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post #481 of 850
Firmware update 1025 is out.
post #482 of 850
Any reports as to what it does?
post #483 of 850
If you go to the firmware download section and click on the + icon it will show you the details, IMO it would be better if they had a 'details' icon instead.

AFAIK only the first point is really new...

This firmware update will improve the following:

- Resolves picture shaking and line noise on 1080p source.

- Supports Yahoo SyncPlus app..

- Resolves escaping issue while watching movie on VUDU.

- Resolves issue Cinemanow does not play certain title.

- Resolves compatibility issue with DLNA devices.

- Improves picture quality.

- Supports Samsung wireless Audio Dock

- Solves the problem closed caption does not show.
post #484 of 850
Yeah that first one interests me...I'm curious if that's related the large amount of shuddering I notice with auto focus turned off. It's fine having that judder on when you're watching live action, as we're pretty accustomed to it, but when I'm watching anything animated and something slowly pans across the screen it looks like they're having a seisure...though not all the time. Baffling...wish there was a way to just turn it on or off with one button press as it's annoying to have to switch from having that On to Off depending on what you're watching :P
post #485 of 850
Hello,
I'm using the settings that jpc77 posted for ps3 and the tv, but must have missed something. I just watched dark knight rises and the picture was constantly adjusting from full screen to having black bars on top and bottom of image, depending on the scene. Does anyone know what setting I have to change to fix this?
Thanks in advance
post #486 of 850
Sloppy705-- that is simply the movie itself. The full screen is everything that was shot in IMAX whereas your letterbox is not. The Dark Knight was the same way. The ratios are accurate and there is nothing you could (or should) do to change them. The PS3 settings to answer your question have nothing to do with it. I hope the PQ was otherwise to your satisfaction. smile.gif
post #487 of 850
Jpc77, the PQ is great!! Just got this tv and I am extremely happy with it. It was a little distracting when the tv would switch from full screen to having black bars on the top and bottom; but if that's the way it was filmed, nothing we can do about that!! Thanks for all your help, much appreciated. Now I just have to buy the goldenear triton 2's with an anthem mrx-500 and I'll be set! Thanks again.
post #488 of 850
I set my Movie mode to the settings that LCDTVBUYINGGUIDE specified when the reviewer gave it such high marks. Looks great in a dark room, but rather washed out. So I used Standard and set it to match as closely as I could w/o the 10pt white balance option. Then tweaked a tiny bit to taste.

I noticed that in order to adjust HDMI BLACK LEVEL i had to output RGB, not YCbCr (4:2:2 or 4:4:4) which most everyone claims is better for a BD player's output. On a hunch that feeding the tv RGB gives it less to do, converting and such, I've gone back to the Panasonic BDT215's rgb out. Deep color is AUTO, which Panasonic recommended. Black level control is "Darker." I widh I knew WTF Panasonic means with these settings; the manual ssys nothing useful.

My Standard is a little brighter than Movie, to complement a well lit room.

BACKLIGHT 13
CONTRAST 95
BRIGHTNESS 43
SHARPNESS 10
COLOR 35
TINT G50/R50
DYNAMIC CONTRAST OFF
BLACK TONE OFF or DARKER
FLESH TONE 0
COLOR SPACE AUTO
WHITE BALANCE 25-25-28-18-23-21
GAMMA +1
MOTION LIGHTING OFF
COLOR TONE WARM2
DIGITAL NOISE FILTER, MPEG NOISE FILTER OFF
HDMI BLACK LEVEL LOW
AUTO MOTION PLUS, LED MOTION PLUS OFF

Whether I use Movie or Standard really depends on the movie, and room lighting.

BDs I've "tested" settings with:
FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE
BULLITT
RATATOUILLE
BATMAN BEGINS
CASABLANCA

// Sent from a mobile. Misspellings happen. //
post #489 of 850
Updated to the newest firmware. I did notice an improvement with overall picture quality. I hope they continue to improve on it.
Things that i noticed was sharper image, better motion, better color.

Anyone use the SyncPlus app?
post #490 of 850
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Originally Posted by Hectorcaliente View Post

Updated to the newest firmware. I did notice an improvement with overall picture quality. I hope they continue to improve on it.
Things that i noticed was sharper image, better motion, better color.
Anyone use the SyncPlus app?
What does syncplus do?

Sadly luma and chroma zone plates still show bad noise/pixelation with v25.
post #491 of 850
I have problems with the YouTube app and the web browser. First, when I watch videos through the YouTube app, it always "crashes" after a few minutes or so. The video stops, and after a while the screen returns to the YouTube menu, as if it has reached the end of the video (when clearly it has not). So, as a workaround, I simply tried to run YouTube through the web browser by going to youtube.com and loading a video from there. However, after a few minutes of watching the video, the screen goes black, and then the web browser reports that it has stopped running because of the lack of sufficient memory, and it asks if I want to re-load the page.

