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post #1 of 19
4/14/12 at 10:48am
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hi guys- this thread is for anyone wanting to discuss those evasive workprints, alternate and tv cuts......anyone else a big collector like myself? owning OVER 6,000 SUCH TITLES WHICH ARE HARD TO FIND OR OBTAIN, i help people reunite with their lost films.

if youre a creepy collector who think's he or she is too good enough to share or discuss anything ( and i know who u are ) ill make sure everyone gets the links to everything YOU have; bringing u down a couple notches!!!

....aaaannnnnd GO!!!
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post #2 of 19
4/14/12 at 11:06am
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Dont worry, you're all able to curse, disagree, rant, and / or compliment without fear of being blocked-but lets all try to help one another to get the stuff we want to collect.
Remember- we're here to enjoy, not act uppity because u own a room full of dvd's as opposed to 3 very trusty hard drives (4 tb each)...theres no reason not to share!!
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post #3 of 19
4/14/12 at 12:17pm
Sounds great!

About time real film fans helped each other out in obtaining those rare versions of films.

I've been trying to get Bram Stoker's Dracula HD version before they altered it for Blu Ray. The Blu Ray has blatant digital artifacting which for an analog shot film should not be there.

Thanks for the original work print of Dracula you posted on Youtube!!!!!!!!! Dracula fans are in for a treat!

That was so great of you!
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post #4 of 19
4/14/12 at 4:20pm
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soooo very welcome- and theres more fun to come!!! im gonna personally see to it that anyone wanting something in the collectables realm of movies wont have to go to some seedy dealer-and for those thinking that owning over 10,000 dvd's is the bomb!!!
(get a 2 TB harddrive, and transfer those dvd's onto something more saveable-and unceremoniously dump out all those useless discs, or use it to serve your friends beer... NO GUY WHO WANTS TO GET LAID AT ANY POINT WILL IMPRESS HIS POTENTIAL DATE WITH A PILE OF ****** DVD'S!!!! And unless she's into collecting clowns or porcaelin catS , wont want to stick around past some idiot explaining how he has hidden episodes of i love lucy....
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post #5 of 19
4/14/12 at 4:20pm
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btw- youre very welcome!!!
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post #6 of 19
4/15/12 at 2:55am
Thank you! That's what it is about. Any director of a film would be happy to know someone takes enough interest in their work.

Work prints give a lot of insight into the film making process creatively and make for an interesting discussion. Most of us buy the originals many times over both on DVD and Blu Ray, not to mention VHS.

So saying that, it is so nice to see a work print if you are a fan of a particular film.

Back To The Future is one I would love to see! Batman 1989 and Returns 1992.
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post #7 of 19
4/15/12 at 1:15pm
The workprint for Bladerunner is on the 5 disc BD version along with other versions and of course the final cut with Ridley Scott's commentary.
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post #8 of 19
4/16/12 at 4:59am
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Originally Posted by Brian Conrad View Post

The workprint for Bladerunner is on the 5 disc BD version along with other versions and of course the final cut with Ridley Scott's commentary.

I love it when studios release different versions of a film in the same package. That way everyone is happy and they can happily sit alongside the other versions.

It's when they change a film's look and withhold the version many are used to that annoys me. Obviously Ridley Scott gets it and understands the needs of the people who support his work as in the fans.
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post #9 of 19
4/16/12 at 6:36am
The rough cut of THIN RED LINE that I viewed on VHS is the best war movie ever made and blows the pretentious final cut out of the water. Malick edited his own film into oblivion.

PAYBACK's rough cut is better than the so called Director's cut released on HD-DVD and Blu Ray. Much better. Hugely so.
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post #10 of 19
4/18/12 at 3:19am
Rough cuts are usually presented to a test audience and studio executives.
The studio in a lot of instances can order the director to make the required changes based on the opinions of the test panel answers.

Someone like Ridley Scott has a lot of control but for many other directors, the financiers can have the final say.

At the end of the day, they just want to get it to the widest audience out there.
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post #11 of 19
4/21/12 at 11:33am
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Originally Posted by WarrenD View Post

I love it when studios release different versions of a film in the same package. That way everyone is happy and they can happily sit alongside the other versions.

It's when they change a film's look and withhold the version many are used to that annoys me. Obviously Ridley Scott gets it and understands the needs of the people who support his work as in the fans.

I concur. I'm very glad the BD of Legend included the European DC scored by Goldsmith. Much better storyline and film IMO than the US theatrical version. Gave me a whole new appreciation for the film.

The Tangerine Dream/Yes track is still a nice piece of music to listen to though.
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post #12 of 19
4/21/12 at 11:56am
I also recommend the extended 60-minute pilot of the The Invaders, included in the Season 1 DVD Extras, on the last disc.

Unlike the regular 45-minute pilot, which appears to have been sourced from an inferior time-compressed video master, the previously unseen extended version appears to have been transferred directly from a rough film print, and has a much grittier and more "filmic" look to it.

The extended pilot is a pretty good SF film in it's own right, with a great score by Dominic Frontiere. It's better than alot of material which passes for theatrical releases. If the A/V quality was a tad better, IMO it would probably be worth the price of the whole collection.
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post #13 of 19
4/21/12 at 12:23pm

Third recommendation would be the reconstruction from stills of Lon Chaney, Sr.'s London After Midnight included in this TCM Chaney collection...



I'd give a (small) prince's fortune though to see the original film. Anyone know if there are plans to release the reconstruction on BD?


Edited by ADU - 1/10/13 at 3:51pm
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post #14 of 19
10/25/12 at 1:46am
Just uploaded the pre-title sequence of The Living Daylights.

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post #15 of 19
10/25/12 at 2:06pm
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Originally Posted by Matt_Stevens View Post

The rough cut of THIN RED LINE that I viewed on VHS is the best war movie ever made and blows the pretentious final cut out of the water. Malick edited his own film into oblivion.

I would like to know how it differs from the released version
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post #16 of 19
10/25/12 at 4:01pm
I wish they would have integrate the intro from the TV version of the Warriors (1979) instead of the weird comic book version they put out a few years ago.
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post #17 of 19
10/25/12 at 4:03pm
Apocalypse Now – A 330 minute long workprint circulates amongst collectors on the internet

Grizzly II: The Predator – This 1984 film, featuring George Clooney, Charlie Sheen, Louise Fletcher, John Rhys-Davies, and Laura Dern, has never officially been completed or released, and only the workprint survives.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Workprint


The Thief And The Cobbler

http://www.awn.com/mag/issue1.12/articles/williams1.12.html
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post #18 of 19
10/25/12 at 4:09pm
Fan Project List — Workprints and Bootlegs

http://originaltrilogy.com/fan-edits/fan-project-list.cfm/Workprints-and-Bootlegs/category/8/
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post #19 of 19
10/27/12 at 12:30pm
I would love to see John Wo Hard Target said to run 116 Min's not the 86 mins that was in the theaters.
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