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post #1861 of 2160
3/2/13 at 8:58pm
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Don't mean to jack up this thread, but seeing that some of you might be looking at some options...this looks interesting... 8,000 hrs, 3D ready, 15,000:1 contrast and all for 699.00? not sure what it means by PC 3D ready

http://www.jr.com/viewsonic/pe/VIW_PJD7820HD/

Don't see anything that would make this any more special than the hundreds of other bulb projectors out there, it's not led so I'm not interested.
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post #1862 of 2160
3/2/13 at 10:22pm
The PA70G is now on closeout at Fry's, my store has them red tag at $599.

Jason
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post #1863 of 2160
3/2/13 at 11:41pm
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Originally Posted by DaGamePimp View Post

The PA70G is now on closeout at Fry's, my store has them red tag at $599.

Jason
At least in the SFBay Area, it has been below that price more often than above it... currently $100 lower than that at my local store and had been $50 below that for a few weeks a while back.
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post #1864 of 2160
3/3/13 at 5:37am
I purchased the LG PA70g on a try out basis and was very pleased with the results. I have a 3.5m X 3.5M room built for the purpose of listening to music and watching movies with no ambient light entering the room. I have no focusing issues and the picture is clear and acceptably sharp considering the price. From 3 metres distance it is projecting a 225cm metre horizontal image. Great so far. I tried it out for ten days or so and decided to go ahead with the purchase. At this point it all goes a bit wrong. I didn't have any DLP 3D glasses during the test period but the assistant in the shop ( a major German electronics and home appliance centre) assured me that it would transmit 3D through almost any LG 3D equipped Blu-Ray player or, as is the case with me, via my PS3. The assistant went so far as to say that they were demonstrating this in the shop only the week before. I purchased a pair of LG's DLP 3D glasses from the assistant and looked forward to trying the 3D facility out. It didn't work! In fact as I read through this forum I can see that it will never work with a PS3 or an LG Blu-Ray player. I have no intention of setting up my desktop PC in my movie room so what is the solution? The shop tell me that I must be doing something wrong since it should work and will only offer a replacement. LG's own tech support replies suggest that it will work with LG Blu-Ray disc players (see below). As I said I'm pleased with the 2D image which is what it will be used for the majority of the time but why are LG lying to us? As far as I can see from the comments on this forum the LG Pa70G can only transmit 3D at 120Hz thorough a PC. Any suggestions?

Brian

(Below copied from LG's support pag at http://www.lg.com/us/projectors/lg-PA70G-micro-portable

CAN I PLAY 3D MOVIES ON THE PA70G PROJECTOR USING THE LG BP620 BLU-RAY PLAYER?
If so, what other players can I use?
If not, what player will I need to play 3D movies on the PA70G?
Category: I own this product
Interested in: How To use
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We appreciate your interest in this DLP projector and its compatible devices. According to our information, it appears that this projector and BluRay player should be compatible when connected using the HDMI connection. Any of our other 3D BluRay players should also be compatible. These can be reviewed on our website at http://www.lg.com/us/blu-ray-player....
Edited by Brian 66 - Today at 5:21 am
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post #1865 of 2160
3/3/13 at 6:52am
S pozdravom John.
Edited by bony - 3/12/13 at 4:14am
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post #1866 of 2160
3/3/13 at 7:12am
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Originally Posted by DaGamePimp View Post

The PA70G is now on closeout at Fry's, my store has them red tag at $599.

Jason

Does this mean they won't be offering them any longer?
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post #1867 of 2160
3/3/13 at 1:21pm
John
Edited by bony - 3/12/13 at 4:14am
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post #1868 of 2160
3/3/13 at 1:37pm
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Originally Posted by Brian 66 View Post

