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post #1471 of 2305
Ok, i see in the link to LG that was just given, both the 70g firmware and the PA75C-JE. So maybe if we load the 75c on the 70g, that might work, it would give smart apps and tv tuner options and has wifi included.
Not sure how to load the firmware or if it is wise. I did download both firmware.

Wow, the 75c has tons of programs in it, all in little zip files, lots of linux stuff I recognize. It would be nice to get the hacker community to help us. Who knows what goodies we could add to the 70G. smile.gif
post #1472 of 2305
There is no software image of our projector packages are the only source codes, and one is Linux kernel containing drivers, and libraries, and other programs that make up the basis for Linux, you will need to run on our projector, but not exactly ready for flashing, image file. This file has an extension (. EPK). you need to be a good programmer from these source codes, put together the software.
I have a package to PA70G and PA75K but few understand what smile.gif except that the sources are there.
PA70G no Internet Service menu, so even if PA70G, WiFi dongle will recognize this, and so do not you can use it because there is no interface, the software which will allow you to network configurations and even more so, to use it for any purpose.

So LG Until You will not be updated to version PA70G network of support, none of teho WIFI will not, and I doubt the LG with his politics is so willing to give for free, the functions of the projector, since they can make money selling your new model.

I have a Galaxy S2 but I have software with the Galaxy S3, and I do not have to exchange the phone to enjoy the features it has a new model.

LG is greedy for money smile.gif and waiting until you buy a new projector.


smile.gif 75C is interesting because it has support for DLNA, but just from where to take smile.gif flash image. Sources are for different processors, based on the LC1 our need to get information from the image of the service menu, with PA75C and PA75K as well as pictures of motherboards to compare differences in these models. Who knows smile.gif for some Korean with a screwdriver? : D

This will be a 100% Wifi module that fits into the slot in the housing PA70G, but there is no where to connect.
CREATOR: gd-jpeg v1.0 (using IJG JPEG v62), quality = 90


the motherboard is a socket for debugging! Often used in the phone to USB debugging, I'm wondering whether or not you can use it as a USB jack smile.gif
Edited by Pawel Dubiel - 1/22/13 at 12:03pm
post #1473 of 2305
LGE Open Source Software Notice
Product Type Projector
Model Number/Range PA75K-JE, PA75C-JE, SA565-JP, HA85K-JE
Those products identified by the Product Type and Model Range above from LG Electronics, Inc.
("LGE") contain the open source software detailed below. Please refer to the indicated open
source licences (as are included following this notice) for the terms and conditions of their use.
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Licence
Linux Kernel, busybox, devicemapper, gphoto, GPL 2.0
fuse, jfsutils, mtd-utils, ntpclient, e2fsprogs,
libtool, syslog, uboot
GNetwork, gst-plugins-bad, gst-plugins-base, LGPL 2.0
gst-plugins-good, gdk-pixbuf
alsa-lib, atk, DirectFB, ffmepg, gail, glib, LGPL 2.1
gnuTLS, gst-plugins-ugly, gstreamer, imhangul,
libc, libgcrypt, libhangul , libgpg-error, libmms,
libsoup, libexif, libintl, libiconv, libltdl, Nokia QT
SDK, log4c, GTK+, pango, PyEnchant, webkit
cairo, tamrin-initial, MPL 1.1
Mozilla filrefox
nano
x,
XULRunner,
Galois Field Arithmetic CPL
gSOAP gSOAP license
wxWidgets wxWindows Library License
The source code for the above may be obtained free of charge from LGE at




ehhh you take the Bible for Linux. : D I'm too old for science heheheh
Edited by Pawel Dubiel - 1/22/13 at 12:17pm
post #1474 of 2305
Hopefully if we do get the image (EPK) someone can update the image to include the items the users are looking for.

Hell, I will pitch in some cash if someone can get the projector to recongize 3D over hdmi using the VP3D1.
post #1475 of 2305
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Originally Posted by David44 View Post

Has anyone been able to measure the actual lumen output on the PA70g vs. the list of 700 lumens?
Just trying to compare the LG to the Acer K750, and smaller LED's in general.

