or Connect
AVS › AVS Forum › Display Devices › Plasma Flat Panel Displays › Official Panasonic GT50 Series Discussion Thread [No Street Price Talk]
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Official Panasonic GT50 Series Discussion Thread [No Street Price Talk] - Page 320

post #9571 of 9714
Quote:
Originally Posted by fpileggi View Post

No soundbar is going to give you that true immersion of DTS or DD. It's just glorified front speakers...
Quote:
Originally Posted by DJones410 View Post

About $1000-1200.

Yeah, soundbars are nice but if you really want immersive they are hit-or-miss. Sometimes my old YSP could really throw surround but mostly it couldn't.

But for 1200 clams you could get a Playbar, and 2 Play1 for rears. That would be fairly immersive and no wires. Or, instead of the Play1s, you could get the Sonos Sub. Depends on how much boom you want eek.gif Personally, boom is really hard to make sound good without a lot of work so I'd go Play1s.

There's a guy on the Sonos thread going through that decision process.
post #9572 of 9714
Quote:
Originally Posted by artur9 View Post

Doesn't the GT50 allow bluetooth connections for audio? If it does that might be a better bet than a soundbar with all its limitations.

Quote:
Originally Posted by sheshechic View Post

Not complete bluetooth functionality - I believe that it's for head phones only.

Bluetooth audio on the GT50 works perfectly with Bluetooth audio receivers. These are tiny little boxes a few inches in size with an analog audio jack to connect to a set of amplified speakers as I suggested above (or a full size audio system if you want). You can also just use a set of Bluetooth speakers but I have never seen a pair that can keep pace with a good set of 2.1 PC speakers.

Before my GT50, I ran a set of Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 THX computer speakers as the primary sound from a Samsung LCD. I originally was going for a sound bar but couldn't find anything that came close in sound quality. Best Buy used to put these on sale for $80. PC speaker kits can be extremely versatile for many different purposes.
post #9573 of 9714
Quote:
Originally Posted by sheshechic View Post

Not complete bluetooth functionality - I believe that it's for head phones only.
Quote:
Originally Posted by tpollagi View Post

Bluetooth audio on the GT50 works perfectly with Bluetooth audio receivers. These are tiny little boxes a few inches in size with an analog audio jack to connect to a set of amplified speakers as I suggested above (or a full size audio system if you want). You can also just use a set of Bluetooth speakers but I have never seen a pair that can keep pace with a good set of 2.1 PC speakers.

Before my GT50, I ran a set of Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 THX computer speakers as the primary sound from a Samsung LCD. I originally was going for a sound bar but couldn't find anything that came close in sound quality. Best Buy used to put these on sale for $80. PC speaker kits can be extremely versatile for many different purposes.

I meant to say glasses and not headphones. I stand corrected. Since I don't have much use for bluetooth, I must have parked the wrong information. I'll be sure to make the necessary corrections to my mental data file. wink.gif Thanks.
post #9574 of 9714
Don't forget how much BT compresses audio. If you've got $1.2K to drop, I would seriously consider a $200-300 stereo amp with a sub pre-out and put the rest into a sub and a pair of towers. Better yet, buy a midrange AVR and scrounge a pair of solid old school loudspeakers. It works wonders for me, for movies, games and music.
post #9575 of 9714
Denon AVR-1713 @ $350
Pioneer Andrew Jones FS52 @ $108 ea
Pioneer Andrew Jones CS-C22 @ $97
Total $663 on Amazon Still room to get the Denon AVR X-100 and a subwoofer

Heck the Take Classic 5.1 is only $400

Run the wires above the baseboard and buy those paintable plastic channels to cover them up.
post #9576 of 9714
I'm considering picking up one of these used, almost entirely for gaming. What does the game mode disable? All the pro settings like gamma, white balance, etc?

On the st30 I have now, the game preset disables a ton of stuff, as far as I can tell, forces on a bunch of nonsense like black extender and AGC. If that's still the case on the GT50, it's off my list.
post #9577 of 9714
Quote:
Originally Posted by bd2003 View Post

I'm considering picking up one of these used, almost entirely for gaming. What does the game mode disable? All the pro settings like gamma, white balance, etc?

On the st30 I have now, the game preset disables a ton of stuff, as far as I can tell, forces on a bunch of nonsense like black extender and AGC. If that's still the case on the GT50, it's off my list.
I'm not sure why you'd use game mode anyway. It won't have any meaningful impact on input lag to use a different picture mode.
post #9578 of 9714
Quote:
Originally Posted by HD-Master View Post

I'm not sure why you'd use game mode anyway. It won't have any meaningful impact on input lag to use a different picture mode.

