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post #9391 of 9713
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Originally Posted by spawnofwar1600 View Post

need an opinion
If you had a choice between a 60 " gt50 and 55 " vt60 which one would you go for?
ill be sitting about 14 feet away from the tv, most viewing would be in dim or dark in the basement....
Cheers!

As others have said, go for the bigger GT. In fact, at that distance, if at all possible try to get the 65". We sit 12 ft away and our 65GT50 is on the small side, let alone the 55".
post #9392 of 9713
Thanks for the replys peeps!
Im leaning towards the gt50 too but one concern is lack of the 96hz option, im a big 24p buff, there have been complaints about flicker @ 48hz.
post #9393 of 9713
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Originally Posted by spawnofwar1600 View Post

Thanks for the replys peeps!
Im leaning towards the gt50 too but one concern is lack of the 96hz option, im a big 24p buff, there have been complaints about flicker @ 48hz.

What do you think 96hz option will do? I have never witness flicker on my GT50.
post #9394 of 9713
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Originally Posted by spawnofwar1600 View Post

Thanks for the replys peeps!
Im leaning towards the gt50 too but one concern is lack of the 96hz option, im a big 24p buff, there have been complaints about flicker @ 48hz.

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Originally Posted by Latinoheat View Post

What do you think 96hz option will do? I have never witness flicker on my GT50.

Indeed.

I've heard all the whinging of 48 Hz. flicker here and have tried to see it with 24 FPS film-based content, but cannot.

48 Hz. content produce very stable images on my GT50.
post #9395 of 9713
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Originally Posted by spawnofwar1600 View Post

Thanks for the replys peeps!
Im leaning towards the gt50 too but one concern is lack of the 96hz option, im a big 24p buff, there have been complaints about flicker @ 48hz.

Yes, running standard film based movie transfers in the 48 Hz optional rate will create flicker that I personally find unwatchable. As others are indicating (but not specifying why) the GT's native 60 Hz mode looks fine. If you are a very critical viewer you probably will be able to find flaws in the pulldown transfer from 24 fps content to the native 30 fps multiplied display rate that you would not get with with a "pure" 4x 24 = 96 Hz set-up.

That being said, I find the PQ from 24 fps content on my 60 GT50 to be so good that I can simply watch a movie and become so immersed in it that I rarely find myself distracted with video artifacts. I tried out an LG set prior to the GT50 and all I could see was artifacts, defects, and shortcomings of LED displays. I couldn't see the movie; all I could see was flaws in the display.

I have not seen a side-by-side between a 60 Hz model and and 96 Hz unit on film based 24 fps content so I can't tell you if the difference is significant or unnoticeable. All I can say is that the 48 Hz mode on the GT50 is pretty much unusable for standard content but the 60 Hz mode looks very nice. Some folks have indicated that the 48 Hz mode is OK for 3D content but I still find the flicker unbearable.
post #9396 of 9713
Does anyone have an idea on why I have so much 'noise' on one of my HDMI inputs but none of the others, even with nothing plugged in?
Here's a picture of it
http://i.imgur.com/BqakOEk.jpg

Those RGB dots are all over the screen like static. Although I cant see the individual dots at distance, It still definitely makes the blacks look more gray than black.

Here are 2 other pictures I took during the day, showing the noisy input comared to a non-noisy one.
http://i.imgur.com/9uwMRt2.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/DJ1jffg.jpg
post #9397 of 9713
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Originally Posted by tpollagi View Post

Yes, running standard film based movie transfers in the 48 Hz optional rate will create flicker that I personally find unwatchable. As others are indicating (but not specifying why) the GT's native 60 Hz mode looks fine. If you are a very critical viewer you probably will be able to find flaws in the pulldown transfer from 24 fps content to the native 30 fps multiplied display rate that you would not get with with a "pure" 4x 24 = 96 Hz set-up.

That being said, I find the PQ from 24 fps content on my 60 GT50 to be so good that I can simply watch a movie and become so immersed in it that I rarely find myself distracted with video artifacts. I tried out an LG set prior to the GT50 and all I could see was artifacts, defects, and shortcomings of LED displays. I couldn't see the movie; all I could see was flaws in the display.

I have not seen a side-by-side between a 60 Hz model and and 96 Hz unit on film based 24 fps content so I can't tell you if the difference is significant or unnoticeable. All I can say is that the 48 Hz mode on the GT50 is pretty much unusable for standard content but the 60 Hz mode looks very nice. Some folks have indicated that the 48 Hz mode is OK for 3D content but I still find the flicker unbearable.

