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post #1111 of 2178
12/22/12 at 6:56am
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Hi tataniko.
The projector also work from the rf 3d glasses?RF/Bluetooth sync from the dlp projector? Sister has at home these from Samsung http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-SSG-4100GB-Active-Glasses-Models/dp/B007K9P7H0 This would work together, these glasses and LG PA70G?Or dlp-link glasses must be?
Hi bony, the main problem, the 3D is not standardized well, many companies have own solutions, such Samsung, LG, Nvidia, Texas, etc. There are lot of different solutions for 3D at the moment, so these different solutions are mixed our mind well.

LG PA70G uses Texas 3D DLP Link technology, which is one of the best 3D picture at home and very cheap solution at the moment, no ghost, good colors, no flickering, but easy to lost sync, easy pseudo 3D and must be many brightness. DLP Link 3D active glasses have a receiver in glasses frame, and you should point(see) with your glasses directly to screen, because the frame itself contains the sync. No need Bluetooth, infrared on any wireless solution, only you have see the picture.

I think, your linked Samsung glasses are not suitable for DLP Link 3D projectors.
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post #1112 of 2178
12/22/12 at 8:19am
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Edited by bony - 12/27/12 at 11:35am
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post #1113 of 2178
12/22/12 at 8:25am
I received some thank you messages about my solutions and custom monitor driver. I surprised well, because it is working not only LG, but other projector too. Thank you to all.

But, I'd like to share something important thing to you: I observed, when I use frequently 3D, especial DLP Link 120hz active shutter glasses, my eyes became sharper by time. First time, I didn't understand how it is possible, but finally I figured out some logic reasons, and I have to say, this technology trains my eyes well and helps my eyes to regenerate. This is a very good news. But I think this side effect is not good for the kids, because their eyes are evolving, and probably gives negative stress for them.

I am afraid about the children, because 3D eyes effect is strange, and we don't know exactly what will be cause to them.
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post #1114 of 2178
12/22/12 at 9:01am
I am not eye specialist, but I found some reason, why my eyes became sharper:

In childhood, usually covers eye for weeks, it helps to regenerate. 120hz active glasses are covering my eyes 60 times in a seconds, what happens then?

My brain is too slow, and it can not understand and follow the shutter glasses changing, so I can not see the cover, or flickering, but:
- my eyes nerves perceives the changing (covering)
- and this is a real effect and train for the nerves.
- Also I use my eyes and focusing more frequently because 3D deepness,
- this focusing is also training my eyes muscles well.

Finally I have to say firstly in this world, 3D DLP Link active glasses have a very good side effect for adults, and help to regenerate the eyes nerves and muscles.
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post #1115 of 2178
12/22/12 at 9:04am
I started a new thread on this but I would also like to post it here. I just got my lg pa70g from fry's (399.00) smile.gif. I would like someone to post their setting to kind of get me started on finding what works for me as far as best picture. Mainly concerned about skin tones and dark scenes in movies. Thanks in advance.
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post #1116 of 2178
12/22/12 at 9:12am
Does anyone know if the LGA70G supports Audio Return Channel..? I didn't see anything about it in the manual.
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post #1117 of 2178
12/22/12 at 7:39pm
I have to say I just received this projector and I do not have any focus issues. This is my first projector and coming from a 73" Mitsubishi DLP HDTV I am very happy with it. The manufacturer date is Nov 2012 and with a projected 120" I still have a small adjustment left on the focus wheel. In a few years when 1080p LED becomes more affordable then I will upgrade again. For the money, $399 at Frye's, I don't see how you could do better. I personally wouldn't use it to replace an HDTV for everyday watching but for occasional movie nights, sports and gaming I think its a win win for me.
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post #1118 of 2178
12/22/12 at 7:53pm
I returned 2 hw300's and 1 pa70 to my local frys, never had to pay re-stoking fees, I just printed out a page from a blog where the problem was discussed, and a bit of diplomacy, I talked my way out of a stoking fee. but it's something you have to think about...I have sure way of avoiding the stocking fee, but I won't post it, if anyone wants to know, message me:D:D
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post #1119 of 2178
12/22/12 at 8:02pm
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Originally Posted by rgtaa View Post

LOL!
You might get more than you bargained for and get 3 excellent focused units. smile.gif
We all understand the frustration and anxiety of not knowing if we will get a "focused" unit.
That is why I hope that every single person who buys one, comes here and tells us how their unit is.
I am also hoping for the day when everybody comes and says all of the new ones are focused.
Then we can put this issue to rest.
Now, all of the people with unfocused units should call LG and Fry's and tell them the problem. And not accept any restocking fee. If the unit is defective and a number of us send it back for FOCUS issue, fry's should call LG and complain and tell them to get their act together.
I know I was frustrated in wondering if I would get focused unit. I didn't buy it 3 months ago because people were reporting this focus issue. I thank all you guys that alerted us to the problem, and the actions you took. This is a good forum room. I did finally order one the beginning of dec, and the picture was in focus but focus wheel was no right. My second unit I just got is working great.
Now, I am grateful to all you guys, really! Because some of you guys came and alerted us to problem, and the newer guys reporting they are getting focused units now.!