I know that the TV is not a computer, and that it cannot run its web browser like a PC, but I would think that this memory fault is a bug that could be fixed - probably related to filling the buffers as it loads the video. Are these two issues common problems?
post #492 of 850
Never bothered to run youtube through the browser but sadly my experience with the youtube app has been just-as-****** as yours. Sadly it doesn't seem like samsung gives a damn, the app hasn't been updated in months.
post #493 of 850
Hi, picked up a Samsung un55es6150f about a month ago and simply not sure how to get this to a point where I am not convincing myself that the picture looks acceptable.

My inputs include a DirecTV HD DVR and an Apple TV 3.

Just got some HDMI cords and was hoping that would have fixed the DirecTV feed, but it didn't.

I followed these settings http://reviews.lcdtvbuyingguide.com/samsung-lcd-tv/samsung-es6100-picturesettings.html and now at the very least it doesn't look like a stark soap opera regardless of channel.

The downside is the colors are muted with these settings.

Furthermore, just changing channels from say an HD to a SD station on directv, a show that I landed on (Everybody Loves Raymond) appeared blown up and looked horrible.

I'm guessing I have more issues with DirecTV's settings fighting Samsung's settings?

Any advice would be appreciated as it has been extremely frustrating trying to get this TV to perform well.

Thanks.
post #494 of 850
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Originally Posted by yankees2009 View Post


Any advice would be appreciated as it has been extremely frustrating trying to get this TV to perform well.

Thanks.

Try my settings for Standard then tweak to taste. What does DirectTv output, Rgb or YCbCr?


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post #495 of 850
Thanks.

Right now seeing if the "new" old box Directv sent is the issue. Freaking new hookup with a box from May 2009. They really have to be kidding....
post #496 of 850
Why did Samsung put this dimming feature in that can't be turned off, except according to others if you are in the MOVIE mode? My friend just got this TV, and I helped him calibrate it in STANDARD mode. Picture looked great until you went to a movie with darker scenes. Then it would all of the sudden change to very dark, and then abruptly lighten up, then darken. This is a terrible feature to not be able to turn off. Very distracting. I just don't understand why they would even put in a feature that is this annoying? I am going over tommorow to try the MOVIE mode, and hope this feature does not show up. I am surprised that more people are not complaining about it, unless they are all using the MOVIE mode for their viewing.

I assume that there is some kind of service menu where this could be disabled. Otherwise, this TV has a beautiful picture when properly calibrated.
post #497 of 850
vphoner = I think it is the Auto Motion Lighting setting that is causing your issue (I am going off memory @ the moment)....shut it off and it should eliminate your problem....also ensure the Eco Solution mode is set to Off also. Both of those cause screen darkness when there is certain lighting or movement present in whatever you are watching. I assure you your issue can be resolved thru one or both.
post #498 of 850
Thanks JPC77, I will be going over to my friend's to try this. But what is shut off in the MOVIE mode, that is not shutoff in the STANDARD mode. I heard people talking about this earlier. They said there is some sort of dimming feature that cannot be turned off in all modes, but is off in the MOVIE mode. Is this similar to what you were talking about with the Auto Motion Lighting?

Which menu is Auto Motion Lighting located in? I don't recall seeing it. The only setting that sounded similar was the LED Motion Plus, which I had turned off. And I already had the ECO turned off. And I had the Auto Motion Plus turned off. And Dynamic Contrast was off.

**update: Further research is telling me that the feature is called CE Dimming, and can be disabled in the service menu, and only disabled in the MOVIE mode.
Edited by vphoner - 12/18/12 at 10:09am
post #499 of 850
vphoner = it is either located in Picture Options or Advanced Settings and judging by your response, that will be the root of your issue. The presets within the set (each of the 4 modes that is to say) have various things locked, open, defaulted, etc that make them all the way they are. Standard & Movie are the only 2 you have enough access to modify which is why everyone uses those. I don't dispute Movie Mode being the most "true" picture to calibrate but as you and many others have mentioned, the color drain lack of some level of vibrancy takes much away from the picture regardless of how academically correct it may be. You can calibrate Standard and Movie identically and they are still going to look different based on whatever features Samsung put in place that aren't necessarily available to us to manipulate. It comes down to personal preference between the two but I was unsatisfied with Movie Mode at the end of the day and calibrated using Standard Mode as my base.
post #500 of 850
Has anyone else who owns this TV noticed that the colors appear a bit dull and gray, much like British TV? I'm wondering if I got a set that has a defect. Apart from the "Britishness" of the picture, I'm loving this TV. I've tried many of the calibration settings posted here with no success.

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1446596/my-new-samsung-makes-hdtv-and-movies-look-british
post #501 of 850
I did the same and screwed up my HDMI calibration, I tried this pattern http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/9644/checkerboardsamsung.jpg and it did good to my TV.
First time I tried, it did not work that was because I had this picture in fullscreen mode in my laptop's screen.
Then I tried extending my screen into my TV fully blown up. and tried the calibration again, and that was the trick. Hope this helps.