I purchased the LG PA70g on a try out basis and was very pleased with the results. I have a 3.5m X 3.5M room built for the purpose of listening to music and watching movies with no ambient light entering the room. I have no focusing issues and the picture is clear and acceptably sharp considering the price. From 3 metres distance it is projecting a 225cm metre horizontal image. Great so far. I tried it out for ten days or so and decided to go ahead with the purchase. At this point it all goes a bit wrong. I didn't have any DLP 3D glasses during the test period but the assistant in the shop ( a major German electronics and home appliance centre) assured me that it would transmit 3D through almost any LG 3D equipped Blu-Ray player or, as is the case with me, via my PS3. The assistant went so far as to say that they were demonstrating this in the shop only the week before. I purchased a pair of LG's DLP 3D glasses from the assistant and looked forward to trying the 3D facility out. It didn't work! In fact as I read through this forum I can see that it will never work with a PS3 or an LG Blu-Ray player. I have no intention of setting up my desktop PC in my movie room so what is the solution? The shop tell me that I must be doing something wrong since it should work and will only offer a replacement. LG's own tech support replies suggest that it will work with LG Blu-Ray disc players (see below). As I said I'm pleased with the 2D image which is what it will be used for the majority of the time but why are LG lying to us? As far as I can see from the comments on this forum the LG Pa70G can only transmit 3D at 120Hz thorough a PC. Any suggestions?

Brian

(Below copied from LG's support pag at http://www.lg.com/us/projectors/lg-PA70G-micro-portable

CAN I PLAY 3D MOVIES ON THE PA70G PROJECTOR USING THE LG BP620 BLU-RAY PLAYER?
If so, what other players can I use?
If not, what player will I need to play 3D movies on the PA70G?
Category: I own this product
Interested in: How To use
3 MONTHS, 2 WEEKS AGOU
ANSWERS
STAFFEXPERT
We appreciate your interest in this DLP projector and its compatible devices. According to our information, it appears that this projector and BluRay player should be compatible when connected using the HDMI connection. Any of our other 3D BluRay players should also be compatible. These can be reviewed on our website at http://www.lg.com/us/blu-ray-player....
Edited by Brian 66 - Today at 5:21 am

At this point the PA70G only works with a PC at 120hz for 3D, that is correct. LG support is wrong. frown.gif

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Originally Posted by corpkid12 View Post

Does this mean they won't be offering them any longer?

From what I have been told a red tag at Fry's means it is on closeout to sell remaining stock and they will not order in any more units. Now I do not know if this also means the PA70G is soon to be replaced with a different model or if Fry's has just decided to stop selling it.

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Here are links to videos .Maybe someone will help .Good luck with your repair .

Removing the lens LG PA70G 1/2 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imi9sF3qJu8
Removing the lens LG PA70G 2/2 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8K8bIdghQw

John

Very cool, just watch out for those dust blobs in the internal lens system.


Jason

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post #1869 of 2160
3/3/13 at 1:48pm
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I managed to solve my focus and at a greater distance than 4 m .Before that at 2 meters , I was already at the maximum .Nail polish brand I like protrusions on the photo .
The outer lens package about 1 mm I brand .They actually touch the screw holes .Now also in 5 m still am not at the maximum wheel .A nice can tighten the screws to the rubber seal .
Screws should be tightened so that all corners are sharp.I have a thing for the camera.So I'm going to handle it and throw it on youtube.


S pozdravom John.


This repair is at your own risk .

Good work, I see that in the end, someone ventured, and he did what I wrote a while ago, I did 2 months ago, and I have a satisfactory focus, and most importantly, the ability to focus on the bigger screens of 100 ".smile.gif Good instruction. smile.gif I recommend leave rubber gasket, and shorten the screw but not too much, it will be easier to tighten, and the regulation is necessary, to still handy instructions on how to set the lens with 3 screws. Because it's already difficult issue.
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post #1870 of 2160
3/3/13 at 4:15pm
No, LG will not fix the focus issue. They simply don't care. They still make enough money with this series. It is only luck for now. If you get the unit which screws are tightened well, and everything it's on it's place by the manufacturer, then you are lucky. If not you will get an unfocused unit. We hope they don't care bacause they are already working on the new series. Hopefully.
Regarding the PB 60G, it has focus issues as well. I have the PB 60G, and unfortunately it has focus issues.
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post #1871 of 2160
3/4/13 at 1:13am
John
Edited by bony - 3/12/13 at 4:15am
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post #1872 of 2160
3/4/13 at 3:49am
Hm strange, i found some posts where people are saying that it is needed to tighten the screws to get better focus. In my case i had to lose the screws a bit to get 99% even focus. Out of the box i had about 10% room on the focuswheel at 110" screen. This didnt change after my focus fix. The only thing ive done was to loose the screws a bit on each side until i got the lens as exact as possible in the middle of the lightpath.

I wonder how this difference in our units is explainable. Some have to loose, some have to tighten the screws - interesting.
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post #1873 of 2160
3/4/13 at 3:54am
Clearly bug factory .Tightening the screws will solve only side blurriness .That's what I did I resolve to focus more distance .