Testing on projectorreviews.com for the ML500 and K330, showed lumens are roughly 60% of list of 500 lumens (~300) in Movie/Cinema modes on those LED models. Meanwhile the K750, which is listed at 1500 lumens, registered from 600 to 990 in a French review (or 40-65% of list).

The K750 is 1080p but more expensive and given the numbers above, I'm not sure the value is there.

Thanks!

**edit for percentages - had them backwards!

I'll add the LUX readings for each mode to my tasks when I calibrate and do the Lag test.

With any luck I'll be able to get these done this coming weekend. wink.gif

Jason
post #1476 of 2305
so the PA75C is china, the PA70K is Korea, the PA75U should be coming to the US anytime now, right??
post #1477 of 2305
Choices Choices what to do cool.gif

Pawel ? for us here in the US do you think that the LG PA70 U would be worth or justify the $$$ 200 difference in price over the LG PA 70 G if we get the LG PA 70 G at Frys on sale ?

Other than the built in TV tuner is it worth the extra $$$ 200 ? yes ? or no ? confused.gif

I can get a cheap HD USB TV tuner for the computer and plug it into my computer and run the TV signal via HDMI to my LG HX 300 or if I do get the LA PA 70 G ?

Yes Pawel, I still have my LG HX300.

LG means ? Life is good or even better if LG gives me a projector for free tongue.gif:D
post #1478 of 2305
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Originally Posted by DLPProjectorfan View Post

Choices Choices what to do cool.gif

Pawel ? for us here in the US do you think that the LG PA70 U would be worth or justify the $$$ 200 difference in price over the LG PA 70 G if we get the LG PA 70 G at Frys on sale ?

Other than the built in TV tuner is it worth the extra $$$ 200 ? yes ? or no ? confused.gif

I can get a cheap HD USB TV tuner for the computer and plug it into my computer and run the TV signal via HDMI to my LG HX 300 or if I do get the LA PA 70 G ?

Yes Pawel, I still have my LG HX300.

LG means ? Life is good or even better if LG gives me a projector for free tongue.gif:D

If PA75U or PA75G if only it was for sale at the end of the year the price $ 100 higher than the current price PA70G I think that it was OK but that the current price PA75K, is absurd. : D
post #1479 of 2305
The night came to my mind one idea biggrin.gif, I could not sleep biggrin.gif. Namely, since the PA70 runs on Linux and most of the equipment in the world smile.gif, and is in the kernel drivers for the keyboard and mouse, because it is the foundation smile.gif and if the USB port is able to recognize the keyboard, the PA75K certainly work. It's worth it to check whether it is possible to run the terminal, smile.gif and check the level of what and how. If it does not, the source code (written in a language understood by the people) need to compile (the language understood by the machine) and it is usually done in the system, so as to compile the source of outside PA70G?
post #1480 of 2305
it is reported that there is kind of a whistle sound in all three lamp modes. so i would like to know from all of you owners

a) is this whistle thing present on your unit?
b) how disturbing is it for you?

Then theres this thing with the max picture size.

Do all units have the same small focus range? Or did they fix it with the latest batch together with the uneven focus issue?

Finally how bad is the rbe, especially compared to the 500lm clones and the hw300 (all of them have nearly non-noticeable rbe for me)?

If every owner give short answer to the questions, still interest potential buyers like me get an better image of the device.

thx2all
Edited by travis_bickle - 1/23/13 at 12:11pm
post #1481 of 2305
Quote:
Originally Posted by travis_bickle View Post

it is reported that there is kind of a whistle sound in all three lamp modes. so i would like to know from all of you owners

a) is this whistle thing present on your unit?
b) how disturbing is it for you?

Then theres this thing with the max picture size.

Do all units have the same small focus range? Or did they fix it with the latest batch together with the uneven focus issue?

Finally how bad is the rbe, especially compared to the 500lm clones and the hw300 (all of them have nearly non-noticeable rbe for me)?

If every owner give short answer to the questions, still interest potential buyers like me get an better image of the device.

thx2all

What whistle noise, I don't hear anything like that at all. If we did, we probably would have returned it, I would hope.

