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post #61 of 201
12/30/12 at 12:10am
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Originally Posted by mr. wally View Post

Hey oink,
What was your take on inglorious bastards?
I thought it was a cut below most Tarantino films.
Was your take on Durango kind of the same?
I prefer IB by a million percent.
In a lot of ways, QT tries the same formula here with Django.
Sadly, it doesn't work anywhere near as well as it did with IB.

Like I said...If (and a very big IF) Django had ended with the Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
death of Leo,
it would have been top tier QT.
However, it does not.frown.gif

He has never made a movie with more intense social commentary before.
All of his movies have some, but nothing more direct, more bitting as Django.
Had he pulled it off, it would have revealed a much more multi-faceted filmmaker than we know now.
I DO think it was his original impetus for Django (the fingerprints are everywhere) to serve as the vehicle.
Somehow, he lost sight of where to go.wink.gif

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Originally Posted by darthrsg View Post

Internet points for the answers to a question and an observation I thought was off the chain: Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Foxx's taint?
and
DiCaprio bleeding with the skull.
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I thought the Leo-Bleeding-Skull
scene was one of the best of the movie....it got my attention.eek.gif
The scene's explosion was terrific stuff.smile.gif
Edited by oink - 12/30/12 at 12:21am
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post #62 of 201
12/30/12 at 12:16am
Funny oink (and I feel ridiculous using your screen name), but I pretty much agreed with your review and yet really enjoyed the movie. Everything that happens after CW's "handshake" with LD seemed bloated and unnecessary but it didn't kill the movie the way it seemed to do for you. I got into the genreness of the movie and was able to go with it. QT's awful appearance was made palatable by the big bang. So I'm okay with this. I put it inbetween Kill Bill (I rate high) and Inglorious Basterds (not so great but with some fantastic scenes).. Pulp Fiction is still one of my all-time favorites and this ain't that but still much fun.
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post #63 of 201
12/30/12 at 12:27am
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Originally Posted by oink View Post

I prefer IB by a million percent.
In a lot of ways, QT tries the same formula here with Django.
Sadly, it doesn't work anywhere near as well as it did with IB.
Like I said...If (and a very big IF) Django had ended with the Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
death of Leo,
it would have been top tier QT.
However, it does not.frown.gif
He has never made a movie with more intense social commentary before.
All of his movies have some, but nothing more direct, more bitting as Django.
Had he pulled it off, it would have revealed a much more multi-faceted filmmaker than we know now.
I DO think it was his original impetus for Django (the fingerprints are everywhere) to serve as the vehicle.
Somehow, he lost sight of where to go.wink.gifWarning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
I thought the Leo-Bleeding-Skull
scene was one of the best of the movie....it got my attention.eek.gif
The scene's explosion was terrific stuff.smile.gif
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
IMDB says he really bled and they kept rolling. I saw him "ignore" it and blown away.
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post #64 of 201
12/30/12 at 12:28am
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Originally Posted by daryl zero View Post

Funny oink (and I feel ridiculous using your screen name),
Sorry, if I could change my "screen name" I would....it has caused some consternation around here.wink.gif

IF ANYONE WANTS TO USE SOMETHING ELSE, YOU CAN CALL ME BY MY ACTUAL NAME: Scott.
Or just simply A$$hole(my wife does)....I answer to both....tongue.gif


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and yet really enjoyed the movie. Everything that happens after CW's "handshake" with LD seemed bloated and unnecessary.
I couldn't agree more.smile.gif
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post #65 of 201
12/30/12 at 12:31am
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Originally Posted by daryl zero View Post

Funny oink (and I feel ridiculous using your screen name), but I pretty much agreed with your review and yet really enjoyed the movie. Everything that happens after CW's "handshake" with LD seemed bloated and unnecessary but it didn't kill the movie the way it seemed to do for you. I got into the genreness of the movie and was able to go with it. QT's awful appearance was made palatable by the big bang. So I'm okay with this. I put it inbetween Kill Bill (I rate high) and Inglorious Basterds (not so great but with some fantastic scenes).. Pulp Fiction is still one of my all-time favorites and this ain't that but still much fun.

