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post #91 of 148
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Originally Posted by Nuance View Post

Did I ever say he was? I didn't imply it either. My comment was based on your comment in which you placed emphasis on the quality of the drivers. While that is important, the crossover is more important, hence my original comment. I don't know how good Rick's work is; I was just saying it's all about the crossover.


It came across to me as the Salk speakers are worth more because the x-over is better. A lot of people on this forum have never heard of Selah, just wanted to clarify.
post #92 of 148
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Originally Posted by Jay1 View Post

It came across to me as the Salk speakers are worth more because the x-over is better. A lot of people on this forum have never heard of Selah, just wanted to clarify.

I gotcha. Sorry, that's not what I meant to imply. I assume the Salk ones cost more for reasons other than the crossover, but I don't know for sure.

I'm glad everything was clarified.
post #93 of 148
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Originally Posted by AcuDefTechGuy View Post

They are $2,000 per pair (2). Dennis can sell you a single (1) for $1,000 each. Would be awesome to have 5 identical towers with perfect timbre matching and everything.

Can you raise the screen about 2.5 inches higher?

The Phil2 are 41.5" tall.

Hmmm. Did some measurements. The frame is 39 inches and about 40.5 inches to the StudioTek screen. My PJ is about 7 feet off the floor, so I could probable put a 41.5 inch tall speaker 2-3 feet in front of the screen and have it just fit.

post #94 of 148
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Originally Posted by ack_bk View Post

Woah

What would you use with a center channel under the screen?

A curved array can be placed horizontally for under the screen applications (or behind the screen as well).
post #95 of 148
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Originally Posted by Nuance View Post

Is that a SoundScape M7 monitor clone?

I'm not sure how you can claim this is a clone when all three drivers are different from the Salk speaker.

The Tempesta actually is based on the same format that I started using back in 2005 with the RC3R, long before the M7 ever came out.
post #96 of 148
^ The RAAL and Accuton are different than what's in the SoundScape line, the M7 included? Both also use a 7" woofer. The sensitivity rating is the same, and the bass depth is about the same. Did the RC3R use a RAAL ribbon and Accuton midrange in 2005? By the way, I was asking not making a claim (notice the word "Is" and the question mark at the end of the sentence). I have no idea which was released first: The SoundScape line or the Tempesta...hence the question I posted.

From the Salk site:
(1) RAAL ribbon tweeter;
(1) Accuton midrange;
and,
(1) custom 7" long-throw woofer

From the Selah site:
The combination of a RAAL ribbon tweeter, Accuton dome mid, and Scan-Speak woofer is exceptional in detail and imaging.
post #97 of 148
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^ The RAAL and Accuton are different than what's in the SoundScape line, the M7 included? Both also use a 7" woofer. The sensitivity rating is the same, and the bass depth is about the same. Did the RC3R use a RAAL ribbon and Accuton midrange in 2005? By the way, I was asking not making a claim (notice the word "Is" and the question mark at the end of the sentence). I have no idea which was released first: The SoundScape line or the Tempesta...hence the question I posted.

That wasnt your original question though. Your Extreme-salk bias immediately concluded that the Selah's were a clone of the Salk Soundscape.
post #98 of 148
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Originally Posted by jeffc1 View Post

That wasnt your original question though. Your Extreme-salk bias immediately concluded that the Selah's were a clone of the Salk Soundscape.

Here is my "original question:"

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Originally Posted by Nuance View Post

Is that a SoundScape M7 monitor clone?

So yes, it was my "original question," and an honest one at that. I wanted to know if it was a clone of the SoundScape series speakers. Nothing wrong with using the same drivers, for what it's worth.

This is the second time today you've attempted to falsely accuse me of something. First of all you're wrong, and secondly I won't bother getting into an debate with you when it is clear you have an agenda here. 4 of your 11 posts have been attacks on me, so I think your agenda is clear. You're not worth the time.
post #99 of 148
selah is a fine speaker designer, one of the best in my opinion. He is always on the forefront of speaker technology such as line arrays, cbt. he's more popular on other forums.
post #100 of 148
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Originally Posted by datranz View Post

selah is a fine speaker designer, one of the best in my opinion. He is always on the forefront of speaker technology such as line arrays, cbt. he's more popular on other forums.

I agree.
post #101 of 148
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Originally Posted by Nuance View Post

I agree.

How do you think Selah does in comparison to Triad Gold LCR?
post #102 of 148
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How do you think Selah does in comparison to Triad Gold LCR?

I haven't heard the Triad Golds but they get high praise. I heard some of Selah's stuff at RMAF and enjoyed it, for what it's worth. For dedicated theater use I'd go Triad based on the specs; for music probably the Selah's. YMMV of course.
post #103 of 148
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Originally Posted by Nuance View Post

I haven't heard the Triad Golds but they get high praise. I heard some of Selah's stuff at RMAF and enjoyed it, for what it's worth. For dedicated theater use I'd go Triad based on the specs; for music probably the Selah's. YMMV of course.

I was looking at specs. The JTRs have pretty high sensitivity. I understand that makes them easier to drive but that should not be a problem with my amp.