From what I've read it's about a 10ms difference, that's meaningful enough to me when it's already mediocre to begin with.
post #9579 of 9714
Quote:
Originally Posted by bd2003 View Post

From what I've read it's about a 10ms difference, that's meaningful enough to me when it's already mediocre to begin with.

If it's so mediocre than why not just keep gaming on your ST30 and save yourself money.
post #9580 of 9714
I only play games in game mode. The panels black level really makes it hard to distinguish a lot of things in many games.
post #9581 of 9714
Gamers make me feel old. smile.gif
post #9582 of 9714
Hi everyone my parents have the 50" GT50. My mom cannot hear dialog in movies very well. I toyed with the settings with little success. I did get her a sound bar but I have to make things really simple for her. Turning on multiple items and so forth just confuses her lol, and I am sorry those programmable and all-in-one remotes confuse her even more.. So here is the problem, Panasonic has limited options with sound bars. I ended up getting the SC-HTB170 sound bar with built in subwoofer. It is small but does better at having clearer voice. Problem is a lot of low and mid range drops out. It is currently hooked up use HDMI w/ARC and it turns on and off pretty well - nice and seamless for momma. The problem is when in use the TV speakers turn off. It sure would be nice to run both the TV speakers and soundbar simultaneously. I realize there would be volume issues.

Here's a question, can the TV speakers be on when the sound bar is hooked up to the optical output and not HDMI ARC? I know this would require two signals to adjust volume but I am still curious to know if it would work.

thanks
post #9583 of 9714
I could be wrong, but the GT50 is pretty explicit with regards to audio output. I don't think it's possible...
post #9584 of 9714
Quote:
Originally Posted by HD-Master View Post

Gamers make me feel old. smile.gif
Thanks, that makes me feel young. I started gaming on Comm 64s and Atari 2600s, that makes ME feel old!
post #9585 of 9714
Quote:
Originally Posted by jnmunsey View Post

Hi everyone my parents have the 50" GT50. My mom cannot hear dialog in movies very well. I toyed with the settings with little success. I did get her a sound bar but I have to make things really simple for her. Turning on multiple items and so forth just confuses her lol, and I am sorry those programmable and all-in-one remotes confuse her even more.. So here is the problem, Panasonic has limited options with sound bars. I ended up getting the SC-HTB170 sound bar with built in subwoofer. It is small but does better at having clearer voice. Problem is a lot of low and mid range drops out. It is currently hooked up use HDMI w/ARC and it turns on and off pretty well - nice and seamless for momma. The problem is when in use the TV speakers turn off. It sure would be nice to run both the TV speakers and soundbar simultaneously. I realize there would be volume issues.

Here's a question, can the TV speakers be on when the sound bar is hooked up to the optical output and not HDMI ARC? I know this would require two signals to adjust volume but I am still curious to know if it would work.

thanks

You wouldn't want both running simultaneously, you would have echo audio problems. Best is just turn up the soundbar.
post #9586 of 9714
Quote:
Originally Posted by jnmunsey View Post

Hi everyone my parents have the 50" GT50. My mom cannot hear dialog in movies very well. I toyed with the settings with little success. I did get her a sound bar but I have to make things really simple for her. Turning on multiple items and so forth just confuses her lol, and I am sorry those programmable and all-in-one remotes confuse her even more.. So here is the problem, Panasonic has limited options with sound bars. I ended up getting the SC-HTB170 sound bar with built in subwoofer. It is small but does better at having clearer voice. Problem is a lot of low and mid range drops out. It is currently hooked up use HDMI w/ARC and it turns on and off pretty well - nice and seamless for momma. The problem is when in use the TV speakers turn off. It sure would be nice to run both the TV speakers and soundbar simultaneously. I realize there would be volume issues.

Here's a question, can the TV speakers be on when the sound bar is hooked up to the optical output and not HDMI ARC? I know this would require two signals to adjust volume but I am still curious to know if it would work.

thanks
Yes it will work. No echos.
post #9587 of 9714
Quote:
Originally Posted by Latinoheat View Post

If it's so mediocre than why not just keep gaming on your ST30 and save yourself money.

Because I need a new TV in another room, I was thinking of taking the opportunity of moving the st30 to that room and upgrading my gaming display.
post #9588 of 9714
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryan25 View Post

I only play games in game mode. The panels black level really makes it hard to distinguish a lot of things in many games.