I dunno about EVERYTHING that happened after the handshake. But yeah.
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post #66 of 201
12/30/12 at 12:36am
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Originally Posted by darthrsg View Post

I watched this today. Loved every second. Laughed, cringed, and nearly cried as well as shared some awkward silences with the audience. As a Tarantino fan, Inglorious Basterds dethroned Pulp Fiction as my favorite from him and it may slip yet again after Django.
Cristoph Waltz is amazing and Foxx did just fine.

Im looking forward watching this on blu ray, I enjoy Tarantino's films. Will be a blind buy for me.
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post #67 of 201
12/30/12 at 12:45am
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Originally Posted by Franin View Post

Im looking forward watching this on blu ray, I enjoy Tarantino's films. Will be a blind buy for me.
Hopefully, QT will delete the last 1/4 of the movie for the BD....wink.gif
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post #68 of 201
12/30/12 at 12:53am
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Hopefully, QT will delete the last 1/4 of the movie for the BD....wink.gif

That bad?
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post #69 of 201
12/30/12 at 7:16am
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Originally Posted by Franin View Post

That bad?
Not bad but I can see where you could axe it. Without it you would never: Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
See a red hot knife up on Foxx's taint in a scene very close to the Gimp.
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post #70 of 201
12/30/12 at 7:32am
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There is lens flare in this movie. I seent it.
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post #71 of 201
12/30/12 at 7:55am
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Originally Posted by zoey67 View Post

Leo the fore ever boy once again trying to prove he can wear man's shoes. Ok we get it, he's talented and deep but it's getting tired with the same schtick...Howard hughes, J Edgar, etc but let's be real he's never going to be in the realm of Daniel day lewis. He needs to branch out and do something more his speed like his peers Ed norton, Damon and Cruise or something different like a action flick or even a marvel comic book as I'm sure there's more planned. He can do it, I don't why he doesn't do em it's almost like he has the sean penn syndrome and doesn't want to "sell out". Well his agent or someone should tell him it's time his career needs some selling out to keep it interesting.


You know one thing that makes a bonafide A list hollywood star is someone who has a franchise and Leo is one A lister that does not. Willis has die hard, Arnold has terminator, Cruise has MI, Damon has Bourne, Keanu has Matrix, Will has Men in black etc. Leo..where's yours big buy?

Brad Pitt has no franchise and actively avoids it, I've read.
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/nearing-50-heightened-perspective-pitt
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post #72 of 201
12/30/12 at 9:16am
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Not bad but I can see where you could axe it. Without it you would never: Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
See a red hot knife up on Foxx's taint in a scene very close to the Gimp.
True, but I think most around here wouldn't mind going thru life without seeing it....biggrin.gif
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post #73 of 201
12/30/12 at 9:37am
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Originally Posted by oink View Post

True, but I think most around here wouldn't mind going thru life without seeing it....biggrin.gif
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DUDE IT'S TAINT AND A RED HOT KNIFE!!!! I could hear the theater seats squeak in tension all the way down to the front row.
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post #74 of 201
12/30/12 at 10:19am
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DUDE IT'S TAINT AND A RED HOT KNIFE!!!! I could hear the theater seats squeak in tension all the way down to the front row.
I know, I know...biggrin.gif
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post #75 of 201
12/30/12 at 10:38am
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Originally Posted by darthrsg View Post

I watched this today. Loved every second. Laughed, cringed, and nearly cried as well as shared some awkward silences with the audience. As a Tarantino fan, Inglorious Basterds dethroned Pulp Fiction as my favorite from him and it may slip yet again after Django.
Cristoph Waltz is amazing and Foxx did just fine.
DiCaprio plays the greasiest piece of s**t ever put on film followed by Samuel L. Jackson playing the second greasiest piece. Lively debate in the lobby of the theater drove home that some of these people portrayed are still around.

