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post #9061 of 9713

Nice find.

I wonder if this procedure also grants you 30 extra days of Netflix :)

post #9062 of 9713
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Originally Posted by rypaul View Post

I think he would have to log on to the Netflix account on a computer and
remove the TV from the list of associated devices on the account.
At least that's how it used to work
You're correct that's how it used to work. It was a concern of mine when I got the AVR, ATV and the Panny. They do it by IP now I believe.

I would log in from your computer and see that everything's kosher there and start troubleshooting back. Can you access Netflix with other devices?
post #9063 of 9713
I need someone to point me in the right direction regarding IR removal.

I have the TC-P60GT50, which is about 6+ weeks old with about 350 hours on it, bought it mid April 2013.

I have done nothing to it as far as adjustments and view it in the THX movie mode, full screen only, trying to stay on the 1080 HD channels from my cable company.

Since day one, between the kids and wife using it, they listen to me to some extent and have not kept watching the same channels with bright logos on the screen, especially the first few weeks.

Last night as we were watching a movie (Prometheus) in full 1080, when a scene went bright white I noticed IR of the ESPN logo in light white on the bottom of the screen. My son admitted that he watches ESPN at 20 minute clips every morning and I watch it at 10-15 min clips in the evening, so that might explain it.

So, what's the best way to get rid of the IR for my current situation? As I read many pages, it seems that the Disney WOW disc is one option, is this the best way to approach it or is there a better solution for this model?

I've been pretty busy at work, so I've not had much time to setup the TV settings to optimize it but plan on it within the next few weeks, so far the picture quality is mind blowing!
post #9064 of 9713
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Originally Posted by ElectroMike View Post

I need someone to point me in the right direction regarding IR removal.

I have the TC-P60GT50, which is about 6+ weeks old with about 350 hours on it, bought it mid April 2013.

I have done nothing to it as far as adjustments and view it in the THX movie mode, full screen only, trying to stay on the 1080 HD channels from my cable company.

Since day one, between the kids and wife using it, they listen to me to some extent and have not kept watching the same channels with bright logos on the screen, especially the first few weeks.

Last night as we were watching a movie (Prometheus) in full 1080, when a scene went bright white I noticed IR of the ESPN logo in light white on the bottom of the screen. My son admitted that he watches ESPN at 20 minute clips every morning and I watch it at 10-15 min clips in the evening, so that might explain it.

So, what's the best way to get rid of the IR for my current situation? As I read many pages, it seems that the Disney WOW disc is one option, is this the best way to approach it or is there a better solution for this model?

I've been pretty busy at work, so I've not had much time to setup the TV settings to optimize it but plan on it within the next few weeks, so far the picture quality is mind blowing!
Yes, the Disney WOW disc is your best option.....
post #9065 of 9713
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Originally Posted by eric3316 View Post

Yes, the Disney WOW disc is your best option.....

Not knowing what a Disney WOW disc is I went to Amazon. Most people who bought it like it a lot, but it seems to be for calibrating a new TV set, although as noted in the reviews, you may not need it if you've used recommended settings and are happy with it.

However, I could not find any mention of removing IR.
post #9066 of 9713
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Originally Posted by tom1996 View Post

Not knowing what a Disney WOW disc is I went to Amazon. Most people who bought it like it a lot, but it seems to be for calibrating a new TV set, although as noted in the reviews, you may not need it if you've used recommended settings and are happy with it.

However, I could not find any mention of removing IR.
It has something called a pixel flipper on it. Make sure to get the blu-ray dvd. Also, the single disc is all that is needed, not the 2 disc version.
post #9067 of 9713
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Originally Posted by eric3316 View Post

Make sure to get the blu-ray dvd.

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post #9068 of 9713
Has anyone tried the IR removal tool in the GT50 settings? If so, how did that work for you?
post #9069 of 9713
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Originally Posted by Mongo171 View Post

Has anyone tried the IR removal tool in the GT50 settings? If so, how did that work for you?

I personally haven't used it but some have in these forums, and it worked fine for them. Another good way to get rid of IR, is to play a full screen Pixar animated bluray. Seems to work for a lot of people that get it. That WOW disc seems to work as well using their pixel flipper.
post #9070 of 9713
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Originally Posted by Mongo171 View Post

Has anyone tried the IR removal tool in the GT50 settings? If so, how did that work for you?

