrow just to make sure. Thanks for the heads up. As far as calling Amazon I think it will just fall on deaf ears somewhere down the line...if not right away.
You were ahead of me. Great. smile.gif

As for letting Amazon know, it probably doesn't make a difference unless this driver is not an exception.

There's a place for reviewing packing and delivery. If you need help finding it I'll take a look. It does matter.
post #8231 of 9713
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Originally Posted by Latinoheat View Post

Actually the PS3 is still considered one of the best Bluray players out there.
True but most of the name brand Blu-ray players are considered among the best. Almost all Blu-ray players do an outstanding job sending data from the disk to the display.
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Not only does it play games, have excellent DVD up conversion, Built in Hardrive, but was the first one to be able to play 3D bluray with just an update, while others were left in the dust. Again able to display 4k pictures just with an update. In other words if you bought it 6 years ago, it's still an excellent player while others just were useless.
The Play Station is a computer which is why it's so adaptable.
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So many players can't play certain blurays while I never had a bluray it couldn't play.
The installed base of Play Stations world wide is gigantic. What studio would do a Blu-ray release without testing it on a Play Station first?
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Even the inferior Oppo had problems with certain movies.
Very true. The biggest problem is badly done Java code and badly done copy protection. Even Sony's dedicated players have problems with other studio's releases. It would be interesting to know if Sony Blu-ray releases ever cause problems for Sony dedicated players. I think that Sony's "Total Recall" may have failed to play correctly on many Sony dedicated players. wink.gif

Anyone having a problem with "Total Recall" should try switching their player from bitstream to LPCM output. The problem seems to happen when an AVR does the same conversion.
Edited by htwaits - 3/21/13 at 11:37pm
post #8232 of 9713
I saw something odd playing around with HD's settings tonight. I had the TV on an input that wasn't being used so the screen was just black and I was plugging in the Night settings (I've used Day exclusively until now). When I got to Low B and started moving up, I got some pretty intense dithering visible from my seat when I went from +5 to +6. It made the screen go from pitch black to more of a dark gray.

It isn't visible during regular viewing and +5 to +8 really doesn't make a huge amount of difference in the picture, I was just wondering if it was something others have seen or if it was one of those things that vary set to set.
post #8233 of 9713
Ok I watched a couple of things on amazon prime via the tv directly as well as the ps3 through the receiver and have to say that the picture seemed much sharper when using just the tv. I don't really know if I should consider this bad or good news. It's late here now but tomorrow I will hook up everything with the tv directly as suggested and see if the receiver is the problem. This would be a step forward but two backwards at the same time... Firstly I would be shocked if the receiver actually reduced picture quality even if set to direct mode and secondly the setup of having all the signals going in the receiver and then to the tv makes switching between devices way more convenient.
Let's say I were to hook up the PS3 with the tv, would the tv be able to get the sound to the receiver at the same quality as it would be when hooked up directly? I think I read somewhere once that the tv won't put a lossless 5.1+ (In my case 7.2) through the ARC to the receiver unless using an optical cable.
Again, still hoping that it is not the receiver since I am way beyond the 30-day return period and otherwise absolutely love it. But if 50 percent of what it should do is mediocre and makes all the hdmi inputs useless...

I watched some content on Netflix as well and imho it's better on the tv too, but I didnt compare the same content as I did with amazon yet.

Ps: Thanks stuckin96 for checking your settings for me, gonna put them in tomorrow too.
post #8234 of 9713
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Originally Posted by El Burrito View Post

Ok I watched a couple of things on amazon prime via the tv directly as well as the ps3 through the receiver and have to say that the picture seemed much sharper when using just the tv. I don't really know if I should consider this bad or good news. It's late here now but tomorrow I will hook up everything with the tv directly as suggested and see if the receiver is the problem. This would be a step forward but two backwards at the same time... Firstly I would be shocked if the receiver actually reduced picture quality even if set to direct mode and secondly the setup of having all the signals going in the receiver and then to the tv makes switching between devices way more convenient.
Let's say I were to hook up the PS3 with the tv, would the tv be able to get the sound to the receiver at the same quality as it would be when hooked up directly? I think I read somewhere once that the tv won't put a lossless 5.1+ (In my case 7.2) through the ARC to the receiver unless using an optical cable.
Again, still hoping that it is not the receiver since I am way beyond the 30-day return period and otherwise absolutely love it. But if 50 percent of what it should do is mediocre and makes all the hdmi inputs useless...

