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post #1231 of 2305
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Originally Posted by DaGamePimp View Post

It's a disposable projector as once the LED's are done it is likely to cost more to repair than replace but with any luck that would be many years for most considering the 30,000 hour LED rating (which if true it's highly unlikely the other components inside would last as long as the LED's).
in the HS201 thread people are reporting the green led died after 21/2-3 years, but hopefully the leds will last at least 5 years in the PA70G, by that time people will be looking to upgrade anyway.
post #1232 of 2305
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Originally Posted by DaGamePimp View Post

The beauty of the PA70G is that it is an HD LED based projector and can be operated as a daily use display (like an HDtv) with little concern for hours of use and no concern of future lamp expense.
It's a disposable projector as once the LED's are done it is likely to cost more to repair than replace but with any luck that would be many years for most considering the 30,000 hour LED rating (which if true it's highly unlikely the other components inside would last as long as the LED's).
My honest opinion is that it is absolutely worth the investment at $400 (Fry's deal) but at normal price ($800) it is not unless you require the LED based advantage of being able to use like a TV.

That was exactly my thought process when choosing the PA70G. It was low cost + LED vs. higher quality picture, but the downsides of current affordable LED PJs (i.e. lower lumen, cheap lenses and 720p) required the cost to be quite low to make it worth it to me. At the $400 I paid Fry's I have absolutely no buyer's remorse, it was a total steal. But at the $650 that Amazon wanted it was too close to the $699 the Viewsonic PRO8200 was selling for which beats the PA70G handily in most areas except LED convenience. I was THIS close to pulling the trigger on the PRO8200 but when Fry's lowered the price to $399 again I was sold. I must say that the instant on/off nature of this thing is quite intoxicating. It comes on quicker than my LCD TV and turns off literally instantly, no whirring fan for 5-10 minutes afterwards. I can turn it on and off repeatedly in quick succession without having to worry about the lamp, or can walk away from the running unit for extended periods without having to agonize over "wasted" lamp hours. Besides, unless you have another reference picture right next to it the eye quickly adapts and accepts the quality as good enough. I just finished watching the first two seasons of Falling Skies on Amazon Instant in HD, and the picture was simply superb. Taken on its own and letting yourself be immersed in the large picture makes you quickly forget all the bickering on this forum and you just enjoy the great picture to be had for such a ridiculously low price biggrin.gif

Uwe
post #1233 of 2305
Conclusion: At the moment, it is not too many peoples afraid about Racist post here, continuing the conversation with easy, as nothing had happened.

How can this be ? Is it 2012 ?

Everybody want to understand such a toy (LG PA70G), what collective knowledge of all human cultures and nations created by time in history, peoples are here from all the world and want to understand this miracle together by peace.

But some put proudly flag and gun on the table, and excommunicated others ! Are they crazy, this is reality here? Yes, it is. This is permitted here? Yes, it is.

I am asking then, what can foreign do here? Nothing, go home your stupid country and post by your stupid language there, this is a North American forum. And if they will change residence to North America? It is not enough, because their English are not correct.

Tataniko never and ever seen before this kind of mentality and attitude on other forums, only here. He stands here alone against a wall, purely created by proud human stupidity. But tataniko respectfully bows his head to the real and true North American man: Tatanka Yotanka (Sitting Bull). Thank you very much wise Sitting Bull, you given us the true spirit of North America in our dreams, respecting and loving all cultures and beings in this world.

Life's Good

post #1234 of 2305
tataniko, just give it a rest already! I speak four languages plus one dialect myself, English isn't my native tongue. I have lived on three continents and experienced quite a few cultures and the same goes for my wife. But none of that is relevant when talking about the LG PA70G, so when I come here I stick to the topic and do so in English and don't consider myself oppressed for doing so. The PA70G contributions you have provided have at times been actually useful to people, so thanks for that. The rest of your quasi existential diatribes, translated into occasionally comical but otherwise mostly tedious English have been less so. It's bad enough that these threads grow to dozens of pages for popular products and the forum search tools are generally crap for more sophisticated searches, please let's not add to the tedium with large irrelevant posts.

