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post #151 of 446
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Originally Posted by WilliamR View Post

I think it is totally stupid to let the judges be able to do three X's and stop an act. Totally lame. The public is voting. If we are voting, we should see the whole act and decide ourselves, it has nothing to do with the judges. Sure, let them be able to do 3 X's but the show can continue and not stop, it is now up to America, not the judges.
And what if the act is like watching paint dry (or worse) for 90 seconds? The three Xs is a safety valve for NBC in case an act is so bad that viewers might start tuning out. Meanwhile it looks bad for the two (or three) judges who gave one of the precious 48 spots to that act in the first place.

Plus, if the act is such an audience favorite, they can be outraged and still vote many times to put that act through.
post #152 of 446
Yes. I agree. That guy sucked, and needed the X's. I don't know why they let him through at all; they already had another guy that invents instruments (the guy who made the harp in the theater), and they passed him through to the New York round without even auditioning in Vegas.

I'm surprised they allowed Howard to openly state who he thought the top 4 acts were, but then Howie agreed and for that matter so do I. It was obvious that some of these acts are better than the others.
post #153 of 446
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Originally Posted by Jarod M View Post

And what if the act is like watching paint dry (or worse) for 90 seconds? The three Xs is a safety valve for NBC in case an act is so bad that viewers might start tuning out. Meanwhile it looks bad for the two (or three) judges who gave one of the precious 48 spots to that act in the first place.
Plus, if the act is such an audience favorite, they can be outraged and still vote many times to put that act through.

I doubt they are worried about viewers turning the channel after a 90 second act. Especially on the already highly rated show that is #1 in the ratings. Let the judges vote, but if it truly is up to America, let us see the whole thing and let us decide.
post #154 of 446

Well, just imagine what will happen when the old lounge singer (forgot his name, thankfully) starts wailing, horribly off-key!  I can only hope they triple-X him immediately and can't imagine why Mandel was so high on him to pass him on.  Just imagine the poor folks with at least a little talent who got dismissed because this guy was given a slot.  

post #155 of 446
Racial solidarity is a beautiful thing.
post #156 of 446
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Originally Posted by cwilson View Post

Racial solidarity is a beautiful thing.
I wasn't going there but I still think you can't advertise people's be voting will choose the winners and then let the judges decide 1/4 of them.
post #157 of 446
The ventriloquist's material was lame, and it showed no signs of improvement in three shows. What was he going to do next time, add a third dog? Regardless who the judges put through, neither one would advance past the next round, so it really doesn't matter.
post #158 of 446
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Originally Posted by David James View Post

I wasn't going there but I still think you can't advertise people's be voting will choose the winners and then let the judges decide 1/4 of them.

Given that the show has worked this way for at least one season (I only started watching last season), why not? They make it clear that the last two left standing were the 4th and 5th place vote getters. I'm not sure what your problem is.
Now, since I can't be sure what was meant by cwilson's post. Let's just say that both remaining contestants were Caucasian. Other than that, there were no racial differences.
post #159 of 446
I really don't see a winner from this batch of contestants... Let's hope for the next batch to really step it up..

36 more to go (or should we say 12 more will pass)
post #160 of 446
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Originally Posted by mscottc View Post

Given that the show has worked this way for at least one season (I only started watching last season), why not? They make it clear that the last two left standing were the 4th and 5th place vote getters. I'm not sure what your problem is..
Sorry, I thought I was clear pretty clear. The show claims the people make the decisions from the Las Vegas point forward. Yet the people do not choose 25% of those that move on.

It's a just a personality flaw within me to point out when people make claims they know aren't true. No biggie.
Edited by David James - 7/4/12 at 8:04am
post #161 of 446
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Originally Posted by mscottc View Post

Now, since I can't be sure what was meant by cwilson's post. Let's just say that both remaining contestants were Caucasian. Other than that, there were no racial differences.
I'm pretty sure that the reference is to both Howie and Edon being Jewish. Howie has even made numerous references to that fact (on Monday, he said something to the effect of "Jew are a star", and last night he said Edon is one of the chosen people.)