I'm pleased and relieved that you loved Django as much as I and most others did. Oink's more of less negative comments were giving me a crises in confidence.smile.gif

More seriously, as much as I loved Django, upon further reflection I would have a hard time ranking it ahead of either Reservoir Dogs or Pulp Fiction. Pulp Fiction to my mind is one of the best films ever made. Still, Tarantino's continuing ability to give us wonderful stuff is remarkable. I watched my BD of Reservoir Dogs again a couple of nights ago and was blown away, again. Tonight, I plan to watch my Pulp Fiction BD again.
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post #76 of 201
12/30/12 at 10:50am
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Originally Posted by gwsat View Post

I'm pleased and relieved that you loved Django as much as I and most others did. Oink's more of less negative comments were giving me a crises in confidence.smile.gif
More seriously, as much as I loved Django, upon further reflection I would have a hard time ranking it ahead of either Reservoir Dogs or Pulp Fiction. Pulp Fiction to my mind is one of the best films ever made. Still, Tarantino's continuing ability to give us wonderful stuff is remarkable. I watched my BD of Reservoir Dogs again a couple of nights ago and was blown away, again. Tonight, I plan to watch my Pulp Fiction BD again.

Today is Kill Bill and Death Proof day at my house.
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post #77 of 201
12/30/12 at 10:59am
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Today is Kill Bill and Death Proof day at my house.

There is no bad Tarantino but Death Proof is my least favorite of his films. For some reason I have never got around to buying the Kill Bill 1 and 2 BDs. I'll try to remedy that one of these days.

In an earlier post, I commented on the beauty and effectiveness of Tarantino's use in Django of Jim Croce's I Got a Name. I failed to say, though, that this wonderful song was accompaniment to a scene of heart-stopping beauty in which Dr. Schultz and Django are moving on horseback across a snow covered plain. What a beautiful scene!
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post #78 of 201
12/30/12 at 11:06am
Django is a great film (if it concludes with the "handshake" scene).wink.gif
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post #79 of 201
12/30/12 at 11:29am
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Originally Posted by gwsat View Post

There is no bad Tarantino but Death Proof is my least favorite of his films. For some reason I have never got around to buying the Kill Bill 1 and 2 BDs. I'll try to remedy that one of these days.
In an earlier post, I commented on the beauty and effectiveness of Tarantino's use in Django of Jim Croce's I Got a Name. I failed to say, though, that this wonderful song was accompaniment to a scene of heart-stopping beauty in which Dr. Schultz and Django are moving on horseback across a snow covered plain. What a beautiful scene!

No doubt and you could see the emotion in Hildi though she had few lines. All around a great film even after the handshake smile.gif
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The weakest was the mining company scene BUT one of the strongest was the SLJ scene telling Django where he was going regarding the mining company ala Wallace and Butch losing his LA privileges.
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post #80 of 201
12/30/12 at 11:31am
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Oink's Scott, the A$$hole, more or less negative comments were giving me a crises in confidence.smile.gif
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Updated version. wink.gifbiggrin.gif
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post #81 of 201
12/30/12 at 12:04pm
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Originally Posted by darthrsg View Post

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one of the strongest was the SLJ scene telling Django where he was going regarding the mining company ala Wallace and Butch losing his LA privileges.
It's funny because I did flash on that too.wink.gif

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There is no bad Tarantino but Death Proof is my least favorite of his films.
Death Proof also suffered from Weinstein interference/insistence of bloating the runtime to sell more tickets.