You learn something new each day... I thought I understood the relationship between 24 frames per second and screen refresh rate, but clearly not. When I was searching for a plasma last year I had no idea I should have been looking for a panel with 72hz refresh rate! lol

I always understood that plasma display technology was inherently better at displaying fast motion images vs. LCD or LED. I guess the 600hz stat most plasma's like Panasonic advertise isn't the same as a 120hz or 240hz refresh rate of an LCD or LED. You don't ever hear a plasma manufacturer advertising (as a key feature) that their panels are 60hz or 72hz or 96hz refresh rate, do you? The panasonic's for their part always preached their 600hz sub field drive or whatever, vs the lower 60, 120, or 240hz of LCD/LED. Way to confuse.

Reminds me of when my father called me up a couple years ago after buying his fancy new Samsung 800 series (I think) 120hz LCD and said, "Hey son, the salesman told me this was a 120hz model but when I'm watching TV (via digital cable) it only says '60hz' under the channel number. Shouldn't it be 120hz?" :P

So just to throw it out there: which of my two tv's is displaying 24fps BD content better: my 120hz XBR4 Sony or my 60hz GT50???

Are there any tricks or settings that can be tweaked to reduce flicker on the GT50 when playing 24p BD's @ 48hz? (on either the GT50 menu or the BD player menu?)

IF my GT50 does/can not properly display 24p content then why wouldn't everybody turn 24p output OFF from the BD player settings? (right?)
post #9398 of 9713
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Originally Posted by swargolet View Post

Does anyone have an idea on why I have so much 'noise' on one of my HDMI inputs but none of the others, even with nothing plugged in?
Here's a picture of it
http://i.imgur.com/BqakOEk.jpg

Those RGB dots are all over the screen like static. Although I cant see the individual dots at distance, It still definitely makes the blacks look more gray than black.

Here are 2 other pictures I took during the day, showing the noisy input comared to a non-noisy one.
http://i.imgur.com/9uwMRt2.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/DJ1jffg.jpg

Can you see that noise when viewing regular content?
post #9399 of 9713
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Originally Posted by Latinoheat View Post

Can you see that noise when viewing regular content?

Only with darker scenes, but it is more of a grayish color overall instead of being able to see the individual pixels. I'd say 90% of my viewing I don't see it as there is usually something bright on the screen that causes my eyes to adjust and not see the 'noise' but sometimes whole movies or TV shows will have a darker feel to it and that noise gets pretty annoying, especially if there are top/bottom bars.
post #9400 of 9713
I have a 50GT50. Have had no problems at all except one HDMI input did not work. Authorized techs wanted to take it to the shop to fix it. I was afraid they would mess things up and declined to have them take it away. My other three HDMI inputs work fine and I am only using two. The latest models now only have three.

If you can live with three HDMI inputs and your TV has no other problems I would ignore it.
post #9401 of 9713
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Originally Posted by tom1996 View Post

I have a 50GT50. Have had no problems at all except one HDMI input did not work. Authorized techs wanted to take it to the shop to fix it. I was afraid they would mess things up and declined to have them take it away. My other three HDMI inputs work fine and I am only using two. The latest models now only have three.

If you can live with three HDMI inputs and your TV has no other problems I would ignore it.

Agreed, if he needs more inputs he could simply buy an HDMI switcher or a newer AVR. Most new AVR's come with six HDMI inputs. So you would only need one HDMI input on the tv used.
post #9402 of 9713
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Originally Posted by spawnofwar1600 View Post

need an opinion
If you had a choice between a 60 " gt50 and 55 " vt60 which one would you go for?
ill be sitting about 14 feet away from the tv, most viewing would be in dim or dark in the basement....
Cheers!

I actually owned the vt60 60", and got rid of it, for a GT50 55". I am much happier with the GT50.. The viewing distance was exactly 14'. The 60" was perfect from the distance.. I feel the 65" would be overkill at that viewing distance.. The 55" also works at that distance, but the 60" is best..
post #9403 of 9713
I haven't been able to access Netflix on my GT50 for the past 2 weeks. It keeps locking up on the load screen. Anybody else experiencing the same?
post #9404 of 9713
Yes actually, at least that's what the lady says. I haven't played around with it yet, will let you know if/when I find a solution.
post #9405 of 9713
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Originally Posted by GiantSquid View Post

I haven't been able to access Netflix on my GT50 for the past 2 weeks. It keeps locking up on the load screen. Anybody else experiencing the same?

I just tried mine and the first two attempts it locked up just after the red load screen (froze on the Profile selector window). I exited and tried again, on the third attempt it loaded fine but the whole UI was unusually slow/choppy. Even though it worked eventually, it feels like something's wrong with it. Hope it gets fixed soon.
post #9406 of 9713
What? Profile selector screen? My GT50's Netflix app is from March of 2011. I guess the Canadian models don't get the Netflix app updates. Sucks.
post #9407 of 9713
I have had my GT for quite some time now, and am very happy. No ghosting or buzzing issues, but I do have an issue.