I have to shared this story about frys....I returned the HW300W because of the stretching issues a while back, they didn't charge me re-stocking fee because I was armed with tons of reports of the well documented issue. they promised me that they would report the issue to LG and that would would send the unit back to LG as defective. guess what? a friend bought the same projector a week later, frys never sent it back and just put it back on the shelf. I know because I had written down the SN down when I called LG support. so don't expect frys to lift a finger to help you with LG issues.
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post #1120 of 2178
12/22/12 at 9:02pm
does anyone know if 700lumen version has wireless connection embedded ?

Do we need to buy a wireless dongle or does it support wireless connection at first place

thanks!luojie
Edited by avsforumsdsd - 12/25/12 at 2:12am
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post #1121 of 2178
12/22/12 at 10:57pm
@ rgtaa, tataniko, everybody

Can you check if your PA70G-lense has the vertical or horizontal "flap"? I'd like to know if vertical is normal or not.
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post #1122 of 2178
12/23/12 at 2:24am
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Originally Posted by quartz7 View Post

@ rgtaa, tataniko, everybody
Can you check if your PA70G-lense has the vertical or horizontal "flap"? I'd like to know if vertical is normal or not.
Dear quartz7, all of them turned with 90 degrees even LG PA75G, it's inexplicable, we have to say vertical is normal.

I have never seen an unit with horizontal position.
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post #1123 of 2178
12/23/12 at 7:07am
I've been playing with my settings for close to an hour now trying to get it to match my hdtv. Anyway here are the settings I have come up with. If anyone has some they would like to share then please post them for others to try.

Saved under Picture Mode: Expert 2
Contrast 85
Brightness 50
H Sharpness 80
V Sharpness 90
Color 40
Tint G25

Expert Control
Everything Off
Black Level High
Color Filter Off
Color Temperature Medium
Gamma 2.2
Method 2 Points
All contrast 0
All Color Management 0
Edited by daltrey - 12/23/12 at 7:20am
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post #1124 of 2178
12/23/12 at 9:12am
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Originally Posted by rgtaa View Post

...VGA 3D file you gave in link, all I had to do in Windows 8 was right click on it, and pick INSTALL, it gave warning, and I clicked link on same page, and it gave option to still install it , and I did that, and rebooted my computer and it worked, those, 120hz options then appeared for me...
Dear rgtaa, congratulations, you successfully installed LG 120hz VGA monitor driver in your system. Now, you have to configure Windows 8 Codecs and Stereoscopic player to work properly. I posted my detailed 3D configuration earlier, please read it, and that will be help to understand.

But here is a 3D quick setup:

1. Install custom LG PA70G 120hz VGA monitor driver.
* 1280x768@120hz

2. Install and configure Window 7/8 Codecs with LAV decoder
- LAV decoder configured:
* decode Xvid/Divx/Mp4v/Avi/Mkv/H.264/AVC
* use hardware decoder DXVA2 Copy Back method (Radeon) or other (it's GPU depending)

3. Install and configure Stereoscopic Player (I use 1.8 portable edition)
- Stereoscopic player, configured:
* use LAV decoder for Mpeg4/AVC/MVC videos
* viewing method by Software page flipping

4. Enjoy 3D
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post #1125 of 2178
12/23/12 at 10:43am
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Originally Posted by tataniko View Post

Dear rgtaa, congratulations, you successfully installed LG 120hz VGA monitor driver in your system. Now, you have to configure Windows 8 Codecs and Stereoscopic player to work properly. I posted my detailed 3D configuration earlier, please read it, and that will be help to understand.
But here is a 3D quick setup:
1. Install custom LG PA70G 120hz VGA monitor driver.
* 1280x768@120hz
2. Install and configure Window 7/8 Codecs with LAV decoder
- LAV decoder configured:
* decode Xvid/Divx/Mp4v/Avi/Mkv/H.264/AVC
* use hardware decoder DXVA2 Copy Back method (Radeon) or other (it's GPU depending)
3. Install and configure Stereoscopic Player (I use 1.8 portable edition)
- Stereoscopic player, configured:
* use LAV decoder for Mpeg4/AVC/MVC videos
* viewing method by Software page flipping
4. Enjoy 3D

tataniko, for those of us who don't have or don't want to use a computer, what are our options/set up when it comes to 3D viewing, I wanna use my 3D bluray player, can it be done with some kind of converter?
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post #1126 of 2178
12/23/12 at 11:00am
Unfortunately the projector is not compatible with 3D converters. I have the VP3D1 and it is displaying the correct shuttered image but the projector will not allow me to enable the 3D option so the glasses can sync.