I watched some content on Netflix as well and imho it's better on the tv too, but I didnt compare the same content as I did with amazon yet.

Ps: Thanks stuckin96 for checking your settings for me, gonna put them in tomorrow too.
Digital optical will support up to DD5.1 but not 5.1+. I doubt you will notice the difference. DD 5.1+ is not lossless. Only DD HD Master Audio and Dolby True HD are lossless.
So if you hook the PS3 directly to the tv the biggest sacrifice would be when playing a game or watching a bluray that is lossless and/or 7.1. The digital optical will downconvert it to DD 2.0 because the tv will not support anything above that from an external HDMI source. That will, of course, be quite noticeable.
ARC is through HDMI and is a different thing than using the digital optical port. So there is no such thing as ARC through an optical cable.
Edited by Bond 007 - 3/22/13 at 2:37am
post #8235 of 9713
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Originally Posted by Latinoheat View Post

Actually the PS3 is still considered one of the best Bluray players out there. Not only does it play games, have excellent DVD up conversion, Built in Hardrive, but was the first one to be able to play 3D bluray with just an update, while others were left in the dust. Again able to display 4k pictures just with an update. In other words if you bought it 6 years ago, it's still an excellent player while others just were useless. So many players can't play certain blurays while I never had a bluray it couldn't play. Even the inferior Oppo had problems with certain movies.

So as far as Bluray playback alone what does the PS3 do that a $100 BR player can not do? I have no need for gaming as it just doesn't interest me. Having a hard drive also has no interest and a feature I have no need for. I have an Oppo 103 and as you mention it can have issues playing certain Blurays. But the service by Oppo is outstanding something that Sony could not even come close to matching

When I was doing research for PS3s that I could buy so I could rip SACDs I found countless information of issues with PS3s. Below are just a few links discussing issues with PS3s. Included are issues when using HDMI and overheating. One doesn't have to do that broad of a search to see the PS3 has issues just like any other Bluray player (maybe worse). So maybe in your opinion the PS3 is still considered "one of the best Bluray players out there". But after a quick five minute search I would tend to doubt that is true especially from a reliabilty stand point. So for now I think I'll stay with my "inferior" Oppo wink.gif. Right now I'm listening to music with my 103 and I can't hear the fan at all. Oh thats right there is no fan with the 103 biggrin.gif. If one is just looking for Bluray playback I can't see why anyone would consider buying the PS3.

Here are a few links that lists the issues some are having with their PS3.

http://community.us.playstation.com/t5/PlayStation-3-Support/List-of-PS3-problems-solutions-if-any/td-p/3042022

http://ogglog.com/technology/games/ps3-problems/

Here are a few other links discussing issues with the PS3.

https://support.us.playstation.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/262/~/ps3-hdmi-picture-problems

http://community.us.playstation.com/t5/PlayStation-3-Support/HDMI-problem-for-ps3/td-p/36964725

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epQfkgcgwpE

This link from cnet shows that the PS3 failed several tests regarding DVD testing. Going by the numbers in this comparison the PS3 doesn't look like it was the top rated player.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AhtQ0KI9vZ0PdFpmbjkzczRETnpsY0EzOXZJSDFjU2c&output=html

Bill
Edited by Bill Mac - 3/22/13 at 5:48am
post #8236 of 9713
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Originally Posted by El Burrito View Post