Yeah, it seems the focus wheel range on some units was limited, meaning it would go to about 80 inch picture and not be able to turn the focus wheel anymore. My first unit had that problem, but the replacement has perfect focus on whole screen top to bottom, left to right, and I can get hugh screen sizes and focus wheel works perfectly.

Now, there is a louder fan noise on high, but it doesn't bother me at all, that cools down the unit, which is good. But 99 percent of the time I'm using medium and low lamp settings where I don't hear anything. Super quiet for me.

No RBE for me at all.

I'm thinking if you get a brand new unit from Fry's you will get a very NEW build date, and have better chance of getting good unit. But there is still a chance you will get a unit that doesn't have good uniform focus or focus wheel problem, but I think LG is aware of the problem, with all the returns that have received, I would think.

If you are in USA, the main advantage of LG PA70G over the other clones is that it is 700 lumens, comes with 2 full YEAR warranty, has excellent media center built into unit, has awesome internal speakers 6 watt total that can fill a small room, and has excellent contrast ratio 15,000:1. If you get a focused unit, you hit the jackpot at 399 dollars when on sale. smile.gif
post #1482 of 2305
Quote:
Originally Posted by travis_bickle View Post

it is reported that there is kind of a whistle sound in all three lamp modes. so i would like to know from all of you owners

a) is this whistle thing present on your unit?
b) how disturbing is it for you?

Then theres this thing with the max picture size.

Do all units have the same small focus range? Or did they fix it with the latest batch together with the uneven focus issue?

Finally how bad is the rbe, especially compared to the 500lm clones and the hw300 (all of them have nearly non-noticeable rbe for me)?

If every owner give short answer to the questions, still interest potential buyers like me get an better image of the device.

thx2all


smile.gif We all still are afraid rainbow effect, going down this myth, the DLP rainbow effect, caused the filter wheel with colored lenses. The LED projector is not no such thing, so there is no rainbow effect.

Sound of a whistle? msyel with what it screams, coming from the coils in power systems, LEDs, a power pulse, so it generates a buzzing sounds. It's a normal thing, especially changing the white balance, changing the intensity of the different colors of the three LEDs, which reflects the high power consumption, perhaps they could choose a better coil ferrite, but also have limited space inside the projector.
post #1483 of 2305
@rgtaa

its good to know. i want to throw about roughly 9ft in width. can you get the focus blurry in both spinning directions or does it stop in one direction and stays focused unrelated to distance like mentioned earlier in this thread?
i live in germany. so theres even a 3 year warranty but in return it is a lot pricier (600€=800$).

@pawel
theres still a rainbow effect. youre right it is not caused by a color wheel. instead the cycle timings of the leds are crucial. if they are to slow you get rainbows. if i have concentrated on it i was able to see it. but it was nothing too disturbing. so if rgtaa states he see no rainbow i assume the cycle times are about the same as in other led projectors.
the whistle sound is reported from a customer on amazon germany. all other led projectors i saw or had where whistle free^^. so it shouldnt be a normal thing.


so all in all i very much tend to give it try. theres no risk because of 2 week full refund possibility, but you know all the hastle and so on.
theres a great german webpage with in depth reviews, which announced to review the widi versions soon. i wait for the hopefully positive results. but in the meantime i would really like to hear even more reports from owners about my concerns.
post #1484 of 2305
No whistle noise here but the fans do ramp up on Minimum Energy Saving mode (as mentioned). I usually use this mode and with the PA70G about 4' above my head on the ceiling I am not the least bit bothered by it (especially with all other gear running). I have heard and owned many projectors that are louder than the PA70G so I would not call it a loud unit by any means. It's likely that a single person claiming a whistle noise is simply someone that has not owned a projector before and expected it to be nearly silent. Also keep in mind the noise can sound different in various environments/rooms due to reflections and we all hear a bit different as well.

My wife is only slightly sensitive but said she was seeing RBE on our Mitsubishi HC3800 every once in a while but does not see it at all on the PA70G.

A friend of mine that is more RBE sensitive and could not watch some of my previous DLP's watched the PA70G and said he saw no RBE.