John
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post #1874 of 2160
3/6/13 at 2:51am
Thanks for the quick guide Thomas. Can you give a link to EDID you used or the post you followed and how exactly do you go about installing an EDID? Will this EDID work on my HTCP running Windows 8 and a Radeon 4350?
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Originally Posted by thomask1979 View Post

OMG i got it to work AND it is absolutely sharp now Oo !!!! Im very excited about the picture quality and sharpness now. It seems when i send the custom resolutions thru HDMI it not got converted thru the chip correctly. But now i used a custom inf file for HDMI EDID Override and now i can send 1280x720p@120hz and it is not only sharp now its also as fluent as when i sent 1024x768p@120hz thru it.

I take all back my PA70G is good now. No more sharpness issues anymore its only about the correct setup which is not that easy but its worth it. Im very happy now. The picture is crystal clear and fast action in movies is perfect and not eyestraining or something. 24hz/24p didnt work anyway so 120hz is way better for me.

It was a bit tricky but here is what ive done:

1. overinstall the HDMI inf file for 1280x720p@120hz as described in this thread.
2. restart pc, plug in plug out projector.
3. create custom resolution settings in nvidia advanced settings. right click desktop - resolution - advanced - select intel graphics control panel - propertys - advanced mode - create custom resolution (use here 1280x720p@120hz and add it)
4. now close all windows or even unplug / restart if needed. then select 1280x720p@120hz in the nvidia system control - voila!

Have fun and i hope this helps someone. If you have a question feel free to ask. Im one happy PA70G user now smile.gif

Also, what DLP 3D glasses do you guys use with the PA70G? Looks like I'll have to import some, DLP glasses seems to be very rare in South-Africa.
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post #1875 of 2160
3/6/13 at 6:22am
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Originally Posted by Penquin View Post

Thanks for the quick guide Thomas. Can you give a link to EDID you used or the post you followed and how exactly do you go about installing an EDID? Will this EDID work on my HTCP running Windows 8 and a Radeon 4350?
Also, what DLP 3D glasses do you guys use with the PA70G? Looks like I'll have to import some, DLP glasses seems to be very rare in South-Africa.

Im too lazy to search this huge thread. I tried to add the file but it says the type of file is not allowed... strange its the same file i downloaded here. Any mod can help us here to add me the inf file please?
When you got the file go to your device manager and overinstall the standard monitor driver which stands for the PA70G when it is connected. Select the inf file by selecting the correct driver manually.
I only have Win 7 64bit dont know if it works with Win 8...

Then restart the Notebook / PC / HTPC and follow my previous instructions. Sorry that i cant upload the file here but it is called "PLED-W500 HDMI 1280x720 120Hz native".

I couldnt get 3d to work with this EDID override it still lets me only use 1024x768@120hz for 3d but its not really worth it anyway since its too dark to enjoy with this projector.
If you still want try you need DLP glasses with white flash sensors and 120hz support (which they all should). Its the right one when it has a white but black sensor in the glasses.
Then you need stereoscopic player and set it to software pageflipping mode in options and dlp link glasses as the control codec for glasses. The effect is awesome if it would be alot brighter but as it is its not very recommend for longer sessions cause its soo dark. The glasses take about 70% brightness away which doesnt let much left to even see anything on about 100".
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post #1876 of 2160
3/6/13 at 8:19am
Ask for assistance. Yesterday came the projector worked 2 hours. Worked 3 hours today, after which it was spontaneously shut down. When turned on works for about a minute then goes into standby mode. At the hearing where the beeping of a throttle. Or who have not encountered this problem??? Thanks in advance for your help.I'm sorry for the in-game text translation online translator.
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post #1877 of 2160
3/6/13 at 9:21am
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Originally Posted by Jagermester View Post

No, LG will not fix the focus issue. They simply don't care. They still make enough money with this series. It is only luck for now. If you get the unit which screws are tightened well, and everything it's on it's place by the manufacturer, then you are lucky. If not you will get an unfocused unit. We hope they don't care bacause they are already working on the new series. Hopefully.
Regarding the PB 60G, it has focus issues as well. I have the PB 60G, and unfortunately it has focus issues.