That being said, Edon was clearly the better contestant between himself and the ventriloquist. He was probably already the 4th place vote. I'd like to see the raw numbers, but I'd at least hope he was several thousand votes ahead of the ventriloquist.
post #162 of 446
Finally!! It only took me 7 seasons to go 4-0. Pretty easy call this week, but I’ve thought that before and usually ended up 3-1.

Shanice’s dad really picked it up this week. She may be the best singer in the group.

Two very good artists that could make things interesting this year. I like them both.

It looks like we are back to it being the Howard Stern Show. Did he ever ramble on or what. Sheesh. Make your point and move on. At least he agrees with me that it could be a dancers year.
post #163 of 446
Slowly becoming again "America's got singers" (2 made it from 12 contestants, poor Aussie dissapointed), and I thought the ventiloquist guy somehow made it after bad reviews from judges on Monday. I think the BMX group was more entertaining than him..

I thought the 787 crew will going all the way, I guess is not a dancing year again...
post #164 of 446
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Originally Posted by Aliens View Post

Finally!! It only took me 7 seasons to go 4-0. Pretty easy call this week, but I’ve thought that before and usually ended up 3-1.
Shanice’s dad really picked it up this week. She may be the best singer in the group.
Two very good artists that could make things interesting this year. I like them both.
It looks like we are back to it being the Howard Stern Show. Did he ever ramble on or what. Sheesh. Make your point and move on. At least he agrees with me that it could be a dancers year.
You call that rambling? Ever watch any other live reality shows with judges involved? Many nights in the old AI days Paula Abdul rambled on for so long that Simon had no time to talk. Anytime AI has 12 acts in that 2 hour slot, they can barely fit the singing and the judges' inane comments/rambling/awkward pauses into the allowed time. X-Factor with Nicole S. was a disaster live-and they're actually bringing her back this year for the British version.

Howard is a fast talker who DOES get right to the point-I bet if he were timed compared to Howie and Sharon, he didn't take up that much more than a 1/3 of it. They were actually conversational instead of rushed. I liked that. Plus, they did have 2 hours to fill. I don't know what else was going to fill the time.
post #165 of 446
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Originally Posted by Jarod M View Post

You call that rambling? Ever watch any other live reality shows with judges involved?
Nah, I have no interest in them, this is the only one.

Heck, even Sharon and Nick called him on it. When Sharon started to give her response Howard started talking again (IIRC, I’m right and there isn’t any need to go further) and she told him to shut up, he’d talked enough.
post #166 of 446
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Originally Posted by tighr View Post

That being said, Edon was clearly the better contestant between himself and the ventriloquist.
It was clear in our house as well. The ventriloquist deserved to move on.
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Originally Posted by tighr View Post

He was probably already the 4th place vote. I'd like to see the raw numbers, but I'd at least hope he was several thousand votes ahead of the ventriloquist.
Sadly, and this is my gripe above, we'll never know if the voters 4th got screwed or correct was the actual 4th choice.
post #167 of 446
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Originally Posted by Aliens View Post

Nah, I have no interest in them, this is the only one.
Heck, even Sharon and Nick called him on it. When Sharon started to give her response Howard started talking again (IIRC, I’m right and there isn’t any need to go further) and she told him to shut up, he’d talked enough.
And what nugget of wisdom and insight did Sharon then provide regarding the performer?
post #168 of 446
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Originally Posted by Jarod M View Post

And what nugget of wisdom and insight did Sharon then provide regarding the performer?
Honestly, I don’t recall every "nugget" of information each judge gives throughout the night. I took Howard as rambling, you didn’t. Maybe you watch a lot of reality based TV and have become desensitized to the BS that goes on and Howard didn’t seem that over-the-top to you, so be it. As I said, I don’t watch reality TV, so after watching AGT for 7 seasons and someone rambles on like I’ve never seen before, it draws my attention. That is my opinion based on my viewing habits. YMMV.