Peace out!
post #1235 of 2305
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Originally Posted by uwradu View Post

That was exactly my thought process when choosing the PA70G. It was low cost + LED vs. higher quality picture, but the downsides of current affordable LED PJs (i.e. lower lumen, cheap lenses and 720p) required the cost to be quite low to make it worth it to me. At the $400 I paid Fry's I have absolutely no buyer's remorse, it was a total steal. But at the $650 that Amazon wanted it was too close to the $699 the Viewsonic PRO8200 was selling for which beats the PA70G handily in most areas except LED convenience. I was THIS close to pulling the trigger on the PRO8200 but when Fry's lowered the price to $399 again I was sold. I must say that the instant on/off nature of this thing is quite intoxicating. It comes on quicker than my LCD TV and turns off literally instantly, no whirring fan for 5-10 minutes afterwards. I can turn it on and off repeatedly in quick succession without having to worry about the lamp, or can walk away from the running unit for extended periods without having to agonize over "wasted" lamp hours. Besides, unless you have another reference picture right next to it the eye quickly adapts and accepts the quality as good enough. I just finished watching the first two seasons of Falling Skies on Amazon Instant in HD, and the picture was simply superb. Taken on its own and letting yourself be immersed in the large picture makes you quickly forget all the bickering on this forum and you just enjoy the great picture to be had for such a ridiculously low price biggrin.gif
Uwe

Preach on uwradu! smile.gif I completely agree with everything you said!
post #1236 of 2305
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Originally Posted by uwradu View Post

..let's not add to the tedium with large irrelevant posts.
Hi, welcome from Malta, I just bought tataniko's stuff, and I just use his account now. He just told me you can help me. My grand is original from North America, I born here, my English is weak, I am sorry for that. I want 3d, games, films and many things. I am little bit confused, tataniko mixed me well about 3d, and I just paid 700 euro to him. worth it? any help appreciated. thanks


updated tataniko by himself:
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Originally Posted by uwradu View Post

..I speak four languages plus one dialect myself..
It's irrelevant, only one language exists, humanity. You must learn that.
Edited by tataniko - 12/28/12 at 10:12am
post #1237 of 2305
Jason,

That is where you are wrong I too owned the sharp 1200mkll for about 5 minutes. I admit I am using a Uh480
scope setup but your statement is just plain false that the floor gets wiped. 133" screen I am talking
about not some 60 or 100 screen. I sell the vivitek 5085 and it does not wipe the floor with the Q5 side by side. Keep
telling yourself that the difference is that great in the end it's only Video!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and we are flipping coins.
Enough said.
post #1238 of 2305
The main problem is no forward step here:

tataniko got 3D 720p in VGA but not in HDMI,
Honzik1 accessed service menu, but not tweaked,
Pawel started lens and 75C conversion, but stopped,
Bony dissembled, but not fully.

Thanks for them and others, but more help need. We must do service menu tweaking, good tutorial for lens fixing, firmware hack for 3D 720p HDMI, lens and 75C unit conversion and full disassembled pictures. All project stopped at the moment.




tataniko fully disassembled Acer K330 and tweaked service menu in past and post it for community.
post #1239 of 2305
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Originally Posted by tataniko View Post

Hi, welcome from Malta, I just bought tataniko's stuff, and I just use his account now.

[...]

updated tataniko by himself:
It's irrelevant, only one language exists, humanity. You must learn that.

Mate, you have serious issues! You must be making some therapist very, very happy...
post #1240 of 2305
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Originally Posted by uwradu View Post

Mate, you have serious issues! You must be making some therapist very, very happy...
Read back, we are just finished this kind of 3D game and communication with Rugrass before (stupid, idiot, special, etc). Try to learn another language, friendship. thanks.

Update:
Bony my Slovak friend, come back this forum, and drink together Borovička. Don't bother yourself because some rude man here, your attitude and job is very good. These rude peoples have only American passport and accent but nothing else, but you have a big American heart in a North American forum. It's unique, come back my friend.
Edited by tataniko - 12/28/12 at 12:47pm
post #1241 of 2305
I did not go anywhere .. I just quietly read and not write anything ..
Who do I look for a translation ?My friends and relatives do not speak English .
And I will still write wife's family in america that we translate my posts ?Yet I will not bother anyone at the other end of the globe .
I found a new translator so I wonder what crap again translated .. biggrin.gif


EDIT:
uwradu-if you prefer dedicated projector like me so you do lies .I'll probably have to get used to and some people on this board to ignore.
I like friendship , but not voluntary unless something is needed from the other.
I help you and share with others if I can .Just let's not aggressive to each other .To prevail pride mind and heart.
No problem .. We all make some .
Edited by bony - 12/28/12 at 1:32pm
post #1242 of 2305
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Originally Posted by bony View Post

Who do I look for a translation?

In my experience from when I was first learning English it's best to try to not be too ambitious with your sentences. Keep them short and simple, one thought per sentence. That also works best with Google Translate and similar services, they do a lot better with short sentences with simple grammar. Write the text in your native language like you're writing to a six year old, that will translate the best.