The same setup worked on my Qumi Q2
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post #1127 of 2178
12/23/12 at 11:02am
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Originally Posted by Rugrash View Post

This is tataniko's post on his LG PA70G.
His statement of "limitation of HDMI and chipset there are not enough bandwidth" is completely false.
The limitation is at 1920x1080P@120Hz, the current HDMI chipsets are not capapably of Frame Sequential/Page Flipping at this resolution.

Yah, ask tataniko

According to him....third party 3D controllers such Viewsonic or Optoma, it is possible to reach 720p@120hz, but it is probably fake or a trick, because limitation of HDMI and chipset there are not enough bandwidth, real and good timing for this resolution

Absolutely ludicrous. The guy is a bafoon.
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post #1128 of 2178
12/23/12 at 11:03am
However I do like how the VP3D1 is allowing the projector to project 120hz video so watching movies n tv at that frame rate is a plus
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post #1129 of 2178
12/23/12 at 11:14am
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Originally Posted by Sherazta View Post

Unfortunately the projector is not compatible with 3D converters. I have the VP3D1 and it is displaying the correct shuttered image but the projector will not allow me to enable the 3D option so the glasses can sync.
The same setup worked on my Qumi Q2

There are two things you can try 1. would be an EDID emulator that contains the stereoscopic display data information for 1280x720@120Hz 2. use a HDMI to VGA converter, users have posted success using the ML-500 and K330 with the 3D-Xl and VP3D1

There is also a third option of rewriting the projectors eeprom, if it allows it. (not recommended)
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post #1130 of 2178
12/23/12 at 11:31am
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Originally Posted by Sherazta View Post

However I do like how the VP3D1 is allowing the projector to project 120hz video so watching movies n tv at that frame rate is a plus

For those using a PC there's a program called SmoothVideo Project (SVP) , it does frame interpolation and works with some of the free video players available on the web. I used it to watch King Kong on DVD, it worked very well with all of the fast action in the movie.

http://www.svp-team.com/wiki/Main_Page
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post #1131 of 2178
12/23/12 at 11:32am
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Originally Posted by tataniko View Post

Dear rgtaa, congratulations, you successfully installed LG 120hz VGA monitor driver in your system. Now, you have to configure Windows 8 Codecs and Stereoscopic player to work properly. I posted my detailed 3D configuration earlier, please read it, and that will be help to understand.
But here is a 3D quick setup:
1. Install custom LG PA70G 120hz VGA monitor driver.
* 1280x768@120hz
2. Install and configure Window 7/8 Codecs with LAV decoder
- LAV decoder configured:
* decode Xvid/Divx/Mp4v/Avi/Mkv/H.264/AVC
* use hardware decoder DXVA2 Copy Back method (Radeon) or other (it's GPU depending)
3. Install and configure Stereoscopic Player (I use 1.8 portable edition)
- Stereoscopic player, configured:
* use LAV decoder for Mpeg4/AVC/MVC videos
* viewing method by Software page flipping
4. Enjoy 3D

Thanks for the help, much appreciated.

I'm hoping that in the not too distant future, we can get 3D stick, that can be plugged into the hdmi port and then add hard drive to the 3d stick and it can play all formats of 3D. smile.gif
I guess getting it down the the micro-size is the next step, then getting it small enough so the next generation of PJ's have built in 3D hardware , so if PJ has usb port, we can just plug in our 3d movie/tv stuff and we are good to go.

You guys don't know yet of a 3D converter on a stick , (like PC on a stick) do you? (under 50 dollars) biggrin.gif

update: This is pretty close! http://www.flickr.com/photos/mbarkley/7188327135/
Edited by rgtaa - 12/23/12 at 11:41am
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post #1132 of 2178
12/23/12 at 2:02pm
Doesnt the EDID hack only apply to a pc? Im using my ps3 so would the hmdi to vga converter be the best option?
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post #1133 of 2178
12/23/12 at 2:42pm
If you are refering to an EDID override, then yes, that only apllies to a computer.

An EDID emulator is a device that goes in the chain somewhere after hardware source and before the display, placement varies by user set-up.