I just wanted to add –

The season started with the producers featuring the new kid on the block, Howard, for the first several episodes. He was also very good in his critiques. Then as the season went on he turned into a wus and was even passing through those he would X out. This past week the Howard that started the season returned. It was good to see his pointed and very accurate, as I saw it, critiques. Because I agreed and like Howard doesn’t mean that he is immune from criticism when I think it is deserved. I thought he dominated the conversation a couple of times this past week and was arrogant in doing so. Those are my opinions and others are fully capable of having their own. We can agree to disagree.
Edited by Aliens - 7/6/12 at 4:55am
post #169 of 446
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Originally Posted by mgkdragn View Post

I don't know if this provides any insight, however, I attended some of the auditions / selection shows this year with Stern on the panel .. he was very overbearing, Howie had to really butt in to get any comments in and Sharon had little to no time to talk ..


Stern just kept talking and talking, and then would interupt Howie and Sharon when they tried to say anything .. Stern has a very commanding voice in person and it seemed he just took over .. don't know how that will play on the actual show ..


As well, Stern was very much a camera hog .. he had no problem getting out of the chair regularly to walk on stage with the contestants .. and he was quite critical, often bordering on outright rude ..


IOW, he was Howard Stern ..

Remember this post from the first page of this thread? mgkdragn pointed out way back at the auditions that he noticed Howard dominated and was a "camera hog". But those shows were edited so we didn't see that much of it. Now that it's live they can't hide it. Howard is Howard..
post #170 of 446
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Originally Posted by Rich Peterson View Post

Remember this post from the first page of this thread? mgkdragn pointed out way back at the auditions that he noticed Howard dominated and was a "camera hog". But those shows were edited so we didn't see that much of it. Now that it's live they can't hide it. Howard is Howard..

IMO, he's brought new life to the show .. although when he ripped into the Hardware Store is Where I get my Musical Instruments dude, I thought he took it a little too far .. the guy had a talent that far surpassed Big Barry
post #171 of 446
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Originally Posted by Rich Peterson View Post

Remember this post from the first page of this thread? mgkdragn pointed out way back at the auditions that he noticed Howard dominated and was a "camera hog". But those shows were edited so we didn't see that much of it. Now that it's live they can't hide it. Howard is Howard..
True. Stern has been on the national scene for 25 years. He has always dominated. He is "America's Judge," after all. That being said, he is much more reserved and toned down nowadays. The question is, does this get in the way of the show? From what I have seen so far I would say no. I like Sharon when she is being real, but on this show she plays the role of the "comforting judge" and rarely has anything worthwhile to say, so it isn't like she needs more time. I actually think that Howie is better this year now that he isn't spending all of his time trying to foil Piers. As for Nick, is anyone really hoping for more time devoted to his interviews?
post #172 of 446
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Originally Posted by Jarod M View Post

True. Stern has been on the national scene for 25 years. He has always dominated. He is "America's Judge," after all. That being said, he is much more reserved and toned down nowadays. The question is, does this get in the way of the show? From what I have seen so far I would say no. I like Sharon when she is being real, but on this show she plays the role of the "comforting judge" and rarely has anything worthwhile to say, so it isn't like she needs more time. I actually think that Howie is better this year now that he isn't spending all of his time trying to foil Piers. As for Nick, is anyone really hoping for more time devoted to his interviews?

Sharon's about the same as she's always been .. I think Howie is better and brings a little whackyness to the table ..

I won't comment on Nick's interviewing skills, however, IMO, he is an excellent Host .. far ahead of Philbin / Springer ...
post #173 of 446
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I'll add that in my area anyway, the PQ and SQ has just been outstanding on the live shows .. the new venue is obviously trying to show itself off, and the light show could be toned down a bit .. it's hard to see some of the acts because of the lighting, but the venue itself looks great ..
post #174 of 446
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Originally Posted by mgkdragn View Post