Regards.
post #502 of 850
(sorry for double-posting, I started a thread by accident)

Hi,

I've got he 6100 TV a week ago. While watching Pirates of the Caribbean: Curse of the Black Peal, I noticed some areas that looked to be brighter than others on dark scenes. I am using Movie Mode and I thought I had disabled all the Auto settings that I've read that could cause it. Any thoughts on what I could try?

Francisco
post #503 of 850
Also look at your device output. I had my Panasonic BDT215 on "RGB Enhanced," whatever that is, and the lcdtvbuyingguide calibration just didnt look right. Tried 4:2:2 and 4:4:4 (better) but returned to plain RGB and now have a better baseline. Yes their Movie settings are a little washed out or dim but that is easily fixed in the main Picture menu settings. Getting my Standard settings to match, then tweaking to taste, has been working for me so far. Note that in Standard you cant do the 10 pt white balance, but this doesn't seem too detrimental.

My BDT215 has an "Auto Deep Color" that doesn't seem to have any effect, anyone know if this is something the ES61x0 doesn't support, or need to.

I envy you folks with the 50, 55 inch models. My media cabinet only accommodates the 40", I should have junked it and gone large....

// Sent from my mobile. Misspellings happen. //
post #504 of 850
So I calibrated using LCDBUYINGGUIDE recommendations for movie mode but felt like most that it was to dark so I applied those settings to Standard mode and I feel they are much better. I have a Toshiba Bdx1100 Blu ray player is there anything I need to calibrate with that? Also I do have auto motion set to custom with blur reduction at 8 and judder reduction set to 3 and it has a little bit of soap opera effect but not to bad. My only complaint is when watching HD channels through Dish Network it seems that there are a lot of artifacts around people's faces especially from a far away shot. Do I need to have noise reduction filter on and mpeg filter on as well to fix this while watching TV on dish network? When watching Blu ray everything seems to be perfect besides the automatic dimmer when there is a dark scene.
post #505 of 850
Hey all,

Just received the UN40ES6100 today and am in the process of calibrating it using various settings found within this thread. However, the issue I'm seeing immediately is while black looks terrific, I'm noticing a white haze in the 4 corners of the screen. It's as though a weak white light is shining out diagonally from all 4 corners. This is the 1st LED HDTV I've owned so I'd just like to know if I should be worried or if it's something that'll go away eventually.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Happy holidays.
post #506 of 850
Just got my 40" ES6100, and while watching Dark Knight Rises last night off of DirecTV (1080/24p), I noticed a voice sync issue while listening to the audio coming out of my receiver. TV volume was turned down to 0.

I am using HDMI to TV from Sat box, and Optical to my receiver from Sat box. If I turned the volume up on the TV, there was an audible echo between the TV sound and the receiver audio.

Any ideas on what caused this, or how to resolve the problem?
Edited by Lean Mfg. - 12/25/12 at 7:21pm
post #507 of 850
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lean Mfg. View Post

Just got my 40" ES6100, and while watching Dark Knight Rises last night off of DirecTV (1080/24p), I noticed a voice sync issue while listening to the audio coming out of my receiver. TV volume was turned down to 0.
I am using HDMI to TV from Sat box, and Optical to my receiver from Sat box. If I turned the volume up on the TV, there was an audible echo between the TV sound and the receiver audio.
Any ideas on what caused this, or how to resolve the problem?

I too am interested in this. When I used the Disney WOW disc and checked the calibration on my audio (through a receiver as well-- TV volume disengaged), it showed a delay in being synced also. Fortunately it is not a large enough deficit that it suffers when watching movies or TV but I do notice it in some games. It has been frustrating not being able to calibrate this properly.
post #508 of 850
From what I have been reading on other forums, it appears that the HDMI audio signal trails the Optical audio. My Yamaha recevier is an older, non-HDMI, unit and leaves me with only optical/coax for digital sound. My receiver luckily has a delay setting which I discovered by going through the manual. The only drawback is when I utilize a non-HDMI souce (DVD Player, using Component) and then I have to reset the delay to 0. I guess its time for a new receiver.
post #509 of 850
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lean Mfg. View Post

From what I have been reading on other forums, it appears that the HDMI audio signal trails the Optical audio. My Yamaha recevier is an older, non-HDMI, unit and leaves me with only optical/coax for digital sound. My receiver luckily has a delay setting which I discovered by going through the manual. The only drawback is when I utilize a non-HDMI souce (DVD Player, using Component) and then I have to reset the delay to 0. I guess its time for a new receiver.

I have an older Pioneer model SX-217-K that does not have HDMI. My PS3 is using the optical though in checking the manual, I do not see a delay or sync setting of any kind. The funny thing is, I never noticed an issue until I used Disney WOW on this TV set, as I have had the receiver and PS3 for approx 4/yrs now. Thanks for the info in any event.
Edited by JPC77 - 12/27/12 at 6:10pm
post #510 of 850
Okay I know this might of been answered already but was best calibrations for playing video games through Xbox 360 using HDMI cable with this TV. Also I kind of like the whole soap opera effect while watching movies and TV. How do I keep the soap opera effect and get rid of the juddering and artifacts that seem to happen on the screen?
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