I have a Harmon Kardon AV receiver that has an ARC HDMI port which I have connected to my HDMI 1 port on the panny which is supposed to be ARC. I get audio and video just fine for TV, but when I go to internet apps on the panny I get no sound, but still get my TV sound.

Now I have Uverse connected to the AV HDMI for my TV, and this may be my issue. Should my Uverse be connected to the panny directly?

I feel like an idiot here, but have been fighting this for ages, searched the forum and net, but still have not figured this out.
post #9408 of 9713
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Originally Posted by dwillmore View Post

I have had my GT for quite some time now, and am very happy. No ghosting or buzzing issues, but I do have an issue.

I have a Harmon Kardon AV receiver that has an ARC HDMI port which I have connected to my HDMI 1 port on the panny which is supposed to be ARC. I get audio and video just fine for TV, but when I go to internet apps on the panny I get no sound, but still get my TV sound.

Now I have Uverse connected to the AV HDMI for my TV, and this may be my issue. Should my Uverse be connected to the panny directly?

I feel like an idiot here, but have been fighting this for ages, searched the forum and net, but still have not figured this out.

ARC is hdmi 2
post #9409 of 9713
Also go to settings - viera link settings - default speakers - enable Theater.

Also enable ARC in your receiver.
post #9410 of 9713
I had a second service call today to try to address the buzzing issue with my 60GT50. The same authorized repair Tech came out and we took the panel off the wall then set it on the stand facing backwards. The Tech took the rear cover off and I put on a DVD-A with a mostly white background. The buzzing was clearly audible from the power supply board and the SS board. The Tech called Panasonic and they recommended removing the SS board and cleaning the contacts. Once that was done we powered up the panel and the buzzing is the same.

The Tech called Panasonic back and they said with the TV speakers playing at volume level 15 if the buzz can be heard they will go from there. Well I told the Tech that there is no way the buzz will be heard under those conditions as one can only hear it when the audio is low or a pause in audio with a bright image on the screen. The Tech mentioned several times that the level of the buzzing with my panel was "normal" with plasmas. I respectfully disagreed with him and mentioned that I owned two other Panasonic plasmas and they did not buzz as the 60GT50 does.

So it looks like my only option is to contact Best Buy to see what they might do. I went with the local authorized Panasonic service center as I thought they would be better equipped to repair the panel. But now in hindsight I should have contacted Best Buy as they might have replaced the panel. But I was past my 45 day return period when the buzzing became clearly audible. If Best Buy will not do anything then I guess I'm stuck with a "buzzer". Oh well if this is the biggest problem I have to deal with then I'm doing just fine smile.gif.

Bill
post #9411 of 9713
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Originally Posted by dwillmore View Post

I have had my GT for quite some time now, and am very happy. No ghosting or buzzing issues, but I do have an issue.

I have a Harmon Kardon AV receiver that has an ARC HDMI port which I have connected to my HDMI 1 port on the panny which is supposed to be ARC. I get audio and video just fine for TV, but when I go to internet apps on the panny I get no sound, but still get my TV sound.

Now I have Uverse connected to the AV HDMI for my TV, and this may be my issue. Should my Uverse be connected to the panny directly?

I feel like an idiot here, but have been fighting this for ages, searched the forum and net, but still have not figured this out.
ARC is HDMI2 as previously stated. I've never been able to get it to work properly either and all the settings in my AVR and GT are correct. Just run an optical cable back to your AVR.
post #9412 of 9713
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Originally Posted by Ryan25 View Post

ARC is HDMI2 as previously stated. I've never been able to get it to work properly either and all the settings in my AVR and GT are correct. Just run an optical cable back to your AVR.

I think ARC is ALWAYS on in the GT50. I know I have to turn ARC ON in my Blu-ray player for it to work because the Blu-ray player expects it to be an OUTPUT, not an INPUT. Works great for me.
post #9413 of 9713
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Originally Posted by Mongo171 View Post

I think ARC is ALWAYS on in the GT50. I know I have to turn ARC ON in my Blu-ray player for it to work because the Blu-ray player expects it to be an OUTPUT, not an INPUT. Works great for me.
Yes. ARC is always on in the Panasonic tv.
post #9414 of 9713
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Originally Posted by dwillmore View Post

I have had my GT for quite some time now, and am very happy. No ghosting or buzzing issues, but I do have an issue.

