LG PA70G LED 1280x800 700 Lumens. - Page 56

Im wondering if you can double these up and use polarized filters... could there be problems with that setup? Seems like the best solution to me... though you would have to buy two of em. It least you wouldnt trip a breaker with both on the same circuit like you probably would with bulb based projectors. But I could be wrong.

Plus you'd need a silver screen to preserve polarization post-reflection, which would probably be more than the two PJs combined. Regarding the PA70G being the "best" LCD for 3D, you (currently) NEED a HT PC to drive them since so far I don't think anybody managed to drive them in 3D mode from a stand-alone 3D BD player because of its limited resolution/refresh support over HDMI. It would be awesome if more players allowed customizing their output resolution AND refresh rate.

Sorry, what I referenced as "polarized" was actually not what I was thinking. What I had in mind was the omega passive 3d system, which does not require a silver screen:

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1407101/official-omega-3d-passive-projection-system-thread

That should work great with two of these projectors AFAIK.

Honestly doing that with 2 PA70g's would just be a waste of time IMHO as an inexpensive unit like the BenQ w1070 will offer great 3D and be far brighter while likely being less expensive after two PA70g's plus the passive additions. While passive has its benefits most current single chip 3D DLP's do 3D so well that the extra effort of passive, with inexpensive units like the PA70g, would simply be wasted.

Jason

Looks like some clever photoshop work to me and highly unlikely unless the PA75K has been redesigned (versus a marginal update).

* Then again if they are the least bit concerned over competition from the Q7 they should do something to equal/level the playing field.

Jason

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Edited by DaGamePimp - 2/12/13 at 11:23pm

Interesting, I noticed that in this advertizement that they bring to your attention about the focus and have a picture of the lens... perhaps ? LG has heard the sceaky wheel from people writing to LG about the focus problems with the LGPA70G ?

I wonder ? maybe they are charging a higher price for this PA75K because they upped the quality of the lens ? just guessing.

Yes, the lens does not look anything like the PA70G.
Maybe a different and better lens with better focus ?

behehehehehehehehehehehe I laughed to tears, hahahaha, look at the lens PA75K, nothing has changed, jat the same as in PA70G, and that advertising is a joke.

One of the main reasons to do a dual passive projector setup is for gaming at 1920x1080P@120Hz, which is currently only possible on a few high dollar projectors that have a DVI Dual Link connection.

Using a demultiplexir to split the left and right video frames to the respective projector for 60Hz per eye.

For a 720P projector it is not really worth it, especially for something like video playback.

Since the PA70G accepts a 1920x1080 input signal which it then downsamples, you could get a better result using a passive solution vs a singe pA70G with active.

The main drawback is the limited mirror array of the DMD 0.45 chipset.

So in the end, just as DaGamePimp points out, it really isn't worth it.

The lens in the image is a SLR lens. It is a picture of a Canon 70-300 lens.IS and USM are keywords Canon uses. Unfortunately, I couldn't find any reference to a f2.8 lens that canon produces in this zoom spec. Just imagine what would happen if you could attach a 70-300m zoom to a projector.

Looks like a photoshop job to me. a 70-300 f2.8 lens would be prohibitively heavy and extraordinarily expensive. The Canon 70-200 f2.8L IS USM II is a >$2k USD lens... the 300 f2.8L IS USM II is a $7k lens. Anyone think they'd put something like that on a budget projector?

Ok, sorry my bad the PA75K is the unit sold in Korea.

Pawel ? guess what ? got my car finally fixed, well at least it's driveable now.

I still have to buy some normal wear parts for the car.

I hope maybe by April or May that I will be able to start saving up to buy this projector.
Still have to pay off some doctor bills.

Hope your doing well in in your part of the world.

Pawel ? I may have asked this question before but didn't you say you had the HX300 ?

How much more improvement in picture quality compared to the HX300 to the PA70G ?

I posted a video of the PA70G (for fun while messing with a new camera)...

This is on a 100" matte white screen set to medium power.

This video honestly does not match the actual image but I figured what the heck, it's fun.