Ok I watched a couple of things on amazon prime via the tv directly as well as the ps3 through the receiver and have to say that the picture seemed much sharper when using just the tv. I don't really know if I should consider this bad or good news. It's late here now but tomorrow I will hook up everything with the tv directly as suggested and see if the receiver is the problem. This would be a step forward but two backwards at the same time... Firstly I would be shocked if the receiver actually reduced picture quality even if set to direct mode and secondly the setup of having all the signals going in the receiver and then to the tv makes switching between devices way more convenient.
Let's say I were to hook up the PS3 with the tv, would the tv be able to get the sound to the receiver at the same quality as it would be when hooked up directly? I think I read somewhere once that the tv won't put a lossless 5.1+ (In my case 7.2) through the ARC to the receiver unless using an optical cable.
Again, still hoping that it is not the receiver since I am way beyond the 30-day return period and otherwise absolutely love it. But if 50 percent of what it should do is mediocre and makes all the hdmi inputs useless...

I watched some content on Netflix as well and imho it's better on the tv too, but I didnt compare the same content as I did with amazon yet.

Ps: Thanks stuckin96 for checking your settings for me, gonna put them in tomorrow too.

The PS3 being dark issue sounds to me like it's a problem with the settings in the PS3. I had a similar issue with Amazon looking way dark on the PS3 and much better when streaming through the GT50's Vierra app. Then I had Chad B do a calibration (see my calibration review a few pages back) and he checked all the settings on all my devices (including of course the PS3) and now the Amazon streaming on the PS3 is equally good (if not a bit better) as the Vierra. My problem is that I'm a bit foggy on exactly which setting he changed. I believe it had something to do with the color setting on the PS3...I want to say I had been forcing it to output at 4:4:4 which was fine for movies but made games and streaming darker. Since I now use my Oppo 103 for movies, he may have changed to color settings on the PS3 to RGB, but as I said I'm a bit foggy on that particular detail. Suffice it to say whatever he changed worked like a charm.

Regarding the receiver issue, my TV picture looked very good with HD Masters wide night settings (TV is in totally dark basement), but as I also mentioned in my calibration review, we made a change in one of the video settings on the receiver, that although it seemed like it should've been the preferred setting, was causing a rather significant color error. So I know first hand those sorts of things matter.

In any event, good luck. It really is a great TV.
post #8237 of 9713
Not sure where the settings are exactly located, but this is how it should be setup in the PS3

Set RGB to "limited" and Super White to "ON"

Setting RGB (HDMI) to Limited will ensure that the PS3 outputs proper black and white levels(16-235) with HDMI-to-HDMI connections. In addition, setting Y Pb/Cb pr/Cr Super White (HDMI) to “On” guarantees that the PS3 outputs video information above white if present in the signal.

Also make sure the hdmi setting in the tv is set to output 16-235 also. Forget off the top of my head what Panasonic calls the setting. In a Samsung it's low/normal.

My GT is scheduled to arive today biggrin.gif
post #8238 of 9713
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Originally Posted by cadett View Post

Not sure where the settings are exactly located, but this is how it should be setup in the PS3

Set RGB to "limited" and Super White to "ON"

Setting RGB (HDMI) to Limited will ensure that the PS3 outputs proper black and white levels(16-235) with HDMI-to-HDMI connections. In addition, setting Y Pb/Cb pr/Cr Super White (HDMI) to “On” guarantees that the PS3 outputs video information above white if present in the signal.

Also make sure the hdmi setting in the tv is set to output 16-235 also. Forget off the top of my head what Panasonic calls the setting. In a Samsung it's low/normal.

My GT is scheduled to arive today biggrin.gif


You can press "triangle" and bring up a popup menu on the fly while a movie is playing on the ps3, then go to the AV settings icon and select it. Then you have full control over RGB full and limited selection. I believe "super white" can be changed on the fly as well in the av settings menu.
post #8239 of 9713
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Originally Posted by rupterr View Post

You can press "triangle" and bring up a popup menu on the fly while a movie is playing on the ps3, then go to the AV settings icon and select it. Then you have full control over RGB full and limited selection. I believe "super white" can be changed on the fly as well in the av settings menu.