I´m lucky smile.gif

Some screenshots of the last two movies I've seen smile.gif

Skyfall 1080p MKV 5,7GB





Life Of Pi 1080p MKV 5,2GB













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post #1878 of 2160
3/6/13 at 11:17am
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Hm strange, i found some posts where people are saying that it is needed to tighten the screws to get better focus. In my case i had to lose the screws a bit to get 99% even focus. Out of the box i had about 10% room on the focuswheel at 110" screen. This didnt change after my focus fix. The only thing ive done was to loose the screws a bit on each side until i got the lens as exact as possible in the middle of the lightpath.

I wonder how this difference in our units is explainable. Some have to loose, some have to tighten the screws - interesting.

Because it is so with, the factory mounts the lens, using a power screwdriver power, so tiny, sometimes smile.gif sometimes one of the screws is screwed harder sometimes less well, 2 screws, have support, and the third slightly smaller, so it will be like a bolt tightened, determines whether the image is crisp evenly.However, the fact remains that, swivel focus, at 100 ", gives sharpness on the verge of its turnover, removing the excess plastic 1 mm, lowers the distance, lens of DMD, increasing the distance from the screen you need, insert the lens closer to the DMD, so when you approach it 1mm for DMD is the range focus knob moves to the center, and in this way, we are able to control, focus on the screen up to 300 "and bigger.

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Originally Posted by bony View Post

I do not know what you mean and where spills .My camera when filming dark scenes so you can see three bright bubbles .

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Seal the lens in any case I would not levied .For the plastics still would not let more in. .After buffing plastics are nicely supported by the seal .One can then control the side focus .Gradual tightening the screws.Rubber is elastic.Seals and holds it firmly .
Metal shims is difficult to hit the exact size definition .Retracts the lens further forward .Grinded plastic projections is a good solution .
Maybe less than 1 mm .Help it to 100%.To shorten the screws occurred to me .It is definitely a good idea.

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Replacement projector would last 35 days .Transport € 10 .So I decided to make such a courageous act .
I hate waiting and I will discuss what we can . biggrin.gif

John

I left the gasket, it does not affect the distance and does not allow for, penetrate to the interior of the chamber dust DMD, in my post of January, is a picture of, I can see the sharpness of the screen 100 ", in the middle of the adjustment range despite the fact that it is seal, I deleted my 1 mm plastic and seal acts like a spring, and also the tension screws, which are abbreviated to their circulating easier.
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post #1879 of 2160
3/6/13 at 11:49am
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Im too lazy to search this huge thread. I tried to add the file but it says the type of file is not allowed... strange its the same file i downloaded here. Any mod can help us here to add me the inf file please?

Is this the INF FILE you speak of?

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1405666/lg-pa70g-led-1280x800-700-lumens/1560#post_22919502
Edited by bruce banner - 3/6/13 at 11:58am
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post #1880 of 2160
3/6/13 at 11:56am
i barrowed a friends 8600 gts video card yesterday and was able to make a custom res and put 1280x800@120hz to it, i noticed only a slight inprovement, right away the color temperature seemed to go alittle cooler and the colors looked less "neon", text was only sightly clearer/less shadowed?looking, im thinking i may actually have one of the good ones and it just is what it is. about as clear as it can be. i think. i didnt have to use any special inf file or anything just made a custom resolution and applied it. did i miss somthing here?

i watched a few mp4 and mkv files 720p and 1080p, moves looked pretty good, still a little soft compared to a direct view tv, but hey its a cheap projector. playback was smooth though. , overall very good for movies and still suprisingly bright for LED, and if i had got it at $399 instead of $499 id probably keep it, but i already got a RA number from frys and am %70 sure im going to send it back and get a 47" LG 47LM4600 lcd lol. still not quite ready to turn my basement living room into a dedicated dark room for viewing tv/movies/games. i think the picture while connected to the xbox is the deal breaker for me. as a dedicated for watching hd movies and shows its good.
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post #1881 of 2160
3/6/13 at 11:56am
espetodesardina, are these screen shots from the lg PA70G? and what is the screen size you use/ have? i'm thinking of getting the LG pa70g with a 120" screen. let me know thanks:)
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post #1882 of 2160
3/6/13 at 12:37pm
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espetodesardina, are these screen shots from the lg PA70G? and what is the screen size you use/ have? i'm thinking of getting the LG pa70g with a 120" screen. let me know thanks:)