Here's an example of one that comes preloaded with Stereoscopic EDIDs http://drhdmi.be/faq.html
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post #1134 of 2178
12/23/12 at 3:08pm
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Originally Posted by daltrey View Post

I've been playing with my settings for close to an hour now trying to get it to match my hdtv. Anyway here are the settings I have come up with. If anyone has some they would like to share then please post them for others to try.
Saved under Picture Mode: Expert 2
Contrast 85
Brightness 50
H Sharpness 80
V Sharpness 90
Color 40
Tint G25
Expert Control
Everything Off
Black Level High
Color Filter Off
Color Temperature Medium
Gamma 2.2
Method 2 Points
All contrast 0
All Color Management 0

Used your numbers and it looks great:)smile.gif Thanks for posting them.
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post #1135 of 2178
12/23/12 at 6:50pm
NO FOCUSING ISSUES BUT........I picked up my second projector at my local frys today after returning the first one due to uneven focus, the good news is that this one has perfectly solid even focus corner to corner, the bad news is that the focusing range is shorter. I was getting 96" diagonal inches (16:10) with focusing range to spare. I had at least one turn to spare on the focusing ring, not this one. I couldn't get 98" inches diagonal if I wanted, the focusing ring won't turn, so it just barely matches my screen. I notice that even if I move the projector closer to the wall (8 to 10 inches) still the focus is all the way to the end of the focusing ring capabilities.

so now, don't know if I should exchange in case I need to use a larger screen in the future or keep since I have even focus...I'll decide tomorrow, I remember my old one could've done 120" easy. The focusing ring on this unit is tight, it feels like a focusing ring should, nice and tight unlike the wobbly ring of the other one. When I focus rotate the focus ring on this one the image doesn't drift/move like the old one.

also the image is about abot 1/2" higher that the last one, at exactly the same position. any thoughts?
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post #1136 of 2178
12/24/12 at 12:43am
Prajem všetkým veselé vianoce


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post #1137 of 2178
12/24/12 at 3:00am
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Originally Posted by Sherazta View Post

Unfortunately the projector is not compatible with 3D converters. I have the VP3D1 and it is displaying the correct shuttered image but the projector will not allow me to enable the 3D option so the glasses can sync.
The same setup worked on my Qumi Q2
The main problem is, many of these cheap HD Pico projectors officially do not support 3D 1280x720@120hz through HDMI, example LG, Acer or Qumi. So, if you hook these projectors with a PC, it is very hard to achieve proper 3D 720p resolutions. Some third party controller can pass away this EDID limitation, and it can switch to 3D 720p, but it is depending which projector, firmware and which controller. At the moment, we have no information about anybody could achieve 3D 720p with a 3rd party controller on LG.

So, we have only one possibility to achieve 3D 720p with a 3rd party controller: HDMI - VGA converter. But LG PA70G accept: 720p@120 through VGA with CRT timings only.

So if your HDMI-VGA converter will convert HDMI signal with LCD timings, that will be puzzled. So, there is no warranty at the moment, which HDMI-VGA converter(chip) will work well.
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post #1138 of 2178
12/24/12 at 3:11am
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Originally Posted by Rugrash View Post

Yah, ask tataniko According to him....third party 3D controllers such Viewsonic or Optoma, it is possible to reach 720p@120hz, but it is probably fake or a trick, because limitation of HDMI and chipset there are not enough bandwidth, real and good timing for this resolution Absolutely ludicrous. The guy is a bafoon.

Some users have Viewsonic or Optoma HD pico projector, and they have many experience about that. It is great. But these companies offer 3D converters for their projectors usually, so these projectors can easily achieve 3D 720p.

But other projectors, like LG, Qumi or Acer have many issues in 3D, and sometimes, it is not to easy to achieve 3D 720p. So I'd like to ask again Viewsonic and Optoma men, please calm down their mind properly, and try to understand other people's problem. Also, I'd like to ask them, do not mix others with their different brand experience, and go back their thread and post there. Thanks.

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MERRY CHRISTMASS TO ALL


Edited by tataniko - 12/24/12 at 4:06am
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post #1139 of 2178
12/24/12 at 6:29am
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Originally Posted by tataniko View Post

Some users have Viewsonic or Optoma HD pico projector, and they have many experience about that. It is great. But these companies offer 3D converters for their projectors usually, so these projectors can easily achieve 3D 720p.
But other projectors, like LG, Qumi or Acer have many issues in 3D, and sometimes, it is not to easy to achieve 3D 720p. So I'd like to ask again Viewsonic and Optoma men, please calm down their mind properly, and try to understand other people's problem. Also, I'd like to ask them, do not mix others with their different brand experience, and go back their thread and post there. Thanks.
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MERRY CHRISTMASS TO ALL

You to and thanks the Q5 has no problem doing 720p 3D with Nvidia thanks to you and thanks for the memory file for
32 bit. I run 720p 60hz and switches to 720p 120 hz when 3d is activated. I leave it on IR all the time on the projector
and use TMT.
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post #1140 of 2178
12/24/12 at 6:44am
Removing the top cover on the LG PA70G http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smSQy5yDquk&feature=youtu.be
Maybe it will help someone.
A nice Christmas Eve I wish everyone.
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