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scene of heart-stopping beauty in which Dr. Schultz and Django are moving on horseback across a snow covered plain. What a beautiful scene!
You need to get out West a little more....almost every western state has similar terrain.smile.gif
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Updated version. wink.gifbiggrin.gif
I just KNEW you couldn't resist.biggrin.gif
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post #82 of 201
12/30/12 at 1:33pm
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Originally Posted by oink View Post

You need to get out West a little more....almost every western state has similar terrain.smile.gif
I just KNEW you couldn't resist.biggrin.gif

I've been there and understand the beauty of the western mountains and high plains when they are covered in snow. What made the scene in Django was that it was a startlingly beautiful homage to the very few similar scenes depicted in earlier westerns. Of Course, Django was only a western during the months of the winter when Dr. Schmidt and Django were in the west. Other than that segment, the film was a southern.smile.gif
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post #83 of 201
12/30/12 at 2:11pm
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Originally Posted by gwsat View Post

Of Course, Django was only a western during the months of the winter when Dr. Schmidt and Django were in the west. Other than that segment, the film was a southern.smile.gif
Except the shots of the southern California hills.....
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1853728/locations
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post #84 of 201
12/30/12 at 2:37pm
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Originally Posted by oink View Post

Except the shots of the southern California hills.....
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1853728/locations

Yep, it happens in at least 90 percent of every movie ever made, Southern California is used as a stand-in for anyplace else in the world the story is supposed to be taking place.
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post #85 of 201
12/30/12 at 2:39pm
I'm in Mississippi and it was based there. Only the plantation stuff looks right. When they transport Django to the mine it was all out of character as it were.
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post #86 of 201
12/30/12 at 10:20pm
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Originally Posted by gwsat View Post

Yep, it happens in at least 90 percent of every movie ever made, Southern California is used as a stand-in for anyplace else in the world the story is supposed to be taking place.
True.biggrin.gif

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Originally Posted by darthrsg View Post

When they transport Django to the mine it was all out of character as it were.
It was shot during the summer or early fall in the California foothills that run along the coast from S.C. to Frisco.
In the spring, the grass is green.
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post #87 of 201
12/31/12 at 5:56am
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Originally Posted by rhett7660 View Post

Saw this yesterday. Liked the film, but it did drag in a few places. The Dr and Mr. Jackson's characters stole the show for me. There were two scenes I could have done without, but I know why they were there, just didn't like them. The scene with the dogs and the two slaves fighting.
I was entertained to say the least, I absolutely loved the Dr. Great character!!!

I also loved the Dr. Who would have thought the germans would come off as lovable :=)
OMG the way Jacksons character was done. Fantastic.

Lead up to the dog scene I thought the guy playing the slave did a wonderful job.
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post #88 of 201
12/31/12 at 4:30pm
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Originally Posted by oink View Post

True.biggrin.gif
It was shot during the summer or early fall in the California foothills that run along the coast from S.C. to Frisco.
In the spring, the grass is green.

is that santa cruz to sf?

do the green hills look something like phantom menace battle shots?
if so, that would be a slightly different location.
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post #89 of 201
12/31/12 at 6:03pm
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Originally Posted by mr. wally View Post

is that santa cruz to sf?
According to IDMB, it was shot near Santa Clarita (just north of LA).

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do the green hills look something like phantom menace battle shots?
if so, that would be a slightly different location.
I don't really remember what those shots look like....wink.gif
But there is a long stretch of low lying hills in Calif. that pretty much look the same.
Hollywood has used these for backdrops probably more than any other place (except for studio lots).
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post #90 of 201
1/3/13 at 6:29am
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Originally Posted by oink View Post

According to IDMB, it was shot near Santa Clarita (just north of LA).
I don't really remember what those shots look like....wink.gif
But there is a long stretch of low lying hills in Calif. that pretty much look the same.
Hollywood has used these for backdrops probably more than any other place (except for studio lots).

So filmed in LA and in La. smile.gif
I have read some black people have had a hard time with this film, But only days after seeing it. Well its been over a week for me and I still think it's a wonderful film. The only thing I did not enjoy was the parents bring young girls ( 6 to 8) to see it . Maybe they saw it first but I doubt it.
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