I just got home and tried it, it runs for a 15 min cycle and runs vertical white/black colums which are about 20" wide, the height of the screen. It did nothing for the TV, but during this cycle I noticed that in addition to the ESPN logo, right over it is the MTV2 logo which is the 2 headed dog, so now I see what my daugher watches after school. eek.gif.

I'll order the WOW disc as I see the person who produced it is also on these forums, so I don't mind supporting the local community IF it works.
post #9071 of 9713

I just watched full screen content and used the zoom feature when I watched something on comedy central which was the offending logo for me. After a couple days it went away. I still question whether this is IR or this is a result of the bright logos aging those pixels faster in the early weeks of the TV's life. Whatever the case avoiding displaying the logos in the same position and watching stuff that makes random use of those areas of the screen should sort you out after a couple days. Good luck

post #9072 of 9713
Quote:
Originally Posted by ElectroMike View Post

I need someone to point me in the right direction regarding IR removal.

I have the TC-P60GT50, which is about 6+ weeks old with about 350 hours on it, bought it mid April 2013.

I have done nothing to it as far as adjustments and view it in the THX movie mode, full screen only, trying to stay on the 1080 HD channels from my cable company.

Since day one, between the kids and wife using it, they listen to me to some extent and have not kept watching the same channels with bright logos on the screen, especially the first few weeks.

Last night as we were watching a movie (Prometheus) in full 1080, when a scene went bright white I noticed IR of the ESPN logo in light white on the bottom of the screen. My son admitted that he watches ESPN at 20 minute clips every morning and I watch it at 10-15 min clips in the evening, so that might explain it.

So, what's the best way to get rid of the IR for my current situation? As I read many pages, it seems that the Disney WOW disc is one option, is this the best way to approach it or is there a better solution for this model?

I've been pretty busy at work, so I've not had much time to setup the TV settings to optimize it but plan on it within the next few weeks, so far the picture quality is mind blowing!

The GT50 has a pixel orbiter feature for anti IR. Unfortunately, the THX modes do not let you activate this feature. So although the THX Cinema mode is a fairly safe mode for viewing (in that it is an overall dimmer image), you are not able to utilize the orbiter. I'd suggest finding the many picture settings referenced in this thread - I think "HD Master" is what most people feel looks best; pretty sure I'm using those setting as the base for my Custom picture mode. Plug those or other popular referenced settings into your Custom mode and then turn on the pixel orbiter.

As for the scrolling bars, I have noticed they do work to wipe out IR if you attack IR quickly. The programming /activity that displays the brightest fixed images on my set is the odd time I sit down to play nazi zombies on PS3 (COD World at War). For those who know, the game play is generally quite dark but the levels are kept track by these bright bloody red vertical strokes in the bottom left hand corner. Each level you advance another stroke comes up until you get four down (IIII) and one across and then another set of 5 starts. I don't veg out for more than 30-45 minutes at a time and my routine once I'm done is to start up the scrolling bars at which point I can always pick up IR from those bloody strokes in the bottom corner. However, after just two or three passes of the scrolling white block the IR is already being washed out. After literally 20-30 seconds they are practically gone, at which point my routine is to switch to OTA/TV and surf channels to find any content to watch for at least 5 minutes before turning off the set. My personal belief is that playing the game for 30+ minutes, 30 seconds of scrolling bars, and 5 minutes of normal content viewing is better at eliminating IR than playing the game for 1-2 hours, running the scrolling bars for 15 minutes, then playing an entire 16:9 BD. I realise its not practical to expect this from my wife or kids so I generally don't worry about what they do other then constantly remind them to turn off the set when they leave the room, but when I get my time to watch TV I'm always hands on with regards to juggling content.

Another trick I use is to change the aspect setting every 30 minutes. The only other programming I watch on my GT50 for extended periods of time (2+ hours) is NHL hockey. The CBC logo is translucent so not much worry there. But those solid fixed scoreboards atop the screen are a real concern. B/c I tend to watch hockey using a modified Standard picture mode which is very bright and colour saturated (with pixel orbiter ON of course), I will toggle the aspect mode after each period > if you've never played with this setting try it out. By defualt I leave my TV viewing set at whichever setting is the 95% scan, which ensures the entire screen is filled. When you select the 100% scan the viewable TV content will actually expand (seeing more on either side) but the content will not entirely fill the sides of the screen. A slight black line will be shown on one side and/or possibly the bottom. This obviously wouldn't be desired as a permanent setting b/c you'll have a thin strip of pixels that are constantly black when watching TV (just like watching too many movies with black bars top and bottom). Anyways, during viewing of channels that have opaque logos try changing the aspect setting every 20-30 minutes b/c you will notice the location of the logo will shift. In some cases, the location of the logo (if its smaller) will shift over by one full length/width of the logo, literally placing it beside where it was previously. This will naturally limit the time the logo spends burning into one set of pixels.