I have a Harmon Kardon AV receiver that has an ARC HDMI port which I have connected to my HDMI 1 port on the panny which is supposed to be ARC. I get audio and video just fine for TV, but when I go to internet apps on the panny I get no sound, but still get my TV sound.

Now I have Uverse connected to the AV HDMI for my TV, and this may be my issue. Should my Uverse be connected to the panny directly?

I feel like an idiot here, but have been fighting this for ages, searched the forum and net, but still have not figured this out.
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Originally Posted by sheshechic View Post

ARC is hdmi 2
LOL You think that might be part of the problem?
post #9415 of 9713
Thanks all.
post #9416 of 9713
Moonpie says "I have the OPPO 103 and couldn't be happier with that".
I second his opinion. In my bedroom setup, a FIOS hdrecorder connects directly to the OPPO and the superior video processing of the OPPO converts the tvsignal to 1080P into a fantastic 50GT50.(no buzzing or ir after 3000 hours) With the superior FIOS tv signal, I don't find the GT50 soft at all.
If I want to watch a soft picture I go to the living room where a calibrated Hitatchi rear projection resides in my HT system.
If you use a soundbar, you can hook the Oppo directly to it and bypass the tv- a huge audio advantage. Also, the known sync lag issue of audio behind the video is gone from this setup with the latest Oppo firmware release.
I want to thank HD-Master for giving his settings to this forum. My picture with his settings and my setup is so good I wouldn't let a BB calibrator inside my house.
post #9417 of 9713
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Originally Posted by AudiophileWalt View Post

Moonpie says "I have the OPPO 103 and couldn't be happier with that".
I second his opinion. In my bedroom setup, a FIOS hdrecorder connects directly to the OPPO and the superior video processing of the OPPO converts the tvsignal to 1080P into a fantastic 50GT50.(no buzzing or ir after 3000 hours) With the superior FIOS tv signal, I don't find the GT50 soft at all.
If I want to watch a soft picture I go to the living room where a calibrated Hitatchi rear projection resides in my HT system.
If you use a soundbar, you can hook the Oppo directly to it and bypass the tv- a huge audio advantage. Also, the known sync lag issue of audio behind the video is gone from this setup with the latest Oppo firmware release.
I want to thank HD-Master for giving his settings to this forum. My picture with his settings and my setup is so good I wouldn't let a BB calibrator inside my house.

You mean you have the GT50 in your bedroom and not in your living room? eek.gif What a waste...tongue.gif
post #9418 of 9713
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Originally Posted by tpollagi View Post

I have 1.17 on my GT50 and YouTube runs fine. I would check your router for a firmware update then reset it even if the firmware is current. Then I would reset the internet connection on the TV so it is forced to make a fresh connection with your updated router. I don't think the problem is the app or any system update on the TV.

As far as the Panasonic engineers fixing something in 48 hrs, well I think that's just a scripted response that can be translated to "please just go away".

I also have an ST50. I'll try it later and make sure YouTube is running OK there also.


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I just spent a little more time with YouTube. There does appear to be a very brief period at the beginning of some (but no all) videos in which the audio does not start as quickly as the video. Is this what you are having problems with ? The "rewind" button is kinda useless also but I have no idea if that ever worked.

I have 5 bars in the Network status. Software update is the latest version1.170. Streaming YouTube HD content and I get consistent buffering in the video. I've tried connecting via ethernet and same issue. I don't remember having this issue a few weeks ago. We stream music videos during the day and this constant pausing of the video is annoying. I've tried some of the download/upload websites and right now I have a max download speed of 3.78 Mb/s. I use the same network speed site on my laptop 6' away from my computer and I'm getting 11.2 Mb/s. This buffering of videos only happens using YouTube. Netflix is fine, same with any other Viera App.

Any suggestions?
post #9419 of 9713
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Originally Posted by GiantSquid View Post

I haven't been able to access Netflix on my GT50 for the past 2 weeks. It keeps locking up on the load screen. Anybody else experiencing the same?

I contacted Netflix and they gave me some code to unlink my account. I then had to sign back up to Netflix on my GT50. Actually had to do this 3 times before it actually worked. I believe the code on the remote (while in Netflix) is up,up, down, down, left, right, left, right. If this isn't right, call Netflix and they'll walk you through it.
post #9420 of 9713
Family is going to watch Iron Man in 3D on our 60" GT50 Friday night. Its going to be my 5th 3D movie, the others being Creature From The Black Lagoon, Thor, Top Gun and Oz The Great And Powerful. I have Star Trek: Into Darkness 3D but haven't had a chance to watch it yet in 3D. What has been your favorite 3D movie on the GT50 so far?
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