I believe you are correct, but these settings can also be defaulted under settings too.
post #8240 of 9713
^ yes they can. If you change them on the fly it will keep the settings though. It's nice to be able to change these settings on the fly, as you get instant results and can determine what color space you prefer for the particular content that you are watching. I know of no other BD player that this can be done on.
post #8241 of 9713
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post #8242 of 9713
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Originally Posted by HuskerPower25 View Post

Good god do they ever. My PS3 is the old fat model and the fan sounds like a muffled vacuum cleaner. It is my only bluray option at the moment but it is LOUD. I can't wait to get a dedicated bluray player. The PS3 was fine when I used it for gaming often, but I mostly use a 360 for gaming now.
Keep it dust free lol. I've never been able to hear my playstations. Unless it doesn't have room to breath of is stuffed of dust.
post #8243 of 9713
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Originally Posted by Bill Mac View Post

So as far as Bluray playback alone what does the PS3 do that a $100 BR player can not do? I have no need for gaming as it just doesn't interest me. Having a hard drive also has no interest and a feature I have no need for. I have an Oppo 103 and as you mention it can have issues playing certain Blurays. But the service by Oppo is outstanding something that Sony could not even come close to matching

When I was doing research for PS3s that I could buy so I could rip SACDs I found countless information of issues with PS3s. Below are just a few links discussing issues with PS3s. Included are issues when using HDMI and overheating. One doesn't have to do that broad of a search to see the PS3 has issues just like any other Bluray player (maybe worse). So maybe in your opinion the PS3 is still considered "one of the best Bluray players out there". But after a quick five minute search I would tend to doubt that is true especially from a reliabilty stand point. So for now I think I'll stay with my "inferior" Oppo wink.gif. Right now I'm listening to music with my 103 and I can't hear the fan at all. Oh thats right there is no fan with the 103 biggrin.gif. If one is just looking for Bluray playback I can't see why anyone would consider buying the PS3.

Here are a few links that lists the issues some are having with their PS3.

http://community.us.playstation.com/t5/PlayStation-3-Support/List-of-PS3-problems-solutions-if-any/td-p/3042022

http://ogglog.com/technology/games/ps3-problems/

Here are a few other links discussing issues with the PS3.

https://support.us.playstation.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/262/~/ps3-hdmi-picture-problems

http://community.us.playstation.com/t5/PlayStation-3-Support/HDMI-problem-for-ps3/td-p/36964725

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epQfkgcgwpE

This link from cnet shows that the PS3 failed several tests regarding DVD testing. Going by the numbers in this comparison the PS3 doesn't look like it was the top rated player.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AhtQ0KI9vZ0PdFpmbjkzczRETnpsY0EzOXZJSDFjU2c&output=html

Bill




Just like how you said, you have no need for gaming or hard rive, I have no interest in ripping SACD's in a PS3. I have a HTPC for that. You are absolutely right that if someone just wants Bluray playback ,a $100 player will do just fine. I was just stating that its still one of the best players out there since i never had any issues mentioned. As for Oppo, I love them, I was considering getting the 103 not because my PS3 was too loud but just because I just love having the newest greatest gear.
post #8244 of 9713
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Originally Posted by Latinoheat View Post

Just like how you said, you have no need for gaming or hard rive, I have no interest in ripping SACD's in a PS3. I have a HTPC for that. You are absolutely right that if someone just wants Bluray playback ,a $100 player will do just fine. I was just stating that its still one of the best players out there since i never had any issues mentioned. As for Oppo, I love them, I was considering getting the 103 not because my PS3 was too loud but just because I just love having the newest greatest gear.

I would like to know how you are ripping the SACD layer of SACDs to your HTPC. I'm all ears and I'm sure many other SACD fans are as well wink.gif.