Finally as rypaul said, zooming in content is another good option. I sometimes will use zoom when watching a 2.35:1 film and although at first it seems terrible and sacrilege to do, after a while and depending on the film you forget about it. You could also try toggling through the other Format modes; I find that for stretched 4:3 TV content there are a few modes that augment the far ends of the picture which again could end up shifting the position of some static logos.

Try using the scrolling bars for half a minute after 30 minutes of logo'd programming (commercial break would be perfect time), use the aspect and/or zoom options to shift logo location, and use a picture setting (Custom, Standard, etc) that will enable you to turn the pixel orbiter on.
post #9073 of 9713
Quote:
Originally Posted by ElectroMike View Post

I need someone to point me in the right direction regarding IR removal.

I have the TC-P60GT50, which is about 6+ weeks old with about 350 hours on it, bought it mid April 2013.

I have done nothing to it as far as adjustments and view it in the THX movie mode, full screen only, trying to stay on the 1080 HD channels from my cable company.

Since day one, between the kids and wife using it, they listen to me to some extent and have not kept watching the same channels with bright logos on the screen, especially the first few weeks.

Last night as we were watching a movie (Prometheus) in full 1080, when a scene went bright white I noticed IR of the ESPN logo in light white on the bottom of the screen. My son admitted that he watches ESPN at 20 minute clips every morning and I watch it at 10-15 min clips in the evening, so that might explain it.

So, what's the best way to get rid of the IR for my current situation? As I read many pages, it seems that the Disney WOW disc is one option, is this the best way to approach it or is there a better solution for this model?

I've been pretty busy at work, so I've not had much time to setup the TV settings to optimize it but plan on it within the next few weeks, so far the picture quality is mind blowing!

I've been there. The persistant IR seems to be a result of build-up that occurs when the TV is run after an extended period of it being off. My guess would be that when first turned on, something drives the set in a way that promotes IR until it settles down. This is a real problem when channels like ESPN are the very first thing you start watching. The bad news is (at least in my case), this will take months to clear. The good news is, it does indeed clear (took four months for me to clear a station logo that was on first thing every night for less than 50 minutes and punctuated with commercial breaks and I never returned to that channel over that period).

I now make it a habit to never start watching anything static within half an hour of turning the TV on. I'm a heavy gamer and I sometimes do 3-4 hour sessions with persistant hud graphics that are often solid white and I've never (in nearly a year of ownership) had any lasting IR. But I figure that is because all my gaming is done in the evening after the TV has already been on for more than a couple of hours.
Totally impractical I know, but thats what it has come down to for me. I'd very much like to automate a way for the TV to turn on and run something like the scroll bar for 15-20 mins at the start of each evening, but Panasonic decided not to give us any IP control of power up.
post #9074 of 9713
Guys, thank you for the great length of details in the last two posts, this is fantastic info, which makes great sense to me and something that I did not put together in my mind!

From what I gathered, the main reason for my IR logos is, my 14 y.o. son wakes up and watches 20 solid minutes of ESPN every morning before school, so it makes sense what the TV is cold, gets the 20 min IR, gets shut off. Kids come back from school, at 3:30pm the TV is cold, turns on to MTV2 from by 12 y.o daughter and those are the two logos left.

By the time I watch the TV in the late evening, the TV has been runing on/off for the 5-6 hours of various shows, so the 1-2 or so hours I get to watch of a Baseball or Hockey game or something in the discovery, history or other shows with a logo, those logos never leave IR for me and I could not figure out why but it makes sense that TV was already warm and they don't settle in!

So I guess for the future, I'll ask my kids to keep changing the viewing ascept, which they will do, and at least these logos will move around on the screen and when I'm home I'll run the bars and try the Disney Wow disc (which I will order today).
post #9075 of 9713

"Panasonic decided not to give us any IP control of power up."

 

Actually if you turn on "Wake on LAN" under Network then use a program like

'WakeOnLanGui' you can have the tv switch on by sending it a signal from a PC.