Sharon's about the same as she's always been .. I think Howie is better and brings a little whackyness to the table ..
I won't comment on Nick's interviewing skills, however, IMO, he is an excellent Host .. far ahead of Philbin / Springer ...
Nick is a good fit for the format. And he does seem more relaxed, more himself than before, back during the seasons when Howard was complaining that Nick was faking his manner of speaking.
post #175 of 446
Just found this thread, will get my accumulated responses so far out of the way ...
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Originally Posted by Aliens View Post

The premier is two weeks earlier than last year. I wonder if they will have more episodes or whether they will wrap things up earlier this year? Or, are they trying to attract more viewers before the summer vacations start?
Perhaps they're allowing time for the summer Olympics.  What was AGT's schedule in 2008?
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Originally Posted by tighr View Post

For example, The team that came in second place last year (Silhouettes) was entirely consisted of 4-18 year olds.
For me, Silhouettes completely blew it when they went from presenting their tableaux and letting us see them to dissolving into a picture of what they were representing to hit us over the heads with it because they decided we couldn't recognize the shape without being told.
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Originally Posted by Aliens View Post

The past couple of years Bollywood was hot, this year it looks like it's clogging. Not that I mind because I like clogging.
The only cloggers I've noticed are All That, and frankly, they should be disqualified.  They were finalists in Season 1 and won a car (as did the Millers).  Would Terry Fator get to come back and compete again?
post #176 of 446
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Originally Posted by dattier View Post

The only cloggers I've noticed are All That, and frankly, they should be disqualified.  They were finalists in Season 1 and won a car (as did the Millers).  Would Terry Fator get to come back and compete again?
Elements Dance Cru – female fusion cloggers. I came to that impression in May, when that was posted, because there were two clogging groups during the first couple of weeks. I felt it was a valid comment then; I wouldn't make it now, however. But nice try. wink.gif

And I agree; All That shouldn’t be back. Were they given another chance because they added two more guys, therefore they aren’t the ‘same group’ as before? BTW, good catch, I didn’t remember them.
Edited by Aliens - 7/6/12 at 1:28pm
post #177 of 446
Did Elements Dance Cru make the quarterfinals?

I think All That got another chance because nobody remembers them, and maybe they don't remember having been there themselves, or they'd at least have taken the precaution of using a new name.  Truth is that I can't register faces well, and if All That had returned with a different group name, I'd have thought only, "Their clogging and the frontman's twang remind me of All That from Season 1."

Stern claimed that just before auditions began he watched the first six seasons.  So why didn't he know that All That had finished in the money in 2006? 

Prediction: just as with Those Funny Little People in 2011, on whom Mandel used one of his second-chance slots solely to annoy Morgan, look for him to bring Big Barry back this year to annoy Stern (and the rest of us who have ears; the guy cannot sing).  Not to give Mandel that kind of opening is another thing Stern should have known if he truly did watch all six previous seasons just before the 2012 auditions began.

That brings us full circle, doesn't it?  All That were voted off in 2006 and brought back (can't recall whether it was by Morgan, Norwood, or Hasselhoff) in the second-chance round, which they won, getting them their slot in the finals.
post #178 of 446
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Originally Posted by dattier View Post

Did Elements Dance Cru make the quarterfinals?
They did not.

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Originally Posted by dattier View Post

Prediction: just as with Those Funny Little People in 2011, on whom Mandel used one of his second-chance slots solely to annoy Morgan, look for him to bring Big Barry back this year to annoy Stern (and the rest of us who have ears; the guy cannot sing). Not to give Mandel that kind of opening is another thing Stern should have known if he truly did watch all six previous seasons just before the 2012 auditions began.
How ridiculous is that? A second chance? If you weren’t good enough to begin with why bring them back? Because it’s AGT! biggrin.gif

Don’t forget, we have YouTube auditions still to come.
post #179 of 446
I'm pretty sure there were no second-chance rounds in Seasons 2 and 3; not so sure about Season 4.  Seasons 1, 5, and 6 had them and I expect that there will be one in Season 7, which so far has run the same way as 5 and 6.
post #180 of 446
Why no show today? is it Tuesday the new night?

(unless HOTP thread is wrong)
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