The JTRs are 2 way? I wonder if the Triad Gold LCR, Adam Audio GTC 77, or Ascend Sierra Towers with RAAL tweeters would be a better, albeit more expensive, way to go.
post #104 of 148
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When it comes to driving speakers... Would anyone have reservations to driving 2 surround channels with a Pioneer SC-57 and the remaining 5 channels of a 7.1 setup with a Wyred 4 Sound amp?

Would it be better to just do 5.1, all from the W4Samp?
post #105 of 148
With the height constraint you have, you could take a look at Gallo Ref 3.x's for L & R mains -- they're a little over 3 feet tall. If you're willing to buy used there is a ton of flexibility here. In fact you could go with 3 3.1s across the front for about 3k, assuming you could find a single speaker used.

Alternatively, if you hook up with a good dealer you can find 3.5s for considerably less than their retail price (6k). You could go with two of them, a Strada for the CC (which is identical to the mid-tweeter configuration on the 3.5s) and a couple of Stradas for surrounds. You should be able to get that and a sub to augment the surrounds for < 8k. That's a kick ass system, especially with your PA.

The feature of the Gallos that makes them really good for HT applications is the 180 degree dispersion of the tweeters. What this means is you're not locked into a single seat sweet spot like you are with many speakers.
post #106 of 148
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Originally Posted by jtuttle View Post

When it comes to driving speakers... Would anyone have reservations to driving 2 surround channels with a Pioneer SC-57 and the remaining 5 channels of a 7.1 setup with a Wyred 4 Sound amp?

Would it be better to just do 5.1, all from the W4Samp?

I misread this initially and have edited my post. Driving two of the surround channels with the receiver will be just fine.
post #107 of 148
What Salk, Selah and co. do is bring a very high end experience to financial mortals. Add to that, they utilize the cusp of driver technology so if there is overlap it is likely because they are in agreement as to the best available tools.
post #108 of 148
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Originally Posted by jtuttle View Post

Hmmm. Did some measurements. The frame is 39 inches and about 40.5 inches to the StudioTek screen. My PJ is about 7 feet off the floor, so I could probable put a 41.5 inch tall speaker 2-3 feet in front of the screen and have it just fit.


Would be 100% awesome to have 5 identical world class speakers + dual subwoofers for both music and movies!

Whichever brand you end up buying, of course.

Perfect timbre match. Awesome sound.
post #109 of 148
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I may have to get 5 of the same speaker.
post #110 of 148
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Can't wait to see the results of the SE WI speaker shootout!
post #111 of 148
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Wondering... would I be better to get some really good monitors as my SV Sound PB-13 Ultra will handle the bass?
post #112 of 148
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Originally Posted by jtuttle View Post

Wondering... would I be better to get some really good monitors as my SV Sound PB-13 Ultra will handle the bass?

I recently asked a similar question:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1406177
post #113 of 148
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Originally Posted by Nuance View Post


I misread this initially and have edited my post. Driving two of the surround channels with the receiver will be just fine.

How seriously would you (or anyone else) consider JBL LSR 6332s? I know it is a little over budget but I understand it is the speaker that Harman Int'l chose for their multichannel expo/demo system. Must be good!

Any thoughts?

Thanks!
post #114 of 148
U got the front 3 triad gold lcrs on sale in the avs sales area. Used but dAmn good price
post #115 of 148
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I have decided not to go with Triad Gold LCRs. What are the thoughts on the JBLs... LSR 6332 and saw a post on Salk SoundScape 8s?
post #116 of 148
I would love to recreate the Harman International Reference System for my own HT room. 100% bad a$$.

I just have one question.

Where the hell are the speaker grills?

They might not look so bad with full front grills.
post #117 of 148
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Originally Posted by AcuDefTechGuy View Post

I would love to recreate the Harman International Reference System for my own HT room. 100% bad a$$.

I just have one question.

Where the hell are the speaker grills?

They might not look so bad with full front grills.

Looks are not as important in my dedicated HT as sound quality. I am 75% movies, 20% PS3 and 5% music.

Do you know exactly what the reference system is made up of... LCR and surrounds?
post #118 of 148
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Originally Posted by jtuttle View Post

Looks are not as important in my dedicated HT as sound quality. I am 75% movies, 20% PS3 and 5% music.

Do you know exactly what the reference system is made up of... LCR and surrounds?

7.4 System:

Seven JBL LSR6332 monitors & four JBL HB 5000 subs.
post #119 of 148
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Originally Posted by AcuDefTechGuy View Post


7.4 System:

Seven JBL LSR6332 monitors & four JBL HB 5000 subs.

Have you heard them or, have you compared them to JTR T8s?
post #120 of 148
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Originally Posted by jtuttle View Post

How seriously would you (or anyone else) consider JBL LSR 6332s? I know it is a little over budget but I understand it is the speaker that Harman Int'l chose for their multichannel expo/demo system. Must be good!

Any thoughts?

Thanks!

They are likely very awesome speakers, and since you're 75% HT they'll probably suit you very well. Harman makes great stuff in my opinion. I'd take them over the Triple 8's in a heartbeat.
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