I figure there are probably other software programs out there that could be set

up with timers to send the switch on signal at times of your choosing.

As for a 20 minute screen wipe the PC that powers on the tv could be set to

push a 20 minute wipe style video over DLNA to the tv one minute after the

turn on signal.

I am tempted to try to set this up myself just to see if I could get it to work :)

post #9076 of 9713
Hello. Anyone know whether I should output my blu ray player to 8bit, 10bit, etc, auto???

Does the gt50 have 10bit display capability? Thanks!
post #9077 of 9713
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Originally Posted by rypaul View Post

"Panasonic decided not to give us any IP control of power up."

Actually if you turn on "Wake on LAN" under Network then use a program like
'WakeOnLanGui' you can have the tv switch on by sending it a signal from a PC.

Damn. Looks like it my NZ model misses out on that feature. At least its not called WOL if it is there.
post #9078 of 9713
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Originally Posted by redbulluci View Post

Hello. Anyone know whether I should output my blu ray player to 8bit, 10bit, etc, auto???

Does the gt50 have 10bit display capability? Thanks!

Won't make much difference since BD's are 8 bit. The GT50 has 24k graduations of greyscale or some poof-hooey like that which kinda suggests the internal processing is 13 bits per channel. Just pick a good source disk and try the different settings and see if you can see any difference.

I have no idea at this point but they used to market BD players as 10 bit simply because the HDMI connection was capable of 10 bit color per channel.
post #9079 of 9713
This is for any soccer fans out there, check out the U21 Spain Vs. Russia game on today, I'm watching it right now and it looks excellent, very good HD cable transfer feed. No motion blur, or panning , just beautiful. I post this because a lot of games vary depending the cable HD feed. I'm watching onTSN2 (Canada)
post #9080 of 9713
I posted about this issue a while back, but a new discovery once I started Netflix
Netflix app sends 5.1, other apps on Viera link send only stereo.
Anyone know why this is?
way to change it?

...using ARC HDMI through AVR
post #9081 of 9713
That's up to the content provider. Netflix rolled out Dolby a while ago, but don't hold your breath on free services putting out that much bandwidth.
post #9082 of 9713
Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveHas View Post

I posted about this issue a while back, but a new discovery once I started Netflix
Netflix app sends 5.1, other apps on Viera link send only stereo.
Anyone know why this is?
way to change it?

...using ARC HDMI through AVR

Do you get true 5.1 out of ARC on Netflix ?
post #9083 of 9713
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Originally Posted by chunon View Post

Do you get true 5.1 out of ARC on Netflix ?
Should as long as the movie is 5.1. Not all of them are.
post #9084 of 9713
Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveHas View Post

I posted about this issue a while back, but a new discovery once I started Netflix
Netflix app sends 5.1, other apps on Viera link send only stereo.
Anyone know why this is?
way to change it?

...using ARC HDMI through AVR
Hulu and Vudu should be DD 5.1. Amazon should be PCM.
post #9085 of 9713
Hello everyone, i have a 55 inch gt50 and i'm wondering since the 2.6 gamma setting is actually closer to 2.2 would the 50 and 55 inch model be capable of a target gamma of 2.4? Or is it just capable on the 60-65 inch versions since 2.4 is closer to 2.2 target?
post #9086 of 9713
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Originally Posted by Ryan25 View Post

That's up to the content provider. Netflix rolled out Dolby a while ago, but don't hold your breath on free services putting out that much bandwidth.

their listings of the programs for these service state that certain movies are broadcast in surround.
Its not a matter of the esrvice not broadcasting in surround, its a matter of the app or the GT50 not sending surround signal to AVR
post #9087 of 9713
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

Hulu and Vudu should be DD 5.1. Amazon should be PCM.

thanks for the reply
not getting DD 5.1 from either through ARC HDMI
only Netflix

same outcome through Panny Blu-Ray player as well
post #9088 of 9713
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

Should as long as the movie is 5.1. Not all of them are.

AVR says its getting true 5.1, when available from Netflix only

Is anyone else with same gear having this issue?
post #9089 of 9713
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

Should as long as the movie is 5.1. Not all of them are.

I have never gotten 5.1 out of arc and to me it is very flakey
post #9090 of 9713
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Originally Posted by chunon View Post

I have never gotten 5.1 out of arc and to me it is very flakey
I agree it can be flaky. Thats why I dont use it. No real benefit to me. But it will carry 5.1.
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