Bill
post #8245 of 9713
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Originally Posted by Latinoheat View Post

... while others were left in the dust. Again able to display 4k pictures just with an update. ... .

Hmmmm, what does it display them on ?
post #8246 of 9713
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Originally Posted by El Burrito View Post

Ok I watched a couple of things on amazon prime via the tv directly as well as the ps3 through the receiver and have to say that the picture seemed much sharper when using just the tv. I don't really know if I should consider this bad or good news. It's late here now but tomorrow I will hook up everything with the tv directly as suggested and see if the receiver is the problem. This would be a step forward but two backwards at the same time... Firstly I would be shocked if the receiver actually reduced picture quality even if set to direct mode and secondly the setup of having all the signals going in the receiver and then to the tv makes switching between devices way more convenient.
Let's say I were to hook up the PS3 with the tv, would the tv be able to get the sound to the receiver at the same quality as it would be when hooked up directly? I think I read somewhere once that the tv won't put a lossless 5.1+ (In my case 7.2) through the ARC to the receiver unless using an optical cable.
Again, still hoping that it is not the receiver since I am way beyond the 30-day return period and otherwise absolutely love it. But if 50 percent of what it should do is mediocre and makes all the hdmi inputs useless...

I watched some content on Netflix as well and imho it's better on the tv too, but I didnt compare the same content as I did with amazon yet.

Ps: Thanks stuckin96 for checking your settings for me, gonna put them in tomorrow too.

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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

Digital optical will support up to DD5.1 but not 5.1+. I doubt you will notice the difference. DD 5.1+ is not lossless. Only DD HD Master Audio and Dolby True HD are lossless.
So if you hook the PS3 directly to the tv the biggest sacrifice would be when playing a game or watching a bluray that is lossless and/or 7.1. The digital optical will downconvert it to DD 2.0 because the tv will not support anything above that from an external HDMI source. That will, of course, be quite noticeable.
ARC is through HDMI and is a different thing than using the digital optical port. So there is no such thing as ARC through an optical cable.

There is no need to "sacrifice" anything. Just run the audio directly to the receiver and the video directly to the TV. Maximum quality is maintained for both audio and video. Maybe an extra button push to select the video input on the TV is the only difference. In the great haste to switch everything to HDMI, many people have forgotten the beautiful simplicity of a separate audio connection.
post #8247 of 9713
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There is no need to "sacrifice" anything. Just run the audio directly to the receiver and the video directly to the TV. Maximum quality is maintained for both audio and video. Maybe an extra button push to select the video input on the TV is the only difference. In the great haste to switch everything to HDMI, many people have forgotten the beautiful simplicity of a separate audio connection.
Please explain how that works.
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Originally Posted by Bill Mac View Post

I would like to know how you are ripping the SACD layer of SACDs to your HTPC. I'm all ears and I'm sure many other SACD fans are as well wink.gif.

Bill

Sorry what I meant was that, I wasn't interested in ripping sacd files in my ps3, I use my HTPC for my music files. Not SACD. Althought it can be done using a PS3 and some software I believe.

http://code.google.com/p/sacs-ripper
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Originally Posted by tpollagi View Post

Hmmmm, what does it display them on ?


A 4K TV. biggrin.gif
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Originally Posted by Latinoheat View Post

Sorry what I meant was that, I wasn't interested in ripping sacd files in my ps3, I use my HTPC for my music files. Not SACD. Althought it can be done using a PS3 and some software I believe.

http://code.google.com/p/sacs-ripper

Man I thought you were on to something that I wanted in on smile.gif. I believe the PS3s that can be hacked to rip SACDs are older models and have to have 3.55 FW or lower. I looked into it and it is a bit risky doing the hack and finding an older PS3 with FW 3.55 or lower. After doing a lot of reading on the process I decided it was not worth the risk to buy an older PS3 then do the hack and have issues with it. The PS3s with the correct FW are going for $250 on up as they are in high demand.

Bill
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