Just my two cents...
post #1243 of 2305
Ok can we all get back on topic now.....

Anyone expecting a new under 3k led from LG at CES this year?
post #1244 of 2305
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Originally Posted by Amber Ale View Post

Ok can we all get back on topic now.....
Anyone expecting a new under 3k led from LG at CES this year?

LOL, how exactly is speculation about future products on topic for this thread? Honestly though, for me at least the addition of 1080p and a better lens with a zoom would make this unit just about perfect. Of course, WiDi or similar wireless support would be nice but not critical since we will always have to run power to the projector anyway. They could also add in WiFi for a couple of bucks along with DLNA support. Actually, an even cheaper alternative for them would be to just support a WiFi dongle and add in the necessary streaming software, since the firmware appears to be Linux based. In fact this may even be hackable by the community if someone obtained a dump of the ROM. Perhaps we could get the Cyanogenmod folks interested in the PA70G biggrin.gif
post #1245 of 2305
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Originally Posted by Roger Lococco View Post

in the HS201 thread people are reporting the green led died after 21/2-3 years, but hopefully the leds will last at least 5 years in the PA70G, by that time people will be looking to upgrade anyway.

Well that's a bummer, let's hope the newer LED's in the PA70G have a bit more life in them.


Quote:
Originally Posted by uwradu View Post

That was exactly my thought process when choosing the PA70G. It was low cost + LED vs. higher quality picture, but the downsides of current affordable LED PJs (i.e. lower lumen, cheap lenses and 720p) required the cost to be quite low to make it worth it to me. At the $400 I paid Fry's I have absolutely no buyer's remorse, it was a total steal. But at the $650 that Amazon wanted it was too close to the $699 the Viewsonic PRO8200 was selling for which beats the PA70G handily in most areas except LED convenience. I was THIS close to pulling the trigger on the PRO8200 but when Fry's lowered the price to $399 again I was sold. I must say that the instant on/off nature of this thing is quite intoxicating. It comes on quicker than my LCD TV and turns off literally instantly, no whirring fan for 5-10 minutes afterwards. I can turn it on and off repeatedly in quick succession without having to worry about the lamp, or can walk away from the running unit for extended periods without having to agonize over "wasted" lamp hours. Besides, unless you have another reference picture right next to it the eye quickly adapts and accepts the quality as good enough. I just finished watching the first two seasons of Falling Skies on Amazon Instant in HD, and the picture was simply superb. Taken on its own and letting yourself be immersed in the large picture makes you quickly forget all the bickering on this forum and you just enjoy the great picture to be had for such a ridiculously low price biggrin.gif
Uwe

Bingo!


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Originally Posted by uwradu View Post

tataniko, just give it a rest already! I speak four languages plus one dialect myself, English isn't my native tongue. I have lived on three continents and experienced quite a few cultures and the same goes for my wife. But none of that is relevant when talking about the LG PA70G, so when I come here I stick to the topic and do so in English and don't consider myself oppressed for doing so. The PA70G contributions you have provided have at times been actually useful to people, so thanks for that. The rest of your quasi existential diatribes, translated into occasionally comical but otherwise mostly tedious English have been less so. It's bad enough that these threads grow to dozens of pages for popular products and the forum search tools are generally crap for more sophisticated searches, please let's not add to the tedium with large irrelevant posts.
Peace out!

+1
... and again I will say IT IS NO FAULT OF OUR FOREIGN BROTHERS, it makes no difference what country you are from, we are all equal, this has nothing to do with racism or predjudice!!! This is a North American forum where English is the primary language and if the Translation software cannot function well enough for the majority on this board to understand then I fail to see the point in continuing to post. Please apply some common sense and logic here guys. wink.gif



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Originally Posted by greg1292 View Post

Jason,
That is where you are wrong I too owned the sharp 1200mkll for about 5 minutes. I admit I am using a Uh480
scope setup but your statement is just plain false that the floor gets wiped. 133" screen I am talking
about not some 60 or 100 screen. I sell the vivitek 5085 and it does not wipe the floor with the Q5 side by side. Keep
telling yourself that the difference is that great in the end it's only Video!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and we are flipping coins.
Enough said.

Greg,

No reason to get upset here, your defensive reply speaks volumes as to your reasoning and it is obvious to me that you are convincing yourself that what you own is better than other units based upon your own personal preferences. Now this is certainly your right to do so and we all have a right to our own opinion but when you post something like one of these inexpensive LED units besting high performace home theater projectors you should expect some feedback. I have been doing front projection for about 12 years and have seen well over 100 different projectors of various tech and owned over a dozen myself (across all the various techs). I am not 'telling myself' anything and I am not one to use purchase justification in my opinions, if you knew my post history you would know that I am very honest and always call it as I see it (no smoke no mirrors).

