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post #8881 of 9713
I wouldn't have thought to do that, but perhaps I should. How exactly would I check the router for a firmware update?
post #8882 of 9713
Log into your router with a browser, default address is probably 192.168.0.1. This will bring up a log-in screen with the User sometimes stored and the Pass sometimes blank or you can easily Google your specific router for either. Poke around in Settings until you find firmware update and voila!
post #8883 of 9713
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Originally Posted by tpollagi View Post

I just spent a little more time with YouTube. There does appear to be a very brief period at the beginning of some (but no all) videos in which the audio does not start as quickly as the video. Is this what you are having problems with ? The "rewind" button is kinda useless also but I have no idea if that ever worked.

Yes! Exactly! And it does it on all videos from what I can tell. Is this on the GT50 or the ST50? Or both?
post #8884 of 9713
I just tried using YouTube on my Nintendo Wii U, which uses this exact same app. It doesn't have this same problem I've been experiencing on my GT50, but video playback is horrible on it, and not smooth. So this definitely means it isn't a problem with the app alone.
post #8885 of 9713
Let's face it, YouTube isn't going to invest a lot into servers. I'll check it with my GT50 tonight (although I have had difficulty with Netflix getting audio to ARC, I'm sure it's a setting in the TV or the AVR), I will also test with the ATV and the PS3.
post #8886 of 9713
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Originally Posted by ssetta View Post

I just tried using YouTube on my Nintendo Wii U, which uses this exact same app. It doesn't have this same problem I've been experiencing on my GT50, but video playback is horrible on it, and not smooth. So this definitely means it isn't a problem with the app alone.

How do you know it's the exact same app?
post #8887 of 9713
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Originally Posted by sheshechic View Post

How do you know it's the exact same app?
Because the interface is identical.
post #8888 of 9713
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Originally Posted by ssetta View Post

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Originally Posted by sheshechic View Post

How do you know it's the exact same app?
Because the interface is identical.

That doesn't make them exactly the same, many aren't, that's the thing about apps.
post #8889 of 9713
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Originally Posted by sheshechic View Post

That doesn't make them exactly the same, many aren't, that's the thing about apps.
Okay then maybe it isn't the same app. How exactly can you tell? As I said, on the Wii U it didn't have this problem I've been having on the GT50 where it cuts off the first 2 seconds, but it has a different problem where the playback is jittery and not smooth. Just go to www.youtube.com/tv and you'll see what I mean.
post #8890 of 9713
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Originally Posted by sheshechic View Post

That doesn't make them exactly the same, many aren't, that's the thing about apps.
Okay then maybe it isn't the same app. How exactly can you tell? As I said, on the Wii U it didn't have this problem I've been having on the GT50 where it cuts off the first 2 seconds, but it has a different problem where the playback is jittery and not smooth. Just go to www.youtube.com/tv and you'll see what I mean.
On your own you would have to compare the source code for the app. If you trust the people who issue the app, they might tell you if there are any differences. In most cases the app probably has to change in order to work on different hardware. The interface can be the same across hardware platforms.
Edited by htwaits - 5/1/13 at 12:01am
post #8891 of 9713
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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

On your own you would have to compare the source code for the app. If you trust the people who issue the app, they might tell you if their are any differences. In most cases the app probably has to change in order to work on different hardware. The interface can be the same across hardware platforms.
Where would I get the source code for this? I have called Panasonic several times and they don't seem to be of much help. I do want this issue resolved and I'm pretty much at a loss of what to do. Is there a way I could somehow uninstall the app and then reinstall it again?
post #8892 of 9713
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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

On your own you would have to compare the source code for the app. If you trust the people who issue the app, they might tell you if their are any differences. In most cases the app probably has to change in order to work on different hardware. The interface can be the same across hardware platforms.
Where would I get the source code for this? I have called Panasonic several times and they don't seem to be of much help. I do want this issue resolved and I'm pretty much at a loss of what to do. Is there a way I could somehow uninstall the app and then reinstall it again?

Have you tried watching from the tv's web browser to see if it performs similarly?

One more question: what is your internet connection?
post #8893 of 9713
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Originally Posted by sheshechic View Post

Have you tried watching from the tv's web browser to see if it performs similarly?

One more question: what is your internet connection?
Yes I have tried the web browser and it plays fine. I use Verizon FiOS.
post #8894 of 9713
Well, then it does sound like there's a problem with the app on your tv (corrupted or damaged by the update?). You'll have to decide what you're going to do about it. You can push Panasonic to let you speak to someone more knowledgeable about that specific area. Customer service reps know very little and mostly work from cheat sheets (seems to be the American way these days). Another option is to return the tv for a refund, or exchange it for another or a newer model.
post #8895 of 9713
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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

On your own you would have to compare the source code for the app. If you trust the people who issue the app, they might tell you if there are any differences. In most cases the app probably has to change in order to work on different hardware. The interface can be the same across hardware platforms.
Where would I get the source code for this?
You can't. It's probably proprietary unless it's developed by the public like FireFox.
post #8896 of 9713
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Originally Posted by sheshechic View Post

Well, then it does sound like there's a problem with the app on your tv (corrupted or damaged by the update?). You'll have to decide what you're going to do about it. You can push Panasonic to let you speak to someone more knowledgeable about that specific area. Customer service reps know very little and mostly work from cheat sheets (seems to be the American way these days). Another option is to return the tv for a refund, or exchange it for another or a newer model.