Be sure to play it at 1080p...

Jason

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Edited by DaGamePimp - 2/17/13 at 4:37pm

I wish projectors were like slr cameras, it would be nice if you could buy a base projector and then attach whatever lens you wanted. Pay more for better, zoom or whatever. Doubt this will ever happen.

Does Cannon still make projectors?

Looks like they do here is the link to the webpage.

I can't remember a single post on here from anyone who owned a Cannon projector.

Off topic but here is another option maybe, it's new IN1144 led projector.
Another InFOcus IN144 review here
Edited by Amber Ale - 2/14/13 at 11:10am

So I had before, HX300G, and let me tell you that if it comes to painting, he had one advantage over PA70G, it seemed that the image has depth, because of the optics and the pixel diamond in PA70G do not see.
PA70G is definitely brighter than HX300G, before the light turned on in the room, the screen 100 "was hardly the image you can see, the PA70G, when joining light picture is so clear that one can easily see.
PA70G smooth contours in the image and is softer so you can not see pixels, it is a virtue, I managed to improve the focus and now is viewed with pleasure.
But I miss the depth it was in the HX300G. Picture seemed to be 3D in PA70G definitely looks 2D.
Soil comes from this, the film is sometimes blurred background and sharp foreground, in the foreground HX300G was very sharp and clear it gave the illusion of depth in the foreground PA70G has softened the edges, and does not stand out significantly from the background more depth you can not see.
summary, PA70G is bright and has a great soft image without sharp pixels, so the lines are not frayed.
I think that if they get rid of the prisms, the optical path, and insert mirror, as in the picture HX300G would be clearer.

Last sit a lot of time on the construction of a 3D printer, and your printer will construct a print someday maybe another housing of the projector, and recycle components of the optical path, the layout of the mirror. Could use a damaged HX300G, from which I extracted from the chamber DMD mirror and lens. Current lens PA70G, is not suitable because it is constructed of specially under the prisms.

I was able to view the 300, 350 and PA70g right next to eachother and there is no comparison IMHO on not just brightness but on over-all image quality.

The PA70g threw a much better image even though the 300 and 350 were just slightly sharper.

The PA70g has far better contrast and color that honestly made the other two look somewhat sickly in comparison.

Based upon what I saw I would have to disagree that the depth of the image is better on either the 300/350 versus the PA70g as the PA70g appears to have far superior contrast.

This was in a dark painted, light controlled, bat cave room so definitely far more ideal environment than what most here are using (including myself in my non-ideal off white gaming room).

Jason

Frys has the pa70g on sale for $499.99. Not the $399.99 we hoped for but pretty sweet.

About feelings is not discussed , I find the fact of the superiority of traditional DLP Diamond pixel, with PA70G, HX300G has a much clearer picture of what this error because the images below.
And nothing can change that, PA70G has high contrast but poor image quality why? and no reason!!

I agree, one would think that diamonds or not, the diamond shaped pixels would still be clearly seen just like the square pixels

Not that any of this really makes much difference now since not nearly as many people are interested in this model and many are now waiting for the newer models to release.


While traditional pixel orientation is better (I agree) when directly compared for video at proper view distance the PA70G throws a superior over-all image (vs the 300/350 and all of the other inexpensive LED DLP's that I have seen).

For text the traditional method is superior, no doubt about it, but if you get a good PA70G and set it up properly the text is still very easy to read (especially on larger screens at proper view distance).

If you sit close to a small screen that you wish to use for day to day pc viewing (like a pc monitor where text is crucial) then you are likely better off avoiding any of the diamond pixel DLP's.

If primary use is more of a home theater set-up for video content then the PA70G does throw an over-all superior image IMO as it has other image attributes that many of the other LED units simply cannot compete with.


Just my opinion of course, but as a long time videophile that has owned over a dozen projectors of various tech and viewed dozen's of others...

having viewed eight different LED models I can say honestly without any purchase justification or bias that the PA70G throws the most pleasing image over-all versus the other inexpensive LED based units and had it not I simply would not own one as I am very particular regarding image quality.