Owning a 12k mkII for 5 minutes hardly gives you an actual representation of what it can do, unless of course it was properly set-up and calibrated in an ideal room in those 5 minutes. I have done just that (owned one for over 2 years) and can say with 100% honesty that none of these 1280x800 LED projectors would compete other than calibrated lumen output (which is very low on the 12K mkII and 12s4).

Now with that said it is certainly possible that the anamorphic lens you are using is somehow altering the Q5's image in a way that just happens to please your personal preference. This is great and I am certainly not implying that you should not be enjoying your Q5 but this also does not make the Q5 better than an RS2 just because that happens to be your preference (and I am not a huge fan of JVC projectors so not defending them at all, again just being honest).




Now let's get the thread back on topic and stop all this OT nonsense, please! smile.gif

Jason
post #1246 of 2305
Here's a slightly different POV. I also own the Sharp 1200mkll (though I haven't used it in awhile since it's been in need of a new $400+ bulb). I totally agree that the Sharp has a superior cinematic picture quality to the PA70g. HOWEVER, the fact that I have to feed it $400+ per year in new bulbs, the thing's louder than a Hoover AND that the LG is more portable, brighter and versatile projector has me using the LG in place of the Sharp anyway.

Kind of like when CD's replaced vinyl. Yes the sound quality wasn't as rich, but doing without all the crackles, dust cleaning, portability etc in most cases made digital music the preferred technology. Again, even though it was a step down in absolute sound quality.

However with the advances of LED technology, the writing's on the wall for older bulb technology. Just like audiophiles cling to vinyl still, Videophiles will cling to the bulb technology for years to come for the absolute best quality as a hobby - but long after most people have moved on to a more practical technology.
Edited by HTCrazy - 12/28/12 at 3:03pm
post #1247 of 2305
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Originally Posted by Sherazta View Post

so i can confirm that using the vp3d1 and a hdmi to vga converter will not work to display 3D. I get an invalid format when playing 3D movies. so we have to keep trying for 3D with a ps3

Which HDMI to VGA converter did you use? Since it works on all of the other projectors, I'm suprised that you were not successful.

You did use one that HDMI 1.3 compliant and that strips HDCP right? Like the one I linked.

http://www.amazon.com/ViewHD-Digital-Stereo-Analog-Converter/dp/B0080D3Z24/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&qid=1356737741&sr=8-12&keywords=hdmi+to+vga+converter

in the product description "Support HDMI 1.3 and HDCP "
post #1248 of 2305
I tried the 3D setup with the sabrent hdmi to vga converter.

http://www.sabrent.com/category/tv-video-capture/DA-HDVG/

I did a display scan on the ps3 and it detected the viewsonic vp3d1 which enables the 3D option in the PS3.

when i pop in a 3D bluray the projector displays a blue screen with.the message stating invalid format.
post #1249 of 2305
I think since the converter box that i picked up doesnt have an adjustable output selection, it didnt allow me to adjust the resolution.

I think this one may be better

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0080DJ5HS/ref=aw_d_detail?pd=1
post #1250 of 2305
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Originally Posted by DaGamePimp View Post

... and again I will say IT IS NO FAULT OF OUR FOREIGN BROTHERS, it makes no difference what country you are from, we are all equal, this has nothing to do with racism or predjudice..
This is your mind summary: " I'm innocent, I did not want to do anything wrong. "
No Jason!

Firstly: You must assume the responsibility for your mind, acts and posts, but you can not !
Secondly: You started racist tone post firstly here !
Thirdly: You should have to say, I am sorry for my insult and arrogance to foreign brothers.

Fourthly: My wife is also Hungarian, so we should be a real brother, but you couldn't !
*I'd like to understand her as others.

Fifthly: You should have to say thank you for tataniko.
*He post and shared details about your Hungarian wife's cultural, language and scientist background for you.

Sixthly: You did not make nothing from above things.
Seventhly: Now, if you say thanks, friendship or sorry, it's too late, because tataniko said to you.

Eighthly: So, you should change something in your attitude or life, because at the moment, your mind is not different from breivik mass murder.

Ninths...breivik or Jason post here...