Regarding the focal issue... it has been stated many times already that there are solid units out there and it is luck of the draw. If needed keep exchanging until you get a good unit (if you truly want to own this model). This is nothing new or specific to this model, I have had many projector purchases that required multiple exchanges before getting a unit that satisfied me and all of those were more expensive than the PA70G. As a matter of fact I can only think of two instances where I was happy with the initial unit. My cousin has exchanged 7-8 Epson's over the last year between 3 models (3010, 5010, 5020) and I went through 3 HC3000's and 5 HC3800's before landing on solid units. Sorry to say this is the status of front projection and if you are a picky consumer (I am) then you should go in with the expectation that some exchanges may be required (never expect to get a 100% unit on the first try, if you do then that's fantastic, just don't expect it wink.gif).

Jason
post #1485 of 2305
I would go on to say that anyone thinking about buying the LG PA70 G should call FRYS and insist that they at least look at the box lable and see if it's a later build date and asked them and insist that they send you a later build LG PA70G.

Anyone want to guess if the December build production models would be on the selves by now ? or even early January built models ?
post #1486 of 2305
Pawel ? The LGPA70G projector reminds me of the problems that they had with the Hubble Telescope and they had to spend $$$$ Billions and a trip 250 miles above to fix it.

It still would be interesting if I had more money to waste or to experiment with and take old lens from old DLP bulb based projectors and see if it can be hacked to make it work to get the LGPA70G to have a zoom lens and better glass optical lens.cool.gif
post #1487 of 2305
The $ 399 is the best part, less pain
post #1488 of 2305
The older DLP projectors with the infamous colorwheel suffer mostly from the rainbow effect.

It was the slower speed colorwheels that had the most problems with the RBE.

Another good thing about the LED projectors is not only you won't have to worry about buying a expensive bulb but also the colorwheels in the old DLP projectors were not cheap either.

In the LED projectors owners won't have to worry about the bearings going bad or the colorwheel shattering.

Another plus is as in the old DLP projectors with a colorwheel you could not set the projectors at certain angles, it was either the projector could be set upside down or right side up.

With the LED projectors ? you can have the projector set at any angle you want and it won't have ill effects on the projector.

No more sounds of a mini jet engine sound when the colorwheel spools up.
post #1489 of 2305
Quote:
Originally Posted by travis_bickle View Post

i live in germany. so theres even a 3 year warranty but in return it is a lot pricier (600€=800$).

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http://www.edigital.sk/Projektory/LG_PA70G_LED_Projektor-p327277.html?bid=&partner=20008
http://www.edigital.cz/Projektory/LG_PA70G_LED_Projektor-p327277.html?bid=&partner=20008
post #1490 of 2305
Quote:
Originally Posted by DLPProjectorfan View Post

Pawel ? The LGPA70G projector reminds me of the problems that they had with the Hubble Telescope and they had to spend $$$$ Billions and a trip 250 miles above to fix it.

It still would be interesting if I had more money to waste or to experiment with and take old lens from old DLP bulb based projectors and see if it can be hacked to make it work to get the LGPA70G to have a zoom lens and better glass optical lens.cool.gif

smile.gif After the warranty unless you sell my PA .. it will do, exchange obiekywna bigger and get over prisms smile.gif kinda far begins to interest me, 3D printing, I would like to build such a printer, Print-out of the plastic strands on the reels, you can for example with ABS, perform the own enclosure, and if you holding elements mirrors and other necessary to rebuild, track light.
I think that if I bought a damaged HX300G, then I would use, the DMD body and lens but I would have to connect to the LED and the rest of the group PA70G smile.gif. At work I have demolished the old NEC projector, the lamp with a big obietywem. smile.gif And also to continue, the problem is that it requires a greater distance to get an image 100 "


Yesterday I sent a request for firmware updates. Here's how I got the answer today!


Dear Pawel Dubiel,



“We received your request on LG Open Source Code Distribution site( http://opensource.lge.com ).




This site is just for providing source codes of FOSS(Free and Open Source Software) we have used in our product.”



Software update of PA70G is scheduled in this month. However, the schedule can be changed for the internal affairs.

For more information or technical issue about this, please contact on your local LGE support homepage or customer centers by below address.

If you select your region, you could contact local customer center.