It is his younger brother, PB60G.
Is practically the same picture quality except for its 200 lumens less.
This is much smaller and manageable in many environments.
Look at PB60G thread, I made ​​screenshots.Also some add on DIY, all useful and functional.
Project on a 106" screen.
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post #1883 of 2160
3/6/13 at 12:42pm
oh ok thanks also what kind / brand of screen do you use? what grain of screen 1.0 , 1.1 ect.. ,if you know thanks again for the info.
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3/6/13 at 1:07pm
My screen is not brand, has a gain of 1.1
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3/6/13 at 4:05pm
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i watched a few mp4 and mkv files 720p and 1080p, moves looked pretty good, still a little soft compared to a direct view tv, but hey its a cheap projector. playback was smooth though. , overall very good for movies and still suprisingly bright for LED, and if i had got it at $399 instead of $499 id probably keep it, but i already got a RA number from frys and am %70 sure im going to send it back and get a 47" LG 47LM4600 lcd lol. still not quite ready to turn my basement living room into a dedicated dark room for viewing tv/movies/games. i think the picture while connected to the xbox is the deal breaker for me. as a dedicated for watching hd movies and shows its good.



Please try using an HTPC with special software for movies playback. Before I had the Pioneer upscaled dvd player for movies, but the picture was too dull , not sharp and not happy at all. After using an HTPC with bluray software, I was blown away with the result. The colors were great & more pop, great improvements on shapness, contrast & brightness. So therefore sometimes If the projector can't give you the end result as what you expected, there's a way for that matter.
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post #1886 of 2160
3/6/13 at 5:50pm
I agree with displaylou, I use my pa70g wth a lenovo q150 mini desktop and the picture is super sharp. I use media player classic because its not a resource hog like Vlc and has various sharpen options. I plan on purchasing 2 more pa70g's as soon as they go on sale again.
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post #1887 of 2160
3/6/13 at 6:28pm
ok thanks again for the info, the screen i am getting is an off brand from fry's so it should do. thanks espetodesardina
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post #1888 of 2160
3/7/13 at 12:43am
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I agree with displaylou, I use my pa70g wth a lenovo q150 mini desktop and the picture is super sharp. I use media player classic because its not a resource hog like Vlc and has various sharpen options. I plan on purchasing 2 more pa70g's as soon as they go on sale again.


Good to hear that cakegetter, I've also tried almost all free software player, including the three with a prize tag. TMT5, Corel Windvd and Power dvd12 and had a side by side comparison for picture quality and for my eyes PowerDvd 12 is the winner for my projector.
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3/7/13 at 2:46am
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Is this the INF FILE you speak of?

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1405666/lg-pa70g-led-1280x800-700-lumens/1560#post_22919502

No i used one with the name: PLED-W500 HDMI 1280x720 120Hz native. Also note that the inf file in the link was used for 1280x800@120hz.
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i barrowed a friends 8600 gts video card yesterday and was able to make a custom res and put 1280x800@120hz to it, i noticed only a slight inprovement, right away the color temperature seemed to go alittle cooler and the colors looked less "neon", text was only sightly clearer/less shadowed?looking, im thinking i may actually have one of the good ones and it just is what it is. about as clear as it can be. i think. i didnt have to use any special inf file or anything just made a custom resolution and applied it. did i miss somthing here?

Yes you missed the fact that there is a big difference between 1280x800 and 1280x720 on the PA70G. If you use 1280x800 you only get a sharp picture when using it in full 16:10 mode. While 1280x720 lets you use the 16:9 mode with a sharp image result. You need the custom inf file for 1280x720 res for correct 16:9 output otherwise it will result in the same issue i was complaining at. Lower sharpness, more neon colours and an overall more dull image.

edit: Without the Inf file i could only use proper 1280x720 together with 50hz. Higher than 50hz resulted in an 16:10 degration. For example setting the nvidia controls to 1280x720@60hz ended up in 1280x800@60hz when pressing the middle button of the remote. This problem occured for every resolution with 16:9 aspect ratio. Im on an ivy bridge notebook with intel hd4000 / nvidia gt650m graphic cards. Running 306.2 modified beta drivers.
Edited by thomask1979 - 3/7/13 at 3:47am
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post #1890 of 2160
3/7/13 at 10:41am
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No i used one with the name: PLED-W500 HDMI 1280x720 120Hz native. Also note that the inf file in the link was used for 1280x800@120hz.

I looked all through this thread.. i just cant find it :::crying:::
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