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My 5.1 setup is set-up correctly , right ?

post #1 of 15
4/18/12 at 11:02am
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So i have the jamo s608 5.0 along with JAMO SUB 250 and ONKYO TX308 avr.

Ive set all my speakers to small , crossover @ 80hz , ive setup all the distances from the listening position , and every speaker level with an spl meter so that every speaker is outputting the same ammount of volume when at the listening position.

Treble tone +4db
Bass tone +2dB

The crossover on the back of my sub is at all the way up , phase at 0 and its gain volume a little bit more than 1/2.

Also , my sub volume on the AVR is @ 0dB , and the bass is very deep and most importantly smooth.

Fronts 0 dB , center +4dB (so i can hear the dialogue volume more easily) , and rear to +3dB (because theyre kinda small compared to the s608 fronts).
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post #2 of 15
4/18/12 at 1:09pm
1. Why are you using the tone controls?
2. Why is the sub gain control all the way up and the LFE gain is 0dB? How did you measure the sub level?
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post #3 of 15
4/18/12 at 1:17pm
His sub gain is at just over half, it's his crossover that's at maximum (bypassed, probably).
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post #4 of 15
4/18/12 at 1:29pm
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Originally Posted by SaviorMachine View Post

His sub gain is at just over half, it's his crossover that's at maximum (bypassed, probably).

Ooops. Read too fast.

Still leaves the tone control as an issue (for me) but if that's what he prefers............
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post #5 of 15
4/18/12 at 1:42pm
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Originally Posted by Kal Rubinson View Post

Ooops. Read too fast.

Still leaves the tone control as an issue (for me) but if that's what he prefers............

So do you suggest keeping the tone controls at 0dB ? because at +4dB , i can hear certain sounds better from the front , for example water splashes , etc...

My listening position is about 2.7meters away from the front speakers and center speaker.
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post #6 of 15
4/18/12 at 1:45pm
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Originally Posted by dazkyl View Post

So i have the jamo s608 5.0 along with JAMO SUB 250 and ONKYO TX308 avr.

Ive set all my speakers to small , crossover @ 80hz , ive setup all the distances from the listening position , and every speaker level with an spl meter so that every speaker is outputting the same ammount of volume when at the listening position.

Treble tone +4db
Bass tone +2dB

The crossover on the back of my sub is at all the way up , phase at 0 and its gain volume a little bit more than 1/2.

Also , my sub volume on the AVR is @ 0dB , and the bass is very deep and most importantly smooth.

Fronts 0 dB , center +4dB (so i can hear the dialogue volume more easily) , and rear to +3dB (because theyre kinda small compared to the s608 fronts).

Another part is where the speakers are positioned, too. You say rear on the surrounds when they're usually recommended to be more at the sides of your LP.

Are you using the sub's LFE input (not familiar with the sub, am assuming it has one)? Did you try the 180 setting on phase? Crossover at 80 may not be ideal necessarily.

Like Kal wonders, why the use of the tone controls?
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post #7 of 15
4/18/12 at 1:52pm
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Originally Posted by lovinthehd View Post

Another part is where the speakers are positioned, too. You say rear on the surrounds when they're usually recommended to be more at the sides of your LP.

Are you using the sub's LFE input (not familiar with the sub, am assuming it has one)? Did you try the 180 setting on phase? Crossover at 80 may not be ideal necessarily.

Like Kal wonders, why the use of the tone controls?

Well , then i will set my tone control to 0dB again .. i though +4dB sounded better , but i will keep them at default as you all mentioned .. the receiver will breath more if theyre to default anyways !

I dont have LFE settings in my avr , but my phase is at 0 , cut-off frequency on the back of the sub to itx max (150 i guess) and 80hz crossover.

My rear speakers are also mounted corrected , a little above ear level and little bit behind me (where i sit) on the sides.
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post #8 of 15
4/18/12 at 1:54pm
you may want to check the crossover on your rear and centre speakers. I had a Jamo 5.0 setup (not the 606) and the centre and rears could handle less than the mains. I think I had a 100hz or 120hz on the centre, and a 150hz on the rears.