Now, I sent a query to the LG Poland, and waiting for a response regarding the possibility of updating the software in PA70G, since those posted with this month is to be smile.gif I think that it will not be empty talking smile.gif.

smile.gif I do not, I start uranium enrichment smile.gifbiggrin.gif joking
Edited by Pawel Dubiel - 1/24/13 at 6:20am
post #1491 of 2305

Beautiful price, ehhh smile.gif

Piekna cena , ehhh smile.gif

Kurde, ze tez sie pospieszylem z kupnem biggrin.gif
post #1492 of 2305
So there is a possibility that there will be a firmware update within a month or so? That is good news. Interesting if they add NEW features , but more likely it will just contain bug fixes.

It would be nice if they included a wifi feature so we could plug in wifi sticks into the usb port, but I'm not expecting it. But if they did, that would add more value to the PJ.

Also, if they have a firmware update, we can see how the package looks and then really could hack the pa70g, since we would have a delivery system.
post #1493 of 2305
travis_bickle
Read post #954 page 32, if you are susceptible to RBE.
post #1494 of 2305
Quote:
Originally Posted by DLPProjectorfan View Post

I would go on to say that anyone thinking about buying the LG PA70 G should call FRYS and insist that they at least look at the box lable and see if it's a later build date and asked them and insist that they send you a later build LG PA70G.

Anyone want to guess if the December build production models would be on the selves by now ? or even early January built models ?

the label on the box doesn't show build date, only build date is on the projector itself, so you'd have to open the box
post #1495 of 2305
Yesterday I got this update when I checked with them regarding the firmware update. But I do not know what they will do in the firmware update. Do any one know this ?

Dear Senthilkumar Rajendran,

“We received your request on LG Open Source Code Distribution site( http://opensource.lge.com ).
This site is just for providing source codes of FOSS(Free and Open Source Software) we have used in our product.”

Software update of PA70G is scheduled in this month and you might get an upgrade at customer service center.
For more information about this, please contact on your local LGE support homepage or customer centers by below address.
If you select your region, you could contact local customer center.
http://www.lg.com/common/index.jsp

Thank you.
Sincerely yours,
post #1496 of 2305
Quote:
Originally Posted by skrajend View Post

Yesterday I got this update when I checked with them regarding the firmware update. But I do not know what they will do in the firmware update. Do any one know this ?

Dear Senthilkumar Rajendran,

“We received your request on LG Open Source Code Distribution site( http://opensource.lge.com ).
This site is just for providing source codes of FOSS(Free and Open Source Software) we have used in our product.”

Software update of PA70G is scheduled in this month and you might get an upgrade at customer service center.
For more information about this, please contact on your local LGE support homepage or customer centers by below address.
If you select your region, you could contact local customer center.
http://www.lg.com/common/index.jsp

Thank you.
Sincerely yours,


This website is for programmers and if someone wants to get the hack, so there will not get the update. You posted it just like me to ask you to update LG branch in your country, they used to occupy open source code distribution, the files will get packages in the human language, not the installation file from machine language. So go to your country's LG and ask there for updates, which is to be this month.
post #1497 of 2305
Quote:
Originally Posted by garibay_2004 View Post

the label on the box doesn't show build date, only build date is on the projector itself, so you'd have to open the box


Garibay!

Your day finally arrived! smile.gif

Your 61 is on sale for 399 on fry's! Starting today!
Edited by rgtaa - 1/25/13 at 1:29pm
post #1498 of 2305
Ha, was just coming in to post about the PB61u being on sale and it looks like rgtaa beat me to it...

http://www.frys.com/product/7509106?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG

Jason
post #1499 of 2305
Does Anyone know if the TV tuner in the LG PB61U works with normal over the air SD signals.
post #1500 of 2305
DaGamePimp
We both thought of poor old garibay and his TV TUNER situation. smile.gif
It's the weekend, so hopefully you can sit back and relax and grab a brewski and figure out the LUMENS and lag, but only if you are in the MOOD and only if you only have 1 or 2 brewski's ... not a case. . biggrin.gif


p.s. For pyrocro, yes it will work for over the air signals. And unencrypted cable stations. So good to go.
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