Can you tell me what the game mode disables? If you changed the basic settings to match custom with everything else in pro settings at defaults, would it look *exactly* the same? On the ST30, it's impossible.
post #9589 of 9714
I couldn't tell you, I just like the result.
post #9590 of 9714

I didn't even think of checking the netflix site, either. But this worked for me! Thank you!!!! I was going out of my mind because I NEED to watch tv now while I paint :-)

 

Thanks!!!!!!

post #9591 of 9714
Alright, I know a few people have used my settings and have enjoyed them. I always offered them to be helpful without expecting anything in return...but now I need some help with something. If anyone is willing to help, please send me a private message. I'll provide more information through those messages.
post #9592 of 9714
Quote:
Originally Posted by johnr45 View Post

Yes it will work. No echos.

So you've tried it and may I ask why?
post #9593 of 9714
Quote:
Originally Posted by jnmunsey View Post

...
Here's a question, can the TV speakers be on when the sound bar is hooked up to the optical output ...
thanks

Yes, the speakers and optical can work at the same time. "Problem" with the optical out is that it is a fixed-level output. Adjusting the TV's volume has no effect on the level of the optical output. The optical needs to be connected to an amplified device with its own volume control like a receiver. If the sound bar has its own remote with a volume control you would be OK except that you now need 2 remotes for basic functionality.

As for echo, no its not a problem. I have an AV receiver tied to the optical out. For "simple" TV i usually use the built in speakers but for some TV content I turn on the receiver to get the better sound and 5.1 surround. When I initially turn on the receiver, both the receiver and the built-ins are on until I mute the built ins. This could be very different though if you had a receiver that that introduced excessive delay.
post #9594 of 9714
Quote:
Originally Posted by Latinoheat View Post

So you've tried it and may I ask why?
I have a Sony receiver hooked to in wall speakers fed by the optical out. I use it for regular TV and streaming. I find that the TV speakers don"t work well with streaming. When my wife uses the TV she uses the TV speakers. Sometimes I have to tern the internal speakers down when I watch something, both are running at the same time, but all I notice is a decrease in volume, no echo. jnmunsey just wanted to know if it would work so in my experience yes. I never find a need to run both sets of speakers together.
Edited by johnr45 - 1/10/14 at 1:37am
post #9595 of 9714
Quote:
Originally Posted by johnr45 View Post

I have a Sony receiver hooked to in wall speakers fed by the optical out. I use it for regular TV and streaming. I find that the TV speakers don"t work well with streaming. When my wife uses the TV she uses the TV speakers. Sometimes I have to tern the internal speakers down when watch something, both are running at the same time, but all I notice is a decrease in volume, no echo. jnmunsey just wanted to know if it would work so in my experience yes. I never find a need to run both sets of speakers together.


That's what I understood that you were running both sets of speakers at the same time. I couldn't understand why anybody would want to do that. Now I understand how you use it.
post #9596 of 9714
Quote:
Originally Posted by HD-Master View Post

Gamers make me feel old. smile.gif

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryan25 View Post

Thanks, that makes me feel young. I started gaming on Comm 64s and Atari 2600s, that makes ME feel old!

I'm in with you both! When I started gaming it was on a mainframe on a green screen display....it was Star Trek and it was with X's & O's. :-)
post #9597 of 9714
Quote:
Originally Posted by MacNThorens View Post


I'm in with you both! When I started gaming it was on a mainframe on a green screen display....it was Star Trek and it was with X's & O's. :-)

The first test bench I worked on in the Navy had that Star Trek game on it.
post #9598 of 9714
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mongo171 View Post

The first test bench I worked on in the Navy had that Star Trek game on it.

Nothing beats VTTrek on a Tops20 system smile.gif
post #9599 of 9714
Quote:
Originally Posted by artur9 View Post

Nothing beats VTTrek on a Tops20 system smile.gif

Doesn't sound familiar. Of course, I trained and worked on the bench in the mid to late 80's. The test bench was designed for the B-52.

Once on shore, I used a 286-8.
post #9600 of 9714
Hi all ....

Love my 60GT50.. I'm using Cnet settings on Custom Mode.

Are there any other settings past the regular settings? I have a VT60 as well, and I use the professional settings on the VT..


Are there a hidden settings that I don't know about?
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Plasma Flat Panel Displays
AVS › AVS Forum › Display Devices › Plasma Flat Panel Displays › Official Panasonic GT50 Series Discussion Thread [No Street Price Talk]