Sorry my friend, this is the truth and you have face of your act. I don't want to be rude, and should moderate or ban me, but this is my summary of your mind. Sorry for your mind, and please meditate, think a bit and try to understand something real important wise thing in your mind, and your wife can help you sure, until do not post . Good luck my friend.
post #1251 of 2305
Off: The knowledge, wisdom and love are always the best against stupidity or racism.

Here is 1000 years history of Europe in 5 minutes video. Enjoy.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eQ42KbVBAM
post #1252 of 2305
Nailed it on the head, the guy has issues as well as being an idiot.

For those that do not like using e-bay. Newegg also offer some cheap DLP Link glasses. No idea how good they are.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824984005
post #1253 of 2305
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Originally Posted by Rugrash View Post

Nailed it on the head, the guy has issues as well as being an idiot.
Thanks for your warm inviting to play again same cooperative 3D game, but unfortunately I never play again same game, only once, not more. I have not interesting same game play, but if you have different one, do it. Also, please check my new post on Acer K330 thread, is it good or not. Thanks anyway.

The story:
I meet long time ago a wise man, and talked about many things.
He asked me, do you like The Lord of Rings?
Yes, I do, it is the best !
He said LOTR is one of the best popular films in the world, but has a very serious issue.
What issue, I asked?
It's racist.
Racist ?? Why ?
Because all Orcs are bad in the story, and must kill all of them. This is the racism, and all the people in the world like it at the moment.
There is no really one good Orcs in the book?- I asked.
No. Must kill all Orcs, that is the problem with Tolkien's mind.
That's really very serious issue, thank you very much this important knowledge it's cleared my mind. - I answered.
Edited by tataniko - 12/29/12 at 10:27am
post #1254 of 2305
For the speculation part, LG has released the the LGPA75K which is this model of the projector with an ATSC tuner, and a 15,000 contrast ratio, however it remains 1200 x 800 720p with 700 lumens, and is 6x times the price of the Fry's special.
LOL

I've seen a few AVS members mod their LGPA70gs with tv tuners via soldering, should be no big deal, I have no idea if the lens issue plagues these 75ks.

Link to purchase: http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-LG-PA75K-700-Ansi-Lumens-LED-HD-Smart-TV-Wifi-WXGA-DLP-Mini-Beam-Projector-/150912275217

Performance video: http://blog.daum.net/_blog/BlogTypeView.do?blogid=0HlVl&articleno=542694&categoryId=31221&regdt=20120809185852#ajax_history_home

It uses North-American refresh rates and electrical frequencies, just like the rest of South-Korea.
post #1255 of 2305
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Originally Posted by Bejita View Post

For the speculation part, LG has released the the LGPA75K which is this model of the projector with an ATSC tuner, and a 15,000 contrast ratio, however it remains 1200 x 800 720p with 700 lumens, and is 6x times the price of the Fry's special.
LOL
I've seen a few AVS members mod their LGPA70gs with tv tuners via soldering, should be no big deal, I have no idea if the lens issue plagues these 75ks.
.

I know one poster talked about possibly soldering in a tuner. But I have yet to see any comfirmation of a poster soldering in a tuner, let alone getting it to work.

Could you please link the posts?
post #1256 of 2305
Hi, I am new here & just got my PA70G projector having same focus problem. I was wondering if you can tell me in detail how you fixed this issue, i mean which screws, which way to move optical assembly.
Thanks
post #1257 of 2305
Hi, I am new here & just got my PA70G projector having same focus problem. I was wondering if you can tell me in detail how you fixed this issue, i mean which screws, which way to move optical assembly.
Thanks
post #1258 of 2305
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Originally Posted by diamond2583 View Post

Hi, I am new here & just got my PA70G projector having same focus problem. I was wondering if you can tell me in detail how you fixed this issue, i mean which screws, which way to move optical assembly.
Thanks
Welcome here, this is a very strong thread, please remove your last post, it's doubled.
Read back, there are many pictures for lens fixing.
post #1259 of 2305
It must be dismantled , and he understands what needs to be done .

Here's some photos with a description of the Slovak language http://chomikuj.pl/kudma611/LG+PA70G/Demont*c3*a1*c5*be+vrchn*c3*a9ho+krytu
Video removing the top cover of the projector http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smSQy5yDquk;feature=channel&list=UL
Rest in a search earlier posts.
post #1260 of 2305
I am financially challenged now since I am still trying to get my car fixed.
But at this point in time the LG PA70G offers the best " Total " affordable package on the market as far as DLP LED projectors go.
Hopefully the waiting will be blessing since a new round of new projectors will be coming out next year.
That $ 699 for a LG PA70 G at amazon ? I would wait for FRYS to offer another sale again at $ 399.
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