Other than that it sounds fine, though I agree that leaving the tone controls out of it would usually be my preference.
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post #9 of 15
4/18/12 at 2:00pm
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Originally Posted by 5seonds View Post

you may want to check the crossover on your rear and centre speakers. I had a Jamo 5.0 setup (not the 606) and the centre and rears could handle less than the mains. I think I had a 100hz or 120hz on the centre, and a 150hz on the rears.

Other than that it sounds fine, though I agree that leaving the tone controls out of it would usually be my preference.

But mine are the s608 , theyre better than 606 and others.

I only have 1 crossover setting in my avr that applies to all my speakers.
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post #10 of 15
4/18/12 at 2:02pm
If you enjoy the sound more with the tone controls turned up slightly, than leave them that way. Water splashes include a lot of high frequencies, which some people have a harder time hearing than other people do.
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post #11 of 15
4/18/12 at 2:08pm
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Originally Posted by Selden Ball View Post

If you enjoy the sound more with the tone controls turned up slightly, than leave them that way. Water splashes include a lot of high frequencies, which some people have a harder time hearing than other people do.

Why are you suggesting to keep the tones @ 0dB ? yes i kinda have a hard time hearing them when 0dB for treble.
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post #12 of 15
4/18/12 at 2:27pm
People suggest that they be left flat because that way you hear the audio as it is coming from the source, unmodified, "just as the audio producers intended" -- they're purists.

That's not what I'm suggesting. I'm suggesting that you turn up the controls just enough so things sound better to you. Audio and video entertainment systems are just that: you use them to make you happy.

Some people are happier when they know their systems are providing exactly the environment that the recording artist intended. They expend a great deal of effort to ensure that their systems are as accurate as humanly possible. Others find happiness in other ways
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post #13 of 15
4/18/12 at 2:33pm
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Originally Posted by Selden Ball View Post

People suggest that they be left flat because that way you hear the audio as it is coming from the source, unmodified, "just as the audio producers intended" -- they're purists.

That's not what I'm suggesting. I'm suggesting that you turn up the controls just enough so things sound better to you. Audio and video entertainment systems are just that: you use them to make you happy.

Some people are happier when they know their systems are providing exactly the environment that the recording artist intended. They expend a great deal of effort to ensure that their systems are as accurate as humanly possible. Others find happiness in other ways

Yeah sounds fair enough i'll keep them flat , thanks buddy
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post #14 of 15
4/18/12 at 3:28pm
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Originally Posted by dazkyl View Post

So do you suggest keeping the tone controls at 0dB ? because at +4dB , i can hear certain sounds better from the front , for example water splashes , etc...

My listening position is about 2.7meters away from the front speakers and center speaker.

Nope. I have not used tone controls in decades but I do use acoustical measurements and EQ. Since your AVR lacks roomEQ and no one knows what your speakers sound like in your room, no one can criticize.
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post #15 of 15
4/18/12 at 5:05pm
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Originally Posted by dazkyl View Post

Well , then i will set my tone control to 0dB again .. i though +4dB sounded better , but i will keep them at default as you all mentioned .. the receiver will breath more if theyre to default anyways !

I dont have LFE settings in my avr , but my phase is at 0 , cut-off frequency on the back of the sub to itx max (150 i guess) and 80hz crossover.

My rear speakers are also mounted corrected , a little above ear level and little bit behind me (where i sit) on the sides.

I was just curious why you were using tone control settings in general; I was thinking your receiver had multi band equalization more than anything...but in looking at some specs it does not appear that is the case. I'm spoiled from my last two AVRs (and before that employed a separate multi-band equalizer).
If it sounds good to you, use the tone controls to your liking.

I wasn't speaking of LFE settings on your AVR, but rather a specific LFE input on the sub (but haven't looked up anything for your sub to see if that is the case); when using the LFE input you use the AVR for crossover (bypassing the sub's own crossover control usually), and the other input on the sub would use the crossover setting the sub provides. Depends on your sub whether it has both of these input options.
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