Jason

I don't find anything wrong with my "focused pa70g"!

399 dollars bought me a gaming PJ with low lag, something I can turn on and off at anytime, 2 years of warranty in USA, 6 watts of stereo speakers that are awesome, contrast ratio of 15,000:1, and 30,000 hours on LED's. My unit is focused so I have no problems surfing the web, so I don't have anything to complain about.

And when the pa75 comes out or 1080p LED comes out, and it's 399 dollars, I would pick up another.

has anyone ordered one of these anywhere recently for anything close to $500 or less? i found one site selling them for $520 but ive never heard of the site.. and it doesnt seem very popular http://bestpaysurvey.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=13501&currency=USD

also, how bad does this pj wash out if you like to watch movies/play games with at least a little light in the room?

you need a dark room to enjoy this PJ, look at redneck's geek 41 min video review on YouTube, he has shots with and without lights on in room. As to price, buy now or wait for fry's sale. Up to you, but I would buy from legit site with very good return policy, since, you might have to exchange it for focused unit. Be prepared to exchange it, I had to, and others of us had to. Now hopefully LG will get their act together, but, cover your ass.

I was just on Fry's website and they want 799 for this.

Nope, it's $499 (through 2 / 21 / 2013)...

http://www.frys.com/product/7196792?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG


Jason

I share your sentiments i also napped it for 399.

In my case It was the projector an IPS monitor or a 120hz monitor.

$399 for the win.

I am posting a youtube video right now, should be done shortly, that will give an example of light on and off. My example shows bias lighting behind the screen since this is the best way to keep the room lit while keeping as much light as possible off the screen (other than that from the projector). If you have ambient light to deal with and no way to keep it off the screen then you'll want a much brighter projector but keep in mind that even with something 3-4x as bright you'll still end up with a washed image under those circumstances.

* Looks like I have to re-do the video since their crummy processing totally screwed playback (just as it messed up the beginning of the previous 1080p video that I posted on the PA70G).

Here is the lower resolution (480p) video since their processing seems to have taken a break today...

Jason
Edited by DaGamePimp - 2/15/13 at 4:45pm

I have an old Infocus X1 with a lamp that finally burned out recently and have been looking for an upgrade (since it seems dumb to buy a new lamp for a ~10 year old projector).

I have been considering this projector as an upgrade and am considering buying it while it is on sale this weekend at Fry's, but was curious about how this would compare to my only other home projector experience (the X1).

Brightness? Is this projector as bright as my old X1 (with a new lamp)? Brighter?
Black level? Are the blacks on this unit comparable or better than my old projector?
Noise level? I never had too much of a problem with the fan noise, but I would have to mount this projector about 3 feet closer than my X1, putting it directly overhead.
Overall Image quality? I would imagine that this is a no-brainer win for the LG, but thought I would ask just in case.

I had a couple of years where my X1 was in storage in the garage between moves and only busted it within the last year or so, and I have to admit that even though the image was a little dim (the bulb had at least 4-5000 hours on it...reset the lamp counter once ), I was still impressed with the image it threw at ~92" diagonal blackout cloth screen in a reasonably light-controlled room. I imagine that as long as I got a good unit ( minimal focus issues, etc) that I would be pretty happy with this as an upgrade, even though there are bigger and better projectors out there?

I have also been monitoring the BenQ w1070 which sounds pretty great but at twice the price.

Anyways, any thoughts on comparison between these the old X1 and the LG PA70G would be appreciated.

I had an X1 for a week back when they were new and I also owned a 4805 for over a year.

While the w1070 would be a more substantial upgrade the PA70G will still be an upgrade to the X1 in most areas (providing you get a solid unit, just as you are already aware).

The contrast of the LG vs the X1 should be where you would notice the biggest difference (with the LG being superior).

Jason
Edited by DaGamePimp - 2/17/13 at 4:33pm

my curiosity got me, that and when i realized frys has it on sale right now for 499, and they seem to have a good return policy. ordered one