I paid $1200 for this TV and I am currently not interested in getting a refund. I mainly just want to know if it's just me or it's happening to others as well. It's good to see that another user has said they experienced something similar, but I have not been able to find anything else on the Internet regarding this issue. I wonder how many people even use smart TV for watching YouTube.
post #8897 of 9713
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Originally Posted by ssetta View Post

I paid $1200 for this TV and I am currently not interested in getting a refund. I mainly just want to know if it's just me or it's happening to others as well. It's good to see that another user has said they experienced something similar, but I have not been able to find anything else on the Internet regarding this issue. I wonder how many people even use smart TV for watching YouTube.
Ive never used the Youtube app.
post #8898 of 9713
I didn't take the time to review the 8900 posts to see if this is a common issue, but I figured I would share.

I bought my 60GT50 on May 25, 2012.

The TV was originally in my bedroom and was hardly used for 3 months and then wasn't used for the next 6 months while I was in Germany.

I came home from work yesterday and noticed what appeared to be burn in (see photo).

The TV was off all day while I was at work and was only used for an hour the night before.

I called Panasonic, and they said they haven't heard of this before and have escalated the issue. But before I got off the phone, they said they would do not warranty any burn in issues.

I ran scrolling bars for 2 hours and it is now gone. Not sure what would cause this or if anyone else has experienced this before.

post #8899 of 9713
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Originally Posted by ssetta View Post

I paid $1200 for this TV and I am currently not interested in getting a refund. I mainly just want to know if it's just me or it's happening to others as well. It's good to see that another user has said they experienced something similar, but I have not been able to find anything else on the Internet regarding this issue. I wonder how many people even use smart TV for watching YouTube.

I have found using the browser on the TV to be annoying, even after connecting a keyboard. I have only tried minimal streaming, i.e., brief freebies, via the TV and decided that it would be simpler using my Panasonic DMP-BDT220 should I ever want to stream a movie. I have streamed movies from Netflix in the past using my old DVD player and found it to be very easy.
post #8900 of 9713
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Originally Posted by ssetta View Post

I wonder how many people even use smart TV for watching YouTube.
That's a very good question. I never have, and given the quality of YouTube that I see on our computer monitors, I'm puzzled that others would.
post #8901 of 9713
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Originally Posted by tom1996 View Post

I have found using the browser on the TV to be annoying, even after connecting a keyboard. I have only tried minimal streaming, i.e., brief freebies, via the TV and decided that it would be simpler using my Panasonic DMP-BDT220 should I ever want to stream a movie. I have streamed movies from Netflix in the past using my old DVD player and found it to be very easy.

Is the quality BETTER on the Blu-ray than on the TV? Because if that's the case, maybe I should invest in one of those. Though what exactly do you mean by "simpler?"
post #8902 of 9713
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Originally Posted by b.corso View Post

I ran scrolling bars for 2 hours and it is now gone. Not sure what would cause this or if anyone else has experienced this before.

Are you sure you don't have a lighting source behind the TV? These are known to let light through. You should be able to temporarily block the vents to see if it stops it just to confirm.
post #8903 of 9713
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Originally Posted by ssetta View Post

Is the quality BETTER on the Blu-ray than on the TV? Because if that's the case, maybe I should invest in one of those. Though what exactly do you mean by "simpler?"

I don't think the Blu-ray player had any affect on the picture quality. The TV browser has several apps or links to various sources for streaming, such as Netflix and VUDU. I found that once I used the VUDU link and I entered my personal info, which was supposed to facilitate logging on in the future, I ran into problems and could not get to VUDU. I tried to figure out what I did wrong but finally gave up. That wasn't the case using the Blu-ray player.
post #8904 of 9713
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Originally Posted by HD-Master View Post

Each HDMI input has its own set of picture modes. The only two inputs worth calibrating are THX Cinema and Custom. Custom is calibrated entirely from the user menu, while THX Cinema requires that you enter the service menu. You also can't change the gamma setting in THX Cinema if you prefer 2.4 over 2.2.

If using one HDMI input on your GT50:

Calibrate THX (via service menu) for darker room viewing conditions and calibrate Custom for brighter room viewing conditions. To switch from day to night, you simple change the picture mode accordingly.

If using an HDMI splitter:

Calibrate either THX Cinema or Custom on one HDMI input for dark room viewing conditions. Calibrate either THX Cinema or Custom on another HDMI input for brighter room viewing conditions. To switch from day to night, you simply change the input.
I calibrated my gt50 using the THX app on IPhone 5. The only adjustment needed was to turn color up to 60 and sharpness to 0.
post #8905 of 9713
Color of 60 ? That must be white hot
post #8906 of 9713
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Originally Posted by nrc2112 View Post

I calibrated my gt50 using the THX app on IPhone 5.

Tinkering with a phone app isn't the same as calibrating.
post #8907 of 9713
Why not? It has all of the THX patterns as Spears and Munsel or the THX disc.
post #8908 of 9713
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Originally Posted by ssetta View Post

I paid $1200 for this TV and I am currently not interested in getting a refund. I mainly just want to know if it's just me or it's happening to others as well. It's good to see that another user has said they experienced something similar, but I have not been able to find anything else on the Internet regarding this issue. I wonder how many people even use smart TV for watching YouTube.

Same thing on both the ST and GT. I can't say for sure that it does or does not occur on all content because some of the content intentionally appears to have no audio during the first few seconds. Take at look at the goofy teddy bear operation crap and I think you will see / hear what I mean. Don't hold your breath about getting this fixed. If Panasonic is having a problem with the YouTube app on the 2013 models they would probably ask Google to rework some of their YouTube code in the TV app. If that new code is backward compatible to the 2012 models then maybe Panasonic will eventually provide an update for the older sets. Otherwise I really don't think they care about something so minor on a discontinued model.

Your TV is working fine; the app has a glitch.
post #8909 of 9713
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Originally Posted by chunon View Post

Color of 60 ? That must be white hot
No

Looking through Red color filter it is correct in a completely dark room.
post #8910 of 9713
That goes against every set of settings I have seen for the gt50 some done by professionals
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